Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1180 ecto, Number 1180 Wednesday, 13 July 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* strange triumph for the day Re: strange deja-vu weirdness... Re: strange Milla & nykelharpa Whence "ectophile"? Re: Whence "ectophile"? Unsubscribe Infinity Sarah McLachlan Re: counting crows Re: nykelharpa Re: Whence "ectophile"? Re: Milla in Seattle Ecto classified ads -- 11 Jul 1994 Hr5 spotted in Dallas ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:17:01 -0600 (MDT) From: "all together now, in no man's land" Subject: strange I just received a copy of ecto #1177, but I'm on bounce format (strange) . . . Even stranger, the return path was listed as `nobody@ns1.rutgers.edu.' hmmmmm -Janet ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 20:53:49 -0400 (EDT) From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Subject: triumph for the day Hi! Just wanted to report that the show on WPKN right now is ecto heaven (Iris DeMent, Kristen Hersh, Sheila Chandra, etc.), so I called to request some Happy. The dude playing all this wonderful stuff had never heard of her, so I made him find the station's copy of _Equipoise_ (the copy of _Warpaint_ I arranged to have them sent over a year ago seems to have walked away, since it's no longer on their library list :P) and play "I Say". He is now in the process of raving about Happy to all of Southern Connecticut. Excuse me, but I have to call him back and tell him that yes, that *was* just one person singing. :) Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== From: "Ralph A. Pincus" Subject: Re: strange Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 21:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Janet reported... > I just received a copy of ecto #1177, but I'm on bounce format > (strange) . . . Even stranger, the return path was listed as > `nobody@ns1.rutgers.edu.' Me, too. Even stranger: I just got a bounce of Brad's original post Re: The Roches dated *JUNE 26th*. Deja Vu? or Vuja De? (as George Carlin used to say). --Josh (who just heard Happy's acoustic version of "Feed The Fire" for the first time -- goosebump city!) ======================================================================== From: Philip Sainty Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 14:06:42 +1200 Subject: deja-vu weirdness... ian barland wrote: > At a recent intro-psych class lecture I sat in on, the prof was talking > about how (30yrs or whatever ago, when sawing the lid of somebody's skull > off was acceptable treatment for some ailings) stimulating specific parts of > somebody's brain would produce specific sensations: an itch on the leg, a very > specific memory, etc. Also apparently a "deja-vu center" was found (in at > least one person's brain): "Wait doctor, I'm suddenly feeling a sense of > deja-vu...I've been here before!" "You mean in a hospital with the top of > your head opened up?" "Yes!" so stimulation of this part of your brain generates artificial 'memories' similar (if not identical) to your present situation, making you believe that the current event(s) have happened to you before...? a simple way to show that this was not always the case would be if you weren't alone at the time of the original event, and you were able to ask another person about it (certainly not all deja-vu experiences could be due to this for the simple reason that coincidences happen, but if this part of the brain exists, it certainly makes for an interesting pondering point... unfortunately, whenever I begin thinking about such things as this, time-travel, existensialism, and the like, I just end up bewildering myself :) Philip _ _ ___ _ _ _ (_ / | / \ |_) |_| | | (_ Philip Sainty (_ \_ | \_/ | | | | |_ (_ psainty@comp.vuw.ac.nz -------------------------------------------------------------- "This is where I want to be, this is what I need." --Kate Bush ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 22:20:19 -0400 (EDT) From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Subject: Re: strange Hi! Interesting, I got the same thing. But it was addressed to me and cc:d to the other ectophiles from delphi (ha ha, now I know who you all are ;), so I thought it was some strange delphic phenomenon. Hm........ Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 01:11:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael K Curry Subject: Milla & nykelharpa > wild! a nykelharpa! (a what?!?) Many thanks woj! I thought I'd never be able to actually know what that "fiddle" was. I re-posted your answer over on rfn. > meredith and i are still miffed that milla decided to can the late show > of that rock cruise last friday. just thought i'd let you all know that > so you could share in our disgruntlement (fret not, i am not a postal > worker). Well... maybe you can catch her on 8/15 at the Mercury Lounge in NYC. I wonder why she cancelled the second cruise. Of course, it could have been the cruise organizers who cancelled it due to boat problems or something. Mike *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* | Michael Curry / mcurry@world.std.com / CIS: 70372,3563 | | | | "You see you always find my faults faster than you find | | your own." - Tori Amos | | "How can I be telling you my thoughts my love, when even | | I don't know what I'm thinking?" - Milla | |+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++| | Reaching-From-Nowhere -- The Milla Mailing List | | reaching-from-nowhere-request@world.std.com | *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ======================================================================== From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Whence "ectophile"? Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 23:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Here's a minor question that I've sort of wondered about for a while. But I don't believe I've seen the answer anywhere... Who invented the word ectophile? Does anyone remember? Or did it sort of spring out of the ectoplasm years ago? Or was it a sort of parallel evolution? The reason I wonder is because I notice Happy thanks the "ectophiles" on her album "Ecto." Now this I find deeply mystifying because I was always under the belief that the name of the list comes from the album. And thus fans of Happy get their name from that. Buuuut... how can it be that she thanks ectophiles on the very album whence the name "ecto" came?! Can Happy see into the future? (talking about non-linear timelines) Is my copy of the CD a re-release? Was there a song named "Ecto" prior to the release of the album? I'm baffled! :) I must be missing something obvious here... - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== From: Philip Sainty Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 19:30:49 +1200 Subject: Re: Whence "ectophile"? Neil writes: > The reason I wonder is because I notice Happy thanks the "ectophiles" > on her album "Ecto." Now this I find deeply mystifying because I was > always under the belief that the name of the list comes from the > album. And thus fans of Happy get their name from that. Buuuut... how > can it be that she thanks ectophiles on the very album whence the name > "ecto" came?! "Ecto", and all the albums prior to "Warpaint" (if I remember rightly) were originally released only on tape, and it was due to this list and the members of the time that the earlier albums were ever released on disc, hence Happy's note of thanks! Philip (who hopes he got that right :) _ _ ___ _ _ _ (_ / | / \ |_) |_| | | (_ Philip Sainty (_ \_ | \_/ | | | | |_ (_ psainty@comp.vuw.ac.nz -------------------------------------------------------------- "This is where I want to be, this is what I need." --Kate Bush ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:23:36 +0100 From: Terry Partis Subject: Unsubscribe Please unsubscribe me from the ecto list for a couple of weeks I'll be back again soon Chow for now Terry ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 17:12:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Sampson Subject: Infinity Hi, all, Is it me or is Matthew Broderick not such a great actor. Was he *ever* a hearthrob? He was, IMHO, the weak link in "Glory", and many other movies (Though I never saw Ferris Bueller's Day Off). He's always so obviously acting....by which, I mean, he never makes you forget that that he's acting. I know next to nothing about Richard Feynman (though my neighbor is trying to get me to read a book about him, and will eventually succeed), but I can't think of any role he's played well...what? Torch Song Trilogy? Master Harold and the Boys? Anyway, I must be getting cranky to go on at such length about him. Please, nobody, take any personal offense. I'm gonna go home, eat, and sleep. Goodnight. Chris Sampson ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 09:57:00 -0230 From: Patrick Martin Subject: Sarah McLachlan I am looking for anything about Sarah McLachlan. If you have audio, picutres, text, etc...anything that deals with her in any way, shape or form...mail it to me. patrick http://web.cs.mun.ca/~patrick #=============================================================================# # patrick@mercury.cs.mun.ca => The Loner man runs WILD. # # # # Our program, who art in memory, HELLO by thy name, # # Forgive us our I/O errors as we forgive those whose logic circuits are # # faulty. # # Load us not into frustration,and deliver us from power surges. # # For thine is the algorithm, the application and the solution, # # looping forever and ever. RETURN.'" # #=============================================================================# ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 10:33:42 +1200 From: stafford_u@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz Subject: Re: counting crows Ooh, I know where that rhyme comes from! Pick me! It's a traditional nursery rhyme... I've always thought it was used for counting sneezes though. Ah well... back to lurker mode once more... Urs. :) -- Urs Stafford (stafford_u@ix.wcc.govt.nz, whiskers@scfbbs.vuw.ac.nz) Also known as whiskers or Becca on #ecto... :) ======================================================================== From: Anders.Hallberg@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Hallberg) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:29:39 +0200 Subject: Re: nykelharpa >>>>> "woj" == we are penguins writes: Michael K Curry sez about milla's band: Michael> His instrument was sort of like a violin, with an oddly Michael> shaped body, too many strings, and rows of wooden keys that Michael> came out of one side. He played this instrument with a bow Michael> in his right hand, while his left manipulated the keys. When Michael> someone asked him later what he called it he said, "I call it Michael> a fiddle." :) woj> wild! a nykelharpa! (a what?!?) woj> a nykelharpa is a swedish instrument that has about a 700 year woj> history. it's a keyed fiddle and has one of the most gorgeous woj> sounds i've ever heard. Cool, my dad built two of those. They had black and white keys just like a piano. F.y.i. "nyckel" = key in swedish and "harpa" = harp. As far as I can recall they had four pairs of strings of which one was played with the keys and one for was for resonance. There were four rows of keys, one for each pair of strings. Each key had a little wodden pin that would touch the nearer string when the key was pressed. The upper keys had holes in them with the pins of the lower keys sticking up through them. My ASCII art is not what it should be but this is one column of keys seen from the side at a 90 degrees angle to the strings. o o || o o || o o || o o || ___ || ___ || ___ || ____||______________ |___ || ___ || ___ || ____________________| <- press here ___ || ___ || ____||_____________________ |___ || ___ || ___________________________| ___ || ____||____________________________ |___ || __________________________________| ____||___________________________________ |_________________________________________| -- \aha PS Someone in Stockholm asked where to find Happy CDs. Did you get my answer? I posted it to ecto but it never bounced back to me. Are you supposed to receive your own posts to the list? DS ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Whence "ectophile"? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 09:45:49 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Neil sez: >Here's a minor question that I've sort of wondered about for a while. >But I don't believe I've seen the answer anywhere... > >Who invented the word ectophile? Does anyone remember? Or did it sort >of spring out of the ectoplasm years ago? Or was it a sort of parallel >evolution? I don't recall who first used 'ectophile' but it was probably a result of ecto being spawned from love-hounds, the readers of which used to be occasionally referred to as 'philocanines' (did anybody other than IED ever use that?) >The reason I wonder is because I notice Happy thanks the "ectophiles" >on her album "Ecto." Now this I find deeply mystifying because I was >always under the belief that the name of the list comes from the >album. And thus fans of Happy get their name from that. Buuuut... how >can it be that she thanks ectophiles on the very album whence the name >"ecto" came?! Philip has already explained that the CD is a re-release of the original tape. I'm posting largely because Philip expressed concern that he might have the story wrong; he doesn't. When ecto got going back in June 1991, it was possible to buy 5 Happy albums on tape and one album on CD -- Warpaint. The 1st4 tapes were pretty wild; the cover art were actually photographic prints that were cut to fit and then glued to a generic tape insert. The song titles were printed (typewritten?), xeroxed, and glued to the inside of the cover. Everything was put together by hand. Warpaint was the first professionally produced cassette. At one time, it was thought that the 1st4 would *never* be released on CD. It was pretty amazing news when we found out that it would happen. The CDs didn't actualy make it out until May of '92, 11 months after ecto started. We were rather pleased when Happy mentioned us in the liner notes. Your question would have been answered by look at Volumes I or II: "Thanks to: [...] and to all of the Ectophiles, for inspiring the re-release of my back catalog." Vickie (the original EctoMa) received an earlier thanks, getting mentioned in the liner notes of Warpaint. Jeff ======================================================================== From: Mklprc@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 09:51:44 EDT Subject: Re: Milla in Seattle I will be driving up for her appearance at the Crocodile in early August (barring lightning bolts, earthquakes, a local appearance by Kate Bush) and I am curious -- how many of us from the NW will also be going? I plan to get there at least 2 hours before the show to get good seats and unsold tickets. So far, it seems that the club does not sell advanced tickets, but that may change. I will keep pestering them. (This evening, Monday, the phone was answered by a 'bot.) Any Seattlites have info on the club? Michael Pearce ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 09:01:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Burks Subject: Ecto classified ads -- 11 Jul 1994 ECTO CLASSIFIED ADS 11 Jul 1994 Editor -- Doug Burks Please check your ads and send me any changes, additions, or deletions! For full information, see the classified FAQ, available from the editor. >>>> MUSIC WANTED CD's wanted [for a start :) ] for trade or purchase: any by Pamela Golden (except for _Happens All the Time_) any by Area any by Moon Seven Times (except for _Moon Seven Times_) any by Gyan Contact: Doug Burks 6 Mar 94 Manfred Mann's Earth Band -- I Who Have Nothing (single). For purchase or trade. I'd even be happy with a tape dub! Contact: Klaus Kluge 16 Feb 94 CD's wanted (for trade or purchase) Bel Canto - any cd singles with non-lp tracks Cranes - Inescapable (cd single) Earwig - any cd singles with non-lp tracks Innocence Mission - any cd singles with non-lp tracks Margot Smith - Adored (cd single) Tribe - Here at Home, Joyride (cd single), Payphone (cd single) Contact: Art Liestman 22 Feb 94 CD's wanted for purchase or trade: Robyn Hitchcock - _I Often Dream of Trains_ Contact: Emily Breed 1 Mar 94 Music wanted: Devils Wielding Scimitars -- either album. Can use more than one of each...I have some desparate friends as well! CD's Brenda Kahn -- _Goldfish Don't Talk Back_ (CD preferred) Contact: Dennis G Parslow 20 May 94 CD copy of Sinead O'Connor's UK single version of "The Emperor's New Clothes." This single also has two mixes of "I Am Stretched On Your Grave" (which is what I'm *really* anxious to get). Contact: Sam Warren 17 Jun 94 >>>> MUSIC AVAILABLE Happy Rhodes albums available for sale or trade: Contact: [your name would look nice here! :) ] Tape dubbing project. Cassette tapes: miscellany related to Happy Rhodes, various samplers, and Ecto projects, available for sale (or possibly trade). Contact: Doug Burks 6 Feb 94 Duplicates availlable for trade (preferred) or sale: _Cherish the Day_ -- Sade (CD single with 4 different versions (sade remix short version, sade remix long version, ronin remix, pal joey remix)) _Crucify_ -- Tori Amos (CD single, standard German vs. with Crucify (remix), Here. in my head, Mary and Crucify (LP vers.), still shrink- wrapped) _Human Behaviour_ -- bjork (CD single with 5 different versions (Original, "Close To Human", Underworld Mix, Dom T. Mix, Bassheads Edit), still shrink-wrapped) _Worldstars for Freedom_ -- various artists (CD with PG&KB's Don't Give Up as well as 14 other titles by other artists, track listing available on request) _The Kick Inside_ -- Kate Bush (US LP (SW-17003), country&western cover, mint except for a bit of price sticker glue) _Sat In Your Lap/Lord Of The Reedy River_ -- Kate Bush (NL 7", not mint, ask) Contact: Uli Grepel 17 Apr 94 _Y Kan't Tori Read_ Good quality tape copies of my CD. For costs (tape+ postage). Or I'll trade tapes. Contact: Uli Grepel 10 Feb 94 Y Kant Tori Read - Good quality copies onto cassette (Dolby B or C, HX Pro), DAT or MiniDisc. If you live in this part of the world and are after a cassette copy, or if you want a DAT or MD copy, then drop me some mail. Airmail postage for a cassette to the US is about $3 plus packaging (75c), DAT and MD are lighter and probably cheaper. Contact: Anthony Horan 9 May 94 The following discs are for sale. Email to reserve or query. Kate Bush | Eat the Music single | $4 ppd Kate Bush | Rubberband Girl single | $7 ppd singles from "The Red Shoes" Ingrid Chavez | Elephant Box single | $4 ppd dance-y spoken word remixes Terry Hall | The Collection | $9 A best of from a member of the Specials, Fun Boy Three, The Colourfield Kashtin | Kashtin | $9 ppd Inuit pop (sounds much like Gypsy Kings) Lava Hay | With a Picture in Mind | $9 ppd Female pop duo from Nettwerk in Vancouver, B.C. Maestro Subgum and the Whole | Lost Lost Lost | $8 ppd Jazzy, blusey fun Paw | Jessie single | $3 ppd Slacker rock Sebadoh | Bubble and Scrape | $9 ppd SubPop Sandie Shaw | Nothing Less Than Brilliant single | $4 ppd 4 different songs, inc. a Smiths cover Sun 60 | Only (sealed) | $10 ppd alternative pop Tall Tales and True | Shiver | $4 ppd Aussie Pop Cassell Webb | House of Dreams | $9 ppd Folky, dreamy pop X | Hey Zeus! | $9 ppd Their latest Contact: Neile Graham 16 May 94 Moon Seven Times - 7=49 Removed from the wrapper 74 minutes ago (playing time 73 min's). I would be most grateful to have anyone remove it from my life post haste. Was purchased for $13.95, please make an offer. Contact: Chuck 17 May 94 Lisa Cerbone|self-titled|Sudden Place Records Beautiful music with a voice like an angel's. Her lyrics will haunt and surprise you. "A voice-to-watch" The Washington Post. CDs are $12.00. Contact: Eric Jensen 28 Jun 94 >>>> ECTO GATHERINGS -- none -- >>>> CONCERT GATHERINGS Anyone planning on attending this weekend's free concert in Philly, with Sarah and the October Project: Let's all try to get together! I'll be attending Saturday for certain (That's Sarah day!). We should co-ordinate in some way to form an ecto-contingent! Contact: Robert Lovejoy 11 Jul 94 >>>> PERSONAL ANNOUNCEMENTS HAPPY CARDS are business cards that have Happy's name, the Aural Gratification address and her entire CD catalog. They are great to give to people who you want to "convert". :) I am sending 20 of them to anyone who wants them. To get a batch, send me a self addressed stamped envelope (legal size is best) and I'll send them to you. (Foreign members can send an International Reply Coupon.) If I run out of cards, I will have more printed up. Contact: John Sandoval 9015 Thamesmeade Rd #B Laurel, MD 20723 27 Apr 94 Awaiting your submissions as editor, I remain ... Doug Burks _O_ @>->--- dbx@connected.com |< She really is!! ======================================================================== From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Hr5 spotted in Dallas Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 09:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Hey guys, I was browsing through a local used cd shop and ran across, *surprise*, a copy of HR^5, Happy's promo sampler. Granted, it was filed under the 'H's, and when I told the guy it was filed wrong, he looked it up and said, "You're right, It's supposed to be under New Age". *Gasp* Well, I straightened him out very quickly. Anwyay, it's $6.91, which with tax comes to $7.50, and with postage, becomes $9.00. I can go buy this if anyone missed their chance and wants to be a completist. By the way, I have a car for sale if anyone is interested as well.. ;) Lemme know, br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)