Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #554 ecto, Number 554 Sunday, 2 May 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Absence in Silence Today's your birthday friend.... Warning: Klaus ahead meeting Ectophiles Nin Hagen tape ? Re: bi-weekly Re: wow! I'm in the top 10! Re: Bel Canto Diva's US Debut has anyone had a similar experience? Happy Review from Philly ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: Absence in Silence Date: Sat, 1 May 1993 10:02:46 -0700 (PDT) I had to write. I had to. Sorry, Neile, I've been absconced. I'll write you soon as my life ends up in silence and I've had a few moments to get my act together (it's starting to.) I had to write because I saw D^2 (alas David Dixon's name in print)..someone else has heard his music? Dying in shock. The ocean one. ======================================================================== Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 93 00:10:07 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ***** Geoff Parks ***** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Gray Abbott Tue May 3 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian May 3 Taurus Mark Semich Thu May 6 1965 Yield Joe Dembski Wed May 7 1952 Rumple Brian Gregory Thu May 9 1963 Eclectic Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Beth Perry Tue May 21 1957 Glad Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.w.open.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Subject: Warning: Klaus ahead From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 93 22:54:22 GMT Yngve> What is needed too is a new version of the FAQ at the site as well Yes, please Vickie, send the new version to Jessica. Angelos wrote: > Just a brief note to recommend to ectophiles the April and May issues of > Q magazine that both feature CD samplers for free. I got the April one > yesterday and enjoyed it immensely (specifically Tasmin Archer sounds very > promising, and I even like 'Pride and Joy' the Coverdale/Page song ;-)). While waiting at London Heathrow for our connecting flight, I took the May issue of Q. Most interesting was the difference in price. It was sold for 2 pounds; if I buy it in Germany I have to pay the equivalent of 6.4 pounds. :( Robert: > Interspersed with the songs are small clips of interview. On the whole, > an excellent presentation. Tape is headed for dbx in tomorrow's mail! Thank you _very_ much Robert!!! I'm already looking forward to hear those interviews. Steve Fagg about the "Beacon in the sky" in "SOS": > Happy's lyric may also (or instead) refer to deliberate transmissions > from Earth aimed at potential locations for ET intelligence, with the > intention of alerting them to our existence. I heard of plans to do > such a thing many years ago, but I never did hear if it was ever done. > Anybody on the list know if this ever actually happened? Yes, SETI (Search for ET Intelligence) is going on, and other and more powerful radiotelescopes will be added to the project. If I'd put more attention to the SETI talk at HeliCon I would be able to tell you more about it. Nevertheless, I'm quite certain that Happy knows about the SETI project and referred to it, as I understand a "beacon" to be a deliberate transmission. Also, the whole song is about our attempts to make contact. ... and Uli explained ... > answering. And near enough for mankind to receive an answer within its > (the mankind's) existance. Within mankind's existance? You're an optimist! How many thousand years would we have to wait for a reply? Tree of Schnopia wrote: > I just bought DREAM COUNTRY (and now own all 4 compilations, yay!). You're not alone out there. All I need now is the time to read the last 3 compilations. > And if you're really up for a nice, long yarn of the end of the world, try > the prose GOOD OMENS, a novel coauthored by Gaiman and Terry "Discworld" > Pratchett. Well, that's what the cover lists as the authors. But Terry signed my copy with the confession "we made the devil do it". Joe asked: > (Which makes me wonder off hand whatever happened to Nena after "99 > Luftballoons".) She had some more local releases which, as it looks like, weren't even noticed outside of Germany. Then, there were a few years of silence, I seem to recall personal problems, and a new album release named "Bongo Girl" a couple of months ago. I only heard a single release from it on the radio, which is .... uh .... interesting. If I listen a bit longer I might even like it. Karl wrote: > Peter Gabriel played in the Schleyerhalle, the largest one in the > area. For larger sites you would have to go to Munich or Frankfurt >(or in stadiums), I guess. Don't forget Dortmund's Westfalenhalle. Our tickets, which we got _very_ early, have a running number in the 7000. Dirk wrote: > The latest issue of the jpc-courier (this is the monthly catalog of > the north-german record store chain j(azz)p(op)c(lassic)) offers > Warpaint as a US self import for DM 33,95 (US$ 22) 8-) > The typist was obviously reminded of a funny e-piano, because s/he > filed Warpaint under "Happy Rhodes" instead of "Rhodes, Happy" ;-) Also, they wrote that "_Wirds_ weren't made for cowards", and that Warpaint is her most recent release. A copy of that page is already going to H&K with my next order, and a letter with corrections is already going to JPC. Robert asked: > I wish more radio stations were open minded. EuroEctos, is radio > progressive on the continent? Do they push you, or do they fall into I can only speak for Germany, but here I definitely and sadly have to say NO. :( Yngve wrote: > It's pretty tough to lend out music by Happy cause you don't know when > you'll see it again :) Tell me about it. I'm without my 1st4 for nearly a month now. But I still have 3 of them still shrinkwrapped as a backup, so if the situation gets really desperate I'll open them. :) ___________________________________________________________ . * | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | _ . * .* . | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | (_) . | --- Happy Rhodes --- | . . o | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.w.open.de | <== ======================================================================== Subject: meeting Ectophiles From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 93 22:55:09 GMT Now that I've finally read all the digests it is about time to write a bit more than only birthday cakes & lists. :) Our holiday, a couple of weeks ago, was well worth all the waiting at airports. That goes for the con, as well for the following days of "real" holiday. The convention started early for us. On the flight to Jersey I had Claudia sitting beside me on the right, reading a short story by Brian W. Aldiss, and Brian W. Aldiss sitting beside me on the left. You might recall that we were going to meet Ectophile Tommy from Sweden at HeliCon. To achieve that we had to go from HiTech e-mail to a LoTech voodoo board trying to describe what to look out for. "I'm wearing a Harvard sweater today". "Look for a tall guy with a black bag". Once you start looking you'll be amazed to see how many tall guys with black bags are around. This didn't work, but finally the internet helped to meet. There was a panel and demonstration about Virtual Reality and The Internet which we (what a surprise) all attended. Within that limited audience it was not so difficult to find my ecto T. We met a couple of times after that, either at other panels or in one of the bars, talked a bit and swapped some CDs. I'm wondering, is there any Ectophile who is travelling without music? Tommy, it was great meeting you! Also "Thanks" for pointing out the 2nd hand record store of the place. I visited it twice and found some excellent CDs in the 1 pound shelf. With CDs at that price (thats about 1.5 US$) I was feeling adventurous enough to buy two CDs of artists I'd never heard of before on my 2nd visit, and I was very pleased with what I got. Those were Jackie Quinn, "Don't Force the River" and Cath Carroll, "England Made Me". A week after returning to Wuppertal we had the chance to meet Karl at the Suzanne Vega concert. Unfortunately this didn't work out, as we had problems with our e-mail connection again. We both received our "how to find me" messages after the concert. :( Concerts of this tour have been talked about in these pages already, so I won't write much about it. The two drawbacks of the concert were that they set up chairs and the opening act (The Graduates) which I didn't like at all. Suzanne Vega and band were very good. They played a good mixture of old material (often with only Suzanne on guitar) and the songs from 99.9 (with the whole band). Nothing like the kind of performance of the current Peter Gabriel shows, but I visit concerts for the songs and a good show is only a nice addition. I was surprised that the audience was not that big (maybe 2000). A month ago Vaya Con Dios attracted 3-4000 people at the same venue. The day before Suzanne Vega the venue had Sade, but you can't see them all. We already have tickets for the next two months. So if other Ectophiles are planning to see Peter Gabriel in Dortmund (May), or Bobo i.w.w.h. in Koeln (June), let us know. ___________________________________________________________ . * | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | _ . * .* . | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | (_) . | --- Happy Rhodes --- | . . o | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.w.open.de | <== ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 1 May 93 13:19:41 CDT From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey) Subject: Nin Hagen Hi, I recently bought the Nina Hagen CD "Nunsexmonkrock" and liked it very much!! What other stuff does she have out and is it as good? Thanks, Vishal ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 1 May 93 15:47 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: tape ? Hi there! I'm glad most of you have minimal problems with C-100s. I always seem to have something going on. Last one in, the pack was so heavy the hub wouldn't turn. Sorry. There's one in every crowd! Bob L. ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 1 May 93 16:23:45 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: Re: bi-weekly >>> >>> different things. Vickie's now BEHAVING heterosexually. (It's really not >>> possible to be behaving bisexually unless you're in bed with a man and a >>> woman at once.) But Meth feels that she (Vickie) is still a bisexual au >>> >>> Drewcifer >>> >> ***************************************** >> >> hi ho. >> >> i just wanted to publicly protest this sentence. beds are for sleeping, >> not sex. > >"Sleep?" What's that? I'm a college student. I don't know what this >"sleep" thing is. Could you explain it to me? :) > >But seriously, folks...you know what I meant. > >Drewcifer > yup. i know what you mean. i still protest it (last time i just tried to give it a somewhat humorous bent. my SO is bi; she behaves bi; she finds women attractive (personally, i think that she has excellent tasted in women -- much better than her taste in men); she wears pink triangles. she hasn't slept w/ any women since shortly after we started dating, which wuz a while ago, but that doesn't mean that shes stopped being bi, or behaving like it. got a call coming thru: c ya brni ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 1 May 93 16:44:00 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: Re: wow! I'm in the top 10! >> Other issues: >> Has anyone heard the story of Monica Seles? It seems some sicko came up >> to her and stabbed her in the back during a match!! Why? What could >> someone possibly have against a tennis player? >> >Yeah, I heard that. All I know is basically what you said. I can't >believe anybody would do that. It's pretty weird. Apparently the knife >was huge and serrated, and just happened to be lying around - i.e. it >wasn't brought in by the stabber. I was half asleep as my clock-radio >spat the information at me though, so maybe there's some embellishments >due to an overactive imagination, but whatever happened, it's not a >good thing for sport in general. > >Chris. > >-- >| ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au >| ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia >| | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in >|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" > well, it turns out that the guy who stabbed her was a big big big fan of the woman she defeated in 91 for the championship, and he felt that the only way that his hero could win was if Seles was injured so that she couldn't play as well. in other news, yesterdays newspaper reported a basketball player in greece who got fouled out of the game in the last 6 minutes, and was so mad that he banged his head on a concrete block, and broke his own neck. yesterdays paper also had 2 interesting pieces of news re: the whole sexuality issue. in san francisco the military is currently ousting 1992's soldier of the year for being gay. meanwhile in philadelphia, mayor randell is proposing a bill that would allow same sex partners to become official "domestic partners" which would mean that they can be covered by medical insurance, etc, just like married het couples. originally the bill allowed for anyone to become "domestic partners", rather than do the marriage thang, but that came under fire because they were afraid that too many heterosexuals would do it, and cost the city tons of cash in medical insurance plans, so it has been cut down to only same-sex partners. (interestingly, the partners do not have to be gay, just live in the same house, be of the same sex, and be involved in a "mutually supportive relationship." as always, brni mojzes@monet.vill.edu ZZ oops ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 1 May 93 16:57:36 EDT From: justin@campion.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: Re: Bel Canto Diva's US Debut Bel Canto is a style of operatic singing. In this case, nothing to do with the Norwegian group of that name, which, by the way, is very much worth listening to and has three albums out which are even available in the USA. For that matter, Cecilia Bartoli has been extremely well received everywhere and should probably be checked out too. justin (p.s. C.B. in the classical section of the record store of course.) ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 1 May 93 17:06:35 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: has anyone had a similar experience? hi all, i've had a very frustrating couple of days and my attempt to get gabriel tickets just kinda topped the whole thing off. when i got to work, i got on the phone and started calling the ticket agency: busy, redial, busy, redial,.... finally i got through, and i said, "do you have gabriel tickets?" Ticket Agent: certainly. where would you like to sit? Brni: well, where do you have tickets for? TA: we still have some seats in the first few rows. B: REALLY??!!??! TA: how many would you like? B: two. by the way, how much are they? TA: oh, i can let them go at $175 each. B: uuuuum... uhhhhh. how much were the tickets on the first level? TA: those are only $100 each. B: i see. TA: how much were you interested in spending? there are seats farther back... B: never mind. its not worth it. click. fuckers. ticket agents have now become the legal scalpers of tickets, because when the venue's box office doesn't open until 1/2 hour after the tickets go on sale, the ticket agents can get all the best seats and then charge anything they damn well please for them (you know they only paid the regular price, no matter where the seats are, but they sell them for $175!!!!!!). in the past, the best seats always went to the real fanatics who would camp out overnight to get tickets. now, the bests seats, like everything else, goes to the people with the most damn money. uli, you can complain all you want about postal prices in deutschland, but at least you don't have to pay $100 to get seats to a gabriel concert that you will need to bring binoculars to be able to see anyways, and where the sound will have turned to mush long before it ever gets to you. i've seen gabriel every time he's come to town since '83; i saw the security tour, the second security tour, the so tour, and the second so tour (twice). now that pete has hit the "big time" however, i can't go because i can't afford the damn tickets. the music industry sucks wet farts out of dead pigeons. brni "if this is heaven then i'm bailing out." ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 1 May 93 22:30 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Happy Review from Philly The May 1993 issue of "Nite Life", a free rag -er, mag - available in local record stores sports a review of Equipoise this month. I quote: "When I was first asked to listen to this disc, I squirmed in my seat and though of one thing. "I don't like this New Age Programmed stuff." I'm no chauvinist either. I love a ton of female artists, but there's something hollow and weak about the sound of most machine music. There are some I do like but generally it seemed a slick way at best to make music. "Maybe it's her incredible voice range that pleases me. I tend to appreciate what I don't have. At one moment she's floating around way up in the highest vocal range below human pain threshold, then she dips way down to the level where you're not sure who is singing, some baritone dude or Happy through a synthesizer. Who cares? It sounds good. "Happy takes a page out of the Kate Bush Book and employs a variety of synth sounds to get her mood across. At its worst, it's sometimes a bit repetitive and boring, but at its best she attains a haunting quality in her music that I find intriguing. It's like someone started off with an interesting theme and layered it up but kept it from getting too monotonous. It helps that she seems to have something to say in her lyrics. That kept me listening just a little bit closer. "Happily, some of the tunes are done with straight piano. That gives her sound a purity that too much programming can steal from a recording. I have always been a sucker for a sweet voice accompanied by piano with a ghost of airy violin synth in the background. "Just as the name "Equipoise" suggests, Happy Rhodes walks a very fine line to reach a balance on this one. This is certainly not for everyone or for every mood, but then what music really is?" Jon Burnham Well. There was a nebulous review. Aside from mixing pitch with volume WRT pain threshold, it was kinda vague overall. Sometimes he writes as if he likes it, then he's complaining. In the same issue, this "critic"(Ob Sam Beckett ref.) reviews Jellyfish's Spilt Milk glowingly, noting the "layers of synth" as a great thing. I'm going to start eating CrackerJacks again. Perhaps I too will find a music critic's license in one of the boxes. Anyway, it's not a negative review. And it's accompanied by a lovely S. Beard photo of Happy at the mic. Well, see you all again soon. Looking forward to Lynn's revelations, I remain, Your humble servant, Roberto D. Lovejoy ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)