Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1155 ecto, Number 1155 Monday, 27 June 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Nostalgia et al Re: cantonese Re: WXPN to LA Interesting ;) Latest haul spotted at Ollsson's tonight Re: go norway milla Re: go norway milla Shaken not stirred Re: go norway milla October Project@Bottom Line,NYC Them heavy people October Project in NYC (none) HEY! TIM BREITKRUETZ! Music/BEAUTY Re: Gentle Giant and strange pairings An Infamous Name from EctoHistory... Sarah and Milla In Boston Thank You Mask Man solving secrets and seeing bots ======================================================================== From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Nostalgia et al Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 16:22:27 -0700 (PDT) > Vickie posts a long nostalgic list of videos which prompts these > nostalgic thoughts: > > > Lenny Bruce "Thank You Mask Man" (from Night Flight) > I *love* this! A friend of mine told me about it so we tracked down a Lenny Bruce videotape that had it and dubbed this. "Gimme the Horse too.." "Whach'ou want that horse for, Masked Man?" "For the 'act'..."" What a riot.... Joe querried: > Speaking of which: Can anyone recommend a source of sturdy, > attractive record shelves? I have about 26 feet of records and about a > 6 foot space to put shelves in. Is there a good, inexpensive source > of shelving that will hold the weight of records but won't look like > they came out of a warehouse? Well, Joe, I don't know if they do mail order, but you could try the Bookcase Store off of Guadalupe back in Austin. They do custom orders and might be able to come up with an attractive solution. > > (I figure this is the group where I'd find people with the most > experience of biiiiiiiiiig record collections.) > Sorry, but mine still fit in half a dozen milk crates. br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== From: Mklprc@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 20:20:31 EDT Subject: Re: cantonese In ecto #1143 ezust@iro.umontreal.ca says, =====quoting===== Subject: tori sings cantonese Some of you may remember that I had in my possession a version of Tori's "silent all these years" sung in cantonese, by a famous Hong Kong pop singer named Faye Wong. Anyway, I sampled it at 12kHz, stereo, and saved it to a file. Compressed, it's 3.5mb. Uncompresed, it's about 6mb. I would like to make it available to the general public. The file format is .VOC, but if someone convinces me that this format is non-standard and I shoudl convert it to another specific format, I will. The thing is, I need an ftp site to upload this file to. If anyone can suggest one, I'll send it. ====end quote===== I, for one, will try to convince you. I need either System 7 sound, .SND, or .IFF format, sampled at 11 or 22kHz (how did you come up with 12?) The IFF sound format is compatible with PC Blaster cards; the other two are Mac. IFF is the only one compatible with both. How about putting it on ns1.rutgers.edu? Vickie should be able to verify how, and if, it can go there. Michael Pearce ======================================================================== From: Mklprc@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 23:17:56 EDT Subject: Re: WXPN to LA Robert Lovejoy writes: =====quoted===== In other words, you Anglenos are going to get a radio station that will be very much like our own beloved WXPN, doubtless playing lots of Happy as well as hostesses of ectofodder! Kim Alexander is stepping in as acting PD for WXPN, so we shall persevere. ====end quote==== Some people have all the luck. We in radio-deprived Portland have yet to hear Happy on any commercial station (I doubt even KBOO has played her--haven't heard, anyway) because all of our stations are bland and boring, frightened and unimaginative. One would think that alone would motivate _someone_ to buy one of these glue horses and apply a little diversity, interesting, intelligent music and see what happens. After all, if you are at the bottom of the charts, what is there to lose? A lot, according to the people who participate on Fidonet's _Broadcast_ echo, read by many industry people (but few owners). The economics of radio universally mean that the bland will lead the bland and the horrible truth of radio demographics prove that the mass audience is intrinsically bland, no matter how many k00l people turn out for concerts by Sarah, Tori, NIN, etc. Only the biggest cities have a large enough alternative community to impress the advertisers, who pay the power bills. Now, if the Net can just get enough bandwidth for realtime, worldwide on-demand audio, we can kiss radio goodbye forever. mp ======================================================================== From: kmorrey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kathleen Morrey) Subject: Interesting ;) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 22:25:45 -0500 (CDT) ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Latest haul Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 23:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Well, I'm back from my latest inexcusable CD binge in Philadelphia. At least, as usual, all but one item was used. I found: D'Cuckoo: Umoja. The guy at the store asked me what it sounded like, since I grabbed it so avidly. Actually, I haven't a clue yet, though I know I heard a track on an H[GB]P tape. Montana Wildaxe. A five song self-produced CD. The band's from here in WIlmington and plays around here a lot but I know nothing else about them. What the hell, it was $1.50... Wendy James: London's Brilliant (single). A Costello tune and two others. I know little about her, other than that a friend of mine in Austin disappeared for several weeks, and apparently had latched on to her tour as a roadie or something. I have yet to read a favorable review of her, but at 50 cents it was worth a shot. Alan Parsons: Turn It Up (single). Again 50 cents. I don;t know much about it, but at least I can be sure it's produced well. Boingo: Boingo. Should be megacool. Salt'n'Pepa: Very Necessary. My token avant-garde disc. B-) Jane Siberry: Temple (single). My sole non-used disc. But with half an hour of Jane for $6, how could I go wrong? Also, I picked up the latest issue of CMJ, which has a CD in it with tracks by Boingo (the single version of "Hey"), Youssou N'Dour with Neneh Cherry, Sid Barrett, Nick Cave, and others. A real steal with the magazine included. BTW: I saw a CD single of many many mixes of the Youssou/Neneh song, for those of you who can't get enough. Oh yeah, I also got a used tape of the Internet Talk Radio "Geek of the Week" episode on "Security and Networks", featuring Jeff Schiller, mastermind of the MIT PGP release. Never though I'd find that. Should be a source of many mind-boggling samples. And now to stare at my CD player and decide which of these to listen to first.... ======================================================================== Subject: spotted at Ollsson's tonight Date: Sun, 26 Jun 94 00:31:57 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Well, I didn't find everything I had at least in mind when I first walked into Ollsson's, but I'm now listening to _The Raven_ by Rebecca Pidgeon. In a word, _lovely_. I've not had a chance to listen to much of it yet, but the title track is probably worth the price of the disc. It's got some weird sort of British Isles, yet not Celtic, feel to it (the title track, that is). Sounds nothing like my one Ruby Blue album, _Down from Above_, but her voice and phrasing verge on unmistakable (for the ultimate in unmistakable phrasing (what*ever* the voice sounds like), I refer you to Laurie Anderson... ;-). The disc, on Chesky Records (Checky JD115) is proudly proclaimed to be of audiophile quality, with 128 times oversampling ("High Resolution Technology"!). Anyone out there want to explain exactly why this matters to me? Anyway, _The Raven_ is definitely ecto fodder. (Warning to Vickie: Pidgeon makes ample use of the word "baby". I know you find it inexcusable in anyone but Happy's lyrics (and still questionable there). I still suggest you give this one a listen and see if any brain cells jump off your cranial ledge) (Tangent: I heard Frank Black's marvelous "Headache" on the radio the other day, and noticed his use of the word cranium. I thought to myself, "What a neat word, and so rare in lyrics. Yet somehow it seems so fitting for Frank to use it." A quick ponder later, and I realized that the only other song I could think of containing the word was, of course, by Happy.) Anyway. Whilst searching through the discs, I found two, Two, TWO discs by Magnetic Fields! I don't know that both are by the Magnetic Fields a number of us know and love so well. One was called _Holiday_ and dropped into the new arrivals section. The other was definitely by the Magnetic Fields (or at least what's his name) of _The Wayward Bus_...I recognized the title "Crowd of Drifters" on it. I'm not sure what it was called, but I think it had something to do with the center line on a highway. The cover was black with a dashed yellow line down the center (don't recall if it was a drawing or an actual photo of a street at night). Anyone know anything about either of these? I assume that the singer from _The Wayward Bus_ is not back, after that story I read about her running away from her husband, the knife maker and worrying that he would track her down. Or something like that. Anyway. (strangely, my first exposure to Magnetic Fields were a couple of tracks that Beth included on a tape for me, along with Ruby Blue!) Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Everything is still with a fear of never coming out | |Suffering Bad Grammar| Never following through / Never ever finishing | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | What we wanted to do." -- Melissa Ferrick | ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 18:32:53 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: go norway milla Meredith said: > Hey Anthony, good luck with your producing career! You wouldn't by any chance > have Kate Bush's number, would you? She's sorely in need of some fresh > outside influence... ;> :-) Well, I checked my calendar, and I'm available, so the ball's in Kate's court now. :-) We mixed the four songs and one (strange) "dance mix" on Thursday, and I'm still recovering from the 12 hour plus experience of staring at the wall trying to visualise a soundstage. I'm really pleased with the way the tracks have come out, and once they're mastered I'll start sending some tapes out. At the moment I have DAT tapes invading my room, because yes, I'm the lucky person who also gets to be quality control person - that is, make sure that the right versions from the right tapes end up being mastered, and in the right order, and... :) The CD should be out in August. Don't worry, I'll let you all know! :-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 18:32:53 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: go norway milla Meredith said: > Hey Anthony, good luck with your producing career! You wouldn't by any chance > have Kate Bush's number, would you? She's sorely in need of some fresh > outside influence... ;> :-) Well, I checked my calendar, and I'm available, so the ball's in Kate's court now. :-) We mixed the four songs and one (strange) "dance mix" on Thursday, and I'm still recovering from the 12 hour plus experience of staring at the wall trying to visualise a soundstage. I'm really pleased with the way the tracks have come out, and once they're mastered I'll start sending some tapes out. At the moment I have DAT tapes invading my room, because yes, I'm the lucky person who also gets to be quality control person - that is, make sure that the right versions from the right tapes end up being mastered, and in the right order, and... :) The CD should be out in August. Don't worry, I'll let you all know! :-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 26 Jun 94 13:50:48 PDT From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Shaken not stirred Hi, Well, I have now experienced my first Bay Area earthquakes. They shook me a bit, but not as much as the second consecutive humiliation of the greek soccer team at the world cup... At least the islands I will be visiting in the next weeks won't suck. :-( Maybe Happy should re-title her album to shaking the colossus, to commemorate the events. :-) Angelos (who has turned to a lurker all of a sudden, and doesn't know why, certainly not because of lack of interesting threads) PS. GO NIGERIA! ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 18:32:53 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: go norway milla Meredith said: > Hey Anthony, good luck with your producing career! You wouldn't by any chance > have Kate Bush's number, would you? She's sorely in need of some fresh > outside influence... ;> :-) Well, I checked my calendar, and I'm available, so the ball's in Kate's court now. :-) We mixed the four songs and one (strange) "dance mix" on Thursday, and I'm still recovering from the 12 hour plus experience of staring at the wall trying to visualise a soundstage. I'm really pleased with the way the tracks have come out, and once they're mastered I'll start sending some tapes out. At the moment I have DAT tapes invading my room, because yes, I'm the lucky person who also gets to be quality control person - that is, make sure that the right versions from the right tapes end up being mastered, and in the right order, and... :) The CD should be out in August. Don't worry, I'll let you all know! :-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 09:28:50 -0400 (EDT) From: WAYNEPALMER@delphi.com Subject: October Project@Bottom Line,NYC For anyone in the New York City area who are fans of October Project and aren't going to be able to get to the free Phila. weekend concert that they are a part of, I just noticed in the New York Times that they will be at the Bottom Line(15 W 4th St)on July 12. Tickets are $15 & the phone number is 212-228-6300. *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=* | Wayne A. Palmer *Ye Olde Florence Train Station* waynepalmer.delphi.com | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WXPN-Music That Needs to be Heard <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< | *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=* ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:30:19 MET DST From: Albert Philipsen Subject: Them heavy people Josh writes: >And while I'm at it, a little clarification on the Meat Loaf (ugh) >controversy. The thing that makes Mr. Loaf unique isn't that he's heavy set >or "unattractive" (subjectivity acknowledged). So, is it *really* true that "heavy" people are unattractive? Or is this just a myth, an idea spreading from mind to mind (these kind of ideas are called "memes", and they spread like a virus from brain to brain)? This particular meme is probably so strong because it is supported by another meme, namely the idea that it is unhealthy to be "heavy". I wonder if there are men who deep down desire a "big" woman, but are afraid to admit it because it isn't socially acceptable. Maybe they are so brainwashed that they don't really know anymore what they desire. >It's that he is (was?) sold >to the mainstream by *accentuating* the very qualities that our society tries >to cover up when it comes to women. Just look at his name! I think the Meatloaf example shows that it is possible to break through the myth, by making it acceptable for women to admit that they think he looks cute. Albert ======================================================================== From: "Ralph A. Pincus" Subject: October Project in NYC Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 11:23:22 -0400 (EDT) ======================================================================== October Project is playing The Bottom Line in NYC on Tuesday, July 12th. Tickets are $15.00 For info, call The Bottom Line at 212-228-6300. Anybody out there know where else they're playing? Alas, I can't make it to NYC for this show. :( --Josh ======================================================================== Subject: HEY! TIM BREITKRUETZ! Date: Sun, 26 Jun 94 09:20:45 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Sorry to send this to the list, but I seem to have misplaced Tim's e-mail address in Iceland. Tim, if you're still out there and reading e-mail, please get in touch with me. Neither Beth nor I can meet you at the airport on Tuesday. She still has no e-mail and asked me to try to get in touch... Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Everything is still with a fear of never coming out | |Suffering Bad Grammar| Never following through / Never ever finishing | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | What we wanted to do." -- Melissa Ferrick | ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 16:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Lee West Subject: Music/BEAUTY "I heard the lutes which were brought from Arabia and felt in my breasts the currents of liquid fire which run through the rooms of the Alhambra and refresh me from the too clear waters. "The too clear pain of love divided, love divided... "I was in a ship of sapphire sailing on seas of coral. And standing at the prow singing. My singing swelled the sails and ripped them, where they had been ripped the edge was burnt and the clouds too were ripped to tatters by my voice." -Anais Nin from ' House of Incest' - Onica nijoh@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81) ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 07:39:48 +0100 From: Gray Abbott Subject: Re: Gentle Giant and strange pairings Maybe strange pairings were a pattern for GG. The first time I saw them in Boston, they followed the James Cotton Blues Band - not a bad band, but definitely a different style from GG. It was a little embarassing. Some of the GG fans actually booed James Cotton and tried to get them to leave. When they finally did leave, a good chunk of the audience, who came just to hear James Cotton, also left. The people who stayed had an unforgetable experience! Gray Abbott ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 20:28:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: An Infamous Name from EctoHistory... Howdy-do, Whilst patiently perusing Pulse magazine for July, I came across a new release sure to be of interest to ecto: one Eliza Gilkyson has released "Legends of Rainmaker" on Gold Castle/City Hall #71323. If any of you hear this, please feel free to post a review. For those new to the list: Shortly after the release of Equipoise, Happy had an offer from Andreas Vollenweider (sp?) to tour with him. She declined, and Eliza got that particular gig. Reviews at the time were generally positive. Most of us felt at the time that Happy did the right thing (she promoted EQP and did the Radio Tour instead). Anyhoo, here's an album from Eliza, if anyone out there is interested. Thanks for the bandwidth, now back to your original mailing list, which is already in progress. Bob the obvious ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 15:40:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Sarah and Milla In Boston Hi! Well, Sarah was in Boston yesterday with Milla opening, for free. I drove up from New Haven to attend the show, and while musically the day was a near- total bust, it was still a great day for me personally, so I (unlike the other 1,500 or so people who were there) really didn't mind much. The day dawned in a pea-soup fog, and the weather forecast called for a pretty good chance of rain. WFNX, who sponsored the event had said it would go on rain or shine, so I brought my umbrella (to ensure that it wouldn't rain :) and headed up through the fog to Boston. I got there in plenty of time (thanks, Steve@garopa! It was nice to meet you :), and settled in on the lawn in front of the Hatch Shell to wait for Milla to come on at 2:00. At 2:15 some dude from FNX appeared and said that because of the fog there had been travel problems, so things would be starting a little bit late. Unfortunately no one was prepared for just *how* late -- Milla finally got on stage at 4:15. It seems that because of the fog her plane was massively delayed at Logan Airport, and Sarah's entourage had been delayed too, though not nearly so much since they were sound checking at 2:00. Milla was charming and funny, and I really wish she'd been on stage longer. She played: Charlie Falling Don't Fade Away You Did It All Before Before the last song she said, "since you guys are really here to see Sarah anyway, I'm going to get the hell off the stage after this next song." When some people cheered she said, "Oh well then, if you're going to be that way, then I'll do TWO more songs. Just to fuck with your minds." She did only one more, though, and that was it. I was really surprised she didn't try to get "Gentleman Who Fell" in there, but hey. Her voice was quite hoarse and she totally lost it in the upper registers, so I don't think she could have handled that song to begin with. She was backed by a keyboardist/mandolinist/backing vocalist, a guy playing bass, a guy playing guitar, and a guy playing some zither-lap harp-like instrument that I'm sure is named in the liner notes for the album, but I'm too lazy to go and look. :) On "Don't Fade Away" she played Sarah's guitar, and seemed in awe of it. Before she started, she said, "This is my one guitar song. This is strange, since it's not my guitar and mine doesn't have neat pickups like this. Wow!" I think she made a favorable impression on the crowd. FNX was handing out free cassingles for "Gentleman Who Fell", and they were going pretty fast. I'm definitely looking forward to a chance to see her again under better circumstances. (Anybody know if there is a list of Milla dates floating around out there anywhere? I saw an ad in the Boston Phoenix for a club date in July, but all I've heard about.) Then at about 4:40, the "soft combo" of Sarah, Ash, Dave Kershaw, and Camille appeared on stage. Ash, of course, played drums, Kershaw doubled on bass and keyboards, and Sarah played guitar for every song: Path of Thorns (Terms) Ice Cream Good Enough Hold On Elsewhere (!!! :> :> :> :> :> !!!) And that was it. There was a string ensemble concert at the Hatch Shell later on that evening, so they had to be off the stage by 5:00. :P :P :P People were pretty pissed off, but I didn't mind because I'll be seeing the same group in Central Park on 7/9 (weather permitting), and have tickets to see the full-blown show in Red Bank on 7/10. Besides, I also ran into three friends from college whom I haven't seen since graduation and another person I know totally randomly, and got a chance to have dinner with another college friend whom I haven't heard from or seen in 2 years, so it was far from a wasted trip. I feel sorry for everyone else there, though. I mean, it never rained (it didn't really sun either, but I got totally fried anyway, Sarah's admonishments about hoping we all had our sunscreen on notwithstanding :), and people were picnicking and having a pretty good time, but there were a *lot* of people there and Sarah and Milla really missed a chance to get some good exposure. Sarah was quite relaxed and chatty, introducing each song and apologizing profusely for the delay and having to cut things short. She seemed genuinely surprised to see so many people there. Before "Elsewhere", she publicly aplogized for blowing WFNX off last Monday: apparently she was scheduled for a phone interview at 10:00 that night, but at the time she was in the studio working on some tracks (for the live EP, perhaps?) and "I was also quite drunk at the time, so it wouldn't have been good. At 2 AM I went, `Oh, shit!' but by then it was too late." :) I don't think anyone took it personally... She played "Elsewhere"!!! Now I can die in peace. :) It was a really nice rendition, too. And the version of "Hold On" was quite mellow, yet still every bit as powerful. She prefaced it by telling the story of what the song is about, and saying that she was proud to have had the chance to perform it at the Lifebeat AIDS benefit in New York City the previous night. (Did anybody go to the Lifebeat show? Who else played there? How was it?) I really enjoyed what I did hear. The "soft combo" works well, and Sarah seemed to be more relaxed and into things than she is in the full-blown shows. It's really amazing how a song like "Hold On" can have so many different incarnations, yet be equally effective in all of them... So who's gonna be hanging out at Central Park, hm? It's less than two weeks away - make your plans now, and pray for fog-free weather that morning... Meredith, who was amused by the number of Tori Amos and Tribe t-shirts she saw in the audience yesterday meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 09:16:27 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: Thank You Mask Man I have seen "Thank You Mask Man" about a zillion times and practically have the whole thing memorized. The first time I saw it was at an animation festival a few years ago, and the last time I saw it was yesterday. :) If anyone is interested, I could send them an audio recording of "Thank You Mask Man." Holly "I don't wanna hear that he's a nice guy he's not a nice guy! If he's such a nice guy, how come he leaves bullets for everybody?" ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 15:38:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: solving secrets and seeing bots Hi! Well, I'm sending the tale of my trek to Boston ostensibly to see Sarah and Milla under separate cover... I will say here, however, that it's really amazing how many Wesleyan University alumni are in Boston who have impeccable musical taste. I've never run into so many people totally out of the blue in my life -- I'm still recovering from the shock. Weird. mjm wondered: >I wonder aloud what Milla's ethnic background is. Her parents are Russian, and I believe she was born in Russia (but she's a total California girl, if her stage persona is genuine). >Almost certainly, >the great Aryan must be Hitler (ys). The box could be a concentration >camp or a ghetto or maybe I'm taking this too literally and she is >talking from present day pov instead? Is this song about the holocaust? >The third to last line above makes me think of Soviet refuseniks who >were locked in jail for years for defying the regime and denied >exit visas. Could the song, in general be about the plight of the >Jewish people? Is she Jewish? I'm not sure if she's Jewish... but remember that not just Russian Jews got nailed by Hitler's forces during WWII, so I would certainly think your interpretation of the song has a good chance of being correct. >Either way, the chorus is the catchiest thing this side >of the common cold. :) That's a GREAT image. Can I use it? :) >And if she wrote it when she was 16 she already has alot in common with Kate! We'll have to see about that one. If she never tours again after the age of 21, we'll definitely know for sure. Vickie listed: >The Pretenders "Tattood Love Boys" "Brass In Pocket" & others Is there a Pretenders video compilation out there? >Wall Of Voodoo "Mexican Radio" What a great song. "I wish I was in Tijuana/Eating barbecued iguana" - hee! >Laurie Anderson "Oh Superman" I *must* see this video. Can anyone help me? >Vickie (watching/listening to Lene Lovich one minute, watching/listening >to October Project the next) Watching October Project? Do they have a video for "Bury My Lovely"? If so, is it being shown anywhere? Jeffy wailed: >Why do I get the feeling that someone is playing an elaborate joke on us all? You have just discovered the secret of the Net. I'm sorry, but now we will have to kill you. >Several years later, she recorded an entire new lead vocal which was placed >over the original instrumental tracks (is it just me, or is the music mixed >a bit differently?) and placed this on her greatest hits album, _The Whole >Story_. Erm, didn't she totally re-record the music, too? The guitar bit at the end is certainly quite a bit different! >The vocal is much deeper, and more mature. KaTe fans are rather >divided as to which they prefer. Personally, I like the original best. I like the '86 vocal best, but that's because it's the first KaTe song I ever knowingly heard, and I loved it from the start. The power of it just grabbed me, and while I understand why most people prefer the original, it just pales in comparison for me. But we all know I'm strange. :) Vickie, thanks for forwarding the Maddy Prior tour dates! (Gee, I wonder if a certain ectophile who will remain nameless would be into taking me to the Iron Horse to see her on my birthday ... ;>) >Her most recent recording is "Year" on Park Records. A most excellent disc, btw. "What You Had For Supper" is chillingly beautiful. Albert noted: >Me too. The male vocals in this song make perfect sense. In the >chorus, the past and present incarnation are singing together. She >used to be a man ("not only am I woman") with long black hair (a >native American, perhaps), but something happened to make him >reincarnate into a female, in the wrong century. I always thought the narrator, a Native American male remained male when he got transported into the wrong century, but because of his long black hair (and presumably Native American jewelry) got mistaken for a woman by the first person to see him. The weirded out vocals always signified the confusion of the moment to me -- this poor guy has just been ripped out of his world and dropped unceremoniously into the wrong century, his head is spinning and he can't figure things out. Elrod's weird vocal percussion underscores the confusion the guy is feeling. Makes perfect sense to me... Speaking of confusion... Neil reported: >> Unfortunatly, the person who caused so much greif is holding >> #ecto hostage again. > > Well, after reading that my curiosity got the better of me so I went >onto IRC for half an hour and tracked down our friend Sens, who was >responsible for all this. I hadn't seen him before really, but I had >some theories about him and what motivates him. Who is this Rava person, and just what happened to make this Sens dude totally lose it? (I get the feeling nobody wants to know the answer.) Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)