Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1139 ecto, Number 1139 Wednesday, 15 June 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* rhine and spirits :-) LIVE MUSIC: Blues'd & Confused Re: rhine and spirits :-) Tori Amos At The Palace, New Haven, CT Re: rhine and spirits :-) Hockey Night in Canada. RE: Tori Amos At The Palace, New Haven, CT Virgin 21st anniv. releases, Sheila Chandra et al Ecto Gathering etc. Re: Heavenly Voices Vancouver follow-up Ack! ======================================================================== Date: 14 Jun 94 19:04:23 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: rhine and spirits :-) Two bands that have been mentioned here will be heralding thru Chicago, gateway to the world cup, in the next few weeks. Spirit of the West and Over the Rhine. So now I'm really on a search for music by these recommended groups which I have never heard. They've been on my to-buy list for a while but I haven't seen their CDs anywhere. Moxy Fruvous is coming to Schuba's again! I once again urge all Chicagophiles to raise themselves and come out to hear this spectacular group. Tam and I don't want to be half the audience again. I noticed that meredith did get the spellings right: Gogh Van Go is the Can'n group, Go Van Gogh the NH group. Does that mean they can keep their names? (If I were the NH group, I'd want to change mine because the Canadians are better known, so far.) Then again, there are two Michael Smiths, two David Wilcox's, and many others I'm sure... And just what type of rag is Mondo 2000? -yourfriendlyneighborhoodmjm *GO SEE MOXY FRUVOUS!!!* ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 14 Jun 94 16:27:40 PDT From: John Relph Subject: LIVE MUSIC: Blues'd & Confused Hello Ecto-friends, I'll apologise up front for the lack of Happy-ness in this posting. Also, this posting may only be of interest to Ectophiles in the San Francisco bay area (especially those on the Peninsula). After a long hiatus, Blues'd & Confused return to the stage for your musical edification! Blues'd & Confused are your very own John Relph and his friend Will Rusch, playing acoustic guitars, mandolins and other such noisemakers. Blues'd & Confused play an amalgam of fingerpicked country blues, oldtime fiddle tunes, and more modern madness, all for your musical edification. Will and I will be playing at the new St. Michael's Art Cafe on Friday, July 8th, starting at 8:30pm and playing on into the night. St. Michael's Art Cafe is located at 800 Emerson in downtown Palo Alto. Our first tape, _Hip Eponymous_, is now available at Printers Inc. bookstore in Mountain View. Long out of print, this cassette-only release contains many of your favorites, recorded live at St. Michaels and other area venues for that "I was there" feeling. So mark that date on your calendar, folks, and we'll see you real soon. Peace, -- John ======================================================================== From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Re: rhine and spirits :-) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 17:13:27 -0700 (PDT) > Spirit of the West and Over the Rhine. So now I'm really > on a search for music by these recommended groups which I have > never heard. They've been on my to-buy list for a while but > I haven't seen their CDs anywhere. I can't comment on Over the Rhine, but Spirit of the West are a band as near to my heart as any band I know. They're a local (ie: Vancouver) band who are now ten years old, believe it or not. They had their tenth anniversary concert at the Commodore last weekend. They started out doing high-energy Gaelic- style folk music, but switched to a more electric rocking sound two albums back. Of their work, Tripping up the Stairs and Labour Day are probably the best examples of their folk-oriented work. Save this House is the sort of transition album, with a tremendous variety of different vibes and rhythms from rowdy drinking songs to an angered protest against environmental destruction to a heartbroken song about learning of an unfaithful lover. With Go Figure they added a drummer (before Geoff Kelly had played bodhran - Irish hand drum) and picked up some electric guitars and cranked up the angst a bit. Faithlift, their most recent album, is generally better than Go Figure; the former album having a somewhat rough feeling as though they were just learning how to deal with a drummer. If you're into folkier music I'd suggest looking into Tripping up the Stairs or Save this House. If you like a harder electric sound I think Faithlift is a great album. Anyway, I'm afraid I'm not terribly good at describing music - one of those dancing about architecture things. But essentially I think Spirit of the West combine excellent musicianship, well-crafted songs and thoughtful witty lyrics into a pretty impressive blend. Not everyone like's John Mann's voice - he does most of the lead vocals - as it's somewhat harsh and angry at times, but I found it really grew on me. If you're having trouble finding Spirit of the West albums, lemme know. All of their albums (except their first eponymous album, which was never released on CD as far as I know) are on sale locally for $8.88 (plus 15% tax) apiece. I think they go up to their normal prices - around $12 or so. I could mail you a copy or two. > Moxy Fruvous is coming to Schuba's again! I once again urge > all Chicagophiles to raise themselves and come out to hear this > spectacular group. Tam and I don't want to be half the audience > again. Really? Moxy Fruvous attract pretty sizable crowds here in Canada! Their endless exposure on MuchMusic has certainly helped their career. > And just what type of rag is Mondo 2000? A slick glossy mag full of pictures designed to appeal to technoweenies who think they're really dangerous and radical. Vogue for the cybergeek set. :) Actually, seriously I used to follow M2000 a couple of years ago when they covered some of the territory that Wired now covers. Nowadays I must admit I haven't really bothered to follow their publications. They seem to cover the following topics, more or less: networky stuff and why it's so cool, nootropic drugs, various bands, silly clothes that supposedly appeal to cyberpunks, new toys that appeal to geeks, PGP and why it's nifty, Clipper and why it's the work of the Devil, raves, er... That sort of thing. They certainly expend a lot of energy into making their graphics and typesetting look snazzy and unorthodox. They're fun that way. - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 20:16:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Tori Amos At The Palace, New Haven, CT Hi! Well, I saw Tori Amos in New Haven last night. Tamar was also in attendance, so I guess we could say we had 100% local Ectophilic participation in this event. :) The show was good. In retrospect I enjoyed it more than the New York show, although as it was going on I had to seriously restrain myself from running up to the back of the balcony and removing the layrinx of the woman sitting in the aisle seat of the second row from the back wall, right section who WOULD NOT SHUT UP for the entire show. Scream, hoot, holler, have one loud orgasm after another, yell intelligent endearing phrases such as "Yo! Tori, you fuckin' RULE!" and "I LOVE YOU AND I'M GONNA LET YOU KNOW IT!!!" At one point I did yell, "SHUT UP!!!" when I couldn't take it any more, but it didn't work. Fortunately the rest of the audience, while noisy, was receptive and reasonably respectful. I only saw one flash bulb go off the entire time, which was an improvement over the New York show in March. My co-worker who had stood in line to get me tickets and had bought one for herself, was utterly blown away. It was the first concert she had ever been to, and she had only really heard three of Tori's songs ("Crucify", "SATY", and "Precious Things"), so I was worried, but afterwards all she could say was, "Wow. She's awesome," over and over. She still hadn't recovered this morning when I got in to work. :> Set list was pretty standard, though there were a few surprises, namely the first song ("Sugar", yay!) and one of the songs in the second encore: Stevie Nicks' "Landslide"!!! Tori did a beautiful job with this song... simply stunning. (Anybody know which album this song first appeared on? One of my friends who was there with me thinks it actually first appeared on the Bucking- ham/Nicks album, but he wasn't sure...) And she played a truncated version of "Yes Anastasia" (the original is 9 minutes long, I can't blame her!) that was powerful beyond measure. But the highlight of the night was "Bells for Her". I almost fainted when I came in and saw two pianos on stage -- yes, it was really happening, she'd brought the prepared piano over from Europe at last! Folks, if you have tickets to see Tori on this leg of the tour, prepare to go to heaven when she plays this song. It's transcendental. The evening ended with a particularly moving rendition of "China". No "Baker Baker", "Pretty Good Year", "Past The Mission", "Honey", or "Space Dog", alas - maybe in NYC on Thursday night??? She only did 5 songs from _UtP_, as opposed to 7 from _LE_ - I wonder why she's still stuck playing the older material? I'm not complaining, it's just that it would be nice to hear live renditions of "Space Dog", "The Wrong Band" and "Cloud On My Tongue" ... But as if the amazing show weren't enough, when I got home I checked my tape of the previous night's 120 Minutes, and there was the "Cornflake Girl" video, finally!!! My latest quest is ended. Great video, btw. I'll have to watch it a few more times, but already I know my favorite part is when she plays the merry-go-round like a piano during the solo. :> I bought a tour program. I don't know why they're calling it a "tour program", since there's next to nothing about the tour in it at all, but it's still a nice thing to have. (Sarah does better tour programs, IMHO.) Sigh. And I get to experience it all again on Thursday. I'm trying to convince my parents to go see her in Orlando, but I'm not sure if they'll be able to get past the way she humps her piano bench ... we'll have to see. :) Meredith, still looking for a .sig beneath these dirty sheets meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 20:19:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Re: rhine and spirits :-) Hi! Yes, Mike, Go Van Gogh and Gogh Van Go are spelled differently, so techincally they're different names. However, they are pronounced exactly the same, and if you're two bands getting played over the radio, you might as well have the same name. The Canadian band is better known, even though I think the New Haven gruop has been around longer, so if it came to a battle I think the Canadians would win. Who knows? Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Hockey Night in Canada. Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Well, I've just done something I never thought I'd do. Actually *watch* a Stanley Cup hockey final. It's true! I watched most of the game, including the last agonizing face-offs, from the Vancouver Convention Centre. Fancy that. But was I there for the game? Nope. I was actually staffing a table for the Vancouver FreeNet association at the annual conference of the Canadian Library Association. What a geek! :) Still, it was a bizarre experience for me, the non sports-fan. I was in the lobby of the convention centre, which features an enormous glass-covered atrium that ascends heavenwards at least nine or ten storeys. And the orgasmic cheers and horrified mass groans of the fans - and the odd librarian who wasn't attending the keynote address - resonated in the cavernous space most oddly. It's so strange to think how a small rubber disc being knocked about a large sheet of ice on the opposite end of the continent by very large men armed with wooden sticks and bundled up like children for a winter's outing can have such a profound emotional impact on people. I found it kind of exciting myself! Amazing... The best part for me, though, was watching the gut-wrenching reaction folks had when someone tried to turn up the teevee set's volume and accidentally switched the channel to the Knowledge Network, which was showing an interesting documentary on the subject of squirrels. After the clock finally ran out and New York had won I walked out beneath the giant teflon sails of Canada Place and gazed across the waters of Coal Harbour towards Stanley Park, named after the same chap as the cup. Quite a beautiful evening, actually, Dramatic sunset, the green-sloped mountains of the North Shore, the dark waters of Burrard Inlet... And the cars packed with happy whooping teenagers waving white towels (odd - I thought white flags represented defeat) and the odd maple leaf, honking their horns incessantly and leaning out their windows as they drove down to Robson Street. You'd think Vancouver'd won or something. Quite strange - the cardboard and aluminium foil Stanley Cups on top of cars, the electronic bus displays reprogrammed to read GO CANUCKS, the ugly Canucks logo on every storefront window, people spilling out onto the street waving their Canucks shirts and whatnot... So weird to see Vancouverites so excited about something. I was also horrified to see evidence of most un-Canadian *violence* and *vandalism*! I saw two newspaper boxes that someone had *tipped over*! And a child hurled an apple (symbolism?) at a passing bus. And worst of all, some men tossed a traffic cone into the middle of the street. I was appalled at such wanton displays of hooliganism. What is Vancouver coming to? Certainly it's the closest thing to a riot I've ever witnessed in this town! :) Anyway, for what it's worth, those are some of my observations on the most exciting event of the year 'round these parts. - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 10:15:49 +0200 From: Marion Kippers Subject: RE: Tori Amos At The Palace, New Haven, CT >Hi! > >Well, I saw Tori Amos in New Haven last night. >[...] >Set list was pretty standard, though there were a few surprises, namely the >first song ("Sugar", yay!) and one of the songs in the second encore: Stevie >Nicks' "Landslide"!!! Tori did a beautiful job with this song... simply >stunning. (Anybody know which album this song first appeared on? One of my >friends who was there with me thinks it actually first appeared on the Bucking- >ham/Nicks album, but he wasn't sure...) > >Meredith, still looking for a .sig beneath these dirty sheets Hi, "Landslide" is on the first Fleetwood Mac album with Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham, which doesn't have a title. The album also includes "Rhiannon". I would have to look it up for details -- the album is at home and I'm at my work... Just ask me if you'd like more information. While I'm here... sorry to put this to the list, but I've tried both Jessica's address and Ecto-request for almost two weeks now. :-( Jessica, or anybody else who can do anything about it: PLEASE change my subscribtion to the DIGEST version of the list! Thanks. Best wishes, Marion _________________________________________________________________ Marion Kippers Wolters Kluwer Academic Publishers Automation Department Dordrecht, The Netherlands Marion.Kippers@wkap.nl "Pity our emptiness..." (HR) _________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:59:26 BST Subject: Virgin 21st anniv. releases, Sheila Chandra et al The Virgin CD is a real mixed bag. Too much rap on it for my liking but the song that makes it worth the 2 quid I paid for it is the Sheila Chandra song with her just using her voice and nothing else. Brilliant!! I've got to get her new album. Soon. Very soon! tim ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 09:26:52 EST From: Ilka Heber Subject: Ecto Gathering etc. Hi everybody, well, I made it back from my holidays in England and Scotland! The Ecto Gathering was great, just a shame that (a) there weren't more people there and (b) that we couldn't do it at somebody's house. On Friday, the day before the party, we had met Dave, who unfortunately had to sign off from Ecto, as he's losing his net access, and decided to wander to Steve Fagg's hotel (a very run-down place, right, Steve??? = ) ). While Dave was on the telephone trying to contact Steve in his room we saw somebody with a fuzzy blue Happy T-shirt coming down the stairs. Sure enough it really was Steve! He was just on his way to meet up with Neile and Jim who had contacted him only a little earlier. We joint him and had a chance to say hello to Neile and Jim briefly before wandering off. Dave had Theatre tickets for us for the night, so we wanted to change and freshen up a bit. The next day we met at Mamma's pizzeria around about 4 o'clock. Apart from Steve, Neile, Jim, Dave, Pete and myself we also met Jens Brage who came over from Denmark and Scott from Lovehounds. We had a chat, some drinks and two huge pizzas. Afterwards we moved on to a pub next door. Dave and Gillian, who had joint us a little later, left quite early, as they had a party to go to. As the pub was pretty noisy we decided we move to the hotel bar in Steve's hotel. At about 11 Neile, Jim, Pete and I, who all lived in the same street (!) wandered off. It was a great evening, and it was fantastic meeting everybody else. Still, the atmosphere in a pub is not quite the right thing for an Ecto Party... Hey, and yes, it *is* true, Neile really looks a little like Vickie!!! (*HUGS* to Vickie and Neile) Oh, I should really tell you about my lucky CD shopping Tim already mentioned a little while ago. The most amazing thing was that I really managed to find the first Bliss album, which had been deleted quite a while ago and so far was nowhere to be found. It was literally in the last shop we went to and only cost 3 pounds!!! Some of the other goodies I found were the following: - Ashley Maher "Hi", "Pomegranate" (it's in the mail for you, Meredith!), and a CD single "Dreaming Re-Dreaming" - Sarah promo "Into the Fire" - Peter Gabriel promo "Love Town" - two copies of Heather Nova's "Spirit in You" EP. The interesting thing is that the cover bears a hand-painted (...let's say scribbeled!) woman, so both copies are interesting, as far as I'm concerned. I think these were the really interesting ones! Oh, Neile was kind enough to bring a copy of Milla's "Devine Comedy" over for me. Milla really is fantastic! I just love "The Alien Song"!!! Before I finish off for today, let me ask you something again. I already inquired about Lisa Germano's "On the Way Down from the Moon Palace" earlier and I thought that I could get it from CDC, as they still had it in their catalogue (thanks again, Tim, for finding that out for me). Unfortunately, they don't have it in stock anymore. If somebody could be so kind and have a look for me I would really appreciate it. I would really like to have that CD. Anyway, nice to be back, *hugs* to everybody, Ilka = ) ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 01:47:00 +0200 From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: Heavenly Voices Hi! Glenn wrote: > I just picked up this 2CD box called _Heavenly Voices_, a mammoth [...] > In fact, I haven't even listened to it yet, but there is *very* little > information in the box (in fact, the box and the long cards in it add > nothing but bulk to the package; they could have easily put the two CDs in > one of those double holders and added a single fold to the booklet without > losing any info), and I wonder if anybody knows anything more about it, > like, what year did it come out in, etc.? Well, since I know someone from one of the bands on Heavenly Voices (Chandeen) I might get answers to these questions. Or you might ask him himself (Michael Schwalm ). Bye, Uli -- "Mann, was glaubst'n Du, was das fuer 'ne Rechenleistung is?" - "'n 66'er, _mindestens_" (2*anon, CeBIT '94, SGI booth, Onyx/PowerChallenge presentation) ======================================================================== From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Vancouver follow-up Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 04:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Sigh. Well. How depressing. After my previous jokey and premature post it seems Vancouver did indeed go pretty mad last night. Thousands of young folk turned up downtown as I was leaving. I'm sure you've all heard the news reports - window-breaking & tear gassing, etc. Glad I left and slept through it all... my part of town was pretty quiet. Right now there's a lot of hand-wringing on the radio about what happened, looking for someone to blame (police violence is the problem, bored middle class teenagers are the problem, alcohol was to blame, etc.), not wanting to believe that this happened in *Vancouver*... Dear, dear! Humans in mass crowds are strange animals. I guess Vancouver's becoming a big city with big city problems in an era of dissatisfaction. Isn't having a riot of some size a rite of passage for today's modern urban centre? Luckily there aren't any hockey playoffs scheduled for late August for our Vancouver ecto-gathering... :p - Neil (unhappity) K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:40:18 PDT From: snpf@lucid.com (Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson) Subject: Ack! Oh, bill the cat, be with me today.... Today's company meeting is "Layoffs: Do you stay or go?" *Sigh* keep the spirits up! (gulp) -seanympf ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)