Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #475 ecto, Number 475 Friday, 5 March 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* DANKE SCHOEN! tori likes happy!! Message from honorable hatoof On seeing Tori on the radio quick bit of weirdness Is there a vid? Re: YOWIE!!! Tori in Toronto! Tori in Chicago (& Vickie meets Richard) Chicago radio info Re: Happy Rhodes speciesism defined elsewhere... Fuzzy (Fizzy) Blue Drink ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 16:02:46 -0600 From: kennel@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Chris Kennel) Subject: DANKE SCHOEN! To everyone who sent me birthday greetings, a big DANKE SCHOEN! I'm 99.99% of the time a lurker hereabouts, but felt honored when I saw the cake, and the "Jolley Hockeysticks" especially for me!! Thanks folks, you're all real swell. :) I turned 30, so although I could wax nostalgic for my 20s, my 30's aren't too bad so far. Through a remarkable deal, my husband was given 2 Northwest Airlines vouchers for $248 RT from Chicago-->Frankfurt. Me and a friend leave on St. Patty's Day and will only be in Germany for a week. But, it's better than nothing. :) This trip is my 30th b'day present. Thanks again, all. --christine kennel (from Iowa City, but who'd go to NY for blueberry drink any day!) P.S. Steve Fagg, that song was real cute! Thanks!! :) P.P.S. Dirk, Ich hoffe Portugal war schoen und waermer als hier! :) ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 17:06:12 EST From: jessica Subject: tori likes happy!! WOW!!! Vickie that is *so* incredible!!!! Having met tori and gotten to talk to her for a bit, i can *completely* understand and beleive her sincerity!! Yay!! I'm so happy that she likes happy!! that is really really cool :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: 04 Mar 93 15:59:46 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Message from honorable hatoof Sender: bossert@vizlab.rutgers.edu Received: from nubis.rutgers.edu by iha.compuserve.com (5.65/5.930129sam) id AA19822; Thu, 4 Mar 93 13:44:12 -0500 Received: by nubis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA09437; Thu, 4 Mar 93 13:44:06 EST Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 13:43:37 EST From: Greg Bossert To: Mike Mendelson Subject: Re: eno flips In-Reply-To: Your message of 04 Mar 93 11:19:23 EST Message-Id: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmjmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ask us to compare and contrast: >I class this together with Birdsongs of the Mesozoic, which I've had >on my list of things to acquire for a few years. Are they even >comparable? assuming that the comparison is with Eno/Byrne on "my life in the bush of ghosts", i'd say no, not really. i am sure that the members of BotM have heard "mlitbog" -- it is often cited as one of the most influential albums of the last couple of decades (KaTe is one of the artists who have mentioned it as brilliant). but BotM, which was formed by members and associates of the great boston band Mission of Burma, after Roger Miller and Martin Swope started to go deaf (a lesson for all you noisy kids out there!), is much less funky, and much more prone to doing stravinsky covers... on the flip side, for all of there talent and noisy exuberance, they are closer to the wit and wiggle of Eno and Byrne than they are to the nihilistic arrogance of downtown jazznoise types like John Zorn... or to put that another way: anyone who can rock out on a cover of the rocky and bullwinkle theme is okay with me :) i recommend the recent rykodisc "greatest hits" CD as a place to start (and most likely finish) with BotM... you may also be interested in Roger Miller's Maximum Electric Piano, which sounds something like Eno covering Hendrix on piano, complete with flames and feedback... i seem to be abbreviating more and more in an effort to type less, so i will leave you with a simple f! -greg -- bossert@vizlab.rutgers.edu -- == i have never been afraid to change == Happy == the circumstances of the world == Rhodes ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 14:39:57 CST From: Subject: On seeing Tori on the radio What follows is an attempt to abstract, as they say in the academic world, Tori Amos' live appearance yesterday (3/3/93) on WKQX, Chicago. It had been listed as scheduled for 4 PM, but actually started around 4:20, the difference being made up by the station's usual diet of recordings and commercials. Finally, KQX disk jockey Steve Fisher introduced Tori to the audience in the station conference room. "Hi, Tori," he then said to her. "Hi, Steve," she answered back. "How you doin'?" "I'm fine." Fisher then noted she had her snow boots on, and that she looked prepared for Chicago weather (snow had, in fact, been predicted for that afternoon or evening). She replied that she wears them in the desert as well, that she just likes the boots. Fisher asked where she was from, originally. North Carolina, she said. He observed that she'd also spent time in England, and she confirmed that she'd spent two years there, and in addition lives in London now. Fisher continued that his wife turned him onto her CD (presumably _Little Earth quakes_) about eight months ago, and that she (Mrs. Fisher) thinks she's (Tori) fantastic. "So sing a song for her, would you?" he went on to say, adding that what impressed him most about her was that there weren't a lot of singers today that write their own songs and play piano, and congratulated her for winning th e _Rolling Stone_ poll for best female new female artist; whereon the studio audience applauded (the musical performances, but not the spoken conversations, were rebroadcast that night, and the introductory remarks at that time included the factoid that there were 10 people in the audience). "You've been around for awhile, how long you been playing the piano," he said. "27 years," she answered. "Wow, that's amazing." [At this moment I have just recalled reading about a TV personality in the 50's who tended to reply, "that' s wonderful" to just about anything his guests told him, including the datum that a guest in an iron lung would die more or less immediately if the power to said machine were interrupted. Guess one must remind me of the other :-).] Fisher then asked when her career "kind of [took] off," and asked if she wanted to talk about Y Kant Tori Read. "Sure," she said. He went on to explain that big Tori Amos fans (as he put it) know about that album compared to _Earthqua- qes_--"It's a lot different." "I had a better body then," she went on to say. "My thighs were tight." Fishe r's laughter punctuated those lines. "But you know, some things have to go, I guess, and that went, along with trying to be everybody else." Fisher charac- terized YKTR as "a lot more upbeat [than LE, presumably]." Tori went on to recall that she'd been in a band with Matt Soren, now the drummer for Guns and Roses, but that that band wasn't the one on the album. Their band had broken up because "producers got involved, and everybody wanted it to be a success; so what happens is everything fell to pieces, and nobody knew what it was." She added that she wasn't blaming anybody because "I made those decisions, and I just wasn't strong enough to say 'this is what I do, I'm a girl who plays the piano and if you don't think that's tough, well then that's OK.'" Fisher went on to fisher :-) that the success of the later album and the award proved that she was tough enough. He continued that he would now shut up, which would make the program director happy, and let her sing. She then performed "Crucify." (At the very beginning, one can hear two men talking under the song, apparently consulting on the placement of various sound equipment.) At the conclusion of the song, Tori said to Fisher, "You're not going to say something? I thought you were gonna say something." He replied, "I thought you were gonna do four songs in a row." "Oh." Fisher laughed, and went on, "Oh, you want a breather." "I have to take a sip of water." "Okay." "So tell us about your wife," Tori continued. He laughed and said "Well, she's hard at work right now, and she's a big Tori Amos fan, and what else can I say?" He explained that his wife is also a musician, a singer, to which Tori responded "Oh, that's good for you--good breath control." The audience laughed. Fisher continued, "Tori, let's talk about you; I really like that subject a lot bett- er." She counterproposed, "let's do another one." "Sure." She then sang "Leather," prefaced by the comment "this one's in honor of your wife." At the end of "Leather," she went directly into playing a few unrelated notes on the piano, and said, "I do this for hours and hours and hours in my flat, 'cause I really don't have too many friends. The piano's like, my friend, and I just sit there, and I go 'so what do you think we should eat tonight?' 'I don't know, maybe we should have spaghetti.' 'But we had spaghetti three times this week.' 'Yeah, I know.' I do this forever. Anyway, that's how I wrote this next song, I was just talking to myself, and this came up." She then performed "Silent All These Years." At the end of the latter song, there was a brief round of applause, and then Fisher, characteristically, said, "How 'bout it? She not only can sing but she can play the piano, man." He went on to comment that while it wasn't visible to the radio audience, "You squirm an awful lot. Where did that habit begin?" To which the minister's daughter replied, "You go to church four days a week, you gotta squirm somewhere." (SF laughs.) "I always, you gotta move, you know, it's like Steve Tyler moves when he sings, those guitar players, they're not standin' still. What about Anthony and the Chili Peppers, he and his little chilis movin' all over the place. You gotta move it, you know?," punctuated by Fisher's periodic laughter. "And it all comes from the pelvis, right?" he said. "Do you know, it comes, it's complete; I love this, isn't that great? We didn't pay for that or anything." "To prove we're really in Chicago and there's really a train going by," said Fisher. (I've not been able to make out any train sounds on my tape so far, but there could have been some, as the ele- vated runs right outside the building housing WKQX's studios.) "Yeah, but what part of the body does that represent, you know? That could be anything," Tori went on. "You're getting deep on me, Tori, just play," Fisher replied. She protested, "No, I'm not," but finally said "Okay, so--." At which point Fisher interjected, "Do you know that she does this rendition of 'Smells Like Teen Spirit?'" "Yeah, but I'm not playing it, Steve." "I know, but just in case yo u haven't heard it, you gotta pick up the CD. You have much more than just _Little Earthquakes_ and "Y Kant Tori Read" out there. You have a lot of EP's out there." "Ten." "Yeah, so go get em." "Ten, but most of them are in Engla nd. There're a couple here, the 'Crucify' EP is here and the "Winter" EP is here," noting that "Teen Spirit" was on the former. She went on to say that the reason she wasn't going to do "Teen Spirit" at that time was that she recorded it on a "macho" 9-foot Bosendorfer piano, which she likened to a plane apparently passing by. "I'm kind of small," she said, "and I just walk up to this 9-foot piano and say 'Hello, darling,' and you sit behin d one of these 9-foot babies and play and you feel like you are Metallica, you do, and they're massive and that's what I recorded 'Teen Spirit' on. Nothing against what I'm playing, but it's a little digital piano and 'Teen Spirit' would sound like Minnie Mouse's version at this point." She then said that she was going to do instead "one that you-all have been playing, one of my faves, because it's about my dad," whereupon she performed "Winter." At the conclusion, Fisher said "Incredible," and Tori said "So guess what's in the car waiting for me." He guessed deep dish pizza; she replied "I eat thin crust anyway--the thighs" in declaring him wrong, "but I'm cheating on the thighs with what's in the car." Turned out it was taffy apples, which she says are made in Chicago like nowhere else. She spun a yarn about how in Korea she ate raw octopus and wished for a taffy apple. At the end, he asked when she'd next be in Chicago. She said she was going to start the next album in three weeks or so; that a January, 1994 release date wa s now projected but that she planned to "put a little bug under my butt" to get it done earlier; but that Chicago would be awhile off in any case. Fisher clos ed by saying those in the audience were privileged, and his wife would be jeal- ous as hell when he got home. In the aggregate, the part I liked best about it all was her talent for witty repartee. She could do well as a monologist for Will Ackerman's new spoken-wor d label, Gang of Seven; or she and Fisher could do TV together, with the role- playing similar to that in the opening monologs of the old Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour in the early 70s. The music wasn't bad either :-). Mitch ---------------------- Happy anniversary to the FDR presidency, 60 years ago today. ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 04 Mar 93 16:59:16 CST From: kiir Subject: quick bit of weirdness the other night i had a dream where I was with a group of people visiting a federal housing development. The housing development happened to be attached to this greasy-dive of a restaurant/coffee bar whatever you want to call it. So our group went in there for lunch and our waitress introduced us to the owner. The owner was this middle aged woman with a wrinkly face and greasy brown badly graying hair. Her name was Vern.... She was the owner of the restaurant, and manager of the housing development. She was also the owner of the other building attached to this 'complex.' The other building was a home for handicapped children. This woman was amazing... she took us into the home for the children so that we could visit them. It was very disconcerting to see all these children who should be running around playing with toys etc. to have to sit in this house, which was rather dreary, with little to do except ponder over their unhappiness. Nevertheless Vern did everything in her power to bring cheer to the children. It was quite a dream, i woke up and had to ask myself if that really had happened in the past or not....i have these 'reality' dreams all the time. Anyway the Vern thing is obvious, the federal housing thing is obvious since I've been considering moving into some for people with limited incomes..'me' the poor (not) graduate student :) alas the handicapped children's home alludes me...very powerful stuff..... One thing is clear though....Vern was most definitely 'the person in my dreams' *smile* kiri **************************************************** * Kiri Hargie byhargie@vm.cc.olemiss.edu * * byhargie@umsvm * * A ni nach cluinn cluas cha ghluais cridhe * **************************************************** ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 13:10:50 +1000 From: GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@bhpmelmsm.bhp.bhpmel04.telememo.au Subject: Is there a vid? Hi all, I was just wondering this morning. Has Happy ever made a video? I mean, it seems that this is one of the best ways to get noticed in the music world and quickly promote one's product. I WANT THE WORLD TO KNOW ABOUT HER. So has she ever done a vid? Does she want to do one?? If she did then which song would be the best to do?? Just some random thoughts for you all. PS Hey Vicki! Nice Tori story. Did you see Richard there? Missy couldn't make it and was pretty pissed off. ======================================================================== Graham Dombkins GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@BHPMELMSM.BHP.bhpmel04.telememo.au ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Hello Earth!! hello Earth..." - KT "I'm out chasing nuns in the yard..." - TA Space for undecided Happy quote. - HR ======================================================================== ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 23:39:00 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: YOWIE!!! MichaelB writes: > Vickie, > > 8-) Like totally amazing beyond words! Tori sounds just > wonderful, and apparently has good taste in music :-) > > Tori is an Happy fan, now is Happy a Tori fan. This would make > everything nice and even. Don't worry about not having the story on > tape, I, for one, believe you! Thank you. Yes, Happy is a Tori fan, but the real fanatic in the family is Kevin! Happy gave him all (or, er...most) of the CD singles for Christmas. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 0:01:29 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Tori in Toronto! According to Richard, relayed via Missy, Tori will be in Toronto tomorrow (Friday) and will be on CFNY at some point during the day, maybe 2:00pm, but you should call the station to make sure. She'll be doing an in-store signing at HMV on Young Street. Again, call for details. Vickie ps, coming soon to an rdt near you, my ToriStory. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 1:11:13 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Tori in Chicago (& Vickie meets Richard) (Ectophiles saw part of this earlier, but I wasn't finished with it. I apologise for the redundant parts.) Tori Amos at Rose Records-Ashland in Chicago March 3, 1993 After waiting in line for 3 1/2 hours, I must say that it was worth *every*single*second*! I stopped and ate before going to the record store, which was a mistake, because when I got there the line was already long. She wasn't supposed to appear until 7pm, and I got there at 6:30 but I was still quite a ways back. Unfortunately I didn't have any money with me to buy a songbook. They look very nice! Tori was late, and didn't show up until at least 7:30. The line moved as fast as frozen molasses, but I didn't hear anyone complaining. The nice thing about Tori is that she doesn't treat people like assembly line fodder. Everyone is an individual to her and she spends time with each person, as if they were the only person there. I think everyone realized that and didn't complain, knowing that, at *some* point, it would be their turn. Rose Records has a nice system for in-stores in that they have a "buffer zone" for the artist. They keep people back about 10 feet and then let folks approach the artist in semi-privacy. I've been to in-stores where the next person in line is breathing down your neck and hearing every word that's said. I hate that, which is why I love Rose's way. Most of the evening Tori's music was playing, but shortly before it was my turn someone put on Led Zepplin, which pleased Tori to no end. She jumped up and down and shook her hair around and did a little dance, which was fun to see! Finally it was my turn and I had her sign a flat. I told her that I was on the computer list rdt and she said "oh great!" and asked me how to spell my name. I asked her if she had seen Richard Caldwell and she said no. I said that he was supposed to be there. Then (and here's the cool part for Ectophiles, though it might not interest many gaffians or rdt-ers) I said "I don't know if you remember, but the last time you were in town I gave you a CD by a woman named Happy Rhodes..." and before I could say anything else her eyes went wide and she yelped "OH!!" She flung out her arms and exclaimed "I *LOVE* Happy Rhodes!" then she touched my arm and asked "Do you ever talk to her?" I said yes and she said "OH! Tell Happy I *LOVE* her music!!" It was *so* genuine, I was just overjoyed! Then I said well, here's two more for you, and gave her CDs of _Equipoise_ and _Rhodes I_. I told her that Equipoise was Happy's latest and VI was her very first. Tori was genuinely pleased to get them and we discussed the fact that Happy didn't have a record contract. There really wasn't time to explain about Kevin and Aural Gratification and I just said yeah, she doesn't have a contract. She said that she would pass the word along to someone and I was a bit shocked. That's *not* why I gave Tori Happy's music and I said so. I said that I didn't want her to think that I was just trying to "use" her or anything. Honestly, I'd just hoped that she would enjoy the music. Tori said that she understood that, but that she also knew how it was to be an unknown artist. I said ok, whatever, just as long as you know that I..and she said sure and thanks. If I'd had half a brain, I would have had my recording walkman taping this exchange, because I swear, I am *not* making this up! (An aside to Ectophiles, I forgot to tell her I loved her line about "Fight for the right to have monsters" as I gave her Happy's CDs. Pooh! For anyone who's never seen Happy's album covers, she loves to paint monsters and they appear on the covers. It would have been so perfect and was actually the one thing that I *really* wanted to say to her. Tori's reaction to my mentioning Happy threw me for such a loop that I forgot all about it until hours later.) A friend of mine was there taking pictures and Tori and I posed together for one. She gave me a big hug and I walked away. I was in heaven! I had *no* idea she would react that way. It makes me feel so good because Happy and Kevin are also Tori fans. My friend taking pictures said that he had taken one right as Tori flung her arms out and exclaimed "I LOVE Happy Rhodes!" and I can't wait to see that one! I'll definitely send a copy to Happy and Kevin. As I walked away there was this fellow handing out flyers. Was it...? Yes! After all this time, I finally got to meet Richard Caldwell. We each found out that the other doesn't have green hair, red eyes, horns and fangs :-)! He was handing out flyers for the fanzine and we chatted a bit. I guess Tori did see him later, but just hadn't noticed him quietly standing off to the side. He really was in Chicago for business. I guess I thought that Missy was pulling our legs, having fun with us (sorry Missy) and that he came to Chicago specifically to see Tori. It was getting late and I had to work the next day so I said my goodbyes. There were still quite a few people in line! Richard will probably post (at least to rdt) his story when he gets back, but I heard from Missy that Tori stayed until the very last person had been taken care of, and that it was close to 1:30 before everyone finally left. I left at 10:00, so that will give you an idea of how long the line still was! A guestimate was that around 500 people showed up! She shoulda just had a concert :-). A *very* nice evening, all in all! I'm *so* glad that Tori's guy Eric is from Chicago! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Happy Rhodes-Equipoise, it's *WONDERFUL*! (imnsho) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Vickie "Fight for the right "My ears are lucky to hear vickie@pilot.njin.net to have monsters" TA these glorious songs" HR _________ "Imagination sets in, then |_ _ | _ The Happy Rhodes mailing list all the voices begin" KB |__|_ ||_| ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Searching for Happy Rhodes reviews, articles, interviews, mentions -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 1:25:46 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Chicago radio info Hi, anyone from Chicago should write these numbers down. *Please* call, and have your friends call (and hey, other Ectophiles can call too, who's gonna know it's long-distance? :-)) Happy will *not* come to Chicago (or any other city) on her "radio tour" unless she's getting airplay. I hate the thought that they'll skip right over us. I mean, Happy is more than welcome to come over here, to Gaffa Central, but that's not quite what they have in mind :-). The station that Tori played at was WKQX (Q101) which had just recently switched from Lionel Ritchie schlock to "Adult Alternative" and they need to know about Happy. They have a line which is hooked to an answering machine, and according to Charley, someone transcribes the messages every day and the memo is discussed at meetings. I've already called and requested Happy on this line, and you should too. The "suits" need to hear the name so that when they get the Hard Report Sampler, they'll know that people are interested. WKQX (Q101) (312) 527-9604 is the answering machine line. (312) 591-8300 is the DJ request line. WXRT (312) 777-1700 is the DJ request line. WCBR (The Bear) (708) 818-9227 is the CD request line. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 2:41:18 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Happy Rhodes > Hello, Hi Quenby! > Record Theater in Buffalo (where I reside at the moment) has a slot for > Happy Rhodes which contains Warpaint and Equipoise. I was wondering > if anyone out there could recommend one of those for a first listen... I think maybe no one answered because they don't want to say "get them both!" but I'm a pushy Leo, and I have no such qualms. "GET THEM BOTH!" :-) Alas, if your paycheck says no way Ho-say, then flip a coin. Or you might do the eenie-meenie-miney-moe business. Or you could stop someone passing by the bin, and ask them (sure, they might say "whatwho?" and look at you as if you'd just asked them to shine your shoes, but you'll have broadened their horizons, and once you explain your dilemma, they'll point to one of them and go home, safe and secure in the knowledge that they met this really weird guy at the record store. You'll live in posterity as a conversation piece at their parties. Still, the name Happy Rhodes will nag at their brains and one day, they'll go back to that record store and look in the bins and buy the same one they chose for you. They'll take it home and say to their loved/liked/tolerated ones and say "hey, remember that guy record store I told you about?" and they won't remember, so he/she'll have to tell the entire story all over again and they'll look at him with perplexed expressions and go "you bought what, because of who?" and he/she'll kind of mumble and say "well, I can always take it back I suppose, but we might as well listen to it" and they'll put it on and the sweet sounds of our beloved Hapster will waft out of the speakers and they'll all crowd around and ooh and ahhh and they'll all stare at the stereo system with eyes wide, much as a child stares in wonder at a Christmas tree or a $20.00 bill from grandma, and they'll fight among themselves over the CD booklet, but it will be all in good fun, because they remember how Uncle Chester and Uncle Billy got into a fight once over something really insignificant and Uncle Chester ended up stabbing uncle Billy in the calf with one of those little things you use to hold corn on the cob and it wouldn't have been so bad except that the little pinpricks got infected and Uncle Billy barely escaped with his leg intact because they almost had to amputate and Uncle Billy didn't have any medical insurance and they're still paying off the damn bill and they grumble about why couldn't Hillary have been president when Uncle Chester flew off the handle and headed for the untensil drawer so they make sure that each gets a turn with the CD booklet and then they start to fight over the telephone because they want to call all their friends and relatives and neighbors to come over and listen to this wonderous Happy Rhodes person and they draw straws to see who gets to call first and the person they call (I don't know who it was but I'm sure they're very nice) will think the caller said Happy Roads and it will confuse them to no end but eventually it will all get straightened out and the word will spread far and wide because this is an Italian Catholic family and there's a ton of 'em and they'll even call their relatives in the old country and one of the relatives will work for a radio station and she'll get get a copy, based on the very trusted recommendation of the family and she'll play Happy on the most popular radio show on the most popular radio station in the biggest city in Italy, and the word will spread, and other stations will want to play her to keep up with the cutting edge Italian radio station and the word will spread and soon other stations in other countries will want to outdo the Italian radio station so they'll play lots of different Happy tracks and soon they'll all discover that, oh my goodness, she has *how many albums?* and they'll play them all and the word will spread throughout the land, thoughout the world, throughout the universe and back in Buffalo, there you sit, still wondering...which one to buy. Get them both :-) Vickie ======================================================================== Subject: speciesism defined elsewhere... Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 7:05:39 PST From: "Gary Nichols" Anybody else see this? Timely, eh? on rec.food.veg, abulsari@aton.abo.fi (A. Bulsari) writes: >Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 06:32:37 GMT >Lines: 26 > >I found this in the The Vegan Society's Animal-free Shopper, which >is thought provoking. > >-------------------------- > >All animal life (including human) is of common descent; the species >are part of an evolutionary tree and their members share similar >characteristics - such as the ability to experience pain, fear and >hunger. Humankind practises speciesism - that is, discriminating >against animals solely because they are not of the same species. >Speciesism, like racism is irrational and perpetuated by ignorance and >subtle coercion. > >-------------------------- > >I find a parallel here with racism. Vegetarians tend to be less >racist. They are comparatively more kind and gentle, in general, in >their attitudes towards other human beings, animals and the >environment. I have no statistical data, but this is my observation. > >Abhay at Abo Akademi University > garyn.... ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 09:36:53 -0600 From: kennel@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Chris Kennel) Subject: Fuzzy (Fizzy) Blue Drink Christine from Iowa here: Does anyone else remember "Blue Sky" pop? 20 years ago, my brother and I used to beg mom to get it for us. It was a beautiful blue, like the sky blue Crayola crayon, and while I can't exactly remember the taste, I used to pretend it was blueberry. Holly Beverage made it. And this was out east, in Ohio. I've searched for it since then, but it seems to have become extinct. Has anyone else found it? Or drinks it? --christine kennel ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)