Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #234 ecto, Number 234 Wednesday, 6 May 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Fried green hard disks quickies Fluff (tm) Happy Birthday Joe Bio 101 1/2 Cliff Notes Wanted, and other stories _New Yorker_ Tori review A correction A correction, Take II Stuff ice cream, yeah! ======================================================================== Date: 6-MAY-1992 00:03:28.53 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Fried green hard disks Hi! Well, this message is coming to you courtesy of my hard drive, which literally melted this evening in the middle of the 20-page paper I have due tomorrow afternoon. Guess I'm asking for an extension. The thing erased itself before my very eyes. Quite spectacular, but *why* couldn't it have waited until I finished this one, LAST paper????? The perfect irony is, for once in my life I was smart and saved to floppy the whole way through, so I didn't lose a bit of it. Unfortunately, literally no one else on this campus uses my word processor, so it's not going to help me too much... Anyway, on to pertinent matters. I am sending a copy of the 100-minute Happy Sampler to Doug as soon as I get my act together, so all orders for such should now go to him. Jessica and Barry, yours are on the way, in case you haven't noticed things have been quite chaotic around here, and have just become even worse. :P Also, next Tuesday morning will be my last radio show on WESU, and possibly my last one ever. :( I could conceivably do a show here this summer, but I just found out they will be locking up the CD players and CDs, so there will be no new releases available and it'll be a vinyl-only operation. Not to put vinyl down (woj ;), but my show is predominantly new CD releases, and having to restrict myself to the station's vinyl library, which is very extensive except when it comes to my format, would be more frustrating than not doing a show at all. So next week is gonna be all, folks... SO, I'm soliciting requests from you all. It's going to be a three-hour affair, but I'm planning on programming the latter two with you all in mind. Send your requests to me before next Monday, 11 May- anything in the mellowish, ecto-musical-taste-with-female-artists-in-mind-but-not-exclusively. :) And if you want a copy of the show, place your orders too. Got that? Requests for the Champagne Jam Grand Finale via e-mail by Monday 11 May (or, if you're in the area, call (203) 344-7922 between 9am-noon on Tuesday, 12 May :). Requests for tapes of said show between now and whenever I stop taking orders. You might just even get your name said over the air. Ooooo. :> ====================================================================== |Meredith Tarr "Get to the point you sappy wimps| |Wesleyan University I haven't got a lifetime | |Middletown, CT Simplicity is beauty | |USA, Earth Are there poets less sublime?" | |mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu -Happy Rhodes | ====================================================================== ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 May 92 01:28:13 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: quickies to clarify myself regarding tori on abc: i *do* want it to appear on network television, just not in an adultered form. i got the new arson garden cd today. i haven't listened to it yet though. there was too much stuff to plow through from the past three days of mail that i was sick for...bleah. i know there was something else, but i can't recall what it was. and i really should be sleeping now anyways, so it can wait. nyah. woj ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 May 92 07:45:32 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Fluff (tm) Greetings, A warm fuzzy blue and especially HAPPY BIRTHDAY to MARK SEMICH, one of the privileged Ectophiles to be blessed by seeing Happy live! Enjoy your day, Mark! [Happy has to record a Happy Birthday song some day, at least for us. :) ] I got my woj box Tuesday, and have nearly finished creating a pair of tapes to use for dubbing. I had heard that the tapes came out well, yet even so I was surprised at how well. The quality is great for the conditions. The recording has all the things the Albany concert-goers remember so fondly, the talking in the bar (even some Ectophile voices. I caught my own in there!), "Ray! Ray! We love you, Ray!", the sound system hums, buzzes, and feedback, and even Happy's magical music. :) Orders should start hitting the postal system later this week. Of course, anyone who wants a dub drop me a note. I will also repeat Greg's caveat, now enshired in the FAQ. Please do not copy these concert tapes for anyone who is not already a confirmed Happy fan. Let's not betray the enormous faith that Happy and Kevin have given us. By the way, would you believe that a package of tapes got to Klaus from me, in spite of the German postal strike! As usual, Ecto defies the odds to get through! I heard from Vickie yesterday, and she had some things she wanted me to pass on. She went to the Chicago Tori Amos concert, as skeptical as ever. In fact, she almost went home when she found out most of the concert had been sold to music industry bigwigs (or those who think they are :) ). However, by the third song, she was a Tori convert, and Vickie hit full gush mode about the concert. (Vickie in full gush is always a treat. :) ) She takes back and apologizes for (especially to Court) all the bad and indifferent things she has said about Tori, now calling her a true and enormous talent. She would even like to hear some of the _Y Kant Tori Read_ songs in _Little Earthquakes_ style arrangements. She met a very nice and sweet Tori after the concert, where Vickie asked her _the_ question. _The_ answer? The cover of _Little Earth- quakes_ was not inspired by _The Kick Inside_ cover. :) The songs she performed in Chicago were: Little Earthquakes Crucify Silent All These Years Precious Things Happy Phamtom Leather Whole Lotta Love Upside Down Me And A Gun Winter 1st encore: Tear In Your Hand Smells Like Teen Spirit Mother 2nd encore: China Angie Song For Eric "Song for Eric" is not normally part of the show, but she may have played it because her boyfriend (for whom "China" was written, trivia buffs) was from Chicago. Of course, while at the concert, Vickie engaged in some successful Happyvangelism, so successful she had nothing left to give to Tori. :( Meredith, Vickie wanted to tell you that on _Y Kant Tori Read_, the song "Etienne Trilogy" starts with the lines Maybe I'm a witch Lost in time Running through the fields Of Scotland By your side She kept forgetting to tell you. Vickie will not be back on the net in the foreseeable future, so I would also like to second (maybe even third, since I'm sure I've said this before :) ) my and others' suggestions to drop Vickie a letter or give her a call. I think she would appreciate it very much. Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 06 May 92 08:41:21 +0100 From: Terry Partis Subject: Happy Birthday Joe Hi, Happy Birthday to you, Joe Dembski, have a real happy fuzzy blue Day. Terry, ======================================================================== Date: 6 May 1992 10:58:49 CDT From: Subject: Bio 101 1/2 Cliff Notes Wanted, and other stories This morning, I noticed my neighbors, the expectant feline parents, hotly engaged in a quickie. My intuitive sense is that Momcat is not due for _at least_ another month or so, based on the rule of thumb that Beth has suggested to me. Even if she had delivered, I would be surprised to see the feline libi- do regenerate so soon, let alone persist through pregnancy. (Indeed, it was always my understanding that estrus occurs on a fixed schedule, and that the sex drive--for animals generally, not just cats--is only manifested at those times.) Enquiring Mind wants to know the facts of cat life :-). (Thanks again to the several of you who vouchsafed answers to my earli- er query about these things, BTW. As historically a dog person, albeit with no experience with pregnant dogs, feel free to run your dog questions by me.) On more relevant matters: I had another resume-composing session with Vickie yesterday, and she says she has received the tapes from Albert, and from the other individual (Greg?) who recently professed in these pages to having sent some to her. The subject line in Meredith's last posting somehow reminded me of a recen t record-store browse, in which I noticed that a recent album by the Smithereen s was titled _Fried Tomatoes_, and the cover was even predominantly green. All of which has gotten me to thinking even further ("oh, please" you all say :-)): If Meredith's system is an IBM (notwithstanding that they'll piously claim that their hardware just doesn't crash like that), are we really talking a Fried Big Blue Hard Disk, which hopefully will be as close as we ever get to a Fried Fuzzy Blue Hard Disk (though it wouldn't surprise me much if the latter is not that bad a description of the drive's current condition :-) )? Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 May 92 13:51:43 EDT From: shane@sbcs.sunysb.edu Subject: _New Yorker_ Tori review Ectophiles & Amosites: The following is a review of _Little Earthquakes_ from the latest issue of _New Yorker_ magazine. It is reprinted without permission (so sue me :-). ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tori Amos is a strange, strange case. The other day we were flipping through the lyrics of the young singer-pianist's candid, stormy album "Little Earthquakes." Amos is in the practice of capitalizing a handful of words in each song, the result being that one can read her lyrics in condensed form: "CRUCIFY... COURAGE... GOD... HEART... LOVE... GUILT... I CRY." Or: "WINTER... DRIFTS GET DEEPER... CHANGE... MELTS... SKATING... PROUD... WHITE... HORSES." Amos's lyrics are largely imagistic, full of sex and death and not a few stunningly frank turns of phrase. She has a gorgeous voice, but quite often -- what with her uneasy melodies, her sudden flights into the upper register, her heavy, frantic breaths, and her little-girl whispers -- she sounds disconcertingly like Kate Bush. Her song "Girl" is the sincerest flattery we've ever heard. The other night, Amos opened the state side leg of her Little Earthquakes tour with a solo show at the Bottom Line. (The performance was videotaped for ABC's "In Concert" series, which gives you an idea of the remarkable sendoff that this record is receiving.) Early on, we found Amos's stage persona to be a bit off-putting, if only because it so clearly was a persona. She flung her red hair around. She writhed vividly against the edge of the piano stool. She did some outre vocalizing that struck us as high-concept yodelling. But the performance did an abrupt aboutface with "Me and a Gun," an a-cappella song about a rape, which she dedicated to "a fourteen-year-old Irish girl." Amos's rendition was brutal and lovely, one of the starkest, bravest things we've seen in some time. With "Me and a Gun," Amos sloughed off her former showiness. She performed the remaining numbers -- including wonderfully odd covers of the Rolling Stones' "Angie" and Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" -- with a kind of sacred hush that marks her best songs, those songs that sound least like Kate Bush and most like Tori Amos. ------------------------------------------------------------------ -Shane -- Shane Bouslough | #include shane@sbcs.sunysb.edu | #include ======================================================================== Date: 6 May 1992 15:25:18 CDT From: Subject: A correction It just dawned on me that the ======================================================================== Date: 6 May 1992 15:36:23 CDT From: Subject: A correction, Take II (Some sort of system glitch sent the first attempt to you before its time. Here we go again.) It just dawned on me that the Smithereens album whereof I spoke in my last posting was actually called _Green Thoughts_, not _Fried Thoughts_ as originally stated. The cassette box did not, however, give any appearance of heat-treatment, in either cholesterol-free or cholesterol-rich oil :-). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 May 92 16:25:24 EDT From: Chris Sampson Subject: From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Angelos says: (in response to a question posed by me...) CS>Best I could come up with is a reference to the actual "hunger" for CS>satisfying sounds (poetry, music) that can't be slaked...as if one were CS>feeding a tapeworm. Sound reasonable, or am I OTL :) AK>Sounds OK, but why does she sing 'Go away'? Does she want to rid herself of AK>the hunger? Are the parasites the 'sappy little wimps'? Funny how I never AK>gave a lot of thought to this line, even though I have used it as a .sig AK>for almost a year now. In greek we use the word parasites to refer to audio AK>interference (excuse my ignorance but is this also done in english?). So AK>I have always associated the 'parasites' to static, that feeds off the AK>noble sounds. And that is why they have to go away. MY RESPONSE: IMHO: 'Go away' refers to the desire to be rid of the 'sappy little wimps' (i.e., bad poets like Susan Polis Schutz, or Leonard Nimoy). A separate thought from "My ears have parasites". To the best of my knowledge, we do not use parasites as a synonym for static, though I like the idea. CS> Don't remember who mentioned DG in their last communique, but there CS>is a one paragrpah blurb about the "performance artist" on p. 212 of the CS>April Vanity Fair. Who IS she anyway?? > CS>Diamanda Galas -- Must be this picture of the mostly nude Ms. Galas (with CS>long hair strategically arranged) on a crucifix that prompted NPR to call CS>her a "gospel singer" ;> This leads me to ask the following question: > CS>Does _she_ have any CDs out??????? :) AK>Diamanda a 'gospel singer'? Nope. She is of greek-amaerican origin, grew up MY REPONSE: Just to clarify, I did NOT think DG was a gospel singer, but was merely refering to someone's report that an ignorant reporter/writer at NPR classified her as such. Above is an attempt at humor :-) Sounds like an interesting singer. Anyone else hear her yet???? Chris Sampson ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 May 92 16:42:41 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: A correction Mitch (almost) says: > It just dawned on me that the alas, it dusked on him, too... ;) lessee, can i think of some Happy comment to justify an otherwise flooby post? hmm, think think... eep! of course: 1) a very Happy b'day to Mark Semich!!!!!!!! :) 2) finally listened to the Albany tapes -- brought back lots of details i had forgotten. hmm, but i seem to have forgotten them again... can *not* wait to see Happy perform again! 3) for those keeping score at home. your humble footah is a very very happy footah... :) ut! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "d'ya know what? i love you better now" -- KTB ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Stuff Date: Wed, 06 May 92 17:24:04 EDT Greg writes: >2) finally listened to the Albany tapes -- brought back lots of >details i had forgotten. hmm, but i seem to have forgotten them >again... can *not* wait to see Happy perform again! So, you lucky people who saw Tori in Northampton, was a date posted for a Happy concert there? June is rapidly approaching... BTW, is it safe to assume that the wesleyan show will not happen? Chris writes wrt my parasitical explanation: > IMHO: 'Go away' refers to the desire to be rid of the 'sappy little >wimps' (i.e., bad poets like Susan Polis Schutz, or Leonard Nimoy). A >separate thought from "My ears have parasites". To the best of my >knowledge, we do not use parasites as a synonym for static, though I like >the idea. Oops, I guess you're right about the 'Go away'. But I *still* associate parasites to static. :) Re: Sophie B. Hawkins. Rolling Stone gives her album *** and even has a tiny piece on her. I saw her video on VH-1 , and I will agree with kIrI who said that the video was good, but the song was so so. Angelos ------- Meaningless imagery plays across my tv screen I see myself endorsing deodorants, someone wake me from this dream ======================================================================== From: my friend my moon Date: Wed, 6 May 1992 17:34:03 EDT Subject: Re: Stuff On May 6, 5:24pm, kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu wrote: -> -> Re: Sophie B. Hawkins. Rolling Stone gives her album *** and even has a -> tiny piece on her. I saw her video on VH-1 , and I will agree with kIrI who -> said that the video was good, but the song was so so. -> I just heard this song on the radio today. My aptmate and I agreed that the song would be decent if she got rid of that ultra annoying...DAmmmmmn... in the chorus... Now I don't care about damn being in the song to begin with, it's just that it _doesn't_ fit - it sounds ridiculous. I would be curious to hear some of her other songs... Jessica and Greg: got the ectozine card today...I was going to write a card back but im tooo lazy..and hopefully you'll catch this here.. but my NY address goes defunct as of the 17th....blessed freedom, and loss of reality are imminent :) (is that how you spell that...oh who cares..:) ) Anyway could y'all change the address to my home one which is: kiri @ 1144 Lake Ave. Wilmette, Illinois 60091 Thanks! kIrI 'excuse me, this might sound like a funny question, but what would be a good wine to serve with curried goat?' -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Black room mirror echoes hargieka@craft.camp.clarkson.edu< > Warm blood tickles ebony lips Kirstin A. Hargie (kIrI)< > tear the cracking bone asunder "Just another 20-something< > set to grovel screams Gothic." < > fire whips < ----------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Subject: ice cream, yeah! From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Wed, 06 May 92 22:17:36 GMT Me, myself, I was confused: > song (ref: "Possessed" in Albany). :) It was the Philly concert, of course. For a while I thought I could differentiate them. :( Welcome Chris Kennel!!! Er ... Chrissy. :) Mitch informed us: > Something for the provisional government of the birthday list: I have > been able to ascertain that Marvin Camras, reputed to be the father of magnetic > recording, without whose invention much of what we do would not be done, was > born on January 1, 1916, making him a Capricorn. I have not made any attempt > to ascertain his natal day-of-the-week. It was a saturday. :) So, let's talk about "Ein gemischtes Eis ohne Sahne, bitte!", which is absolutely correct. "Ein gemischtes Eis" is a selection of ice, usually three balls of chocolate, vanilla and strawberry, and I count it among the most boring choices (I prefer walnut ice cream:). The "Schlag" that Greg mentioned is indeed the common word for whipped cream in Austria and Bavaria (short for "Schlagobers"). "Sahne" is the most used term (short for "Schlagsahne") in the rest of the german speaking community. That should be enough about this topic, except that we should not forget the practical side after this theoretical journey. Excuse me for a minute; I'll go get some real ice-cream. ;) Thanks to Greg and Jess for the shiny new FAQ! Especially for the info on international orders. Although I've placed several orders with AG, I never found out how much postage to include. In one case I even got back a check from AG because I overpaid them. As I'm currently preparing another order (who isn't?), this information is *very* useful!!! Welcome back Angelos! It's a pity that you've missed Sarah McLachlan in SF (I shouldn't say Frisco, right? ;). Some Love-Hounds wrote about attending this show. If you'd like to read about it, let me know. BTW: I saw "Solace" in a record shop today for the first time. Unfortunately I forgot to check wether it was the canadian or american release. ___________________________________________________________ . * | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | _ . * .* . | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | (_) . | --- Happy Rhodes --- | . . o | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.w.open.de | <== ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)