Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1157 ecto, Number 1157 Tuesday, 28 June 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: two tons, etc. Rare videos Re: big collections fun with muzak Milla, Act One, Scene Three The ketchup race concept comes to email and other stories chicago tori tickets for sale HaagiNet and earthquakes spotting craniums irc woes Alf tix Re: Laurie A. old TV & Quay animation Re: Laurie A. old TV & Quay animation Boingo and you know what you're doing so don't even Re: big collections Re: spotting craniums Sarah's Youngest Fan? Re: Music/BEAUTY Re: Happy Day! Re: Laurie A. old TV & Quay animation Laurie's alter voice ======================================================================== From: Mklprc@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:51:21 EDT Subject: Re: two tons, etc. Josh writes: > An afterthought: I bet that if Senor Loaf were beginning his music > career tomorrow, he (or his record company) would probably choose > NOT to use that name and/or image. Welcome to the fit-and-trim-and- > anorexic 90's!!! :( Maybe not so much so. Recent studies have determined that the male preference for very thin women is something of a myth perpetuated by the ad industry. Cultures not exposed to American advertising (yes, there still are a few!) are shown pictures of various body weights in a range from anorexic to obese and guess what: the men prefer the slightly more hefty images to the skinny ones, but the women think that the skinniest are the best looking. Nobody likes the grossly fat, though. 8-( Remember the treatment afforded to the "fat one" in Wilson Phillips? (But "In Living Color" did a great parody of them!) That fits with the hale-and-healthy attitudes getting all the media space lately. Anorexia has gotten so much press in the last ten years that almost nobody in the Western world is unaware of it. Anyone whose weight/height ratio falls within the American Heart Association guidelines for health can fit the new "standard." Those who don't still suffer treatment as outsiders. Fat men, who used to be cut all kinds of slack, are also getting withering stares now. (Witness the attention Clinton's avoirdupois gets in the cartoons!) Layered on top of this, and making life difficult for everybody, is old-fashioned American puritianism, which is evil and destructive by any standard. Leading back to Happy's self-image, which someone else stated was low even now, I got a copy of the new 'zine, and I think she looks great. I can't see what others do, and I certainly can't see what she must be seeing. (I would like to see her tricked out in Blade Runner cyberpunk leathers, though!) Michael Pearce, cyberoldfart ======================================================================== From: Mklprc@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:51:09 EDT Subject: Rare videos WretchAwry writes: > Subject: TITP/Excellent Birds (and a bit of nostalgia) > (long list of rare videos deleted) WoW, what a collection! Some of those I have seen only once, others never. Would you consider/be able to fill a tape with copies thereof and contribute it to the taping project? I would _love_ to get those! If you want to work something out with me and other Ectoids, I can copy vhs to beta and back, but not yet vhs to vhs (soon!). Michael ======================================================================== From: Mklprc@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:51:14 EDT Subject: Re: big collections jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) writes: > Speaking of which: Can anyone recommend a source of sturdy, > attractive record shelves? I have about 26 feet of records and > about a 6 foot space to put shelves in. Is there a good, inexpensive > source of shelving that will hold the weight of records but won't look > like they came out of a warehouse? > (I figure this is the group where I'd find people with the most > experience of biiiiiiiiiig record collections.) Well, this may not fit in with your decor (especially if you have a non-musical spouse who cares more about looks than practicality), but I acquired two commercial-grade LP racks for $25 each a while back from a record store that was converting to all-CDs. I have just over a thousand LPs and this holds most of them. Remainders are stored in cardboard and metal file trays, the kind used for archiving letter-size file folders. Best source for display racks are record stores in medium to large cities; try to find one going out of business or upgrading their design. You will need to borrow a pickup truck, though. 8+) Michael Pearce ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 15:03:12 PDT From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: fun with muzak Today I had to make a couple of phone calls to outfits that put you on hold before they finally talk to you. So I spent a fair amount of time listening to muzak. I got some amusement out of hearing what seemed to be a Muzak version of Prince's "I Would Die 4 U" (just guessing at the Princely spelling here). The thought that kept running through my head was "do these people who perform this stuff KNOW what they're doing?". More agonizing was the place that had Neil Diamond's greatest hits as their hold muzak, and which had me on hold long enough to hear pieces of two or three songs. As a child of the 70's, I hope you will understand that most 70's-era music like that really annoys the hell out of me. ======================================================================== Date: 27 Jun 94 18:02:43 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Milla, Act One, Scene Three Alright, boycus, let's get this straight: Let us enumerate all the movies milla is in: 1) Return to the Blue Lagoon (which rented the other night --- a fine, fine, film, heartily recommended, really shows off our paramour's acting talent and naive naturalness :-) 2) Dazed and Confused (haven't seen yet) 3) Chaplin (haven't see either) Question: Do her clothes stay on in any of these? If not, does this explain the cover of The Divine Comedy? And, has milla ever been in a comedy? -yours,mjm ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:25:27 CDT From: It's a name that a flame never has been connected with Subject: The ketchup race concept comes to email and other stories Today, like all Mondays, I've been greeted by a weekend worth of incoming mailing list posts. What I didn't expect was that the yield for Saturday would include the essay I posted to this list last Monday, nor that what came during the front end of today would include the one I posted Friday. When the U.S. mails can actually look better than the net WRT moving things through, you know that anything is possible :-). Ironically, the delay actually improved the timeliness of the last line in my last post, to wit: >Happy Stonewall Day, if a couple days early. It has occurred to me that the sponsors of the various gay rights events held lately have missed out on a good thing by not making more of the coincidence, within the same month, of the 25th anniversary of Stonewall and the 50th anni- versary of D-Day. "Two generations of freedom fighters," or something to that effect, would have been a very effective tie-in. (Readers of these pages in Texas may realize the additional coincidence with Juneteenth, the observance of the anniversary of the delayed notification of the Emancipation Proclamation.) Saturday night, _The Midnight Special_ did a half-hour interview-with-music with Loreena McKennitt, hard on the heels of her appearance on WBEZ Friday afternoon. I routinely time-shift that show, so I have the whole thing on tape, though I haven't listened to it yet. Somebody mentioned aXcess magazine. The latest issue (or at least the one I bought the last copy of Saturday) has an interview with Tori. WRT MJM's post on Milla's movies: She was also in _Kuffs_, with Christian Slater. I think that was a comedy. Remember--only 2 1/2 weeks to get your HBP selections in to Doug. What better way to spend a rainy 4th of July weekend than throwing that stuff together? :-) Mitch (Who hasn't collected an organized cassette in years) ======================================================================== From: tmbg tmbg tmbg Subject: chicago tori tickets for sale Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 20:26:00 EDT Forwarded message: > From daemon Mon Jun 27 20:21:03 1994 > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 20:21:02 -0400 > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: host not found) > Message-Id: <199406280021.UAA25445@hobbes> > To: k93el01 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="UAA25445.772762862/hobbes" > > This is a MIME-encapsulated message > > --UAA25445.772762862/hobbes > > The original message was received at Mon, 27 Jun 1994 20:20:59 -0400 I have two chicago tori tickets for sale if anyone is interested. they are expensive, because i am going to go to the concert myself if i can't sell them (the other isn't mine; it's a friend's). row JJ mainfloor, early show. bismark theatre. email me soon if interested. elizabeth k93el01@kzoo.edu ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 21:21:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: HaagiNet and earthquakes Well, I finally received my CD ROM, so I could (and did) install NEXTSTEP on my PC. I've got it networked to my NeXTstation; the 'station is tirk and the PC is alice. Unfortunately, things aren't going very perfectly. Friggin' PCs. For some reason, NEXTSTEP doesn't really like my keyboard. But anyway. I was in San Francisco last week, and met a couple of Ectophiles (Ethan Straffin and Erik Johnson). 'Twas cool. (I also met Sarah, but I already knew her so it's a different case :-) ). [meanwhile, my PC just panicked. This is starting to upset me.] Regarding the earthquake, I felt it too. I was lying awake in bed when it hit; my only rational thought was, "what the hell do you do when you're on the 11th floor and an earthquake hits?" Luckily it wasn't too bad. I haven't bought any new CDs recently (yeah, yeah, I know; nothing to be proud about). But considering how much money I spent on this new machine and all its accoutrements (wish I had gotten a better sound card, dammit), I'm not in the position to buy pretty much anything right now. Whilst in San Francisco, Sarah and I went to "The New Haze ..." something. It was an, er, concert hall of sorts. In my trip report to work, I said "If you don't like listening to weird music in weird lighting with lots of weird people around you, this place isn't for you." (Keep in mind who my audience was...) Someone replied, "so how's that different from the TIC?" Hmm. Good question. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 18:41:22 PDT From: Neal Copperman Subject: spotting craniums While I doubt jeffy was calling for everyone to write in their favorite cranium lyrics, one immediately sprang to mind, so....... local manic band the Rugburns have a song that goes... "Thought you were brilliant you were just full of helium. YOu took me to the moon, then you dropped me on my cranium." Neal ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 18:43:27 PDT From: Neal Copperman Subject: irc woes Sorry to clog up ecto with this, but the IRC server I always use is gone gone gone :( None of the others that were thrown out in past discussions seem to do anything for me. If anyone has any suggestions on places I can telnet to for IRCing, they'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Neal ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 18:48:16 PDT From: Neal Copperman Subject: Alf tix And while I"m dumping stuff into ecto, I've got a bunch of Alison MOyet tickets to her LA show I'd like to sell. It's July 16 at Glam Slam. Don't remember what they cost, around $18. We bought a bunch a couple days before the San Diego show was announced, so I'd rather see her without the drive. Hope to maybe sell them at the Kate movie on Saturday. ... and Toni Childs is coming to town!!!! The new disc is amazing. Zap Mama is all over it (in case you needed any further incentive to buy it Vickie) as well as guests by Peter Gabriel, some of his standard bandmates, and Robert Fripp. Neal ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 19:09:35 PDT From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Laurie A. old TV & Quay animation Alex arg'ed: >>I dug out my only tape of a 1987 _Alive from off Center_, taped >>because Laurie Anderson was on it. She wrote, directed, stared, and >>co-stared ;) in the introductory skit. She talks to her shorter, >>stretched-head, deep-voiced alter-ego about Bruno Schulz. They showed >>the related _Street of Crocodiles_ animation by the Quay brothers. I >>imagine the Quay brothers are also responsible for such videos as >>Tool's "Prison Sex". If not it's an obvious style steal. If you liked Street of Crocodiles, there are lots of other interesting Brothers Quay animated shorts. Of course, I have no idea where to find them. THey seem to pop up occasionally in the art houses. Street is my favorite, and I admit that the others can be a tad boring, but they always seem kind of intriguing to me. If you step a little further back, they were inspired by Czeck animator Jan Svankmajer (sp?), who also sometimes shows up with some pretty curious shorts, and a documentary on his inspiration, an Italian artist who's name escapes me, though I have a book at home. He did this crazy stuff like portraits of people composed entirely of fruit. If anyone cares, I'll look it up. Laurie Anderson's alter-ego drives me up the wall!!!! Neal ======================================================================== From: Stuart Myerburg Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 22:43:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Laurie A. old TV & Quay animation Neal said: > If you liked Street of Crocodiles, there are lots of other interesting > Brothers Quay animated shorts. Of course, I have no idea where to find > them. THey seem to pop up occasionally in the art houses. Street is > my favorite, and I admit that the others can be a tad boring, but they > always seem kind of intriguing to me. Supposedly there is a new video compilation of all of their shorts, including music videos they've done. About a month ago, I saw a lot of rave reviews of it, but I have yet to see the video show up anywhere. Has anyone seen this? > Laurie Anderson's alter-ego drives me up the wall!!!! Yeah, the alter-ego thing is *really* annoying. Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu "I'm such a Viking- I'm Sven with an avocado sandwich." - Tori Amos __________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 02:36:00 UTC Subject: Boingo Well, I like it. Sounds pretty fun to me. Long songs don't bother me one whit and neither does the overall heavier guitar sound that this version of the band is showing. I think Elfman's melodies are as strong as ever. +########################################################################+ +###+ Paul Cohen, Philadelphia, PA +###+ +########################################################################+ +###+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +###+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +###+ +###+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +###+ PMCOHEN@delphi.com +###+ +########################################################################+ ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:15:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: and you know what you're doing so don't even Hi! Eric West, thank you for posting that bit by Anais Nin. It's beautiful. I'll have to reread _House of Incest_ to get it in its context... Alex reported: >I dug out my only tape of a 1987 _Alive from off Center_, taped >because Laurie Anderson was on it. She wrote, directed, stared, and >co-stared ;) in the introductory skit. She talks to her shorter, >stretched-head, deep-voiced alter-ego about Bruno Schulz. They showed >the related _Street of Crocodiles_ animation by the Quay brothers. I >imagine the Quay brothers are also responsible for such videos as >Tool's "Prison Sex". If not it's an obvious style steal. Y'know, I really like that Tool video. The song isn't that bad, either - am I the only one who thought it was a Tales From The Darkside-esque Chris DeBurgh the first time they heard it? And Alex dear, if you ever get that second VCR, I think I know what else I'd like you to do for me... O:> Laura related: >I was at the show too on Saturday (although I didn't find Meredith via her >ecto t-shirt). :( There were a lot of people there, though. I was sorta in front of the sound board and slightly to the left. Not that it matters now... >Sarah - hmmm, I still don't get it. She has a really wonderful voice but >her music just doesn't grab me. Maybe Meredith can tell me how different >(or not) this performance was from her usual live performance... Totally, utterly, and completely different, yet for me every bit as powerful and engaging. The usual performance features a different bassist and two electric guitarists as well as the group we saw the other day, and Sarah plays electric and acoustic guitar, as well as keyboards for some songs (I'm sure we would have seen some of those if we'd gotten a full set). Everything is quite choreographed, with some of the best stage lighting I've seen at a show of that kind. "Hold On" positively *rocks* (Sarah should be a rock chick... nah, not really ;), "Wait" is a religious experience even more intense than on the record, and "Fear" is really difficult to describe, but take my word for it, it's really good. :> You obviously have some sort of an impairment. Have you seen anyone about this problem? Chuck advertised: >Moon Seven Times - 7=49 > Removed from the wrapper 74 minutes ago (playing time 73 min's). I would > be most grateful to have anyone remove it from my life post haste. Was > purchased for $13.95, please make an offer. Good god, man, give it a chance! Sheesh... mjm palindromed: >At times OTR sounded like Cowboy Junkies, U2, The Sundays, >and Innocence Mission. That gives you a good range of their material. Bingo. Right on the money... I do, however, think that _Til We Have Faces_ sounds more like Innocence Mission than IM does. _Patience_ has its moments, but it seems to me that _TWHF_ is the album IM *should* have made instead of _Umbrella_... >As usual Lollapalooza is silly? I mean, I'd love to see Nick Cave, >but why pay $50 to wade thru hours of crap just for half an hour of >Nick? What a waste. How about Woodstock '94? $135 a pop, and you must buy in blocks of 4. Not to mention get there. Gack. >BTW, can someone send me a list of the CD/Record stores most >worthy of checking out in the Boston area? I know you guys have this >info somewhere.... Thanks. Newbury Comics (I know the one in Harvard Square best, but I walked by the original one on Newbury St. AND DIDN'T GO IN. I'm so proud of myself!) Second Coming -- can't remember where it is, though. Angelos? (mjm, you might want to buzz footah at bossert@remus.rutgers.edu and see if he reads his mail before you leave for Boston -- he knows where all the good places to go are! :) Steve moaned: >Today I had to make a couple of phone calls to outfits that put >you on hold before they finally talk to you. So I spent a fair >amount of time listening to muzak. I got some amusement out of >hearing what seemed to be a Muzak version of Prince's "I Would >Die 4 U" (just guessing at the Princely spelling here). The >thought that kept running through my head was "do these people >who perform this stuff KNOW what they're doing?". Unless the person who told me this was totally taking me for a ride, as I understand it most Muzak emanates from Musak, Inc. in Seattle, which produces the liquid tofutti heard on hold and in elevators and supermarkets across the globe. Apparently many Seattle musicians who have now made it big are ashamed to admit that they worked for Musak, Inc. to pay the rent before they made it big, either as administrative assistant-types or actual musicians. The image of wossname from Soundgarden mellowing out to the soft hits version of "Like A Virgin" is almost too frightening to handle. Mitch aliased: >From: It's a name that a flame never has been connected with For shame, Mr. Pravatiner! "It's a name WITH WHICH a flame has never been connected"!!! After all the grammatical deconstruction that's been going on in these pages lately, you shouldn't be making those mistakes... ;> >It has occurred to me that the sponsors of the various gay rights events held >lately have missed out on a good thing by not making more of the coincidence, >within the same month, of the 25th anniversary of Stonewall and the 50th anni- >versary of D-Day. "Two generations of freedom fighters," or something to that >effect, would have been a very effective tie-in. (Readers of these pages in >Texas may realize the additional coincidence with Juneteenth, the observance of >the anniversary of the delayed notification of the Emancipation Proclamation.) That's an excellent point... except I don't think the D-Day freedom fighters would have been too happy if such a comparison had been made... Meredith, who needs to label the Tori Amos compilation tape she just made for her mother, since she was Commanded to do so yesterday evening and didn't get to it in time to mail it out today meth@delphi.com P.S. Echoes had a profile of Zap Mama last night, followed shortly thereafter by a spin of Bel Canto's "Die Geschichte einer Mutter". Niiiice! :) ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 02:37:00 UTC Subject: Re: big collections > Speaking of which: Can anyone recommend a source of sturdy, > attractive record shelves? I have about 26 feet of records and > about a 6 foot space to put shelves in. Is there a good, inexpensive > source of shelving that will hold the weight of records but won't look > like they came out of a warehouse? I use good ol' peachcrates for my albums, originally from the old Peaches record chain and more recently from other companies that make such products and are commonly available at record chains. They stack nicely. For my CDs, I use the Billy model bookshelves from IKEA. +########################################################################+ +###+ Paul Cohen, Philadelphia, PA +###+ +########################################################################+ +###+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +###+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +###+ +###+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +###+ PMCOHEN@delphi.com +###+ +########################################################################+ ======================================================================== Subject: Re: spotting craniums Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 23:21:06 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Neal sez: >While I doubt jeffy was calling for everyone to write in their favorite >cranium lyrics, one immediately sprang to mind, so....... > >local manic band the Rugburns have a song that goes... > >"Thought you were brilliant >you were just full of helium. >YOu took me to the moon, >then you dropped me on my cranium." Which in turn calls to mind, the wonderful Carly Simon song "Didn't I?" (From _Have You Seen Me Lately?_) which contains the line, "Sorry that your mother dropped you on your head..." (this album also contains the lovely "Fisherman's Song", which appeared on...hmmm...I believe it was the very first HGP) Jeff ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:19:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Sarah's Youngest Fan? Hi! I forgot to tell a really cute story about something I witnessed at the Hatch Shell in Boston on Saturday. There was a family sitting behind me consisting of two middle-aged hippie types and their two kids, a boy of about 5 and a girl who couldn't have been more than 3. They were having a blast all afternoon, waiting out the delay with a pail of bubble-stuff and those funky rod-and-rope dealies that make the mondo huge bubbles. Since there was a nice breeze the bubbles traveled far, and caused more than a few people to put up their umbrellas. :) Occasionally the little girl would ask, "Mommy, when are Sarah and Milla gonna be here?" When the show finally started she jumped up and down and sang, "Sarah and Milla! I love Sarah and Milla!" She clearly loved Sarah more, though, since when Sarah finally took the stage she *really* went nuts. "Sarah! Sarah! Sarah!" :> The kid and her brother started to get a bit rambunctious after "Path Of Thorns" had ended, but when "Ice Cream" started up all their mother had to say was, "Hey listen, Sarah's singing a song about ice cream!" and even big brother was in love after that. It was clear that the family was there because the parents were fans, but I began to wonder by the end if they really weren't just there for the sake of the little girl. She was more into it than I was! :> I hope this somehow gets back to Sarah... it was really cute. :) Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 23:29:41 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Music/BEAUTY Hi Eric, welcome to Ecto! :) I know there have been a lots of new Ectofolks recently. Hi to you all! If anyone needs a Happy/Ecto FAQ, let me know and I can mail one to you. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 23:46:08 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Happy Day! > If anyone in the Chicago area is looking for Happy's albums, the Tower > Records store in Bloomingdale (west suburb) carries them...that is when > they get restocked! We bought Rhodes I and II, Warpaint, and Ecto today! > We have everything but Rearmament now! Couple of questions: Does Happy > ever tour? And has she ever done a video? I really adore her music, and > find it very emotionally meaningful to me! If I would write to Happy, is > the address to AG, or to her management appropriate? Thanks! Lynne > > ---- > Lynne Evans > lynne@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us > The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198) Hi Lynne, welcome to Ecto! Do you live in Chicago or were you just visiting? We're in Chicago too. I'm glad to know that the burb Tower carries Happy (the one on Clark does too) and glad that you got so many at one time :). Let us know what you think of them. how did you find out about Happy? I'm going to send you the FAQ (in a separate letter) which has the address where you can write Happy. The PO Box address will get your letter *directly* to Happy, and she reads all the letters that come in. If you send one of your CD booklets (along with stamped, self-addressed envelope for the return trip) she'll sign it for you and send it back. AG isn't some nameless, faceless record company. It's Happy and Kevin, in their home. Believe me, she'll get it. :) Happy's never done an actual tour, but she has played various dates. The "biggest" so far was in Philadelphia in 1992. She sold out an 800 seat theater! Lots of us were there, and some of us came from far away to be there :). (yeah, it was worth it!). Happy doesn't have a videos, and no live performances are available (on video, that is) but she has 2 shows coming up, and it's possible that we can get the video on one of them. Happy's playing a venue called Joyous Lake in Woodstock, NY on Thursday August 11, and the Woodstock II festival the next night, Friday August 12. The Woodstock festival will be shown on Pay-Per-View, and we *hope* that Happy's set will be shown. When the time gets nearer, we'll have to coordinate with any Ectophiles who have access to PPV. I hopehopehope that they don't pass over Happy. Maybe we ought to write letters :), though I wouldn't know who to send them to. Happy's music and voice and lyrics also strike a deep chord in my heart and soul, so I know exactly what you mean. She's been an important part of my life for many years, and it's just wonderful for me whenever I hear others sing her praises. Pour forth, anytime you want :) Vickie (the besotted) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 23:49:30 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Laurie A. old TV & Quay animation Stuart made my day: > Neal said: > > If you liked Street of Crocodiles, there are lots of other interesting > > Brothers Quay animated shorts. Of course, I have no idea where to find > > them. THey seem to pop up occasionally in the art houses. Street is > > my favorite, and I admit that the others can be a tad boring, but they > > always seem kind of intriguing to me. > > Supposedly there is a new video compilation of all of their shorts, *This* Ectophile would dearly love to see the shorts of something called Street of Crocodiles. :) Vickie (the naughty) ps, is this dependant upon American slang? :) ======================================================================== From: snpf@lucid.com (Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson) Subject: Laurie's alter voice Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 21:33:17 -0700 (PDT) *Mwhahahahaaha* I like that pun: Laurie's Altar Voice. I really like it. It doesn't bother me at all. She said that when she was in Brasil, some people were asking why she uses it. The reason was a power thing...people unconsciously (or not) tend to listen to deeper voices. Laurie said, "You guess why." Sorry, I don't remember exactly what she said. But you get the idea. There was a study or something where they found that people paid more attention to deeper voices. (Think of this...the lower the register, relatively, the sexier the voice? Sometimes.) Also, womyn have a harder time listening to the very low registers, while men have a hard time listening to higher registers. That the listening range is physiologically different. I don't know if this is particularly true or not, but there are two things from my own experience. It is difficult for me to *hear* what someone is saying if their voice is really deep--I have to parse more. Listening to someone with my own vocal range is like listening to my brain talk to me. (*wink*) The other thing is that the very low register, particularly male, used to scare me. This could have something to do with my father, though. *MMMM....gimme.....food for thought* -seanympf ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)