Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #572 ecto, Number 572 Thursday, 13 May 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Who knows...some answers Ecto Physics Re: F* dich selber... Various Disappear Fear Happy Birthdays Re: ecto #568 happyvangelizing, part 2^N - 1 The prisoner of Equipoise? and other stories happyvangelizing et al. ======================================================================== From: Tree of Schnopia Subject: Who knows...some answers Date: Wed, 12 May 93 13:22:30 EDT Forwarded message: > From karl@adler.ims.uni-stuttgart.de Wed May 12 11:42:09 1993 > Date: Wed, 12 May 93 17:26:15 +0200 > From: Karl Dotzek > Message-Id: <9305121526.AA21348@adler.ims.uni-stuttgart.de> > To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu > Subject: Who knows... > Reply-To: Karl.Dotzek@ims.uni-stuttgart.de > > Who has an idea (and can tell me) who sings the following lines in > what songs? (guesses so far in brackets) > > 1. I met a fan dancer > Down in Southside Birmingham > (I recall that it's sung with a high male voice, perhaps it's by > Lake, a German group of the 70s?) Huey Lewis and the News, "Jacob's Ladder", FORE! > If you have new guesses, I'd be interested in those, too. That's a definite...I'm kinda embarrassed to have known that, and just as embarrassed to own the album...but then, I stayed out of the secret shame discussion for a reason. :) I thought I knew more of those...#2 in particular sounds quite familiar, but I just can't place it. Drewcifer ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 May 93 10:57:02 -0700 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: Ecto Physics I recently returned from a two-week hiatus, away from my music and mail; today i played 'Equipoise' and heard things in the recording i did not remember. What a pleasure to hear songs with fresh ears! But, as much as i love this music (and i DO!), i realized that an additional pleasure in listening to Happy comes from being reminded of all you ectophiles out there. So, not only do we have the three/four dimensions of music and time, we have the added dimensions of the global ecto net! Ranging to the corners of the earth. I am no good at describing music that can send shivers down the back; you all have been doing a fine job in your posts. I guess music is just too personal for me to condense in words. What we need is a virtual reality (VR), no, make that a Happy Reality (HR) apparatus that would enable visualization of the ecto-context of a Happy CD. Until such a device is invented, this fuzzy blue list is doing the job just fine! (apparatus: i *love* that word -- it brings Jules Verne to mind :) And, apropos the recent discussion of preferences in love, After all, isn't it what's inside that counts No matter what the gender be - HR Cheers, Mp ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 May 93 22:09 MET DST From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: F* dich selber... > > of this sentence to get the German version. Now any non-German Ectophile > > recognizing the citation? > > > > "F*ck Dich selber, Du Arschloch!" > > Oooh. That's easy. Almost any American movie!!!!! I could probably list > 100 of them. ;-) > Hmmm... I can't. Probably they normally take that flavour out of the translation. In the case I have in mind that would not be that easy, since the sentence is also displayed (in English) on a sort of computer display, amongst some other similar sentences. Now any new guesses? BTW: How can a question be easy to answer if you know 100 choices and only one is right? Bye, Uli ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 15:06:33 EST Subject: Various Happy Birthday Jarle! & Welcome to Ecto! What's your shoesize? and other vital information? ****** I just saw a neat marketing tool. I knew about cassette singles, but at 2.99 a pop you have think about whether you want to try an artist or not. But now HMV has some of it's cassette singles priced at .99! Yes .99! (Only about three that I saw) At .99 I'll don't even have to stop to think about I'll just do it! I picked up Annie Lennox's Little Bird/Love Theme from Dracula. Now why aren't more priced that way? It made me remember the fond days of buying 45s...sigh! I saw a cassette single for Debbie Gibson latest...I wouldn't have recognized her from the cover. She looked...well, hot! A very manufactured hot (which don't appeal to me), but she's definitely not being marketed as cute. I image her music is just as mindless. Although in my deep heart of hearts, I will confess to almost, almost mind you, liking "Shake Your Love", but I don't think about that thought much because it makes my head hurt. Speaking of Debbie Gibson, anyone remember the other teen queen who ruled about the same time: Tiffany! Eeeek! I wonder what happened to her? - Michael B. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 15:22:01 -0500 From: jim@medinah.atc.ucarb.com Subject: Disappear Fear I thought some people might be interested in seeing Disappear Fear. The group is based around two sister, Sonia and Cindy. They currently have a 4 piece backup band. They have alot of similarities to the Indigo Girls. Almost all the songs are written by Sonia. Some of their tour dates. May 14 Ohio State University, West Lawn 5:30 PM Columbus , Ohio May 15 Blind Pig Ann Arbor, MI 16 Beat Kitchen Chicago, IL 18 On Broadway Springfield, IL 19 Catch a Rising Star St. Louis, MO 21 Canal Street Tavern Dayton, OH June 4 Miskins Charleston, SC 5 Miskins Charleston, SC 9 South End Memphis, TN 10 University of Arkansas Fayetteville, AR For more infor or other dates contact Ginger Warder at Dolphin Talent, (804) 220-3637 Jimfred ======================================================================== From: brianb@lobby.ti.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: F* dich selber... Date: Wed, 12 May 93 14:19:44 CDT > > > > of this sentence to get the German version. Now any non-German Ectophile > > > recognizing the citation? > > > > > > > "F*ck Dich selber, Du Arschloch!" > > > > > Oooh. That's easy. Almost any American movie!!!!! I could probably list > > 100 of them. ;-) > > > > Hmmm... I can't. Probably they normally take that flavour out of the > > translation. In the case I have in mind that would not be that easy, > since the sentence is also displayed (in English) on a sort of computer > display, amongst some other similar sentences. Now any new guesses? Gosh, then it would have to be the cute and cuddly Terminator, wouldn't it? So what do I win? -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@lobby.ti.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 May 93 22:15:26 +0200 From: yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no (Yngve Hauge) Subject: Happy Birthdays Happy birthdays to Steve and Jarle May 13 (tomorrow) Hope you'll have a nice day you both.............. Take care, -- T ---- Only In Your Eyes Lies Your Soul.............. H | --- ----- ---- --- - -- - - - - - --- E |-- | | | | | | |__| | | |_ | | | | | |--- | | | | | --- --- - - ---- - - - -- - - - --- --- Yngve Hauge (yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no).....University of Tromsoe...Norway ======================================================================== Subject: Re: ecto #568 From: metatron!joe@dogface.austin.tx.us (Joe Zitt) Date: Wed, 12 May 93 13:12:33 CDT brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk (Jens P. Brage) writes: > I think you missed something, but before describing it, I'd better put > up *SPOILER WARNINGs*: If you do not want to know about the ending of > "Stalker", skip the next page... Wow... I don't remember the scene you mention. Yeah, that might have turned the whole movie around. "You could be an ocarina salesman going | Metatron Press | Austin, Texas! from door to door..." -- Laurie Anderson | Human Systems Performance Group oo formulaic, and too non-drummerly to > consistently succeed with the "live band" feel that the album has. Hmmm... The album didn't strike me as having a "live band" feel--it felt very much like a MIDI project done by a couple of people at synths with a few overdubs of other people. Of course I'm prejudiced toward that, since that's the way that I work. I've actually been listening to it a lot in trying to learn from her arrangements... although I've been able to steal a lot more ideas from the new Bowie. That said, I think I prefer Warpaint, since the lyrics are more direct. "You could be an ocarina salesman going | Metatron Press | Austin, Texas! from door to door..." -- Laurie Anderson | Human Systems Performance Group ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 May 93 14:29:18 PDT From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: happyvangelizing, part 2^N - 1 Well, I finally picked up VI and VII a couple days ago at my Favorite Local Record Store (they had ALL SIX albums on CD), and I've made a sampler tape for a friend of mine who's in a Cool Music desert-- rural Missouri. She's already a kate/ tori/This Mortal Coil/etc. fan, so it should be a painless conversion. I'm also trying to get the campus radio station here at UC-Berkeley on the Happy bandwagon-- unfortunately, it's the end of the school year, so there's not much of an audience left. By the way, one of my favorite bands, negativland, is reportedly touring the midwest and east USA this summer-- they are *very* funny live. D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 15:49:06 CDT From: Subject: The prisoner of Equipoise? and other stories Jim Cullen's remembrance of his old friend Happy Rhodes (aka Shawna) has fascinatingly much in common with the Happy we know, except that our Happy's real (or at least original-equipment) name is Kimberly. This is interesting; reminds me of _The Prisoner of Zenda_. It also reminds me, for whatever personal reason, of the time a good quarter-century ago or more, when the _Columbia Journalism Review_ took a New York TV station to task for advertising that Elizabeth Taylor was to be a guest on the David Susskind show. That was indeed the name of the guest, but it wasn't the one who went on to fame and fortune lending her name to overpriced perfume :-). On the other hand, it might be a sign that Kimberly Happy has arrived, if any station were to use Shawna Happy as a stooge in a bait-and-switch with the hapless viewers :-). While I'm still thinking of it: _Fresh Air_ on NPR just gave a favorable review to Zap Mama's new album. While still on the subject of prisoners: Last weekend I saw Marsha Norman's play _Getting Out_, which is about a female ex-offender. During non-play times , much of the music played was from _Little Earthquakes_. I don't know if it was just coincidence that they played "Me and a Gun" right after Act 1, which ended with a rape scene. WRT Woj's musings on Bitnet: Isn't Kiri on it along with him and me? My posts win me messages confirming delivery to the Brown newsgroup gateway, but not to Woj or Kiri. A more important question is whether Rutvm1 sporadically sits on their posts at length, as it does with mine. I know exactly how Woj feels WRT the percent of his bills that are music-gener- ated. On the other hand, as mjm reminds us, the gratification it all brings can make it less than a total loss in the end :-). Did Record Exchange really go under? The whole chain, or just the one on Demp- ster? If so, it eerily supports the urban legend that deaths come in threes, the other two in this case being Guild Books and Mystery Loves Company. Suppose we could build the readership of this list by huckstering Ecto Physics to scientific netters, as the refreshing alternative to the Larsonian Physics that they've grown so tired of in the collected posts of Robert McElwaine? (Cf. comp-academic-freedom-talk the last several days.) WRT Debbie Gibson: It seems to me that women of a certain age, as the catch- phrase goes, cease to be credible candidates for marketing as cute. Maybe they haven't yet figured how to market Tiffany as hot :-). WRT Brni's thoughts on _Solitude Standing_, as reposted by Chris: "Neighbor- hood Girls" was actually on SV's first, eponymous album, not _SS_. Well--off to figure out how to optimize tonight between the final _Wonder Years_ and _90210_. All this talk of cute and hot women of a certain age can have that kind of effect on the thought processes of a man my age :-). Mitch ---------------------------- "UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED." --Robert McElwain (sort of makes you wonder why the _Columbia Journalism Review_ calls its month- ly collection of journalistic bloopers "the lower case" [sic] :-) ?) ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Who knows...some answers Date: Wed, 12 May 93 17:36:50 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Drewcifer replied: >> 1. I met a fan dancer >> Down in Southside Birmingham >> (I recall that it's sung with a high male voice, perhaps it's by >> Lake, a German group of the 70s?) > >Huey Lewis and the News, "Jacob's Ladder", FORE! > >> If you have new guesses, I'd be interested in those, too. > >That's a definite...I'm kinda embarrassed to have known that, and just as >embarrassed to own the album...but then, I stayed out of the secret shame >discussion for a reason. :) Well, sort of. The song was written by Bruce Hornsby. It first appeared on the Huey Lewis album, but Hornsby later released a version on his second album, _Scenes from the Southside_. While I don't have much positive to say for _Fore!_, _Scenes from the Southside_ is a *wonderful* album; I think it's Hornsby's best, and the only one I listen to with any regularity. Jeff ======================================================================== Subject: happyvangelizing et al. Date: Wed, 12 May 93 17:58:32 EDT From: Angelos Kyrlidis Hi, David Dixon writes: >I'm also trying to get the campus radio station here at >UC-Berkeley on the Happy bandwagon-- unfortunately, it's >the end of the school year, so there's not much of an audience >left. Good, wait til September, when I will most probably be there too and maybe we can get Happy to come on down for an interview and a live on the air performance. :) Mitch writes: >Suppose we could build the readership of this list by huckstering Ecto Physics >to scientific netters, as the refreshing alternative to the Larsonian Physics >that they've grown so tired of in the collected posts of Robert McElwaine? No no no, that should be: Suppose WE could BUILD the readership of this LIST by huckstering ECTO PHYSIC$ to scientific NETTER$, as the refreshing ALTERNATIVE to the Larsonian Physics that THEY've grown $O tired of in the COLLECTED posts of Robert McElwaine? :-) Angelos 'the harder the case is the faster the race is the harder and faster we fall' ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)