Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #625 ecto, Number 625 Thursday, 24 June 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Champagne Jam, 6/22/93 Happa Happa Happa Happa Re: pre-pg-music Re: Notes Blubb, blubb... a sign of life :-) Re: PG! A Sampler Tape Today's your birthday friend.... notes and answers ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 0:40:10 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Champagne Jam, 6/22/93 Sorry Meredith, > Next week, if all goes according to plan, I should be able to present > the American Premiere of Kate's "Moments of Pleasure", who cares about ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > the sound quality, my listeners have heard much worse. :) Too late! I played it on my Chicago show tonight... Vickie ps, the rest of the show was Kate too. pps, sound quality? pah! Before TSW was released, and the only way to hear the song "The Sensual World" was a phone call to Canada, I called live on the air and played it for the folks. ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 0:54:20 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Happa Happa Happa Happa HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Ken Kindler!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to John Wheeler!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Teresa VanDyne!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Dave Torok!! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 1:17:18 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: pre-pg-music > Heck, if it was my concert, I'd play some Kate Bush too. > But seriously, wouldn't this be a phenomenal vehicle to > Happy-vangelize? Has PG ever heard HR? I wonder how > much convincing (of who?) it would take to have them play, > say Feed the Fire as one of the pre-concert songs?! > > -mjm I did send Peter a CD of Warpaint right after it was released. I don't *know* that he heard it, but I did get a letter from his assistant that it was received and that she'd pass it on to him. I have another copy of Warpaint and a copy of Equipoise with Peter's name on them :-). If at all possible, I'll get them to him. I'm still kickkickkicking myself for skimming posts and missing Chip's warning that Peter would be on WXRT here in Chicago last week. I would have sent Chris down to the station to give Peter the CDs. :-( :-( :-(. Btw, my friend Charley heard the interview and Peter said that he was in Chicago scouting locations for an American WOMAD! I hope it happens. Speaking of Charley, he's going to be in Cambridge, MA for a week, soon (I'll find out when) and would like to meet other Happy/Kate fans, or, at the very least, find out where the cool record stores are. I know that some info about this was posted recently, but I didn't need it then and didn't keep it. I know that footah posted something, could someone forward me that post/thread if you still have it handy? Thanks in advance. (Charley, some might remember, traveled from Chicago to Philly for Happy's show at the University.) Something cool: Steve Fagg called us from *Switzerland* tonight, just to say hi. He got to hear "Moments of Pleasure" over the telephone! From Peter&Krys in England, to Vickie&Chris in Chicago, to SteveF from England, in Switzerland! Technology, gotta love it! Hey Paula, great intro! Welcome again!! How did you find out about Ecto? I *love* the new Cranes album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 01:15:50 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: Notes I would certainly agree that the woman's voice wasn't strong enough for the setup as was...perhaps that might be fixed by the studio album. And my impression was less jangly guitars (unless you consider Screaming Trees "jangly") and more power. But, as I said, the vocals seemed almost contradictory to the power. Also, there was a certain lethary to much of the bass and lead guitar, unlike the PJ Harvey that I had likened it to. I've been thinking about this...there needs to be a plan to cover as much ground as possible. I am not finished, but what I have so far... Handel's "Messiah" (Cheating a lot-really to discs, but one small case ;-) Holst's "The Planets" "Whole Story" Kate Bush (I know, cheating a little...else I'd pick "Kick Inside" Either "Trinity Session" or "Whites Off Earth Now" by the Cowboy Junkies "Dry" PJ Harvey Either: "Nocturne", "The Scream", or "The Peel Sessions" by Siouxsie and the Banshees "Stones/Manuscript" Neil Diamond "Indigo Girls" "Greetings From TImbuk 3" Timbuk 3 "Katrina and the Waves" But there's so much left out! Also, I have been considering the idea about Kate as God, Happy as Jesus, and Jane as the Holy Ghost (I think I have that right) But there are too many...I say we need to fall back to a pantheon, like the Greek (or Roman). Zeus = PG. Hera=Kate. Athena=Happy etc. I guess Aphrodite would have to be Christine Lavin, right? Dennis Parslow You know, it's 90% of the politicians Troy, NY 12180 who give the other 10% a bad name p00421@psilink.com -Henry Kissinger (via Paul Harvey) ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 13:30:00 +0200 From: drotschm@eos.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Wolfgang Drotschmann) Subject: Blubb, blubb... a sign of life :-) Hallo, all you nice folks on Ecto! Now I've spent enough time on being like a submarine. Let's surface :-) There are many days where I simply haven't got the right leisure to read all the mailings close enough. Then, at the end of a week, I force myself to work through all those messages. Especially after a weekend there are Ecto mails in my RMAIL file by the dozen. Sometimes I have the impulse to comment a number of them. But somehow often I'm too lazy... Sorry ;-) So, over the last two months there are a few things I want to say: Hey Klaus! It was me you had an appointment with at the Suzanne Vega concert :-) I'm still unhappy that we missed... Martin --- Good idea to mail the Ecto file. I think it was a long time ago the last one made it around. I'll send you my personals... You will receive a number of corrections from Germany... They'll change the zip codes... Meredith, I saw _Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe_ twice. First in German, then the "version orginale" at the "Cinemathek" in Cologne. We were a little bit surprised. The action (this word always reminds me of the way Arnold Schwarzenegger pronounces it :-) takes place in Alberta (right?!?) and we thought the actors would use a strange slang (for our ears). But --- no problemo :-) I recommend this movie! YES! YES! YES! The ending is a bit confusing. The main character, this old woman, can't remember her name (Ninnie?), can be confounded with Idgie, I think. After the first time I was sure she isn't Idgie. I talked to friends who saw it (in Paris). They still cannot believe that these are different persons. Read the book, I always told them, and it is absolutely clear! Vickie! I've really waited for the informations about the HR5. Oh, HR5 --- is this the official term now for this release here on Ecto? :-) Thanks! But few questions I have. I'll mail you. Yes, really! :-) Bobert :-) I like _Communique_, too. But each album of them has its own special qualities. Each one has its own style. At the moment, I would like to hear a new album by the Dire Straits (or should I say: Mark Knopfler?) a la _Making Movies_. But _Brothers in Arms_ is great too (especially the second half). One of THE albums everybody should have heard (like Pink Floyd's _DSotM_)! Too bad that I missed the tour back in... hmmm... 1984? Okay, that's all for now. Ciao, Wolfgang /'~`~')~)'~`~'Wolfgang Drotschmann~`~'~`I'see'the'girls`walk~by`dressed`\ | ./O O\. email: drotschm@eos.informatik.uni-bonn.de + + | | # > # snail: Institut fuer Informatik /^\ /^\ | | #| |# Abteilung fuer Informatik IV / O \./ O \ | | `|~|' Roemerstr. 164 | | | `===="="==: D-5300 Bonn 1 Konzentriertes |_|^|_|^|_| | \' voice: [+49] (x228) 550 277 Rumhaengen!!! / `in~their~summer`clothes`I'have~to'turn~my'head~until~my`darkness~goes' ! Member of the League for Programming Freedom ! ! -- write to lpf@uunet.uu.net ! ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 08:48:19 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: PG! >DATE: Wed, 23 Jun 93 23:14:35 -0400 >FROM: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu > >Mike and I saw the Secret World tour last night. It was *way* spiff. > >"Games Without Frontiers" was cool, but the song really sounds better with >the repeated "jeux sans frontieres". Well, Jeff, not to belabor the obvious, but pretty much anything would sound better with Kate singing backup vocals, right? ;-) >|Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | >|SAFH Lite [tm] | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | >|jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | > Dennis Parslow You know, it's 90% of the politicians Troy, NY 12180 who give the other 10% a bad name p00421@psilink.com -Henry Kissinger (via Paul Harvey) ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: A Sampler Tape Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 23:32:56 +1000 (EST) Hello ectophiles one and all ... A little while ago I made a sampler tape for somebody here in Melbourne. We missed each other when we were supposed to meet, so the transfer has not yet occurred. Anyway, when I made it I tried to keep the time devoted to each of the albums about the same. It contains ... SIDE 1: Case of Glass | The First to Cry | Rhodes I The Wretches Gone Awry | Suicide Song | Come Here | Under and Over the Brink | Not For Me | Rhodes II Noone Here | Take Me With You | Perfect Irony | I Am A Legend | Rearmament The Issue Is | I Have a Heart | SIDE 2: Would That I Could | If So | Ecto I Cannot Go On | Look For The Child | Feed The Fire | Lay Me Down | Warpaint In Hiding | The Flight | Temporary and Eternal | Equipoise Mother Sea | Anyway, the point of all this is that I am currently listening to it, and In Hiding followed by The Flight is a _fantastic_ combination. Try it sometime :). on my tape there wasn't much of a gap, and the rhythm of the Flight coming in off the soft ending of In Hiding really spun me out. Sorry for wasting all your time with this. I just had to let it out of my system :) :) Chris. P.S. I heard moments5.au tonight, the sampled new Kate Bush song, and I'm _very_ impressed. I can't wait to get her new album :). -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== Subject: Re: PG! Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 10:23:25 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu >>"Games Without Frontiers" was cool, but the song really sounds better with >>the repeated "jeux sans frontieres". > >Well, Jeff, not to belabor the obvious, but pretty much anything would >sound better with Kate singing backup vocals, right? ;-) Well, yeah, but I would have been perfectly satisfied with Joy Askew singing it. The refrain just sounded like it had a hole in it. Jeff ======================================================================== From: brianb@lobby.ti.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: PG! Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 9:47:54 CDT Dennis wrote: > > >"Games Without Frontiers" was cool, but the song really sounds better with > >the repeated "jeux sans frontieres". > > Well, Jeff, not to belabor the obvious, but pretty much anything would > sound better with Kate singing backup vocals, right? ;-) > Oh, thank goodness, I had my flamethrower primed and ready.... when I first read this I that it said: ...pretty much anything would sound better *than* with Kate singing BV... *Whew!* ;^) Saw His Name is Alive last night. Gets my vote for one of the most laid back stage performances I've ever seen. The guitarist was munchin' on an apple and introducing songs between bites. I had noticed that there were no T-shirts for sale and had written them off until the guitarist said that there was a secret about the t-shirts. Later, during a drum and vocal solo, he climbed off the stage and wandered thru the crowd whispering to people. He told us that they were going to sell shirts right in front of the stage when they were done performing. Apparently, the venue, Trees (in Dallas), had insisted they get 20% of all T-shirt sales, even though it's in HNIA's contract that the venues wouldn't. So after the show, we gathered around the stage and the other guitarrist (sorry, I don't remember their names.) hauled in a box and started handing out shirts for $15. Another mix-up was that at every other show, they had been the headliner, with Swell opening for them. Well, due to a mix-up in Dallas, this got swapped, and HNIA had to play first. Which was fine, since I went to see them anyway. The crowd more or less dispersed once HNIA was done. OhHappy: What was that I saw a few days back (from Kevin I think?) saying they were considering coming to Dallas? Did I read that right? br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@lobby.ti.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 06:50:56 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ***** Dave Torok ****** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Kevin Harkins Thu July 5 1973 Cancer Jim Gurley Mon July 6 1959 Cancer Courtney Dallas Fri July 9 1971 Cat Michael Peskura Sat July 9 1949 HallOfFamer Finney T. Tsai Sat July 9 1966 Cancer Shelly Sun July 10 1966 Cancer Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer John Zimmer Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Cathy Guetzlaff Mon July 18 1955 Cancer -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.w.open.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 18:33:41 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: notes and answers Hello, Belated Happy Birthdays to Teresa, Ken and John. :-) :-) :-) Happy Birthday Dave, have a nice day. :-) Welcome, Paula. :-) Bob wrote: > Dirk, I am very happy you are still with us. Surviving a blowout at 90 >mph entails more than a little luck, and a good deal of driving skill. We >are all glad that your guardian angel was nearby... Thanks very much! It's good to have you all here. Woj: >interesting - i was just talking to a co-worker (who is from belgium) about >high speed blowouts on germany's autobahn. he said that a blowout at that >speed was a lost cause. i, for one, am happy to hear otherwise (though i do >not think i'd recommend anyone to try this at home). I don't know the reason for the blowout. The car is rather new and so are the tires. Maybe the tire got damaged by one of the marking nails that stuck in the asphalt along one of the big roadworks to mark the temporary lanes. Fortunately it was the rear tire, so the car didn't break out and I could keep it under control. A front tire blowout would have been a lost cause, indeed. Alan wrote: >And to think I was wondering why I've become so depressed and cynical over >the past year. There is hardly any good news worth mentioning! I don't read books, either. But there's no reason to turn into a cynic. I recently read an article on the flood of information that reaches us every day and that we've turned into an information society over the last decades. We take it for granted that we immediately get informed about things that happen in the remotest places of the world. But the media seem to be convinced that only bad news are good news. The worse a catastrophe the bigger the headlines and the higher the circulation. There are lots of good things happening on earth, let's see ..., hmmm, well, they've forecasted a hot summer, Happy has released her first CD5, ... ok, I think you know what I mean. Chin up and think positive! ;-) Paula said: >The latest from the world of mathematics. On my desk today, Volume 1, >Number 1, of The Journal of Fuzzy Mathematics. And of course, it has >a BLUE COVER. Mmmh, interesting. I only know the journal "Fuzzy Sets and Systems" which has a yellow cover with red letters. Angelos kyrlided: >I will disagree with woj. I *like* the funked up Games without frontiers. >I've been playing PoV constantly ever since the concerts for that and for >In your eyes. Is that amazing live version available on CD? Well, if he played the same versions as on his 86/87 tour, then they are available on CD. I have a CD from RTV-Networks Toronto from their Live Show Series, "Peter Gabriel 1986/87 World Tour". The sound quality is excellent, no wonder - it's a recording made for radio stations. It contains: San Jacinto, Games without frontiers, Shock the monkey, Mercy street, Sledgehammer, Solsbury hill, Don't give up, Lay your hands on me, In your eyes (10:29!!), and the inevitable Biko. The same concert is still available as an "official" live bootleg, but I don't know how the quality is. That's all for now, ciao. Dirk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ || \\\\\ || ///// | dkastens@dosuni1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE || ))))) IRK || ((((( ASTENS | "Music's the way, the only way I know" || ///// || \\\\\ | Happy Rhodes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)