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                            ecto, Number 1167

                          Tuesday, 5 July 1994

                             Today's Topics:
                           *-----------------*
                                  neat!
                           You know,,,voices.
                           Re: Save Our Souls
                           Milla Mailing List
                           You know,,,voices.
                         Re: You know,,,voices.
                      Resend of SOS with postscript
                      Resend of SOS with postscript
                      Re: Sarah and Milla In Boston
                                 Boingo
                                New Stuff
                             Various Tidbits
                      THE END OF THE WORLD IS NEAR
                        RE:Iris Dement tour dates
                     Today's your birthday friend...

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Subject: neat!
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 94 15:39:57 -0400
From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu

<sound of jeffy's hand hitting his forehead>  Why didn't I notice before?

I'm sitting in my dad's computer room, listening to his disc of Custer
LaRue's _The Daemon Lover_, which I've mentioned here many times.  The
thing is, I don't have a tape of the whole album...just a 5 or 6 that I fit
on at the end of my dub of _Massive Blur_.  So there are songs I've heard a
number of times, but not in the settings in which I really get to know
lyrics.

Suddenly, I realized that some of the words seemed awfully familiar--a
couple of sisters sitting by a river, arguing over a man.  I yanked out the
liner notes, and sure enough, this song, "Binnorie (The Twa Sisters)" is
the source of Loreena's "The Bonny Swan."

Read on!

Binnorie (The Twa Sisters)
Child Ballad No. 10, Version 7
Bruce and Stokoe, _Northumbrian Minstrelsy_, 1882.
Slightly emended by Custer LaRue

There were two sisters sat in a bow'r
  Binnorie, O Binnorie;
There cam a knight to be their wooer
  By the bonny mildams of Binnorie.

He courted the eldest wi' glove and ring,
  Binnorie, &c.
But he lo'ed the youngest aboon a' thing.
  By the bonny, &c.

The eldest she was vexed sair
And sore envied her sister fair.

The eldest said to the youngest ane:
"Will you go and see our father's ships come in."

She's ta'en her by the lily hand
And led her down the river strand.

The youngest strude upon a stane,
The eldest cam' and pushed her in.

"O sister, sister, reach your hand,
And ye shall be heir of half my land."

"O sister, I'll not reach my hand
And I'll be heir of all your land."

"O sister, reach me but your glove
And sweet William shall be your love."

"Sink on, nor hope for hand nor glove,
And sweet William had better be my love."

Sometimes she sunk, sometimes she swam,
Until she cam to the miller's dam.

The miller's daughter was baking bread
And gaed for water as she had need.

"O father, father, draw your dam!
There's either a mermaid or a milk-white swan."

The miller hasted and drew his dam
And there he found a drown'd woman.

Ye couldna see her yellow hair
For gowd and pearls that were sae rare.

Ye couldna see her middle sma'
Her gowden girdle was sae braw.

Ye couldna see her lily feet,
Her gowden fringes were so deep.

A famous harper passing by,
That sweet pale face did chance on to spy;

And when he looked that lady on,
He sighed and made a heavy moan.

He made a harp o' her breast bone,
Whose sounds would met a heart of stone;

The strings he framed of her yellow hair
Their sounds made sad the listening ear.

He's ta'en it to her father's ha',
There were the court assembled a'.

He laid the harp upon a stane,
And straight it began to play alane--

"And yonder sits my father, the king
And yonder sits my mother the queen;

"And yonder stands my brother Hugh,
And beside him my William, sweet and true."

But the last tune that the harp played then
Was -- "Woe to my sister, false Helen."

---------

Now, of course, this is a traditional song, and the source for Loreena's
version may have had some differences.  Over all, I like Loreena's music
better, and the fact that it's a bit shorter (Custer LaRue's version is a
bit monotonous).  I like the lyrics of this one better, though.  Either
way, it's a great piece...

Jeff
(someone want to forward this to Old-Ways for me?  dunno the address)

|Jeffrey C. Burka     | "Everything is still with a fear of never coming out |
|Suffering Bad Grammar|  Never following through / Never ever finishing      |
|jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu |  What we wanted to do."  -- Melissa Ferrick          |


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From: snpf@lucid.com (Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson)
Subject: You know,,,voices.
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 14:09:43 -0700 (PDT)

Hi.  This is about the male/female hearing differences.  I feel the
need to 'purify' --uh.  I mean, clarify.  The hearing differences
I was talking about are specifically speaking voices.  I believe
it is psychological more than physiological.  We are trained to
listen more closely to male/deeper voices because this is an authority
figure.

;)
-seanympf


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From: snpf@lucid.com (Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Save Our Souls
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 14:18:01 -0700 (PDT)

Onealien wrote:
<stuff deleted>

> together before we can help you.  She also knows you are indeed
> "Waking Up", as the growth of intellect over the lifespan of the
> Universe is as certain as the decay of Matter.  As Life evolves,
> sentience appears and grows.  Entropy points to the fate of the physical.

You know, I'm not sure I believe _this_ part.  That intellect
grows.  For example, it seems that people 1,000 years ago or
more were as intelligent as we are now.  The individual doesn't
seem to be growing more intelligent.  Also, we can't seem to
get over our violent hump, etc.

I'm not pessimistic!
-seanympf


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From: Stuart Myerburg <smyerbur@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu>
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 94 17:34:39 -0400
Subject: Milla Mailing List

I saw this in alt.music.alternative and thought some of you would be
interested...

Stuart

-----------
*** Reaching-From-Nowhere -- The Milla Mailing List ***

    I have decided to start a mailing list for a new artist who I think

 has a very bright future.  That artist is Milla, whose debut album _The

 Divine Comedy_ has been well recieved by music critics and by fans of

 good music.

    This announcement is an open invitation for anyone who enjoys Milla's

 music to come and join in discussions of her work, her future, other

 artists, and any other topics of interest.  If it were not for the

 favorable opinions of Milla expressed on Really-Deep-Thoughts (the Tori

 Amos mailing list) I would probably never have discovered her, so I don't

 want to restrict the discussions on rfn to just Milla. :)

    For more information on Reaching-From-Nowhere you can send email to
 "majordomo@world.std.com" with a body of:

        info reaching-from-nowhere

    Since the list is just starting out things may be a little slow at
 first, and there may be some repetition of topics as new subscribers join.
 I hope that if you decide to join Reaching-From Nowhere you will be patient
 with the list's growing pains.

 Thanks!

 Mike

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 |   "You see you always find my faults faster than you find   |
 | your own." - Tori Amos                                      |
 |   "How can I be telling you my thoughts my love, when even  |
 | I don't know what I'm thinking?" - Milla                    |
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Date: Sat, 02 Jul 1994 18:04:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: WAYNEPALMER@delphi.com
Subject: You know,,,voices.

 I'm afraid I have to disagree somewhat with Sarah when she says that male
voices are used because psychologically we are trained to listen to the
male voice ie the voice of authority. From a strictly medical end it is
easier to hear a deep modulated male voice. I know several people who have
various levels of deafness, including my father, and all of them have an
easier time understanding a male voice than a female voice. When someone
starts losing their hearing, the ability to hear higher sounds is
usually the first to go. When someone is trying to get their message across,
it would make sense than to have the voice delivering that message be one
that is going to be heard and understood by the greatest amount of people.
Yes, society has over the years equated the male voice with authority, but
let's consider that it may be something as simple as advertisers using a
lower voice to reach the largest audience.

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From: snpf@lucid.com (Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson)
Subject: Re: You know,,,voices.
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT)

Wayne sez:

>  I'm afraid I have to disagree somewhat with Sarah when she says that male
> voices are used because psychologically we are trained to listen to the
> male voice ie the voice of authority. From a strictly medical end it is
> easier to hear a deep modulated male voice. I know several people who have
> various levels of deafness, including my father, and all of them have an
> easier time understanding a male voice than a female voice. When someone
> starts losing their hearing, the ability to hear higher sounds is
> usually the first to go. When someone is trying to get their message across,
> it would make sense than to have the voice delivering that message be one
> that is going to be heard and understood by the greatest amount of people.
> Yes, society has over the years equated the male voice with authority, but
> let's consider that it may be something as simple as advertisers using a
> lower voice to reach the largest audience.
>
Well, this is my point, exactly.  *I* have a hard time hearing
*low* voices.  It is easier for *Me* to hear higher voices.
The study I spoke about before was saying that womyn hear womyn's
voices better, and men hear men's voices better.

So, it wouldn't be the widest audience, it would be men.  Also,
like it or not, in our culture, it is most common for the deeper
male voice to be an authority "" figure.

-seanympf


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Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 20:05:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Lovejoy <onealien@panix.com>
Subject: Resend of SOS with postscript

I'm resending this to the list as the bounces were astronomical! (Hee Hee!)

Hello Humans:
     Honestly, we've been watching you some time, now.  We cannot,
unfortunately, Save Your Souls but we are allowed to tell you that
that is entirely up to you.  You should live and be well.
     There are many of us among you.  This is a beautiful planet but
you guys have a bad rep in the galaxy.  One of our prior emissaries,
C.S. Lewis, described Earth as the "bent" planet.
     Planetary travel on a Universal scale is possible when you
begin to realize it happens between Incarnations.  All Human Beings
actually incarnate between seven planets.  Your Ancient Ones knew
this, and the last recorded example was The Tibetan Book of the Dead.
     But I digress.  All of us "aliens" would like you humans to know
there is hope.   This wonderful list encompasses some of the nicest
things about humans, whilst the six o'clock news shows the rough stuff.
Then there's the bullies and the brutal.  Happy, who is one of us,
knows well of this.  She knows it is up to humans to get their act
together before we can help you.  She also knows you are indeed
"Waking Up", as the growth of intellect over the lifespan of the
Universe is as certain as the decay of Matter.  As Life evolves,
sentience appears and grows.  Entropy points to the fate of the physical.
     Well, gotta go for now!  Peace to everyone and have a great holiday,
              Old Bob, whose nickname in High School was "Wrong World!" :)

PS -  Seanymph quite rightly noted that a thousand years ago, people
were about as brutal as they are now.  The thing is, 1000 years is
the blink of an eye in cosmic time.  It took five million years to get
where we are now, so a little patience is required!!
                    -1alien-


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From: onealien@panix.com (Robert Lovejoy)
Subject: Resend of SOS with postscript
Date: 2 Jul 1994 20:23:09 -0400

I'm resending this to the list as the bounces were astronomical! (Hee Hee!)

Hello Humans:
     Honestly, we've been watching you some time, now.  We cannot,
unfortunately, Save Your Souls but we are allowed to tell you that
that is entirely up to you.  You should live and be well.
     There are many of us among you.  This is a beautiful planet but
you guys have a bad rep in the galaxy.  One of our prior emissaries,
C.S. Lewis, described Earth as the "bent" planet.
     Planetary travel on a Universal scale is possible when you
begin to realize it happens between Incarnations.  All Human Beings
actually incarnate between seven planets.  Your Ancient Ones knew
this, and the last recorded example was The Tibetan Book of the Dead.
     But I digress.  All of us "aliens" would like you humans to know
there is hope.   This wonderful list encompasses some of the nicest
things about humans, whilst the six o'clock news shows the rough stuff.
Then there's the bullies and the brutal.  Happy, who is one of us,
knows well of this.  She knows it is up to humans to get their act
together before we can help you.  She also knows you are indeed
"Waking Up", as the growth of intellect over the lifespan of the
Universe is as certain as the decay of Matter.  As Life evolves,
sentience appears and grows.  Entropy points to the fate of the physical.
     Well, gotta go for now!  Peace to everyone and have a great holiday,
              Old Bob, whose nickname in High School was "Wrong World!" :)

PS -  Seanymph quite rightly noted that a thousand years ago, people
were about as brutal as they are now.  The thing is, 1000 years is
the blink of an eye in cosmic time.  It took five million years to get
where we are now, so a little patience is required!!
                    -1alien-


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Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 22:02:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: Martin Jardon <mjardon@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: Sarah and Milla In Boston

Hey. Anyone know of Sarah or Tori concerts in such cities as St. Louis,
Memphis, Little Rock, Tulsa or KC in the near future?  If so let me
know. I've been pining for one this summer!:)
Martin


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From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com
Date: Sun,  3 Jul 94 04:12:00 UTC
Subject: Boingo

One thing the name change does lead to: idiot store clerks who insist on
filing "Oingo Boingo" and "Boingo" separately.
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 +###+  P.COHEN@genie.geis.com      +###+  PMCOHEN@aol.com            +###+
 +###+  70703.3126@compuserve.com   +###+  PMCOHEN@delphi.com         +###+
 +########################################################################+


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From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com
Date: Sun,  3 Jul 94 04:12:00 UTC
Subject: New Stuff

Well my two favorite acquisitions for the last two weeks is the new Lush
album and the Lisa Germano album.  Does anyone know the reason for Lisa
switching from Capital to 4AD and modifying the album?  And does the new
version of the album have a different version of "Dresses" or am I imagining
things?

Oh, yeah, everybody run out and buy the Lush album.  It's great.  It
definitely is a return to the harder sound they had earlier.
 +########################################################################+
 +###+                  Paul Cohen, Philadelphia, PA                  +###+
 +########################################################################+
 +###+  P.COHEN@genie.geis.com      +###+  PMCOHEN@aol.com            +###+
 +###+  70703.3126@compuserve.com   +###+  PMCOHEN@delphi.com         +###+
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Date: Sun, 3 Jul 94 2:32:06 EDT
From: WretchAwry <vickie@pilot.njin.net>
Subject: Various Tidbits

At this writing I don't know if there are still bounce-backs.
Hopefully not. These are some things in my "Pass On" file and
thought that some of you might be interested. I've left in
attributions, but these are being passed along without permission.

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From: roger@wrq.com (Roger Fulton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.celtic,rec.music.folk
Subject: Loreena McKennitt on Mountain Stage

I just found out from our wonderful local radio station
(KBCS 91.3) that Loreena McKennitt will perform on Mountain
Stage July 22.  On KBCS, this performance will be broadcast
July 30.  Can't wait!!!
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From: davidgrant@aol.com (DavidGrant)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Suzanne Vega online
Date: 21 Jun 1994 10:54:02 -0400

Howdy y'all.

I wanted to point out to anyone who is interested in Suzanne Vega
that she pops up on America Online from time to time, answering
questions, asking questions and just chatting with us in general.

Recently she mentioned the possibility of putting together a
compilation of her singles and non-album material (like "Left of
Center" and "Luka" in Spanish), and we have also put the idea in her
head to do a video compilation to go along with it (several people
had been asking about the availability of videos).

She has been very friendly and talkative, but she doesn't want to
talk about what inspired most of her songs, because she says the
people who inspired the songs would probably hate her if they found
out they were the inspiration...

You can find her folder in the ROCKLINK area, under World Music.
She's posted several notes in the last two weeks.

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To: vickie@pilot.njin.net
From: "Kenneth_R.Josenhans" <13020KRJ@msu.edu>
Subject: Aster/DeMent/Poozies/Varttina

Hi Vickie --

Nothing much to say, but I did want to tell you that Aster Aweke
has a new album out.  It's called EBO.  Don't know that I'm going to
get it, as my interest in African music is down somewhat these days,
but I thought you'd want to know about it.
You probably have it already.  :-)

Kathryn Tickell also has a very nice new album out with her band;
she's a Northumbrian piper, the album is all instrumental.

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From: MEVANS@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Iris DeMent questions and hi to Chri
To: folk_music@nysernet.org, vickie@pilot.njin.net

Iris DeMent Tour dates, as requested:

7/9/94     Worcester     MA     Old Vienna Kaffee Haus
7/10/94     Burlington     VT     Club Metronome
7/11/94     Northampton     MA     The Iron Horse
7/12/94     Northampton     MA     The Iron Horse
7/14/94     New York     NY     Supper Club
7/17/94     Charleston     WV     Mountain Stage
7/19/94     Alexandria     VA     The Birchmere
7/20/94     Norfolk     VA     The Jewish Mother
7/25/94     Blue Hill     ME     Left Bank Cafe
7/26/94     Ogunquit     ME     Jonathon's
7/27/94     Ogunquit     ME     Jonathon's
7/30/94     Providence     RI     Met Cafe
7/31/94     Vineyard Haven     MA     Winter Tide
8/2/94     Toronto     ONT     Ontario Place
8/3/94     Buffalo     NY     The Marquee
8/6/94     Newport     RI     Fort Adams State Park
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Vickie (taking a break, but I love you all too)


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Date:     Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:03:56 MET DST
From: Albert Philipsen <awphili@cs.vu.nl>
Subject:  THE END OF THE WORLD IS NEAR

Do I have your attention? :-)

I don't know if it is a good idea to post this to Ecto, so if it
isn't, please tell me, and I won't do it again.

My problem is that my current job will end in October, and so I
might need a new one.  I love to program computers to do intelligent
things, and I don't mind if I have to move to another country for it.
Please email me if you would like to see the story of my life.

Albert
		"I can do almost anything" -- Happy Rhodes


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Date: Sun, 03 Jul 1994 08:47:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: WAYNEPALMER@delphi.com
Subject: RE:Iris Dement tour dates

Absent from the schedule of Iris Dement tour dates that Vickie posted is the
fact that she will be performing for free on Saturday, July 17th at 3:30 as
part of the Singer/Songwriter weekend at Penns Landing in Philadelphia. I
can't believe it's only two weeks away, I'm really looking forward to seeing
everyone on the schedule this year. Between the Central Park show next
weekend and this, it's going to be a great week for music.

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 | Wayne A. Palmer *Ye Olde Florence Train Station* waynepalmer.delphi.com |
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From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de
Date:          Sun, 3 Jul 1994 06:36:52 CET-1
Subject:       Today's your birthday friend...

                             i*i*i*i*i*i
                           ***************
                           ***HAPPY*******
                         ********BIRTHDAY***
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                       *** Anders Hallberg ***
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Jeanne Schreiter     Tue   January 3	1967	 Capricorn
John Sandoval        Wed   January 4	1967	 Capricorn
Paul Cohen           Tue   January 5	1954	 Capricorn
Tony Garrity         Mon   January 8	1962	 Pool of Life
Greg Bossert         Tue   January 9	1962	 OfTheTimes
Aaron Hawkins        Mon   January 12	1970	 Capricorn
Troy J. Shadbolt     Thu   January 14	1971	 Capricorn
Chris Sampson        Wed   January 15	1964	 Void where prohibited
Dennis G Parslow     Fri   January 17	1964	 SDCN
Ross Alford          Thu   January 17	1957	 Positive
Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson      Tue   January 20	1970	 Seanympf-Aquarius *
Terry Partis         Sun   January 22	1933	 Rocker
Ilka Heber           Mon   February 1	1965	 Mermaid
Bob Lovejoy          Sun   February 2	1947	 Aquarius
Diane Burke          Sat   February 2	1963	 slow children
Stephen Thomas       Fri   February 4	1966	 Aquarius
Sue Bacon            Fri   February 11	1966	 Aquarius
Doug Burks           Tue   February 14	1956	 Blank
Jim Sturnfield       Thu   February 18	1954	 Aquarius
Juha Kannisto        Wed   February 18	1970	 Aquarius
Linda Saboe          Tue   February 20	1951	 aimless
Paula Shanks         Mon   February 25	1952	 Pisces
Brni Mojzes          Fri   February 26	1965	 the vanishing boy
Pamela Pociluk       Fri   February 28	1964	 Pisces
Tim Steele           Fri   March 8	1963	 Pisces
kIrI Hargie          Fri   March 13	1970	 Pisces
Randall K. Smith     Sat   March 15	1969	 Pisces
Tod Flak             Tue   March 15	1966	 Pisces
Barry Wong           Thu   March 19	1970	 Merlin
Graham Dombkins      Fri   March 19	1965	 Pisces
Ian Young            Wed   March 19	1969	 Falling Rocks
Jeff Wasilko         Wed   March 19	1969	 Pisces
Geoff Carre          Sat   March 20	1954	 Pisces
Bob Brown            Thu   March 22	1951	 Ham
Valerie Nozick       Thu   March 25	1971	 Aries
Marc Power           Sun   March 30	1958	 The Project
Jennifer Albert      Wed   March 30	1966	 Aries (w/Cancer rising!:)
Warpaint             Mon   April 1	1991	 Brilliant!
Shorty               Tue   April 1	1980	 happy cat
Michael Pearce       Wed   April 3	1946	 Pegasus
Michael E. Bravo     Mon   April 5	1971	 Dandelion Wine
David Dixon          Tue   April 7	1970	 Aries
Klaus Kluge          Sun   April 10	1960	 Unicorn
Steve VanDevender    Sun   April 10	1966	 Racer
Art Liestman         Fri   April 10	1953	 Repeat
Michael Bowman       Wed   April 11	1962	 Aries
Janet Kirsch         Thu   April 11	1974	 Aries *
Stuart Myerburg      Mon   April 14	1969	 Aries
T-Bone               Wed   April 15	1992	 happy cat
Jeff Hanson          Sat   April 16	1966	 Aries
Harry Foster         Sat   April 21	1956	 NiceGuy
Angelos Kyrlidis     Fri   April 22	1966	 Taurus
Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu   April 23	1970	 Taurus
Pablo Iglesias       Thu   April 23	1964	 Positive
Jeff Burka           Thu   April 24	1969	 GoFlyAKite
Christine Waite      Tue   April 25	1972	 Taurus
Brad Hutchinson      Tue   April 28	1964	 What sign?
Geoff Parks          Sun   April 30	1961	 Taurus
William Morse        Tue   April 30	1968	 Taurus
Barney Parker        Fri   May 2	1986	 happy cat
Gray Abbott          Tue   May 3	1955	 Suprised
Tamar Boursalian           May 3		 Taurus
Mark Semich          Thu   May 6	1965	 Yield
Joe Dembski          Wed   May 7	1952	 Rumple
Brian Gregory        Thu   May 9	1963	 Eclectic
Steve Fagg           Tue   May 13	1958	 Nightwol
Karel Zuiderveld     Fri   May 13	1960	 Stier
Christopher Boek     Tue   May 19	1970	 Taurus
Yngve Hauge          Fri   May 21	1971	 Gemini
Lisa Laane           Tue   May 22	1973	 Gemini
Perttu Yli-Krekola   Thu   June 2	1966	 Kaksoset
Alex Gibbs           Thu   June 8	1967	 Betelgeuse
Joerg Plate          Mon   June 12	1967	 Gemini
Mark R. Susskind     Wed   June 15	1966	 Gemini
Ronald Hogan         Tue   June 16	1970	 Bloomsday
Mike Matthews        Mon   June 16	1969	 SAFH
Albert Philipsen     Mon   June 17	1968	 Gemini
Neal R. Copperman    Thu   June 17	1965	 Gemini
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David Lubkin         Fri   June 20	1958	 OurLady
Marisa Wood          Fri   June 20	1969	 Gemini
Cheri Villines       Sun   June 20	1965	 Gemini-Pisces *
Teresa VanDyne       Thu   June 23	1960	 Cancer
Dave Torok           Mon   June 24	1968	 Cancer
Ethan Straffin       Thu   June 24	1971	 Cancer *
Anders Hallberg      Tue   July 3	1962	 Cancer
Kevin Harkins        Thu   July 5	1973	 Cancer
Laurel Krahn         Mon   July 5	1971	 Cancer
Jim Gurley           Mon   July 6	1959	 Cancer
Courtney Dallas      Fri   July 9	1971	 Cat
Michael Peskura      Sat   July 9	1949	 HallOfFamer
Finney T. Tsai       Sat   July 9	1966	 Cancer
Marion Kippers       Tue   July 13	1965	 Kreeft *
Mitch Pravatiner     Mon   July 14	1952	 Cancer
John Zimmer          Sun   July 16	1961	 Cancer
Cathy Guetzlaff      Mon   July 18	1955	 Cancer
Vlad                 Sat   July 18	1970	 Warning: severe tire damage
David Koehler        Mon   July 25	1966	 Leo
Tom Johnson          Mon   July 25	1966	 Leo
Alvin Brattli        Sun   July 27	1969	 Lefthanded
Rob Woiccak (woj)    Sun   July 28	1968	 children at play
John Relph           Sat   July 28	1962	 Leo
Bob Kollmeyer        Wed   July 28	1971	 Leo
Mark Carroll         Fri   July 29	1966	 Hacker
Steve Lusky          Tue   July 29	1952	 Bike!
Kate Bush            Wed   July 30	1958	 God
Kevin Knapp (smudge) Wed   July 31	1968	 Leo
Eli Brandt                 August 5		 Leo
Martin Bridges       Sat   August 8	1970	 BigGuy *
Happy Rhodes         Mon   August 9	1965	 HolyGhost
Vickie Mapes         Wed   August 15	1956	 Giddy
Martin Dougiamas     Wed   August 20	1969	 Positive
Tori Amos            Thu   August 22	1963	 Leo
Don Gibson           Wed   August 26	1959	 Virgo *
Meredith Tarr        Wed   September 1	1971	 Virgo
Mary Lou Rowe        Sat   September 3	1960	 Virgo
Scott Zimmerman      Mon   September 4	1972	 Virgo
Mike Mendelson       Fri   September 4	1964	 Virgo
Richard Dean         Wed   September 6	1967	 Virgo
David Blank-Edelman  Sat   September 9	1967	 Neon
Holly Tominack       Thu   September 10	1970	 Virgo
Chris Williams       Tue   September 20	1960	 Neon 3-D Computer-generated
Joe Zitt             Sat   September 20	1958	 Will Hack for CDs
Tim Breitkreutz      Wed   October 7	1964	 Vogin *
Dan Riley            Sun   October 8	1961	 Libra
Neile Graham         Wed   October 8	1958	 pen
Quenby M. Chunco     Tue   October 8	1968	 Crunchy Frog
Wolfgang Drotschmann Thu   October 13	1966	 Waage
Brian Bloom          Tue   October 14	1969	 spam
Erik N. Johnson      Tue   October 16	1962	 Handle with Care
Dave Steiner         Sat   October 24	1959	 Scorpio
Jessica Dembski      Wed   October 29	1969	 Scorpio
Kathleen Morrey      Sat   November 1	1969	 Scorpio
Jim Milles           Thu   November 1	1956	 Scorpio *
Katie Dougiamas      Sat   November 2	1974	 Scorpio
Anthony Horan        Fri   November 4	1966	 Positive
Michael Sullivan     Mon   November 5	1962	 Scorpio
Jens Brage           Sun   November 8	1964	 Scorpio Rising
Lynn Garrett-KirchoffSat   November 8	1958	 Scorpio
Sam Murgie           Fri   November 8	1957	 Scorpio
Ken Latta            Sun   November 11	1951	 Scorpio
Neil K.              Thu   November 14	1968	 Grocible *
Elizabeth W. Warwick Sun   November 15	1964	 Scorpio
Rod "Revvie" BourlandSun   November 15	1953	 Scorpio *
Naama Avramzon       Mon   November 18	1974	 Scorpio
Jeff Smith           Mon   November 19	1962	 Crash
Kevin Bartlett       Fri   November 21	1952	 Scorpio
Alan Ezust           Fri   November 21	1969	 Earth Moving
Claudia Spix         Wed   November 23	1960	 Schuetze
Tommy Persson        Wed   November 25	1964	 Sagittarius
Pat Tessitore              November 26		 Sagittarius
Justin Bur           Fri   November 27	1964	 Sagittarius
Sue Trowbridge       Sun   November 27	1966	 Skytten
Chip Lueck           Thu   December 5	1968	 Sagittarius
Ken Hoyme            Sun   December 8	1957	 Sagittarius
Jeremy J. Corry      Fri   December 11	1970	 Sagittarius
Shelby               Sun   December 13	1970	 Roscoe the Frog
Laura Clifford       Tue   December 17	1957	 Sagittarius
Dirk Kastens         Tue   December 17	1963	 Sagittarius
Uli Grepel           Wed   December 25	1968	 Steinbock
Stuart Castergine    Mon   December 30	1963	 You Are Here

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If anyone wants to be added to this list, or change their "sign" just
e-mail me with the information...if you don't know what weekday you were
born on, I can figure it out if you give your complete birthday. Thanks!

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Klaus Kluge  *  klaus@inphobos.wupper.de  *  I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto!

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The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is
an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things
you'd like to have added.
		    -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)