Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #607 ecto, Number 607 Monday, 14 June 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* belated introductions, happy vs kate, and etc. Re: Oh *my* Re: Not to be confused with... I'm backFIRST Ahem. !!! Tour '93 Dinosaurs etc. Hello all! Playlists Re: Ingrid 'n' Aimee 'n' me Swing the Statue in memorium Catching up again Songs! Ectomeeting and PG. money is a fiction, after all Re: six digests of replies and reviews to boot! Re: belated introductions, happy vs kate, and etc. ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 93 00:27:49 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: belated introductions, happy vs kate, and etc. hi all, since everyone is introducing themselves and giving vital statistics and personal measurements, i suppose that i should join in. name: brni email: mojzes@monet.vill.edu mojzes@tiger.vill.edu 199561011@ucis.vill.edu 199561011@vuvaxcom.bitnet phone: (215) 848-1402 address: 6212 baynton st., philadelphia, PA 19144 usa shoe size: 10.5-11 (US) passions: (not in order) music and anti-music (but only the good stuff), text, sex, vegetarianism, tony levin's bass playing, photography/art, travel/road trips, philosophy, cuervo gold. um, i guess i got everything in there. oh yeah, i guess i like computers and bunnies and mountains and northern lights and snow and great big thunderstorms and cold weather and small cars, too. ok, lessee, in other news: a while back i mentioned a woman that i used to see who's now married asked me to the philadelphia folk festival, so i'm going, and how i sent her a tape of ecto and equipoise, and she loved them and called happy a goddess. well, i talked to her yesterday, and she now owns VI and ecto on disk, and will be getting the rest when she can. and then, sounding sorta timid and guilty, she said "um, actually, uh, i may even like her better than kate. i feel like a traitor." there is no better compliment (no matter how wrongheaded, for there are none that can surpass Kate). in the same conversation, i was describing ecto to her and mentioned vickie and her radio show, and krys said "oh, *her*! she's in this catalog that i have." well, vickie, you know you're famous when people in virginia beach have heard of you... :) in other other news: i'll be visiting my SO next weekend, and will find myself with nothing to do in woodstock, ny, on saturday afternoon and evening while she works. anyone have any advice on things to do in the woodstock area? in still other news, the darkroom is slowly taking shape (we're converting an old meat locker in what used to be a butcher shoppe into a darkroom--its got hooks and everything!). unfortunately, by the time it's done, i'll be significantly poorer, especially if i also get the effects box for my band i've been saying i'll get. sigh. "capital, it fails us now." well, this is probably more that y'all wanna read anyway, so i'll stop babbling now. take care, brni "dance with me dance to the tension of a world on the wane i shuffle around on wooden floors now no longer afraid i will be a good boy, i said, i will be a good boy." gang of four ======================================================================== Date: 12 Jun 1993 01:05:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "she listens like her head's on fire.." Subject: Re: Oh *my* Oh my... We went to see Jurassic Park tonight and it is unbelievable amazing and I'm going to have nightmares about dinasaurs tonight! I concur....go see it now! -Quenby ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 93 01:06:27 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) > >Drop what you're doing and GO SEE _JURASSIC PARK_. > >NOW. > um, its a bit late. i don't think that they show movies this late. > >Character development? Yeah, right. Though Crichton probably wants to think ' so. > have any of you noticed the way crichton recycles characters? the main character, the math guy, the obnoxious butch woman all show up in a number of his books. he does have a way of making reading charts an interesting thing, tho... >BUT OH, MAN, THOSE DINOSAURS! They *exist*. They are beyond astounding. > no no no, those were just philly sewer rats in costumes. rilly, some people are sooooo gullible. >The movie is quite scary, purely due to suspense. Spielberg still knows >how to do it. > >Wow. Wow. Wow. > >Jeff > haven't seen it yet, but i will, as soon as the crowds die down, ahem, as soon as the crowds lessen a bit. i hate crowded theatre's, perhaps because i hate the idea that i might like something that lots of other people like. brni ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 20:01:02 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: Not to be confused with... >DATE: Fri, 11 Jun 93 1:42:57 EDT >FROM: WretchAwry > >Great playlist Meth! Just for fun, here's mine for this week's Chicago >show: > >Cowboy Junkies...Mariner's Song Well, why even continue-what could possibly follow Coboy Junkies??? >Kate Bush...Brazil Oh, yeah...well, besides Kate, I mean. >Carmel...If Birds Can Fly (thanks Klaus!) >Moodswings...Rainsong >Suzanne Vega...As A Child Speaking of stream of conciousness, not to be confused with Moody Blues "In the Eyes of a Child" >Ashley Maher...Dreaming (thanks AnthonyK!) >The HeartThrobs...Winter Came Too Soon >Lida Husik...Ship Going Down >Shonen Knife...Ah Singapore So did people decide that Shonen Knife were cool, or pitiful? I vote for cool, but most of my friends (who do not shy away from wierd music) seem to disagree. >Ingrid Karklins...Time/...Spiny Lobsters >Happy Rhodes...Dreams Are >Happy Rhodes...The Perfect Irony > >And next week's Kansas City show: > >Victoria Williams...Statue Of A Bum >Victoria Williams...Poetry >The Innocence Mission...Evensong *sigh* >Najma...Neend Koyi >Mary Coughlin...Mother's Little Helper >Kate Bush...Rocket's Tail >Dead Can Dance...Mesmerism >Happy Rhodes...Suicide Song >Heidi Berry...Little Tragedy >Jane Siberry...Lena Is A White Table > >(buncha old favorites...I haven't bought anything new in ages) > >Vickie > I also have to decide between the Spin Doctors/Screaming Trees/Soul Asylum show and Maura O'Connell. (One other advantage of Maura is that her show is free). The other thing is that both shows are the night after our (SPAC's) Newport Jazz Festival. Has anyone else heard of Kate & Anna McGarrigle? Oh yeah, and the Bobs on July 26th! Oh well, time to shut up and hope everyone forgets what an moron I am;-) Dennis Parslow You know, it's 90% of the politicians Troy, NY 12180 who give the other 10% a bad name p00421@psilink.com (heard on Paul Harvey) ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 08:19:39 -0230 From: eperry@kean.ucs.mun.ca Subject: I'm backFIRST Hi there folks. I can now become a real person again (and hopefully change my lurker status in the very near future). Yes, it's true. The written thesis was passed by all three examiners and the oral exammination went without a hitch (okay... some of the DNA fingerprinting questions, and those relating to evolution of certain behaviours in seals, got a little tough but I managed.) Thanks to everyone for all of the bday wishes. I had a great day and we even got some sun here on The Rock, in celebration! Yngve, you are not alone -- we are expecting snow this weekend. Yuck! Marylou, aren't you glad you moved to The Mainland? While lurking over the past few months, I added lots of new music to my "want list" plus got some great movie recommendations. Thanks you guys! You helped me get through an intense period just by keeping those digests full. Jeff, I will be heading to DC in two weeks (I'm working on a booking for the 25th). Beth ======================================================================== Subject: Ahem. Date: Sat, 12 Jun 93 09:37:18 -0400 From: Michael Matthews I would appreciate it if when anyone else replies to Jeffy Rex The Anti-Christ's posting about Jurassic Park, they would take me off the CC: list. Y'see, he's just RUBBING IT IN that he saw it before I did. I was SUPPOSED to see it Friday with the rest of my fellow workers, but that fell through. Thank you. :-) :-) :-) ------ Mike Matthews, matthews@ectds.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ Goldenstern's Rules: 1. Always hire a rich attorney 2. Never buy from a rich salesman. ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 17:48:36 -0230 From: eperry@kean.ucs.mun.ca Subject: !!! Hey Gang! I'm in complete shock... I found a copy of _Equipoise_ *here* on The Rock!!! Of course I bought it even though I had to pay more than I would have if I'd ordered it directly from AG. It turns out that the manager had remembered me ranting and raving about Happy Rhodes so when he saw her latest on some order list he thought he'd bring it in. I think I made a scene, I was so delighted. As I was leaving the store I heard one of the gals from behind the counter saying that maybe they should order some more of HR's stuff. Yes!! Beth ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 93 14:20:14 PDT From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Tour '93 Now that I've completed the arrangements, I can announce plans for my summer tour. I'll be appearing in Denver for about four hours on Friday, July 2, on my way to a three-day stop in Atlanta. On my way back I'll be passing through Seattle for about half an hour. Screaming fans will find me at the Denver airport from 11:47 AM to 3:36 PM on July 2. I'll be in Atlanta from Friday evening to Monday afternoon of July 5, then in Seattle's airport from 8:11 PM to 8:45 PM. All times are subject to change, especially if it's another good summer for thunderstorms like it was last year (when my arrival in Atlanta was delayed 4 1/2 hours by storms over Chicago and Atlanta). To Vickie & Chris: Although a lot of flights to Atlanta normally pass through Chicago, this year the arrangements were less forgiving. Although I don't know I would have stayed in Chicago for a day to visit the amazing Gaffa Central again this year (is Steve Fagg impressed yet?) I would have liked to pass through and say hi. To Doug Burks: This is as close as I'm likely to get to Colorado any time soon. You don't happen to live anywhere near Denver, do you? There is a possibility I will be travelling to Seattle in early fall. Dates and times will be announced when available. ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 93 17:31 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Dinosaurs etc. Hello Ecto! I am just returned from the theatre. I saw Jurassic Park. Wow! Those animals were _real_! If that film doesn't get the academy award for special effects, I'll be surprised! Yes, the plot is minimal; yes, the character development is light, but o-my-god, for sheer visceral thrills it was a helzapoppin' film! No "King Kong", but - "Wow. Wow. Wow." Speilberg can still make 'em! In other news, here in Philly today WXPN's World Cafe ran a show which featured an interview with and live music by Loreena McKinnet. I had not heard a lot of her stuff before, but I was very impressed with what I heard. Nice stuff! I'll be back later. I have to quiet down a bit after all the excitement of the film. Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend! Bob L. ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 93 19:11:11 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Hello all! Hello everybody. This is Steve Fagg here writing yu all from Gaffa Central in Chicago, courtesy Chris 'n' Vickie. Mitch is here too & Chip was around earlier on. I just dropped by on my way back to the UK from a couple of days in Rochester, NY on business. On my way over here from O'Hare Vickie made sure I got to see the essential parts of the Downtown area. We also spent a while going round the Loop on the 'L', so I consider I've now "done" Chicago. While over here at Chris 'n' Vickies I learned what Pizza should realy be like. It's nothing like the so-called "Chicago-style" pizza we get in London! I'm just about to leave for the airport again, but before I go I want to say a special thank you to Al Sodoma for treating me to a much-needed beer break yesterday evening when my brain was beginning to unravel from all the business meetings. Bye... Vickie here, we also saw the "Cool Thing" but Steve will tell you about it when he gets back to Merry Old... ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 20:30:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Playlists Hi! Hey Vickie, why don't you post your playlists every week? If it wouldn't be too much trouble, that is... I remember when you used to post them religiously on Love-Hounds, and from them I got a lot of good ideas for my own shows. Just a thought. And see FRIED GREEN TOMATOES, like, tonight. Go rent it now. That's an Order. :) Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 20:40:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Re: Ingrid 'n' Aimee 'n' me Hi! Yep, Ingrid sings in Latvian when not in English... she grew up in a Latvian family in Chicago. Aimee Mann is touring this summer? I'm there. Speaking of Peter Gabriel shows, I am spending an INSANE amount of money to see him in Worcester, MA next Saturday (I had no intentions of going but then a friend of mine got me a ticket, so I couldn't very well say no and it will mean a weekend in Boston by a roundabout way, so...). Any other Ectophiles going to be there? I'll be in Boston during the day preceding and on Sunday as well, if anyone would like to get together let me know. Oh yeah, woj will be there too. He won't be going to the concert, but he'll be in Boston looking for something cool to do... shouldn't be too hard. :) And Mike, I too am still really really sorry about that day in New York. We managed to meet some people in the City last night, so it can be done! Next time... :) Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1993 21:25:13 -0400 (EDT) From: consid Subject: Swing the Statue I saw a copy of Victoria Williams' Swing The Statue CD in a nearby record store's dollar bargain bin. Anybody interested? If so, email me. -Sue Trowbridge * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Threw my youth away now I want yours consid@access.digex.net -The Loud Family ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 93 22:35:55 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: in memorium sometimes i just feel like i'm in a depeche mode song. its been a weird day all around, and i've been feeling just a little, well, a little *something* all day, which i attributed to not enough sleep, or too much work, or whatever. the cue that it would be a bad night came when i hit a bird on the offramp of the highway on the way home. knowing that you shouldn't feel guilty because there was nothing you could do to avoid it just makes you more guilty. there were three very distraught messages on the machine when i got in. i only met Batch once. his name was john (i think) batchelor, but he was really just batch. i met him at the party where i first became involved with emily (who i'm still with, even tho she's in woodstock now). he was very tall, maybe 6'5", with really goofy bowling shoes, suspenders and a tweed jacket, long hair, and very beautiful in an almost naively dorky way. we talked philosophy (him being a phil major, and me being a disgruntled philosopher) at great length, but eventually we both became distracted by other, more physical things. i had heard of him long before, tho, back when emily and he slept together, and then he told her that since they'd slept together, they could no longer be friends and then didn't talk to her for weeks. as fucked up as batch was, he was still one of emily's closest friends, and they eventually worked this out. batch dropped out of school sometime last summer and just disappeared. he left no forwarding address, no trail. he finally got involved with another man, and moved in with him. on may 30, 1993, his lover injected him with a lethal dose of something, i don't know what. i've never lost someone that i've slept with. after seeing how its hit emily, the thought terrifies me. emily said that she can still hear his voice, but that she's really sad that one day that will fade, and she'll forget. but you never forget the first one. you never forget. brni "watch me forever" -- joy division ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1993 00:31:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Catching up again Hi! kelly whined quite a while ago: }i wish *i* could get connecticut radio stations :( why is it }called champagne jam? Um, well... In the not-so-distant past when WFIT in Melbourne, Florida was one of the better radio stations on the planet, there was a show on Wednesday evenings called Champagne Jam, which featured much of what I am into music-wise, hosted by a woman who really knew what she was talking about (and was also a rabid Katefan to boot). She went away- I think she got married to some musician and went on the road with him, or something like that. With it went her show. I started at Wesleyan and got my license, and when I got a show I had to come up with a name. Since the Champagne Jam had been such a good show but was no more, I decided to take the name and, hopefully, continue in the same spirit. So, Misty, wherever you are, I hope you don't mind. :} I asked her once where the name came from, and she said it was from some Atlanta Rhythm Section song. I have since tried in vain to find the song in question- anybody out there who can help? (Yeah, so it's not original. Shoot me.) }8.5....to go with the 5'8.5 why do we want shoe sizes? Jeffy tells the story so much better than I can, even though I was there and he wasn't... :) Well, I now have a new stereo. Up until now I have been enjoying music on a series of good boom-boxes, the latest being a Sony CD box I got when I went to Germany, and it has served me quite well as they all have, but... sonic limitations, you know. So I finally bit the bullet and got a Sony bookshelf affair with CD, double tape, the works. It even has an alarm feature... I am seriously considering moving it into my bedroom and setting it to turn on "Waking The Witch" at 7:30 every morning, but I'm not sure that would be such a good idea. So now I am enjoying EQUIPOISE in all its glory, and... wow. I mean, Wow. I'm just having one religious experience after another (or, as Valerie Nozick, who will be rejoining us hopefully Real Soon Now, calls it, a "Happy Moment" :). Of course, the first thing to see play on the machine was THE DREAMING, but EQUIPOISE was next in line! In between I enjoyed improved radio reception with WPKN in Bridgeport, which on Saturday evenings features a show very similar to my own. I called the DJ, Binnie Klein, to offer to drive down to the station and lend her my copy of the TOYS soundtrack, since she had just mentioned seeing the movie last night and noticing a Tori Amos song in the soundtrack, which she desperately wanted to play but couldn't find in the record library, but she said she'd settle for a tape of it from me instead. When I said I'm a DJ myself, she asked me include a tape of my show. :) I asked her to play Happy, but she didn't. Hopefully she will next time. I called her rather late in the show. Her playlist was great... woj will be happy to learn she played a song from The Affordable Floors' new album, followed by Bow Wow Wow's "I Want Candy", which is possibly one of my top five favorite songs ever. All in all, an enjoyable listening experience- if any of you are in the area, tune in 89.5 FM in Bridgeport from 6-10PM on Saturdays. At 8:00 she reads a short story. :) Speaking of radio, last night woj and I were in the car listening to WFMU out of East Orange, NJ, and heard a wonderfully weird psychedelic piece with bizarre female vocals. We figured it was from 1969 or 1970, and woj guessed it was the band Grace Slick was with before Jefferson Airplane, since at times it sounded a lot like her. When the DJ finally got around to back-announcing, I almost died- it was *Judy Collins*!!! I need to know what album this was from- it had to do with death I think, it certainly mentioned the devil more than a few times, and it really sounded like something Jefferson Airplane would have come up with in a weirder moment. Definitely not later than 1971. If this is representative of the entire album, I must seek it out and claim one for my own... can anyone help me? Sliding into oblivion with acute aural gratification, Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 13 Jun 93 17:02 GMT0BST-1 From: Tim Cook Subject: Songs! Heard an interesting version of "Don't Give Up" on the radio the other day with Willie Nelson and Sinead O'Connor. Also heard a high-energy version of Wuthering Heights (it wasn't tooo bad). tim ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 13 Jun 93 12:53:05 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) meredith says: > >(Yeah, so it's not original. Shoot me.) > sorry, i can't. i'm one of the few americans without a gun. :> >Well, I now have a new stereo. Up until now I have been enjoying >music on a series of good boom-boxes, the latest being a Sony CD >box I got when I went to Germany, and it has served me quite well >as they all have, but... sonic limitations, you know. So I >finally bit the bullet and got a Sony bookshelf affair with CD, >double tape, the works. It even has an alarm feature... I am >seriously considering moving it into my bedroom and setting it >to turn on "Waking The Witch" at 7:30 every morning, but I'm not >sure that would be such a good idea. > probably not. it would be sure to induce acute psychosis after a few weeks. i recommend pink floyd's _dark side of the moon_. it starts out real mello and lulls your sleeping body into a false sense of security, then suddenly..... it works every time. >Sliding into oblivion with acute aural gratification, > >Meredith >meth@delphi.com > brni mojzes@monet.vill.edu ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: Ectomeeting and PG. Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 12:54:16 +1000 (EST) MJM (sounds like a movie studio ...) says ... > > Well it seems my luck in meeting ectophiles is on a > definite downswing these days. I really really wanted to meet > Woj and Meredith and I am *still* really bumming that those plans > got boffoed for such a stupid inexcusable reason. Blechhhhhh! > Now it looks like I will miss The Duffmeister in is (very short) > layover in Chicago... too bad, I could have driven him around town > if I had been able to join him and the folks from gaffa-central. > So Steve, you'll just *have* to plan a longer visit sometime > (and ditto for the rest of ya). > And if any of you want to come to Melbourne, make sure you let me know :). Or if you'll be in Holland sometime in the next year, let me know that too. And if I end up being able to stop along in the US on my way to Holland, I'll let you know, Mike :). > I'm still looking for a fellow PG fan to go to the PG concert, July 11, > in Chicago with. It's a steep $35, and if I have to pay for 2 (I bought > two tix) then that other person had better really appreciate it. > Any ectolytes interested? > I think if I told you how much I was interested, you'd be trying very hard to escape the ramblings of someone who closely resembled a gorilla who's just been told that his pants are on fire, and is jumping around horribly until he realises that he doesn't actually _wear_ pants, and that he's just been conned by a low good for nothing human again, and gee the things he'd really like to do to him. This is very silly. Just in case you hadn't noticed :} I wish I was going to be in Chicago on July 11 .... Chris. -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 13 Jun 93 23:41:40 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: money is a fiction, after all i'm not quite sure how much i spent today, since my cd purchases were spread between 4 stores: noise pollution, the record exchange, digital underground, and tower. i tend to buy music rarely, and then splurge in a big way. today i splurged. warren zevon - mr. bad example loreena mckennitt - the visit pj harvey - rid of me donald fagan - kamakiriad gong - you the cure - disintegration the legendary pink dots - malachai (shadow weaver pt 2) front 242 - front by front david baerwald - triage but the most important one, one which i've been searching for for a long long time, but couldn't find, and managed to find used vinyl today: gary numan - dance mick karn plays bass on the numan album, and its really some of the bass playing i've heard. a lot of the time the bass carries the melody. i had a tape of it a long time ago, and it got eaten, but only after the album itself became unavailable. sigh. _disintegration_ my roommate has, or rather, i have it, but can now give it back to him. i would count it among one of the "great albums of all time", and among the 3 really good cure albums (the other 2 are _the head on the door_ and _pornography_). _you_ is a great album. i have a tape of a tape of a tape of it, so the sound quality could be a bit better and i didn't listen to it much because of that. unfortunately, at the time when i got into gong, the albums were nowhere to be found, so i had to take what i could get. the david baerwald is really good. i've listened to most of it. its very political, as can be seen from the dedication, which reads: "this record is dedicated to dean acheson, paul nitze, john j. mccloy, john foster dulles, allen dulles, henry kissinger, james baker III, and george bush in the sincere hope that there is a God and that He is vengeful beyond all comprehension." i haven't heard the rest of them yet, but will soon. :) still looking for mouth music, but it seems to have vanished from philadelphia. good night, all brni xxxooo ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 02:10:12 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: six digests of replies and reviews to boot! Like I have said, PJ Harvey reminds me very much of Siouxsie and the Banshees before they sold out. (ok, I have a loose definition of sold out, but I see a similarity to the old, old days...Metal Postcard, Suburban Relapse, My Love Is Like an Oasis...) Dennis Parslow You know, it's 90% of the politicians Troy, NY 12180 who give the other 10% a bad name p00421@psilink.com (heard on Paul Harvey) ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1993 17:02:20 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: belated introductions, happy vs kate, and etc. In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <9306120427.AA15254@monet.vill.edu___>, you wrote: > called happy a goddess. well, i talked to her yesterday, and she > now owns VI and ecto on disk, and will be getting the rest when > she can. and then, sounding sorta timid and guilty, she said > "um, actually, uh, i may even like her better than kate. i feel > like a traitor." there is no better compliment (no matter how > wrongheaded, for there are none that can surpass Kate). :-) Sound familiar, Uli? (grin). I am willing to admit that I, too, like Happy's music far better than Kate's. Sorry gaffans... :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "Something about this place makes me lose a grip on time and space..." - Saint Etienne ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)