Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #676 ecto, Number 676 Thursday, 29 July 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Lounge Lizards/Bounced Mail Today's your birthday friends... A New Eno Mailing List The incomprehensible, in song and mail Progress Report Goosebumps Re: Worried Re: aimee mann flash Hippity Hap Hippity Hap Luried Thoughts Jann Ardens new album is great IMHO Oops! Re: Aimee Mann flash Happy Birthday Project -- Take eight Ta-da! The Ecto-Hostel list 1.0 (beta-test) Today's your birthday friends... Re: ecto #662 Re: ecto #670h Clannad (Potentially) famous friends Re: weekend update (PG, Brin (not brni), CD-ROMs) ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 17:29:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Sampson Subject: Lounge Lizards/Bounced Mail Sorry all, Trying to straighten out this bad address thang. This is for Tamar's eyes only....Tamar, any of this gibberish up front make any sense??? ========================================================================== From: SMTP%"Postmaster@neuron.uchc.edu" 28-JUL-1993 17:25:01.83 To: CHRIS CC: Subj: Undeliverable Mail Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 17:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Postmaster@neuron.uchc.edu Subject: Undeliverable Mail To: Bad address -- <@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu:BOUTAME@YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU"> Error -- Address refused by receiver: <@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu:BOUTAME@YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU"> (501 Syntax Error. Unexpected Token '"') Start of returned message Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 17:24:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Sampson To: BOUTAME@YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu Message-Id: <930728172444.23803bc3@neuron.uchc.edu> Subject: RE: Lounge Lizards Tamar, Where is Ingrid Karklins playing this Sunday???? Unforgiveable as it is, I wonder how best to describe her style...(i.e., I haven't been reading the posts about her very closely). BTW last time I tried to email you, I got the all-too-frequent "undeliverable" message, which is odd, as we used to run our mail through Yale prior to becoming a node in our own right. Can you give me however many alternate addresses you may have Chris chris@neuron.uchc.edu End of returned message PS Obviously, it happened again. this time while I "replied" (didn't "send") ======================================================================== Subject: Today's your birthday friends... From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 07:30:32 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* **** Rob Woiccak ****** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *************** ***HAPPY******* ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ******************* ****** John Relph ***** **** Bob Kollmeyer **** *********************** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Woiccak (woj) Sun July 28 1968 children at play John Relph Sat July 28 1962 Leo Bob Kollmeyer Wed July 28 1971 Leo Mark Carroll Fri July 29 1966 Hacker Steve Lusky Tue July 29 1952 Bike! Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Happy Rhodes Mon August 9 1965 HolyGhost Ron Hill Tue August 11 1964 Leo Vickie Mapes Wed August 15 1956 Giddy Martin Dougiamas Wed August 20 1969 Positive -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 20:02:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Sampson Subject: A New Eno Mailing List Hi all, For those of us with more time than mailing lists to spend it on, the news I just learned is that there is a Brian Eno (Y'know the guy who played some piano on U2's Zooropa...) maling list about to start. The guy's name is: Alexander Rubli. He's at the Universidad de Las Americas in Mexico. HIS email address is: Rubli@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx To get on the list, send to: Eno-L-Request@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx Just thought you'd like to know Chris Sampson "Caldor sucks" Rainman outtake (Dustin Hoffman) chris@neuron.uchc.edu ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 17:11:22 PDT From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: The incomprehensible, in song and mail Joe Zitt: Yup, Joy Askue (Askew?, I kind of like that version) sang the Youssou N'Dour parts. It is not clear to me if she and Peter Gabriel really know what they are saying when they do stuff like that, or if they learned it phonetically, but what do I care, I don't know what they're saying either. (I have friends that sing and play Bulgarian music, and the singer sings it phonetically, since she doesn't know Bulgarian. Seems a strange hobby to me, singing in a language you can't understand, but I should get some neat music out of it.) Chris Sampson: I think you are right on the nose on my mail problems I do get the digest, with my posts in it (usually), as well as the returned mail, from a wide variety of sources. I'll have to pay closer attention to them. If I can figure out where they are coming from, is there anything I can do about getting something fixed? Neal ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: Progress Report Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 12:48:45 +1000 (EST) Hi all I'm getting a bit confused myself, so I thought I'd update you all on what's happening to me in the next few weeks 3 Aug I leave here for LA. On Tuesday and Wednesay I visit Disneyland and Universal Studios. On Wednesday night, I go down to San Diego to see Neal. Ecto Hostel Number 1 :) Or I may go to San Diego in the middle .. 6 Aug I leave LA for Gaffa Central. Ecto Hostel Number 2. Later in the week I head up to Eau Claire and back. Sorry Ken and Cathy, it doesn't look like I'll be getting to hang around in Minneapolis I spend an hour and ten minutes in Min airport :). Thanks for your Ectohostelity offers though :) 7 Aug GaffEcTori day 13 Aug I leave Gaffa Central for New York, to Christine's, then on to Greg's and woj's, and then on to Bob's. I was wondering if those concerned would mind if I reordered it slightly, and maybe went to Greg/woj's first so that I could meet Meredith, who said she could only come down on a weekend ... does that sound OK to you, Christine? Greg and woj ? 21 August I leave JFK for Amsterdam. YAY Does this agree with everybody's perception of the plans ... ? If there is still confusion email me, and if Christine and Greg or woj could let me know if the change sounds OK, then I'd be Happy :) Seeya Chris -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== From: r.lovejoy1@genie.geis.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 00:14:00 BST Subject: Goosebumps I could listen to Happy sing the Phone Book and I'd get goosebumps Well, someone had to say it! Bob the emotional ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 0:08:54 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Worried StephenT, fresh from the glow of his engagement, asks: > Hi peeps. Three and a half weeks ago I posted my order for HR5 and > Equipoise, and I haven't received anything yet. When I've ordered > stuff from AG in the past it's only taken a couple of weeks, so > I'm getting a little worried. I'd be very grateful if someone > who was better placed than I am could check with AG whether they've > received the order, whether its been posted out yet, and to which > address it was sent. I posted my order to the Bearsville address I talked to Happy last night and she said that she was a bit behind on filling orders, so don't worry. I'm sure everything's ok I'm not at liberty to pass along any information (yet) but we are in for a nice little treat soon No tour info, sorry. No EQP info either, sorry. (I forgot to ask how many have sold, that's what I mean.) Hey, I received a letter from Andrew Simchik (aka Drewcifer) and he says to say hi. He'll be back as soon as school starts. He's just received Ecto, signed by Happy, and he's in heaven :-). He says "_Ecto_ was incredible, truly...'Would That I Could' is loveliness, 'To Be E. Mortal' is transcendent, 'Look For The Child' is a near masterpiece...what unearthly half-shell produced this goddess of musical beauty? As I write, I'm listening to the morbid and morose _Rhodes I_ which is like a trickling waterfall...And oh, the sweetness of 'The Wretches Gone Awry'! I'll tell you Vickie, I've never fallen for a musical canon like this before. Our Happy is the real thing..." (Andy said I could pass along his comments. I told him that I'd miss his poetic waxing about Happy over the summer :-). He'll be back about Sept. 1) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 02:15:32 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: aimee mann flash >DATE: 28 Jul 93 10:44:33 EDT >FROM: Mike Mendelson > >Well, don't get too excited. But, I heard a song from the >new album (Say Anything) on WXRT this morning. Has this come >out as a single. I know I Should've Known was the first single, >and I never heard that on the radio (though I rarely listen to radio) > >Anyway, the more airplay she gets the greater the chance that she'll >tour and continue to produce music. Yay! > >-mjm > She just played SPAC, opening for the Kinks! Strange match! Dennis Parslow What do you want? Do you want to go out? Troy, NY 12180 Do you want a cookie? Do you want me to p00421@psilink.com dial the number for you? Jane Siberry "Everything Reminds Me of My Dog" ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 2:23:36 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Hippity Hap Hippity Hap HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Steve Lusky!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Mark Carroll!! Vickie ======================================================================== Subject: Luried Thoughts Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 1:52:17 CDT From: Joe Zitt Laura Frank Clifford writes: > Well, I think I have the 'first' Lounge Lizards LP as well - I can't remember > the title, but it's black and white and has the Peter Gunn theme on it > I really like it but haven't played it in quite a while Yup that's the one -- but I just tried to find my copy and came up blank. I wonder if it's misfiled somewhere. After I move (next week), I gotta resequence my records -- anyone have a dBASE to vinyl interface! I recently got my paws on Miranda Sex Garden's "Suspiria", and I love it. My first two terse reactions: 1. Wow -- grunge Steeleye Span! 2. This is what Sinead O'Connor's second album *should* have been I almost picked up their EP, but got distracted by Tower's 3 disks for $35 bucks sale... which I ended up not taking advantage of either, but did get a Wanda Coleman spoken word disc. (Was anyone as disappointed as I was by MTV's Spoken Word Unplugged? As a performing poet, I was hoping for more than the thudding pulse and in-your-face aggressiveness of all the poets. Only Barry Yourgrau showed the slightest hint of subtlety (or more than basic literacy), and Henry Rollins, who I was lokking forward to hearing threw away his slot doing a Percy Dovetonsils-like spoof. *grumble*) ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 08:25:15 BST Subject: Jann Ardens new album is great IMHO The subject line says it all! ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 10:35:12 BST Subject: Oops! I've had my wrists slapped severely. It wasn't "His Name is Alive" that sounded like Neil Diamond (bizarre indeed) but Brendan Perry from "Dead Can Dance" ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 10:08:18 EDT From: Tamar Boursalian Subject: Re: Aimee Mann flash Hi! I just found out last night that Aimee Mann is playing at Toad's Place in New Haven, Monday August 2. So maybe there is a tour in the works! --Tamar (boutame@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu) ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 08:38:48 MDT From: dbx@teton.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Happy Birthday Project -- Take eight Greetings, I guess if you _really_ hurried you could get a tape in the mail in time for it to reach me Monday, the deadline for this year's Happy Birthday Project However, I am intending this as mainly a status report. My only reminder is that if you want Mitch to vocalize your contribution introduction, please send him a script TODAY!! Currently on hand, I have contributions from the following Ectophiles: Steve Fagg Albert Philipsen Dirk Kastens Doug Burks Angelos Kyrlidis Alan Moorse Uli Grepel Jane Zakrzewski Bob Lovejoy Jens Brage Dave Dixon Mitch Pravatiner Beth Perry Ken Descoteaux Jeff Burka Klaus Kluge Claudia Spix Joe Zitt Sammy Tao (Any spelling errors are mine. :) Please correct me, if needed.) I hope to see even more tapes in my mailbox over the next five days! I've already put together a first draft of the first tape, even though it'll have to be re-done once I receive Mitch's full vocals. Anyway, I needed the practice, making it easier the second time round. Right? :) In any case, this tape is damned good! [And I'm the only one who's heard it. Tee, hee! :) ] Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== From: brianb@lobby.ti.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Ta-da! The Ecto-Hostel list 1.0 (beta-test) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 10:54:12 CDT Okay, guys, here it is... I've compiled a preliminary ecto-hostel list from the submissions that people sent me It occurred to me that I don't know the full names for several ectophiles:kiri, court, Quenby, brni, Meredith, and Guyver-One (and I noticed over a third of the submissions have last names beginning with 'B' Hmmmmm.....) Please send me any corrections or missing information so that it can in added to the list Apologies in advance for any mis-stated info... I had to infer some things and might have made some incorrect assumptions Any ectophiles who want to be added are cordially invited! :) So for your approval: ****************************************************************** *** The International Ecto-Hostel Network *** ****************************************************************** This is a list of generous Ectophiles who have offered their homes as places to stay for fellow traveling Ectophiles. One prerequisite for nearly every location is _advance notice_. Be sure to check well in advance before planning to drop in on anyone Thanks to all who responded! Please send all removals/changes/additions to brianb@lobby.ti.com Here are the Hostels in approximate west-east order: (Complete addresses follow) Name Location Caveats __________________________________________________________________ Neal Copperman La Jolla, CA roommate approval Michael Bowman Portland, OR futon Tim Breitkreutz Edmonton, Can Doug Burks Fort Collins, CO (Airport pickup!) Brian Bloom Dallas, TX 2 dogs, 1 cat Chip Lueck Chicago, IL 2 cats Vickie Mapes Chicago, IL chores assigned Guyver-One Terre Haute, IN parental permission kiri Mississippi Court Tuscaloosa, AL after August Quenby Buffalo, NY lots... :) Mike Matthews DC/Dulles area small apartment Alan Moore Troy, NY house under construction brni Villanova, PA Robert Lovejoy Philadelphia, PA 2 dogs, 2 teenagers Greg Bossert & Woj New Brunswick, NJ 3 cats Meredith New Haven, CT New Haven :) OVERSEAS: Martin Hanley Bath, England Klaus Kluge Wuppertal, Germany Jens P. Brage Denmark cooking :) Chris Boek Melbourne, Australia Leiden, Holland (next year) __________________________________________________________________ ADDRESSES: Brian Bloom brianb@lobby.ti.com 2525 Players Court #308 Dallas, TX 75287 214-307-8458 Christopher Boek boek@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU Greg 'footah' Bossert bossert@nubis.rutgers.edu (& Rob 'Woj' Woiccak) 66 Suydam St New Brunswick, NJ 08901 908-745-7486 Michael Bowman bowman@lib.pdx.edu 735 SW St. Clair #806 Portland, OR 97205 503-295-2679 Jens P. Brage brage@id.dth.dk Time Breitkreutz tim@cs.ualberta.ca brni mojzes@monet.vill.edu Doug Burks dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu Neal Copperman neal@ccrwest.org 8642 Villa La Jolla Dr. #5 La Jolla, CA 92037-2367 Guyver-One miharki@indsvax1.indstate.edu Martin Hanley martinha @sco.com kiri BYHARGIE@umsvm.bitnet Klaus Kluge klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Robert Lovejoy robert@deepspace.NJ00802.sai.com Chip Lueck jlueck@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu, chip-l@nwu.edu 6201 N. Wayne Ave Chicago, IL 60660-1916 312-262-1859 Vickie Mapes vickie@pilot.njin.net Mike Matthews matthewm@sgate.com Meredith meth@delphi.com Alan Moore moorsa@rpi.edu Quenby V115P8D6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu ======================================================================== Subject: Today's your birthday friends... From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 00:06:55 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *************** ***HAPPY******* ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ******************* **** Mark Carroll ***** ***** Steve Lusky ***** *********************** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mark Carroll Fri July 29 1966 Hacker Steve Lusky Tue July 29 1952 Bike! Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Happy Rhodes Mon August 9 1965 HolyGhost Ron Hill Tue August 11 1964 Leo Vickie Mapes Wed August 15 1956 Giddy Martin Dougiamas Wed August 20 1969 Positive -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== From: Perttu Yli-Krekola Subject: Re: ecto #662 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 20:19:16 EETDST Hello! I'm now visiting in the Nokia's Dusseldorf office (in Germany) and here there is 64kb line to Finland and I can finally read my mail > From: jk101920@ee.tut.fi (Kannisto Juha) > > Hi! Welcome Juha. It's good to see another Finnish ectophile! > hi to everyone on the list. It was 1.5 weeks ago that I casually > said to this one friend of mine (a great Kate Bush -fan like myself) : > 'I wonder where one could obtain some Happy Rhodes' music from...' > Actually I said 'Mistahan loytaisi Happy Rhodesin musiikkia', but most > of you wouldn't understand that. Anyway, he opened a drawer and > there they were, five tapes that were about to change my life. I had > no idea he had this stuff :) Anyway, he doesn't like it as much as > KaTe.. I think I know this guy, Petri Heinonen? He copied my Happy tapes about year ago, reads r.m.gaffa but never joined ecto. If it's him say hello from me. I'm living currently in Holland > jk101920@cc.tut.fi - jk101920@ee.tut.fi - jk101920@cs.tut.fi I studied in the same university (85-91) as you, my account was py64725@ Perttu Yli-Krekola, Rederserf 250, 2586 KJ Den Haag, The Netherlands ylikreko@tre.tele.nokia.fi ======================================================================== From: Perttu Yli-Krekola Subject: Re: ecto #670h Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 21:11:45 EETDST Hi again! Klaus klaused: > Dirk P.P.P.P.S.ed: > > P.P.P.P.S.: Chris, have a nice time in Holland. Maybe we could arrange > > a gathering of ectophiles from this part of the world > This does indeed sound like a good enough reason for another european > ecto party in september or october. Read this as a pre-announcement! > How's it? Somebody interested? Albert & Chip, are you coming again? I would come too! > PS to Uli: ARTE (french/german culture TV channel) will show a feature > on Mari Boine in the repeat of Megamix on Wednesday! I only caught the > last 10 seconds of it today and it stopped the second I had my current > music tape in the unit I have something of Mari Boine on videotape too recorded from Finnish TV2. It's 20-30 minutes long and has couple of songs from her concert in Helsinki and interviews between the songs Perttu Yli-Krekola, Rederserf 250, 2586 KJ Den Haag, The Netherlands ylikreko@tre.tele.nokia.fi ======================================================================== Date: 29 Jul 1993 14:45:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "she listens like her head's on fire.." Subject: Clannad Hello all.. I guess this would be of more interest to those of us in the U.S.. Clannad is scheduled to appear on the Tonight Show..tonight! I'm quite sure the T.V. Guide said Thursday night. So look for them either tonight or next Thursday night (in case I'm a week out of synch with the rest of the world):-) -Quenby ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 12:15:24 PDT From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: (Potentially) famous friends Some very cool news: A friend of mine, Linda Brady, has been signed to Son of Berserkeley Records. Berserkeley Records was a local independent record company that launched the careers of Johnathan Richman and Greg Kihn. The guy who founded it took a hiatus, and is back with a new label, Son of Berserkeley. And Linda's been signed! yay! Linda's music is sort of Suzanne Vega-ish, but not as "talky" Her songs tend to be pretty cynical. Take this example, "Hard to Know" Fashion queen selling perfume Hands me a sample of the best, There's warpaint lined up under plastic glass Next to the Cosmopolitan Personality Test A talking elevator escorts me To the top floor above the rest Where twenty TV's flicker home shopping shows Where you can always get more for less Well it's hard to know, And it's easy to ignore what the world don't adore, And it's hard to know Who you are When you're raised to be someone else There's a mile long line of children Next to the mile of styrofoam reindeer At the front the kids get a promise and a numbert And a kiss on the 100% cotton beard (chorus) (there's another verse, but I forget it now) I put one of Linda's songs, "Rented Tuxedo," on the HBP tape She even got mentioned in _Rolling Stone_ earlier this month! A name to watch for D^2 ======================================================================== Date: 29 Jul 1993 15:33:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "she listens like her head's on fire.." Subject: Re: weekend update (PG, Brin (not brni), CD-ROMs) > What a great weekend. Thursday I saw David Brin give a reading/ >babble session. I haven't actually read any of his books, but I was >intrigued about a few from the reading. He read from THe Postmaster, >Earth, and his new one, which I've already forgotten. He was very >opinionated, but I was disappointed that he seemed to look very >narrowly at most issues. I couldn't decide if it was the forum or >if he was just shallow, but maybe the books will tell. Incidentally, >the description of the new book sounded interesting, but the reading >did nothing to pique my interest I've read the Uplift War which is by him (unless I'm mixing him up with someone else) and it was very good, an interesting premise and an interesting story. The same with Earth which I read at the beginning of the year. Its too bad he wasn't such an impressive speaker >The idea of this roughly 50 year old man in tights and a loose shirt, >vaguely pudgy and slightly jowly, dancing and skipping around the >stage works so much better than I had any reason to believe it should hehe I'm sorry..I just find this description so funny. I'll never look at Peter Gabriel the same again! -Quenby ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)