Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #639 ecto, Number 639 Thursday, 8 July 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* U,V,X,W,Y,Z Call for submissions to ectophiles guide news flash Re: Julianna Raye? DIDs HR^5 in Europe Re: hr5 Name That Movie! HaPpY Birthdays Re: Acckkk! The Navigator redux DIDs and DIVs DID's ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 22:10:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: U,V,X,W,Y,Z Call for submissions to ectophiles guide Hello to everyone! Here is the next call for submissions to An Ectophiles Guide to Good Music. This is an open call for opinions about artists/groups whose names start with U,V,W,X,Y,Z. The idea of the Guide is to let us share our musical enthusiasms with each other. **The important thing is you being able to share what you think is important about this music.** Please, everyone, send at least your opinions of these artists. We welcome any and all participation and would like to receive as many opinions on as many artists as possible. Please respond with to: ethelred@u.washington.edu by Wednesday, July 21. Responses for T artists deadline is July 14. Late responses will likely not make it into the first edition of the Guide. --------The Ectophiles Guide to Artists starting with U,V,W,X,Y,Z-------- THE ARTISTS: Uncle Bonsai, Varttina, Suzanne Vega, Kristen Vigard, Voice of the Beehive, Caitlin Von Schmidt, Wendy Wall, Waterlilies, West India Company, Victoria Williams, Sylvia Woods, X, Gabriel Yacoub, Akiko Yano, Y Kant Tori Read, Yma Sumac, Chaba Zahouania, Zap Mama and anyone else you think would be of interest to ectophiles. THE FORM: Name of artist (Band/Singer): Country of origin: Type of music (ethereal/rock/folk) generally: Covers/own material?: Other groups artist has played with [for See also section]: Comparisons: General Comments: Recommended first album: Recordings: Title: Year of Release: Label & Country (and address if indie): Catalogue #s: Availability (mention country if applicable): Ecto priority (must have/recommended/recommended for certain tastes [please specify]): Group Members/ Backing Musicians: Comments (please keep brief as you can while still including the information/description you feel is necessary): Do you own this recording? [answer will not appear in actual guide]: --[please repeat recording info for each recording you want to talk about]-- Further info (eg. fan club address): NOTES: --Please respond with one artist per message. It will make it way easier for us to sort through incoming messages). If you can use the artist's/ group's name as the subject line that will help even more. --Our aim is to give you a chance to share info about the music that interests you (and that doesn't) and why--to help to other ectophiles looking for new music. --We included a comparisons section because even though in principle we don't like them, in practice they're useful. --Unless you request otherwise, your name & email address will be attached to the subjective stuff. --Please use smilies to indicate any sarcasm or humour(!!). --Don't feel compelled to fill in each section if it's awkward for you to get the info. If we have blanks we can try to fill them in later. This isn't meant to be a discography of each artist--its main function is to give us a more organized way of letting each other know about artists we love and want to talk about and think other ectophiles might be interested in (or might need to be warned about). --If an artist has a number of albums please give quick reviews of each that you feel you can talk about. --We reserve the right to (carefully, gently) edit responses. --Please send responses only to ethelred@u.washington.edu; send comments/questions to neile@u.washington.edu or marylou@bnr.ca --Deadline for U,V,W,X,Y,Z: July 21. Late messages will be accepted, but likely won't appear in the first edition of the guide. ------------------------------- Again, please respond with one artist per message by June 21 to ethelred@u.washington.edu Thanks to you all. Eagerly anticipating your responses... --The Ectophiles Guide Crew (volunteers welcome :) ) If you have questions or comments please email: Neile Graham (neile@u.washington.edu) or Mary Lou Rowe (marylou@bnr.ca) Hello to everyone! Here is the next call for submissions to An Ectophiles Guide to Good Music. This is an open call for opinions about artists/groups whose names start with U,V,W,X,Y,Z. The idea of the Guide is to let us share our musical enthusiasms with each other. **The important thing is you being able to share what you think is important about this music.** Please, everyone, send at least your opinions of these artists. We welcome any and all participation and would like to receive as many opinions on as many artists as possible. Please respond with to: ethelred@u.washington.edu by Wednesday, July 21. Responses for T artists deadline is July 14. Late responses will likely not make it into the first edition of the Guide. --------The Ectophiles Guide to Artists starting with U,V,W,X,Y,Z-------- THE ARTISTS: Uncle Bonsai, Varttina, Suzanne Vega, Kristen Vigard, Voice of the Beehive, Caitlin Von Schmidt, Wendy Wall, Waterlilies, West India Company, Victoria Williams, Sylvia Woods, X, Gabriel Yacoub, Akiko Yano, Y Kant Tori Read, Yma Sumac, Chaba Zahouania, Zap Mama THE FORM: Name of artist (Band/Singer): Country of origin: Type of music (ethereal/rock/folk) generally: Covers/own material?: Other groups artist has played with [for See also section]: Comparisons: General Comments: Recommended first album: Recordings: Title: Year of Release: Label & Country (and address if indie): Catalogue #s: Availability (mention country if applicable): Ecto priority (must have/recommended/recommended for certain tastes [please specify]): Group Members/ Backing Musicians: Comments (please keep brief as you can while still including the information/description you feel is necessary): Do you own this recording? [answer will not appear in actual guide]: --[please repeat recording info for each recording you want to talk about]-- Further info (eg. fan club address): NOTES: --Please respond with one artist per message. It will make it way easier for us to sort through incoming messages). If you can use the artist's/ group's name as the subject line that will help even more. --Our aim is to give you a chance to share info about the music that interests you (and that doesn't) and why--to help to other ectophiles looking for new music. --We included a comparisons section because even though in principle we don't like them, in practice they're useful. --Unless you request otherwise, your name & email address will be attached to the subjective stuff. --Please use smilies to indicate any sarcasm or humour(!!). --Don't feel compelled to fill in each section if it's awkward for you to get the info. If we have blanks we can try to fill them in later. This isn't meant to be a discography of each artist--its main function is to give us a more organized way of letting each other know about artists we love and want to talk about and think other ectophiles might be interested in (or might need to be warned about). --If an artist has a number of albums please give quick reviews of each that you feel you can talk about. --We reserve the right to (carefully, gently) edit responses. --Please send responses only to ethelred@u.washington.edu; send comments/questions to neile@u.washington.edu or marylou@bnr.ca --Deadline for T: July 14. Late messages will be accepted, but likely won't appear in the first edition of the guide. ------------------------------- Again, please respond with one artist per message by June 21 to ethelred@u.washington.edu Thanks to you all. Eagerly anticipating your responses... --The Ectophiles Guide Crew (volunteers welcome :) ) If you have questions or comments please email: Neile Graham (neile@u.washington.edu) or Mary Lou Rowe (marylou@bnr.ca) ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 01:49:44 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (l.l. cool bean) Subject: news flash i'll get to replying to other threads some other time...but before knocking off for bed, i wanted to forward this to youse folks for your perusal and approval: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 16:19:34 -0700 From: Brant Nelson Subject: New Cocteau Tracklisting!!! Here it is verbatim from the fax I just got: The new Cocteau Twins album is finished, mastered, and will be presented to the label this week. The title is "Four Calendar Cafe" and the track listing is as follows: Side A 1) Know Who You Are At Every Age 3'58 2) Evangeline 4'29 3) Bluebeard 3'54 4) Theft, And Wandering Around Lost 4'30 5) Oil Of Angels 4'37 Side B 1) Squeeze-Wax 3'48 2) My Truth 4'32 3) Essence 3'01 4) Summerhead 3'37 5) Pur 5'02 The release date is set for September 20th. There will be a tour in early 1994. We will pass on more information as it becomes available. (fax ends, now back to me) In case you're wondering, the length of the album is 41:08. Brant ------------------------------------------------- i'm sure you're all thrilled. the next tour is rumored to feature a real drummer for a change. whee! okay, off to bed. snooze. +woj ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1993 21:48:52 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Julianna Raye? In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article , you wrote: > I *almost* bought the Cranberries' album. I heard a song from it the > other day (I think it was called "Pretty"?) and I liked it a lot. For > those in the know, is the rest of the album as good? Does she sing > on all the tracks? (I loved her voice!) Has anyone seen a video by > them yet? I ask because what I saw (when I heard them) was very strange The album is, IMHO, wonderful. The single, "Linger" is one of the most lushly recorded, most beautiful songs to be released all year, and the rest of the album is just as good. She (Delores O'Riordan) does indeed sing on all the tracks. The production is by Stephen Street, who did such a fine job on later Smiths albums and many other artists' work since. And he knows how to record a string section. This album is one of the finest released this year. There is a video clip for "Linger", shot in the US last year. It's hugely stylish, shot indoors in black and white, but may have been vetoed by MTV because it contains some nudity (no, not Delores!). This all reminds me - I *must* post my Cranberries interview. Tomorrow, I promise! > and I doubt that it was the official video. I was flipping channels and > for some reason stopped on ESPN, the sports channel, and this guy was > showing "videos" but...I don't know...a song started and it was identified > as being the Cranberries, but the "video" was people water skiing! I get > the feeling that this guy just put music to different sports, rather than > play the actual video. Can anyone confirm? That is *not* a Cranberries video! :-) > "If you find my slinky will you tell me where it is > For I lost it long ago back when I was still a kid > I loved to watch it walk and I loved to make it bend > The slinky was my friend." Hee hee... as Meri would say, that just made me snarf chocolate ice cream all over my monitor screen... :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "Not everybody likes me, but I don't like everybody either!" - Ilka Heber ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 08 Jul 93 11:30:05 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: DIDs Hello Crusoes, My DIDs? Only ten? That's nearly impossible. I could name at least ten Tangerine Dream albums that I won't miss. But I'll try: Kate Bush - Hounds of love Peter Gabriel - So Peter Gabriel - Passion Alice - Mezzogiorno sulle alpi Steve Jansen / Richard Barbieri - Stories across borders Maire Brennan - Maire Tangerine Dream - Exit Christopher Franke - The London concert Sting - Ten summoner's tales Tori Amos - Little earthquakes What, no Happy Rhodes? Put Warpaint on 11 :-) If it depends on the weight that one only can choose ten albums, then I would throw away the jewel cases and take 50 CDs with me :-) Ciao Dirk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ || \\\\\ || ///// | dkastens@dosuni1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE || ))))) IRK || ((((( ASTENS | "Music's the way, the only way I know" || ///// || \\\\\ | Happy Rhodes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 13:45:40 MET DST From: Albert Philipsen Subject: HR^5 in Europe I got my copy of HR^5 yesterday. Would this be the first one outside of the U.S.A.? Anyway, I think the music is wonderful, and I like the photo of Happy on the cover. It really does justice to her chin and nose, and it looks much better than a monster. Even though the disc was wrapped in two extra sheets of cardboard, the jewel case was a bit crushed when it arrived. The postal services must have worked hard on that one. The two other discs I ordered for a colleague (Rhodes II and Rearmament) were luckily still in one piece. What's the title of track 6? Albert ======================================================================== From: brianb@lobby.ti.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: hr5 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 9:16:32 CDT > We ended up going to > another friend's house later that night to watch a movie. When we got to his > house "Wrong Century" was the next song that would be played. It turns out > that the movie was about a man who goes back in time to another century. (I > remember humming "wrong century" the rest of the movie :) ) The one guy who UnHappy related thing that's been bugging me for a *long* time. I saw a movie several years ago about a group of barbarians/peasants/monks that dug a hole/cave to escape from a plague... So deep in fact, that they surfaced in our time. They spent the rest of the movie trying to get to this one church to get the cross from its steeple. It had all the standard cliches of people from the 'wrong century' trying to comprehend modern things (like highways/cars, etc..) *CAN ANYBODY NAME THIS MOVIE*????? I can't even remember if it was a foreign film or not... *sigh* br!an __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@lobby.ti.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Subject: Re: hr5 Date: Thu, 08 Jul 93 15:21:46 +0100 From: Stephen Thomas The film is called "The Navigator", and is a New-Zealand made film. rather good film, IMHO. Keep well, Stephen ======================================================================== From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 10:36:40 -0400 Subject: Name That Movie! brianb@lobby.ti.com (Brian Bloom) writes: >UnHappy related thing that's been bugging me for a *long* time. >I saw a movie several years ago about a group of barbarians/peasants/monks >that dug a hole/cave to escape from a plague... So deep in fact, that they >surfaced in our time. They spent the rest of the movie trying to get to >this one church to get the cross from its steeple. It had all the standard >cliches of people from the 'wrong century' trying to comprehend modern >things (like highways/cars, etc..) >*CAN ANYBODY NAME THIS MOVIE*????? >I can't even remember if it was a foreign film or not... >*sigh* >br!an I believe it was called The Navigator. I thought it was the Disney film. It wasn't. Mike ======================================================================== Date: 08 Jul 93 11:08:48 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: brni (how do you pronounce your name?) retrospects: } >>first album that i ever bought (that and fleetwood mac's _rumors_, if } > } >I *LOVE* Supertramp. BiA was the first album I ever bought (well, } >it was either that or Queen's greatest hits... I bought Rumors } >for my cousin as a birthday present on the *same* trip to the store, } >I think). Is this hilarious, or what? } > } my first album was some long forgotten beach boys thing, followed closely Ahhh, my cousin bought *me* one of the many Beach Boys greatest hits albums, and I did buy a Beach Boys 8-track tape before BiA and Queen. (Yikes!) } by none other than Sean Cassidy. but my first vinyl was a 7 inch of the } song "the night chicago died" by the infamous band Paper Lace. anyone } still remember that song? Sure. It's right up there with the Night the lights went out in Georgia (in fact I still get them two songs mixed up). Did anybody see Cyndi Lauper on Leno last night? Pretty hilarious, ay? (she admitted to sleeping with her husband before they got married and Jay stormed off the set) She's *still* *so* unusual... and is Ally Sheedy the most hyper-nervous person you've ever seen on a talk show? -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 08 Jul 93 16:42:08 +0100 From: Terry Partis Subject: HaPpY Birthdays Here's wishing HAPPY birthdays to Courtney Dallas,Michael Peskura and Finney Tsai on 9th July Have a great day folks Peace Terry === Only in your eyes lies your soul ========================= Happy Rhodes === _ __ Jolly Hockeysticks _ __ / `-' ( ,,, / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] Terry (Tel Boy) Partis | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' (tgp@ukc.ac.uk) \_.-._( ''' With a smile and a song - I'm HaPpy Let me sleep awhile and dream of Avalon and the Beltane fires.................. ............................................our souls entwined for all eternity ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 11:54:58 EDT From: justin@campion.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: Re: Acckkk! Hi ecto-people from far away... i'm telnetted in from Ankara (Turkey). MJM defers to me on Harmonium; not a whole lot I can say now except that he didn't make any mistakes in what he said. Their debut album came out in 1974 I think, Les cinq saisons (officially called Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison, or something very similar... my mind is not very clear on this sort of thing now) in 1975, the third (double) album, called L'heptade, in 1976 or so. Still remembered fondly in Quebec, and their music is always to be heard in a `boite a chansons' or at open-air concerts in the summer. Serge Fiori has released albums since then, none of which I am familiar with except Fiori-Seguin (done with Richard Seguin in the late 1970s; contains the song Deux mille nuits a l'heure). I doubt I'll have a chance to log on again until the 25th, since I'm leaving Ankara this evening for Mediterranean resorts... bye for now. justin ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 12:12:58 CDT From: Subject: The Navigator redux The director of _The Navigator_, whose name I forget, also directed _Map of the Human Heart_. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 13:46:59 -0400 From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: DIDs and DIVs I sent off my DIDs a while ago, but they have inevitably changed. (Imagine the dilemma I'd have if I really were going to a desert island!) So, here is the new and improved version, with DIVs this time. DIDs (in no particular order): 1. Little Earthquakes-Tori Amos 2. Warpaint-Happy Rhodes 3. Hounds of Love-Kate Bush 4. The Dreaming-Kate Bush 5. The Queen is Dead-The Smiths (try them Vickie, you'll like 'em) 6. Shaking the Tree-Peter Gabriel 7. In My Tribe-10,000 Maniacs 8. 99.9F degrees-Suzanne Vega 9. Chorus-Erasure 10. Synchronicity-The Police Runners-up: 1. Rhodes II-Happy Rhodes 2. Music for the Masses-Depeche Mode 3. Through the Looking Glass-Siouxsie and the Banshees 4. Revolver-The Beatles 5. You and Me Both-Yaz 6. Upstairs at Eric's-Yaz Of course, I would also need Rhodes I for "Oh the Drears" and The Sensual World for "This Woman's Work"... DIVs (once again not in order): 1. Blue Velvet 2. Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? 3. Proof 4. Cinema Paradiso 5. The Hunger 6. Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? 7. The Color Purple 8. Sophie's Choice 9. East of Eden (James Dean version) 10. The Lion in Winter Runners-up: 1. Dead Poet's Society 2. Torch Song Trilogy 3. Apocalypse Now 4. Raise the Red Lantern 5. The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover 6. Impromptu That's it... Stuart labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu "I want to be a lawyer, I want to be a scholar, But I really can't be bothered." - "Sat in Your Lap," Kate Bush ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 11:45:45 PDT From: tsai@ikos.com (Finney T. Tsai) Subject: DID's So, DID's. I have a long long list about the items I would bring to the desert. Getting more greedy when you are getting older. :) I store the list in several separate files. The following is one of them. Yep, almost everybody has KB top on the list, isn't it? BTW, is there any Fellini or Joyce fan on Ecto? -finney Rock/Pop DID's: 1. Hounds of Love, Kate Bush 2. Little Earthquakes, Tori Amos 3. In My Tribe, 10,000 Maniacs 4. Fisherman's Blues, the Waterboys 5. Suzanne Vega, Suzanne Vega 6. Out of Time, REM 7. Warpaints, Happy Rhodes 8. Remain in Light(or Stop Making Sense), Talking Heads 9. London Calling, The Clash /or The White Album, The Beatles 10. Highway 61 Revisited, Bob Dylan Classical Music DID's, not so seriously: 1. J.S. Bach, Brandenburg Concertos, Karl Richter, Munich Bach Ch. & O. Archive 2. J.S. Bach, Harpsichord Concertos, Pinnock, English Concert. Archive 3. Beethoven, Violin Concerto in D, David Oistrakh, Cluytens, France National R.O. EMI 4. Beethoven Symphony No.7, Carlos Kleiber, VPO. DGG /or Mendelssohn, A Midsummer Night's Dream, Previn, LSO. EMI 5. Beethoven, Symphony No.9, Furtwangler, Bayreuth Festival Ch. & O. EMI 6. Mahler, Symphony No.8, Solti, Chicago SO. Decca 7. Chopin, Piano Concerto No. 1, Martha Argerich, Abbado, LSO. DGG 8. Mozart, Piano Concertos No. 20, 21, Bilson, Gardiner, English Baroque Soloists. Archive 9. Carl Orff, Carmina Burana, Previn, LSO. EMI 10. Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto in D, Heifetz, Reiner, Chicago SO. RCA Videos in Desert: 1. 8 1/2, Federico Fellini 2. Drowning by numbers, Peter Greenaway 3. Barry Lyndon, Stanley Kubrick 4. The Seventh Seal, Ingmar Bergman 5. Passions, Jean-Luc Godard 6. Last year at Marienbad, Alain Resnais 7. Apu Trilogy, Satyajit Ray 8. The Rules of the Game, Jean Renoir 9. Arabian nights, Pier Paolo Pasolini 10. Rashomon, Akira Kurosawa Books in Desert: 1. Finnegans Wake, James Joyce 2. Ulysses, James Joyce 3. Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon 4. Giles Goat-Boy, John Barth 5. One Hundred Years of Solitude, Garcia Marquez 6. in Search of Lost Time, Marcel Proust 7. Izu Dancer/Snow Country, Yasunari Kawabata (the rest three are all Chinese novels) ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)