Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #512 ecto, Number 512 Tuesday, 30 March 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: WXPN Error **with Angelos silliness warning in effect!** Meanwhile, back at the Mittel Ouest... Texas 4 Non Blondes Why Not Strawberries? Re: Happy in a Catalog Today's your birthday friend.... Happy Birthday (and Yay!) connected again? & some notes Re: Tones and Hair Poetry by KaTe, BeNeLux and The Magician Mylene Farmer videos - SPOILERS Nina Hagen Suzanne Vega Recommended size of Happy orders ======================================================================== Subject: Re: WXPN Error **with Angelos silliness warning in effect!** Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 16:45:22 EST From: Angelos Kyrlidis 5 more ways to get confused about KaTe and Happy ------------------------------------------------ 5. Both have done one tour and played at benefit concerts. 4. Both have musicians/producers as their SOs. 3. Both have written songs inspired by movies/books. 2. Both started writing simple songs and evolved to more complex structures. 1. Both have 6 studio albums out. 5 ways that Happy is different ------------------------------ 5. Happy's tour was last year. Kate's was last decade. 4. Kevin tends to make sure that the production is high quality. Del usually messes it up. 3. Happy hasn't written a song *for* a movie yet. KaTe has sung/written more than one. 2. Happy writes on the guitar. KaTe writes on the piano. 1. Happy has released 6 albums in the last 7 years. Kate has released the same number in 15 years. :-) Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 15:25:08 CST From: Subject: Meanwhile, back at the Mittel Ouest... As Happy and other of our friends were making the scene at 21st Century Sound, I was at the Music Box taking in Chantal Akerman's new film _Night and Day_, about a young _Parisienne_ the focus of whose life is love in general and sex in particular. It has moments when you wonder if it's spoofing the alleged talkiness of French films, but in the aggregate it's well worth seeing. After the show, acting on a whim, I walked down to Rose on Ashland to see what was new, intending not to buy anything if I could help it. As fate would have it, I saw the last copies of several titles in the bins as I walked around the store. I pondered whether I really needed them just now, but finally per- suaded myself that these particular items were ones that I don't come across regularly, so that it was worth it, to paraphrase George Washington Plunkett, to see my opportunities and take 'em. This little buying spree cost me $72 and change, but--as we shall see--I have no regrets. The particular swag in question consisted--indeed, still consists--of: 1) Suzanne Vega's CD EP of "99.9F," with bonus tracks. 2) Tasmin Archer, _Great Expectations_. 3) Mary Black, _Babe in the Woods_ (I think that's the correct title) 4) Cheryl Wheeler, _Half a Book_ 5) 'Til Tuesday, _Voices Carry_ The last I've had on tape for years, but was pleased to find it on CD at last. I mention it principally to remind myself to mention that someone in one of the music newsgroups wrote that the new issue of _Musician_ has an interview with Aimee Mann. Be this as it may, it remains my favorite among their several albums. I was awake for Sinead's first set on SNL, and made a mental note to ask in these pages whether _the_ Bit O' Business occurred after that, or the second one. (Turns out that that was all epiphenomenal anyhow.) As fate would have it, she was shown the next night on _World News Now_, singing at the peace rally in Dublin. Her hair is growing back, and is not bad looking at all. But I digress. I zonked out on the rest of SNL, and finally woke up about 2:30 in the morning, caught the rest of the Tom Waits segment on _Night Flight_, and then decided to salvage the night by playing my newest acqui- sitions. I made mental notes as I went along of what I would write of them in these pages, and now remember more or less the following. The real allure of the SV EP CD (oh, them initials :-) ) is the bonus tracks: acoustic versions of "Rock in This Pocket" and "In Liverpool," and the first known release of "Men Will Be Men." The first two songs hold up quite well indeed when decoupled from Mitchell Froom's bells and whistles. The latter song was also acoustic; it was a pleasant throwback to the sounds of her first album. I couldn't help thinking what it would sound like if Froom got his hands on it, but concluded that a bit of augmentation on the accordion (cf. ELP's "Still You Turn Me On, or the Rascals' "How Can I be Sure") couldn't have hurt. Tasmin Archer's album is high-quality soft rock--not strictly ethereal, but well within the best tradition of the ecto school of music. I found it inter- esting that she's one of the relatively few black artists working in this genre to have come to my attention. Mary Black's album, which I didn't listen to all of for reasons of time and fatigue, is a bit closer to pure ethereal, but is also eclectic with its ex- tensive use of amplified instrumental accompaniment. I don't remember whether I first noticed Cheryl Wheeler being sung the praises of in these pages, or on _The Midnight Special_, which I often read/write ecto while listening to the Wednesday rerun of. It has that distinctive feel which which can often be discerned on albums by independent artists on small labels --the musical accompaniment rests heavily on small number of acoustic musici- ans, but the lyrics are more sophisticated than most of what's recorded for the mass market. Earlier that evening, I noticed that _Calvin and Hobbes_ took on William Blake's "Tyger, Tyger," which had been taken on in these pages a few weeks ago, and made a mental note--which, of course, I promptly forgot about, to share the content. Maybe tomorrow. Does the bit of pyromaniacal business in their act make Einsturzende Neubauten, arguably, the Donnie Wahlberg of the alternative set? For Kate Bush to be concurrently misconstrued as dead, and the real voice be- hind Happy's music is, unarguably, one for alt.folklore.urban :-). Mitch --------------------------------------- "When it's 3 o'clock in New York, it's still 1938 in London." --Bette Midler (quoted by Lord Palumbo, chairman of the Arts Council of Great Britain, in today's installment in _The Bright New City_ lecture series) ======================================================================== Subject: Texas 4 Non Blondes Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 17:11:06 -0800 From: johnz@eaglet.rain.com Yngve remarks about the band Texas: > >Not very well known bands from Scotland and also not many bands with two >female guitarists :) Texas is one of them though. Glasgow is their homebase >and where the band was grounded 7 years ago. It's hard to place them cause >of the contrasts inside the band itself - from the rough guitarist Ally >McErlaine (seems like she loves the slide and I love her playing) to the >gorgeous voice of Sharleen Spiteri. Their first album _Southside_ was >fronted by the mega-hit _I don't need a lover_ and the album itself sold >over 2 million copies. But they are not known for their studio-acts but >for their live-shows which is what I've heard incredible. I haven't had a chance to see them live (I don't think they were quite as big a hit in the States), but they are something special. I think I prefer the first album, but they're both great. A favorite recent discovery of mine is a band called 4 Non Blondes, from the Bay area I believe. 3 women and a token male, the lead singer Linda Perry has a powerful voice which resembles that of Johnette Napolitano of Concrete Blonde -- might have something to do with the choice of band name. ;) Anyway, the album is called _Bigger, Better, Faster, More!_, and not nearly as derivative sounding as this post probably suggests. If you like CB you might want to give this a try. John Zimmer johnz@eaglet.rain.com ======================================================================== Date: 29 Mar 1993 20:55:17 -0500 (EST) From: ROBNPAM@delphi.com Subject: Why Not Strawberries? Meredith, Yes, I was referring to Prodigy. Uncharted territory with lots of people who are ripe for a Happy experience. :) I know several Tori/Kate/Enya/Loreena/etc. fans and it seems only natural... Vickie, Jessica, anyone, My husband manages a Strawberries record store in Troy (next town over from Albany). He's going to be speaking to the regional manager very soon about putting together a "local music" section in his store, and of course he wants Happy to be part of it. I was just wondering if anyone knows of any history of trying to get Happy-stuff stocked at Strawberries. It's curious to me that they don't have her. He has to order all stock from their main warehouse so that may prove to be a slight problem in getting this local music thing going, but in the long run, if Sam Goody and lots of independent stores are stocking her, I see no reason why Strawberries can't. Any help/thoughts appreciated. --Pamela ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 23:40:48 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Happy in a Catalog > Music by Mail from Backroads Music > 418 Tamal Plaza > Corte Madera, CA 94925 > 1-800-767-4748 > > HAPPY RHODES "Equipoise" Thank you for this, Troy!! Vickie ======================================================================== From: "Klaus Kluge" Date: 30 Mar 93 09:40:43 MET-1 Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ***** Marc Power ****** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marc Power Sun March 30 1958 The Project Warpaint Mon April 1 1991 Brilliant! Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Stephen Golden Sat April 10 1971 Jokey Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Angelos Kyrlidis Fri April 22 1966 Taurus Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Pablo Iglesias Thu April 23 1964 Positive Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Christine Waite Tue April 25 1972 Taurus Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.w.open.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 3:23:50 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Happy Birthday (and Yay!) HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Marc Power!! Marisa Tomei! Yeah! Al Pacino! Yeah! Yay! Vickie ======================================================================== From: "Klaus Kluge" Date: 30 Mar 93 11:20:41 MET-1 Subject: connected again? & some notes It's been a long time again, but digests came in faster than I could read them. To make things worse, Xenox (the machine where I'm connected to) moved to another location so that I was cut off. Hopefully this move will make the connection more reliable in the future, as there'll be someone around most of the time to boot the machine when it breaks down (which happened much too often). While Claudia was in Athens I took the chance to listen to Equipoise over the headphones for the first time. Somehow I had the impression that the music sometimes was too slow, but that might be a problem of my really old CD player, or maybe my brain was running too fast. I was also going to write more about SOS, but I better do that when I have the lyrics in front of me, so this has to wait. Before I start reading the digests which magically appeared this morning (xenox seems to be alive again), here are some comments on older ones. Liz & Justin: > Yes, it is the first annual Ecto Fete brought to you by Justin and > Liz (she formerly of Boston) somewhere around the 7th or 8th of April Hey, don't you know that the 10th of April would be a much better time for a celebration? :) Unfortunately we'll be at another place for a holiday at that time. We've already noticed relatively good air fares from Duesseldorf to Montreal. Angelos wrote: > After listening to 'Closer' tonight both forward and backwards, I was able > to interpret the hidden lyrics that are on the hidden track on the CD. > [is that a limited edition/first pressing thing? ] Yes, Angelos, this was a very limited edition; you got the only pressing of it, so treasure it. :) Angelos wrote: > Steve V writes: > >Since Ectophiles have pretty much the best taste in everything, I > >hope you won't mind the above shameless plug. _Parker Lewis_ is > >my favorite show of recent times. > I am sorry but I think you are contradicting yourself in this paragraph...;-) > For the sake of ectodiversity I want to state that I cannot *stand* PL. PL started on German TV a couple of weeks ago, is aired daily, and I have seen every single episode so far. It shouldn't be too difficult to figure out if I support Steve vD or Angelos in this case. :) Martin told us: > been digitising short sound samples from all of Happy's albums, > for use as System Beeps. Here, I'm digitising sounds samples from Parker Lewis for the same purpose. :) Angelos about Suzanne Vega concerts: > This being her last show in the US (except for one tonight in NJ), European > ectophiles should be alert. I *strongly* urge you to not miss this show. Well, I can tell you that 50% of all known German Ectophiles will see her Duesseldorf show in April. Drewcifer asked: > What IS Happy's range, anyhow? Happy's vocal range is ten feet tall. ;) Dirk wrote: > WRT CD-singles: I like CD-singles, but I hate it if they contain three > or four times the same song in different versions or remixes. But this is still better than the one I just bought to complete my collection: "Hole in heaven" from Bobo In White Wooden Houses runs 7 minutes and something, just containing 2 songs from the album. Alan again > I never heard Kate Bush on Boston radio stations either, come to think of > it... Not that I listen that much though. I heard Kate's cover of "Rocket Man" a lot on WFNX while I was in Boston in the winter of '91. _____ Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge private: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto work: kkluge@materna.de ======================================================================== From: Ulrich Grepel Subject: Re: Tones and Hair Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 13:12:08 MET DST Hi, > > Joe Zitt writes: > > > From: Ulrich Grepel > > > > > As every 'complete' instrument there should be eleven strings (or colors) > > per octave. Not twelve, since that includes the first and final note twice. > > How's that again? A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# looks like twelve to me... > > Of course, an 11 tone per octave scale could be interesting (if disorienting). > I may try it if I ever start playing with alternate tunings on my EPS again. > Eeeeeeeeck!!! Of course you're right. I just didn't think enough count it as written in some kind of half-sleep. I thought about octaves being considered as a set of eight notes (non-flat/sharp-ones that is). Of course then there are seven different notes... Bye, Uli ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 14:37:27 +0200 From: Ulrich Grepel Subject: Poetry by KaTe, BeNeLux and The Magician (Please insert some parentheses into the subject line, I don't have anything to tell about magic poems... ;-) Some people here were thinking of Kate as a non-poetic lyric writer. I don't know if you don't know her very early poems she published in a school newsletter. I am not someone who feels competent at all when the subject is about poetry, but I think even I can recognize these truly beautiful poems. They don't rhyme, they've no recognizable meter, but they are really beautifully arranged words that speak for themselves. There are at least six known poems by KaTe (are there more?), but I'll just give one example: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Crucifixion =============== He is pushed forward from the steps, Glistening eyes glare from around at the dropping figure. Silence ceases and murmurs gather quickly like the grabbing of a hand. Guilty onlookers hide their eyes from the shame that they know and forbid to reveal. Slowly the dimness falls. The man weeps and his forsaken tears fall Slipping down the trembling and battered body onto the dust. He collapses down onto the ground. His head bruises past the stones, scarring his tear-stained face. He staggers to his feet groping towards his fate. Sharply, iron pierces flesh, and the shape is raised on the hill. Stillness overcomes the cheering spectators, And the mocked and pridebroken lead turns in outcry. The people form and run down the hill. With a last glance at his betrayers, He dissolves into a limp, dumb body, As the blood red sun sinks into the skull of a dead man. Catherine Bush (Form I, 1969-70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It might be a bit overdone, but I like it very much. And please: Think about the age KaTe wrote this!!! Uli P.S.: >From: "Mary (M.L.) Rowe" > Benelux: sounds like a 50's vacuum cleaner to me!! Are you thinking of Electrolux, a manufacturer of vacuum cleaners who's still around today? P.P.S.: Anthony: Due to 'KB Complete' 'The Magician' was recorded in Feb. 79. Don't know about the film. P.P.P.S.: P.S.'es are good for one-liners where a subject would say almost all there is to say. I don't think they're childish. I don't think that would be wrong. Of course sometimes, when there are too many one-liners it looks a little childish. Oh - this is getting a four-liner by now... ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 14:37:35 +0200 From: Ulrich Grepel Subject: Mylene Farmer videos - SPOILERS Ok, I promised it. Here's the first bunch of reviews, even if I am not one who feels competent to do good reviews. If you don't want to spoil your personal experience, hit 'n' or whatever is appropriate for your system now. (How do I get ^L's into my message that consist of a single character? Do I have to insert just the appropriate ASCII code? Or is there a common trick?) Uli SPOILERS follow... If the following reviews are a bit confusing (or even wrong), it's me and not the videos. I am working from memory here (that is not watching the movies but rather just holding the tapes in my fingers). Mylene Farmer - Les Clips ------------------------- 1. Maman A Tort (3:50) This one is the oldest MF video I know/have ('84), and it's a normal video like anyone else's videos (but not of the quick cut type where there are more different scenes than video frames). The most interesting thing is Mylene's hair color, since it is not yet red as in all later videos. 2. Plus Grandir (7:40) This one is beginning to show Mylene's ambition in videos, it's a film that shows Mylene on a graveyard, looking like if she's mourning. She's also shown in a building with something becoming alive that's not supposed to be alive (no, it's not a horror movie). Unfortunately my French isn't that good to verify how the lyrics of the song match the video, but as far as it goes the song might be about dying. 3. Libertine (10:50) This one is the first one that is a 'full length mini movie'. The movie plays in some former century (18th ?), showing a classic pistol duel (right with those one-shot frontloading pistols) between Mylene and someone else (of course Mylene wins), shows kind of a noble-people-party, shows some naked women (including Mylene herself) bathing and - later - Mylene making love to one of the party members. The whole thing is filmed in a way you would expect in a non-action type cinema movie, not at all like a normal video is shot. Also all of the costumes (as far as there are any) are very lavish. And there are lots of actors (not musicians) in the film, of course some only statists, but as I said before it's a movie not a video. These generic points are valid for all of her movie-like videos. 4. Tristana (11:30) Another full length mini movie, this time it shows the story of Snowwhite. There are no dwarves (or dwarfs, too much of Tolkien influence in me...), but there is that nasty lady that would like to get rid of Mylene (she - of course - plays Snowwhite) to be the most beautiful one again, and she sends out a henchman to poison her. And there's the beautiful man that rescues her. Oh - before I forget: The non-music parts of this video is of course complete with dialogue (like in the other videos too), but not in English (of course not - she's French). No, not in French either (???) - it's Russian. The whole story is playing in that cold area of the world. To make the dialogue understandable it is subtitled - this time in French... ok, I'll steal another few minutes of my time and do another tape: Mylene Farmer - The Videos -------------------------- 1. Sans Contrefacon (8:30) This video shows a guy carrying a puppet along some deserted landscape not too far away from a shore. The puppet is of the ventriloquist type and of course moves it's mouth from alone - without the guy doing it. The two of them meet some gypsies and beg them for some food. They get it, but the gypsies are making fun of the guy's puppet and throw it from one gypsie to another so that the guy can't reach it. At last he gets the puppet back and runs away. At some points in the story the puppet gets alive (really...) and it's Mylene, I would say these moments show the guy's dreams or at least his feelings toward the puppet. 2. Douces (17:30) This FULL LENGTH movie shows Mylene in France at Napoleon's time, somehow hurt, found and cured by British soldiers who accidentally run into France (they wanted to visit us here (Germany (or whatever was here then))). Mylene is molested by some of the soldiers, but doesn't mind too much if they're from the higher ranks. As a reward she is 'allowed' to continue a punishment with a whip, but she doesn't hit the punished one but one of the higher soldiers. Of course she then has to flee, but she is caught again. Then the French army is shown, they have the idea that British soldiers aren't supposed to be on French territory. So they 'use' some females to seduce the British soldiers, succeed with this and then have an easy victory after one of the females committed treason and signalled the French guys when a good moment was there. Mylene is French, but she obviously doesn't like what this female is doing, so in the following battle Mylene and the other female are doing something that I might call a clothed version of open air mud wrestling. Of course the French overpower the Brits, so the overall victory is clear. The whole story is told from the viewpoint of a grown-up man who looks into his own past as a small boy - admiring Mylene and her courage in the British camp, being rescued by her from the French winners of the battle and so on. The dialogues are mostly English subtitled in French. Seeing (part of) this video on the German TV station WDR 3 finally made me search for the whole thing. 3. Ainsi Soit Je... (5:10) For a change this is more like a normal video, again of the slowly cut kind. 4. Sans Logique (6:00) This one shows some silly party by some gypsies or the like. They play a torero game where Mylene wears a 'crown' consisting of two bull horns that are actually quite sharp knifes. Of course Mylene succeeds in killing one of the toreros... 5. Allan (Live) (5:42) 6. Plus Grandir (Live) (4:50) These last two tracks might just been left out of the 'The Concert' tape, it shows typical concert scenes mixed up with some out-of-concert ones. The two tracks are not on the normal concert video, but on the double CD that is also availlable. I will do more as soon as I get the fourth tape... ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 14:37:26 +0200 From: Ulrich Grepel Subject: Nina Hagen There's been a Nina Hagen thread here recently and Michael says: > is awesome! Actually all of her early German stuff is some really > great rock (NINA HAGEN BAND, UNBEHAGEN), and well worth the listen > despite not knowing German! If you would know German, you would find out that some of the lyrics are quite - let's call it - quite - hmmm... hard... They're surely nothing for the unprepared ear of the PMRC kind. A while ago I tried to transcribe the lyrics to the Nina Hagen Band album (IMHO her best), and only after that I found out that only the Nice Price CD I have does not contain the lyrics. :-(. Well - Klaus has the lyrics, he also has mine transcription, and as soon as he finds the time he will check them. It might be interesting to translate the lyrics into the English language, and there's actually one song I have tried to translate. Of course that's quite difficult and with my far from perfect knowledge of the English language I find it impossible to keep all of the four: rhyme, meter, language^1) and contents, so I tried to concentrate on the latter two, because that seemed to be most important in a translation if anyone can listen to the original to get the former two. Now - is there any interest in the translated lyrics? The only one song that I treated this way is "Auf'm Friedhof", but I won't post it before Klaus has at least verified my German transcription... Jim writes about Lene Lovich, Diamanda Galas and Nina Hagen that LL made the path for the other two by being around in 1978 by stating that she was the only one with an unusual voice around then. Besides the fact that KaTe's first (two) album(s) is (are) from '78, Nina Hagen's first album after being expelled from East Germany also is from that year, and she was well known here in Germany then, so no need for making some path for her, at least not in Germany. Is it internationally known that NH once showed in a live TV talk show how females could masturbate? (of course that was unexpected, but live...) How's that for being provocative? (No, I haven't seen this myself, so I can't describe how far she went.) By these 'standards', Nina Hagen is pretty harmless nowadays. Uli ^1) "language" in this context means "kind of language" as in street or Oxford, not as in English or German or French or whatever. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 14:37:31 +0200 From: Ulrich Grepel Subject: Suzanne Vega Anthony says about Suzanne Vega's tour: > I would recommend that everybody should try to catch this tour, were > it not for the fact that last night's was the last show of the last > leg of the tour, so you'll have to wait till next album now (trying > very hard not to smirk here :-). Hmmm... I don't think I have to wait that long. I am looking at some piece of paper that has 'Suzanne Vega 99.9F' and the date '28.4.1993' (Euro-style date) and the place 'Aschaffenburg' on it. As a matter of fact this will be my second ever pop/rock/or-similar-kind-of-audience concert I ever go. The first one will be one week earlier and is Peter Gabriel in Frankfurt. Uli ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 14:37:19 +0200 From: Ulrich Grepel Subject: Recommended size of Happy orders Kjetil says, realizing why the 1st4 were not too pleasing at first: > I think my problem is that I got all five CD's at once. Consequently I > listened a little to each, and never got much of a relationship to the > songs. I did consider listening to them one by one, opening a new CD > each week or something, but I couldn't resist the temptation. That reminds me of my own experience. I got Warpaint (borrowed) and the Happy Sampler on the same day (from different sources, now how's that for Ectosynchrosity again?) and - after needing about 3 to 5 listens to the sampler - decided that I wanted all of the stuff. So Klaus did help me with that again and then I had the same problem. It's not possible to 'absorb' new music when you get it in too big quantities. You listen to the albums once and are - perhaps subconciously - thinking 'oh my, when is this album over that I can put on the next one'. This way it's impossible to do justice to any album. I made this experience several times now, but it was only now that I realised what was wrong. So my recommendation is: DON'T BUY MORE THAN ANY TWO ALBUMS AT ONCE - or you may not recognice the treasures you get. Think about buying the 8 CD box TWW from our beloved KaTe as the first KaTestuff at all - just due to let's say listening to (part of) the stuff somewhere else. It's too much at once and so it cannot please you. Of course with time comes cure (not THE Cure...), so not everything is lost if you don't obey this CD-buying-rule. Just try to resist (see Kjetil's quote) or - if it's too late for that - take one album after the other to absorb it completely. Consequence: If anyone asks what Happy CDs s/he should buy, NEVER EVER think of saying 'enough money? all six!' again. And it's nicer for another reason: If you get all at once, you are happy once (or not even once, see above). If you buy let's say three times two CDs you are three times happy and even happier each single time. The nicest time at Christmas/birthdays/whatever is always the time BEFORE unwrapping the presents. Uli ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)