Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1173 ecto, Number 1173 Friday, 8 July 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* ack!! ack!! SF-area ectophiles - want free tix for midnight reggae cruise? Basia re: Slaughterhouse Five Seen on a magazine display Re: My path to "Happy"-ness Re: Milla & Roches Re: Slaughterhouse Five Re: Seen on a magazine display Re: Seen on a magazine display happy, music finds, etc... ack!! "As a point of interest/Please spell our last name 'R-O-C-H-E'" Re: Basia Re: Basia Positive boofda Flash Girls Martha and the Muffins Re: Positive boofda ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 14:57:39 -0600 (MDT) From: "all together now, in no man's land" Subject: ack!! i just returned from my friendly neighborhood music store, Ground Zero, where, to my amazement, i found a copy of "Y Kan't Tori Read" _USED_ in CD . . . this, in the small town of Laramie, Wyoming! i guess good things _do_ come to those who wait . . . *smile* Janet ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 13:17:12 PDT From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: ack!! "all together now, in no man's land" writes: > i just returned from my friendly neighborhood music store, Ground Zero, > where, to my amazement, i found a copy of "Y Kan't Tori Read" _USED_ > in CD . . . > > this, in the small town of Laramie, Wyoming! i guess good things _do_ > come to those who wait . . . Wait until you listen to it. Few people I've talked to think that _Y Kant Tori Read_ is a particularly good thing . . . ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:58:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Emily Breed Subject: SF-area ectophiles - want free tix for midnight reggae cruise? I won two tickets for a midnight reggae cruise on the Bay this Friday night, but unfortunately Dave & I will be out of town. Anyone interested? Let me know... -- Emily ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 18:16:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Warren Subject: Basia >Hello... a friend heard the name "basia" somewhere and wanted to know if >anyone here knows who she is (musical artist obviously ;) So, does >anyone know? Basia (giving her last name the old college try) Trztrzlewska has three albums and one EP: Time and Tide London Warsaw New York Brave New Hope (EP) The Sweetest Illusion ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:31:04 -0700 From: "ian barland (derivative deriver)" Subject: re: Slaughterhouse Five Albert Philipsen writes: | Bob the cloudbuster writes: | >Actually, Slaughterhouse Five does not use a commonly held view of time | >travel. | >In a sense, it has no time travel. It deals with a character that | >is randomly pops into his own consciousness throughout various points in his | >life. Yes, the life/time line is linear, but he has no control over the | >"excursions" and retains full awareness of each "trip". Therefore, he knows | >of his adult life while still in early childhood, etc. | | Hmm... I can relate to that. I sometimes feel like I'm experiencing | something from the past or the future, ... | Is this a daydream topic other people sometimes have? (For instance, I know several people who (also) fantasize about being able to effortlessly fly.) A scenario I sometimes wonder about: What if my current consciousness/knowledge is transferred to me-when-i-was-younger (say, in elementary school, or finishing hish school, or ...)? I still have free will, but I also have knowledge of a possible future. Problems arise in probably wanting to keep this forknowledge secret (so you don't get mobbed by scientists trying to explain your prescience), but do I have an obligation to try to convince people away from major catastrophes I remember (plane crashes, wars starting, S&L failures...)? Would I try to get my parents to invest in certain companies? What would I do to avoid being totally bored in school? I've mentioned this thought topic to a couple of friends, and they just raise their eyebrows. What do y'all think about when you're sitting around waiting for something? the other(?) ian -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ian barland (ucsc cis grad) ian@cse.ucsc.edu (from a fortune cookie:) Anyone who makes a blanket statment is a fool. ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 17:58:59 CDT From: Subject: Seen on a magazine display This morning, while killing time in B. Dalton, I looked at the _Bikini_ issue with the article on Milla. Boy, was that a vapid bit of writing. The photos were almost as vapid. Is she that desperate for ink? Remember--you now have almost exactly a week to get your HBP selections in to Doug, and your prepared remarks in to me to read. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 19:37:53 -0400 (EDT) From: WAYNEPALMER@delphi.com Subject: Re: My path to "Happy"-ness Jim: You may be interested in reading the October Project interview that Mary Fahl & David Sabatino gave to Kim Alexander over at WXPN, that was published in 'XPN's member newsletter, the XPRESS. I posted it here a month or so back after I got permission from WXPN to distribute it on the net. I can email you a copy if you want. It's about 7 screens long but answers a lot of the questions people have had about October Project. Glad to see another person going to the Philly weekend. Has anyone figured out any way for some of us to get together at the show? *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=* | Wayne A. Palmer *Ye Olde Florence Train Station* waynepalmer@delphi.com | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WXPN-Music That Needs to be Heard <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< | *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=* ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 19:38:05 -0400 (EDT) From: WAYNEPALMER@delphi.com Subject: Re: Milla & Roches >I'm just curious, but is Milla getting any advertising other than >in ECTO? If I hadn't seen the tour schedule here and on FTE I may have missed seeing her on the 12th at the Tin Angel in Philly. Anyone else going to the show? WXPN has mentioned it a few times but I think I only noticed it because I was curious whether they would mention it. >Yes, indeed. The Roches recorded "The Hallelujah Chorus" on their 1982 (!) >album _Keep On Doing_. The Roches almost always perform this when they do their annual appearance at McCarter theatre in Princeton, NJ. For some reason they didn't do it this year, even though folks were shouting it out when they were asking for requests during their non-encore encore(They make a point of doing away with the ritual of actually leaving the stage in order to do an encore). *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=* | Wayne A. Palmer *Ye Olde Florence Train Station* waynepalmer@delphi.com | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WXPN-Music That Needs to be Heard <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< | *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=* ======================================================================== From: snpf@ugcs.caltech.edu (The Duchess Of York) Subject: Re: Slaughterhouse Five Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 16:53:15 -0800 (PDT) Ian wrote: > > A scenario I sometimes wonder about: What if my current > consciousness/knowledge is transferred to me-when-i-was-younger > (say, in elementary school, or finishing hish school, or ...)? > I still have free will, but I also have knowledge of a possible future. > Problems arise in probably wanting to keep this forknowledge secret > (so you don't get mobbed by scientists trying to explain your prescience), > but do I have an obligation to try to convince people away from major > catastrophes I remember (plane crashes, wars starting, S&L failures...)? > Would I try to get my parents to invest in certain companies? > What would I do to avoid being totally bored in school? > > I've mentioned this thought topic to a couple of friends, and they > just raise their eyebrows. What do y'all think about when > you're sitting around waiting for something? > > (from a fortune cookie:) Anyone who makes a blanket statment is a fool. > There was a comic exploring that...._Shade: The Changing Man_ Oh, sometime last two years. :) Shade was visiting himself as a younger hippie, and also had a younger version too. It was kindof an importation of a consciousness of himself transported to another frame of time (in himself). -seanympf ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 16:51:50 PDT From: hanson@ast.saic.com (Jeffrey Hanson) Subject: Re: Seen on a magazine display I agree whole-heartedly about the Bikini magazine bit. It's hard to think of Milla as being anywhere near Goddesshood after seeing those awful pictures. Almost turned me off her completely--and I almost died when Vicki nominated her for Sisterhood with the other Goddesses. After seeing those pictures its hard to believe there's anything remotely deitic about her. But then I haven't listened to the album since I saw the magazine. Maybe I'm forgetting what's important here. But the video for The Gentleman Who Fell is so classy--I don't know what she was thinking when she did those Bikini pictures. Oh well. I am still looking forward to seeing her live--and hoping they don't cancel the show due to lack of ticket sales. Jeff ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 22:35:23 -0400 (EDT) From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Subject: Re: Seen on a magazine display Hi! I remember reading somewhere (could have been in these pages, I'm not sure) that Milla said the pictures in that Bikini thing were taken 2 years ago, and she's none too happy that they ran the piece like that. I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt on this one. Sounds like a case of artist-gets-manipulated-by-the-industry to me. Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== From: lakrahn@inst.augie.edu (laurel) Subject: happy, music finds, etc... Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:33:56 +22293638 (CDT) Thanx for the birthday well-wishes, 'twas a fine one... :) This past weekend I was at Fourth Street Fantasy Convention in Minneapolis. 'twas smaller than usual (only 120 of us, I think), but incredibly fun. Talk about your intellectual stimulation! Lisa Goldstein was author guest of honor and Rick Berry was artist guest of honor. Both were a delight. Other folks who showed up to be on panels were: Steven Brust, Neil Gaiman, Patrick Nielsen-Hayden, Eleanor Arnason, John M. Ford, and other folks... But anyhow.... music! The music parties were fun... :) And I heard a *wonderful* Happy story... :) Lisa Freitag brought her cd player and a handful of cd's up to the consuite area (in the hopes of combatting the lounge singer downstairs)... and guess which cd's she had? Both Tori albums, Laurie Anderson's "Strange Angels" and WARPAINT by You Know Who. I said "wow! Happy! Cool!" and we ended up sitting on the floor and talking at some length. Lisa is married to Greg Ketter of Dreamhaven Books/Press... and she was telling me how one day she heard a song on the radio and it caught her ear and she *had* to know what it was.... Well, turns out it was a Happy song. And she proceeded to track down as many Happy Rhodes cd's as possible. The irony/beauty of it all is that she's always only listened to classical music. Happy was the catalyst and now friends have thrust the likes of Tori at her. And she just bought the Crow soundtrack. Heh. She thinks it's funny that at her age she is just now discovering The Cure and such... :) Anyhow..... we being actifan in SF/Fantasy Conventions and Lisa having ties to a place such as Dreamhaven.... We wanna have Happy as Music Guest of Honor at Minicon (the *huge* SF con in Minneapolis on Easter weekend)... she's perfect for it with her fantastical art and the themes in her music.... We've already got all sorts of ideas, now we just have to see what it would take to get Happy to come do some shows in the Minneapolis area and then to be at a convention.... :) Vickie or whomever talks to Happy these days, feel free to feel her out on this... I'll be sending her a letter in short order, as well.... :) Oh yeah, I really am the publicist for the Flash Girls. Emma Bull and Lorraine Garland both introduce me as such. I wonder if they won the Minnesota Music award tonight.... Will have to find out... The mailing list for them is soon to come... let me know if you wanna hear about it. :) Neil remembered me even tho he had just returned from a comicon in chicago and was way fried and tired.... kinda cool, he came up to me and said "hello laurel, how've you been" and it went from there... :) just call me fangirl. ;-p This is a really long message... :) Ohyeah! I stopped by a record store up in the Minneapolis area that I hadn't been to in eons.... and found Jane Siberry's THE WALKING on cd for only $2 !!! (Yes, two dollars.... apparently it had been in the cheap used bin for eons and just kept getting marked down... up til now i only had it on tape)... Also got a dream syndicate album for $3 on cd... And the Tori Cornflake Girl Limited Edition thingy with the Joni, Jimi, and Billie covers on it... for $9.99 :) :) :) Colour me a very happy camper...... ohyeah, I bought an espresso machine... :) they had some peter gabriel singles i didn't have yet, but I saved my money... now if i could just get a job, all would be swell-keen... :) -- ::: Laurel Krahn ::: lakrahn@inst.augie.edu :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "there's a ring around the moon, long long time 'til day play me one more tune, please don't go away..." - Greg Brown :::::: GAT d- -p+ c++ l u+ e+ m* s n+(n-) h f+ g+(+++) w+ t+@ r x? ::::::::: ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 03:07:00 UTC Subject: ack!! > Wait until you listen to it. Few people I've talked to think that _Y > Kant Tori Read_ is a particularly good thing . . . Undoubtedly. But it's worth a bundle, from what I've heard. +########################################################################+ +###+ Paul Cohen, Philadelphia, PA +###+ +###+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +###+ +###+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +###+ +###+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +###+ +########################################################################+ ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 20:00:38 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: "As a point of interest/Please spell our last name 'R-O-C-H-E'" It's "Roches" > And, I tried to post a question about the roaches. A >friend heard aversion of Handel's _Messiah_ done by them. Does >anyone have any information on this??? Close. There is a splendid acapella (3-part, of course) treatment of the Hallelujah Chorus available on "Keep On Doin'", and is superb! They also have a Christmas album "We Three Kings", which has, among other "traditional " carols, a breathtaking version of "Break Forth, O Beautieous Heavenly Light" and Handel's "For Unto Us A Child is Born". Dennis Parslow You know what I like about hockey? Troy, NY 12180 I'm on breakaway with the greatest player p00421@psilink.com of all time. You know what I hate? Darryl Strawberry is not a dog. He's not passing to me. A dog is loyal and chases after balls Denis Leary Tom Lasorda ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 19:43:18 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: Basia >DATE: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 18:16:35 -0400 (EDT) >FROM: Sam Warren > >>Hello... a friend heard the name "basia" somewhere and wanted to know if >>anyone here knows who she is (musical artist obviously ;) So, does >>anyone know? > >Basia (giving her last name the old college try) Trztrzlewska >has three albums and one EP: > >Time and Tide >London Warsaw New York >Brave New Hope (EP) >The Sweetest Illusion > What Sam neglects to mention is that Basia is a Pop vocalist, almost Jazz, with a typical electric Jazz-type band behind her. Sam also fails to mention the detail that Time and Tide is one of the better albums in the history of mankind, and that Brave New Hope doesn't offer much new material, so would only be desired by the completist (of course, I am that ;-) I haven't totally assimilated The Sweetest Illusion yet, but it is very nice. I can't say much else yet. Dennis Parslow You know what I like about hockey? Troy, NY 12180 I'm on breakaway with the greatest player p00421@psilink.com of all time. You know what I hate? Darryl Strawberry is not a dog. He's not passing to me. A dog is loyal and chases after balls Denis Leary Tom Lasorda ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Basia Date: Fri, 08 Jul 94 00:29:40 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Dennis writes: >What Sam neglects to mention is that Basia is a Pop vocalist, almost >Jazz, with a typical electric Jazz-type band behind her. And what Dennis fails to mention is that Basia used to be with a band and I'm ripping my hair out trying to remember the name of the band. My step-mother has at least one tape by said band. So what's the name of the band? My step-mother is out of town and I'll probably go crazy if I don't find out... Jeff ======================================================================== From: snpf@ugcs.caltech.edu (The Duchess Of York) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 21:48:48 -0700 Subject: Positive boofda Yeay! I have a job now! :) -seanympf ======================================================================== From: lakrahn@inst.augie.edu (laurel) Subject: Flash Girls Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 23:51:26 +22293638 (CDT) Good news! :) The Flash Girls won the Minnesota Music award for best folk/worldbeat artist/group! :) The awards ceremony was tonight and I just found out... Colour me happy... Congrats to Emma Bull, Lorraine Garland... also to Neil Gaiman (for penning many of their songs) and Will Shetterly (manager, of sorts)... For info on the Flash Girls, drop me some email... -- ::: Laurel Krahn ::: lakrahn@inst.augie.edu :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "there's a ring around the moon, long long time 'til day play me one more tune, please don't go away..." - Greg Brown :::::: GAT d- -p+ c++ l u+ e+ m* s n+(n-) h f+ g+(+++) w+ t+@ r x? ::::::::: ======================================================================== From: Alain.Lachapelle@167-290-33.hexacom.com (Alain Lachapelle) Date: 07 Jul 94 20:15:44 -0500 Subject: Martha and the Muffins Ralph A. Pincus wrote: > "God" by Tori (in 7, or 3+4, or 6+8, depending on how you count it) > "Guppy" by The Moon Seven Times (in 5) > "Always" by October Project (in 5) > Can anybody out there direct me to similar stuff I may not be aware > of? The hyper well-known (not!) Martha and the Muffins, from Canada, would be in that category. Martha's voice would please many ectophiles. An obvious album of them ranging in the style you described would be "The World is a Ball". Tony Levin (bass/stick player, P. Gabriel, King Crimson) even plays on some pieces. There's also "Danseparc" which is very good. Unfortunately, none of these albums are available on CD, as far as I know. There is a compilation, though, but the material in there dates from the early times. There's also the "Modern Lullaby" CD, which is their last (or latest?) but although it is quite good, it's mostly laid back and more straightforward, not having the exuberance of "TWiaB" or the jumpiness of "Danseparc." Also, there's Sunday All Over The World where Toyah Wilcox sings/murmurs/talks over intricate rythmic patterns made by husband Robert Fripp and company. Very nice album but you must know it, undoubtly. > Please don't bother suggesting any of the traditional prog-rock like > Genesis, Yes, KC, Gentle Giant, etc. That's old (though beloved) > ground for me. How about non-traditional? I'd suggest the latest by French band Minimum Vital. A nice album featuring polyrythmic lead lines with a somewhat medieval atmosphere to which smooth, flowing vocals in Olde French are added. Very sunny, bright, the album is also called "Eight Songs of Light." On Musea, the French progrock label, 1993. In even a smoother vein there's this band from Italy, Eris Pluvia, that includes an old folk touch to the smooth contra-puntal (sp? hmmm... counterpoint?) rythms lead mostly by a recorder "Rings of Earthly Light", their 1991 album, is also on Musea. And for strictly instrumental music, there's this superb band from Sweden, Isildurs Bane, that makes a throughly nice and fresh music, often colored by the addition of small ensembles, choirs, and classical trios. I'd suggest their latest, "The Voyage", and their previous, "Cheval - Volonte de rocher." The latter is about Ferdinand Cheval, a French postman from Hauterives who built a the turn of the century, from the stones he picked up during his postal route, a "ideal palace" ("palais ideal") of more than 1000 cube meters. This work took him 33 years. After being denied the right to be buried there by the mayor of the village, he spent another 10 years building a buring place in the cemetary. At the end of his work he died but just before he was recognized by the dadaists (Andre Breton, Salvador Dali). Isildurs Bane music is highly colorful, mostly gentle but also having rockier moments. "The Voyage" is about Swiss eccentric Adolf Woefli, who spent half of his life, the beginning, in a psychiatric institute and then got out and started to write music, to write, to paint, and to travel. Isildurs Bane made again a very endearing music which relies a lot on the Zorn Trio (violin, piano, cello) and on the Halmstad Vokalensemble choir. I don't think it would be far-fetched to assume that this music would sound good in the ears of many ectophiles. And theres a bonus: the double-CD comes in a stylish nice black cardboard box shaped like a suitcase, with a large booklet with notes about the pieces, and various pictures of the times when Woefli lived (1864-1930). The IB discs are available on Isildurs Records, Sweden, through some distributors in the USA, one of them being Ranjit (ranjit@netcom.com - drop him a line for more info) Well, I hope my ravings were interesting to read. Alain al@hexacom.com ============================================== ======================================================================== From: kmorrey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kathleen Morrey) Subject: Re: Positive boofda Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 00:53:31 -0500 (CDT) > > Yeay! I have a job now! :) > -seanympf > CHEER!!!!! big ecto hugs, tell us all the exciting details! -Kath ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)