Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #176 ecto, Number 176 Tuesday, 3 March 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: whoa! deja vu! Music (how original) CD packaging this and that ..poem.. "time" Another Cavalcade of Squibs ======================================================================== From: foster@magnum.convex.com (Harry Foster) Subject: Re: whoa! deja vu! Date: Fri, 28 Feb 92 16:30:57 CST > > I have to wonder whether a bad concert could totally turn me off to an > artist I adore so much. _I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got_ has some > mediocre moments, but I still think _The Lion and the Cobra_ is beyond > superb (says he who just started listening to it again after a hiatus of > a few months; I have a tape I recorded back in early '89 that has TLatC on > one side and _Enya_ on the other. Ahhhhh) > How bizarre!!! I just had _The Lion and the Cobra_ with lunch today. Taste great and less filling, ya know. So how many other Ectophiles had a close encounter with Sinead today? -- Harry Foster foster@convex.com "Whoever named it necking was a poor judge of anatomy." -Groucho Marx ======================================================================== Date: 28-FEB-1992 22:19:12.96 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Music (how original) Hi! Great, the cat's on speed. And I'm acquiring him as of tomorrow. What's in that Happy Cat stuff, anyway?!? Funny, the first thing I thought when I heard "Into the Fire" was, Wow, Sarah's sounding like Sinead. It didn't disgust me, though- I agree with you Jeff, _The Lion and the Cobra_ is an AMAZING album. _I Don't Want..._ is, in my opinion, a huge waste of time and money. It's funny- I have Sinead and Tracy Chapman's first releases on sides of the same tape, and both of their second albums were imo awful. Weird. :) Klaus, a surprise??? OOOoooh, how long do I have to wait? :> Saw in the paper today that "the major record labels", whatever that means, have agreed to get rid of the CD longboxes and use "alternative packaging". I think that's wonderful, this decision is years overdue, but: WHY THE HELL ARE THEY EVEN BOTHERING WITH PACKAGING THE DAMN THINGS?!?!?!?!?!? Leave them in the jewel boxes and have done with it- Europe sometimes has such a clue. If they're worried about security, there are many hi-tech ways to deal with it, as well as the obvious one employed by small record shops all over Germany: leave the CDs out of the jewel boxes and behind the counter, and have them put in once you've paid for them. Sometimes I think this country prides itself on its inherent stupidity. >P The above discussion involving dub-tape combos prompts the question: what's the strangest combination you've ever put on one tape? I think there's a tie in my collection between the tape with the Primitives' _Lovely_ on side A and Andreas Vollenweider's _White Winds_ on the side B, and the one with Rainbirds' _Two Faces_ and Enigma's _MCMXC a.d._ on it. Who can beat it? (I know woj can, but I'm sure all of you can, too.... :) Vickie, you probably won't get to see this, but I'm sorry you can't make it out to Philly. I'll be sure to take pictures for you, and I'm sure others will, as well. I may be able to get out Chicago way this summer, depending on what happens- hopefully it'll work out and I'll see you then! *---------------------------------------------* | Meredith Tarr | | *** | | "Living in the gap between past and future" | | *** | | mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu | *---------------------------------------------* ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Re: Music (how original) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 92 22:42:10 EST Meredith wonders about the weirdest combo on tape. I don't consider my tape of 'The Dreaming' vs Mozart's 'Requiem' weird, but my tape of the Pixies Surfer Rosa/ Sugarcubes 'Life's too good' vs Enigma IS weird. Well I recently made a My Bloody Valentine vs beautiful Pea Green Boat tape... I tend to prefer mixed compilation tapes. They take longer to make but IMO are fun to listen to. And I get awfully weird when it comes to them... :-) Off to Houston now.... Angelos ======================================================================== From: golden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Stephen "Jokey" Golden) Subject: CD packaging Date: Sat, 29 Feb 92 12:34:45 EST Meredith asks why they are even bothering to have CD packaging after they finally decided to get rid of longboxes.... >From what I read in yesterday's New York Post, the "packaging" that they are converting to is a jewel box. The music companies - the NYP listed about 6, can't remember off hand, used the word "packaging" to refer to the jewel box, which will be shrinkwrapped. So, they really are eliminating most of the unnescessary gabage. -- -- Stephen Golden Through the darkness of futures past, golden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu the magician longs to see, --------------------------- one chance out between two worlds... FIRE, WALK WITH ME. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 02 Mar 92 13:36:16 +0000 From: Terry Partis Subject: this and that Hi folks, Got my AG newsletter today, short but very newsy and nice to know that us fans across the pond are in touch. I was jealous about you guys being able to go to the concerts, but now that I've seen the times and dates officially in the newsletter, I really do feel a long way from Albany and Philly. Still roll on Happy's greater popularity so that she can give concerts over this side. Klaus.. sorry but I will not be able to get over to the get together later in the month, but if any copies of the concerts are to hand perhaps copies can be made for me????? Vickie.. Glad to hear that you've received my tape for the SIG dupe I can't think whats happened to the other two, they must have dissapeared down that big hole in the postman's sack? I'll get another pair off to you sometime over the next week or so. At least now that you've got one, I know that I got the address correct. I'm glad that I delayed in sending for happy's earlier tapes, now that the new CD's are shortly coming off the assembly line. I certainly look forward to hearing the better quality and the extra new songs. Well gotta go for now ...everybody have fun at the concerts and BE HAPPY. Terry ======================================================================== From: Jeanne B Schreiter Subject: ..poem.. "time" Date: Tue, 3 Mar 92 11:56:57 CST *note* A good friend of mine recently tried to commit suicide, he almost succeeded. The experience has left me with a lot to think about. From all of this, I find myself writing and reading more, about what I can do, and how I feel. In essence, I feel I have changed. 3.2.92 Time Wherein time, pleasure and pain, your heart rings true your body missing a beat tenderness drawing you near life still incomplete. Without you the world a shadow in spirals of dust, moonlight tides rushed and lost, I called your name the wind replies wherein I left my mind bruised and blue each time I cried you closed your arms to me refusing to let me help. In our final passing you turned completely away yet within my mind you are to stay. -JB Schreiter ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 3 Mar 92 18:20 GMT From: Merow!! *YAWWWWWWWWWWN* *stretch..meOW!!!* hi folks..just waking up after my little wekend hibernation..i am finally listening to my #@$$%%&!# doctor and getting some rest..thus..i am feeling MUCHO better!!!! god did i miss some stuff..when and where and why did VIckie have to go??? at least she'll be back..mew. Happy Conversion News: i have a freind of mine here in Swansea REALLY interested in Happy..i loaned her the Sig and ECTO to start off with... will coincidences never cease..buttttttt..she is also an exchange student from the US..from Maine in fact...anyway, i am putting togethr a mixture of some of the great songs i have lately received..among them Mouth Music and Loreena and Tori and a few others...she(like me) is a Celticist..and she has already learned how to speak Gaelicand is in my Welsh for Beginners Class.. BTW..her name is Kate...soooo..i will report progress on that development soon!! BIG merows to Claudia and Klaus!! i can always count on them to cheer me up! even if it IS with 101 mail messages all saying the same thing and blocking up my account! =) thanks to them..i know know what 13 Ecto people look like. ..including myself and Chris and Vickie and Happy...so i am stretching it a little..so sue me...i will soon to KNOW many more i hope..thanx to the European Ecto party!! cant wait... C&K..loads of MEWS to you two for the wondrful Rainbirds tape...Tanita is fabulous also!!!! well..all i can say now is YEAHfor Martin..YEAH for Kiri..and GOOD LUCK to poor Beth..SAVE THOSE SEALS!!!!!!!! god..i am reading King's _The Stand_ (the uncut version)..thats the REAL reason for my hibernation..i have knocked down 700 pages n three days... anyway..i have this spooky feeling that the world is going to end son.. and then we will ALL be Ecto so i wont have to be sad about not having met nearly enough of you!!!! enough of the depressing thoughts.. mew to all.. Court.. ======================================================================== From: kIrI Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1992 17:00:35 EST } I just wanted to say that I love living in the coldest place in the nation } including Alaska. It's sooo pathetic. It's 65 at home (chicago) and it's } -29 w/ windchill here with a foot and a half of snow (45cm or so for you } metric types) :( At least I have Kate and Happy to console me :) } } Im beginning to love Solace more and more. Im still not too fond of } Mercy which has been mentioned "as the best song on the album." It } gives me Sinead flashbacks. As I've never heard The Lion and the Cobra } (hope I got that right) I can't say if I like it or not, though I've heard that it is better than the second album. I can't believe the concerts are just around the corner. Im so excited!! Terry, i'll be more than willing to send extra pics from the concert. I would send a tape, but I don't have any good recording equipment. Im sure someone will set up a tape reception center so those who can't make the concert won't be missing anything. Am i right? :) Court sis, leave it to you to be morbid and depressing :) hahahah p.s story=i dont think so until i finish it...I just realized how incriminating it is. argh Later all, kiri "who said Potsdam wasn't in the Arctic Circle??" -- . _ . /\__/\ hargieka@craft.camp.clarkson.edu |< | | ) | |oo| iamecto@chinet.chi.il.us | \ o__)__( "kia kaha, kia manuwanui" kAh \o ======================================================================== Date: 3 March 1992 15:00:31 CST From: Subject: Another Cavalcade of Squibs I: Old Business Last week, a day or two after I had finished my megapost (qv), I was shocked to realize I had omitted a couple of things I had intended to include. So, as a _pro forma_ in the sweet name of achieving closure... 1) Filling in the blank The full title of the play in which Rachel ("B.A.B.Y.") Sweet is curr- ently appearing in Chicago, which I couldn't remember last week (or was it the week before?), is _Theda Bara and the Frontier Rabbi_. (Why does this remind me of Gene Wilder in _The Frisco Kid_?) 2) Another all-too-free association One day last week, Kiri wondered out loud in these pages what sensations, if any, milking machines aroused in cows. I don't have the answer, nor do any Ecto readers with agricultural backgrounds, judging from the collective silence on the issue. But like all too many things that appear in these pages, it reminded me of something completely irrelevant, _viz._,: Over 20 years ago, the book _Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex_ included the factoid that at the turn of the century, in the golden age of sweatshops, it was common knowledge among women working with the old pedal-driven sewing machines that if they aligned their bodies just right while powering the tools of their trade, the vibration and/or the friction between relevant body parts could produce orgasm. I have no evidence that anything similar results from milking machines (though I have seen anec- dotal reports of orgasms among human mothers during nursing); but if it does, it certainly would lend a new dimension to the concept of "contented cows." :-) 3) A day late and a dollar short (both *10**??), but all at 15% off It was recently recommended in these pages that certain records of marginal quality be bought on sale, if possible. I was meaning to recommend that Ecto readers in the Chicago area take adventage of the storewide sale at Rose Records (which ended this past weekend), but it fell through the cracks. I did, however, manage to buy a modicum of stuff at the sale; and those who could have benefited from the tip if only they had received it in time may or may not have missed out on something. On the one hand, I managed to pick up one of Tori Amos' albums (I forget which one), and the latest British invasion compil- ation from Rhino, which includes the return of the Walker Brothers' "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" to the retail market. I even found a cutout of a classical work called Syrinx, which at least explicates the etymology of Burka's new email address. I was also able to save a few pennies on the new Cowboy Junkies and Sugarcubes albums. On the other hand, I had no luck at all finding anything by the Rainbirds, Betty, Big Hat, or others of their ilk in the Ecto canon. II: New Business 1) Blue (but not fuzzy), red, orange and green line fever and other stories Kudos to Doug for posting the opening monolog to the Kingston Trio's "MTA." Now we all have the full text in one part of these pages or another. In the sweet name of accuracy, however, I feel constrained to point out that the operator of the Boston subways was then formally known as the Metropol- itan _Transit_ authority, not "Transportation." Apart from that it looks perfect. Which brings me to an arcane point of cross-cultural linguistics: In this country, the government agency dealing with roads, mass transit, etc. is called the department of _transportation_; in most other countries, it's called _transport_. Might this have to do with the centuries ago practice of deport- ing known criminals to what are now Australia, the U.S., and other faraway places was called "Transportation?" What do our Commonwealth readers think? Personal to Doug: I don't know who Jennifer and Ted Stanley are, except that they're not regulars on Garrison Keillor's show. Do you recall what show they were on? (Thought not :-) ). Mitch Pravatiner (who may or may not be Meredith's twin separated on the astral plane. I may have to start reading _Spy_ magazine for the answer) ________________________ "If I were a millionaire what do you think I'd do? Probably spend half a million dollars on records, sit back, and listen to 'em. Then buy a radio station with the other half million so we could all listen to them. But try to buy a radio station for half a million dollars these days." --General sense of remarks by Dick Buckley on _Jazz Forum_, WBEZ Chicago, 2/16/92 "Win one, lose two, what the hell." --Charles Ebbetts Brookyn Dodgers executive and namesake of the famous ballpark ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)