Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #963 ecto, Number 963 Friday, 14 January 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: throat singing Re: More nits with wits Gotta go... thanks Wordophilia Just say NO2--or is it N2O? Northern encomium Re: babbling time again Hubble News Conference... the ectofile reborn Ruminations on the absurd ectopics for the record... for the record, part the second reviews and such stuff penlope & medieval stuff ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 13:53:40 PST From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: throat singing Chris forgets me:) >>First >>that called for my response was a question raised by...er...somebody...as >>to whether any of us can sing 2 or more notes simultaneously. Well, I asked the original question, more in fun than in actual seriousness, but I do think the whole idea is neat. >>If somebody wants, I can TRY to explain it over the >>list/email, but I don't know, it's more like one of those verbal >>traditions, in that you need constant feedback. One second thought, it >>might be possible....Anyone interested in the description???? Not being much of a singer outside the privacy of my car, I don't know how useful a description would be, but I would still love to see one. When done right, does it hurt? The most common reaction to hearing the Tuvans seems to be to try to recreate the sounds they make, but it makes my throat sore for a while (and I don't think I'm even going for multiple notes). ON a related subject, I have know people who could whistle two notes at the same time. As a demonstration he held one note constant and went up and down a scale with the other. Another person could whistle three notes, but I never got the full demonstration. He did tend to wander around singing and whistling simultaneously a lot. Neal ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 13:55:06 PST From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: More nits with wits > >will quote Douglas Adams for food > Like this???? > .----------------------------------------------------------------------. > | Most of the things we were told in Indonesia turned out to be false; |. > | sometimes immediately. The only exception to this was when we were |\| > | told that something would happen immediately, in which case it turned |\| > | out to be false over an extended period of time. |\| > | .-----------------------|\| > | -Douglas Adams | Chris Sampson |\| > | (From "Last Chance to See") | chris@neuron.uchc.edu |\| > `-----------------------------------------------`-----------------------'\| > \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\| > `------------------------------------------------------------------------' > Exactly, your sandwich is in the mail. N^1 ======================================================================== From: alan moorse Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 17:02:25 -0500 Subject: Gotta go... thanks I'm backed up more than 1000 messages again and have been for too long, so I'm stepping out of the ectostream, at least for now. What with the holidays, a death in the family, and now an impending job change, there's no way I could keep up with y'all. Thanks for all the music notes, good humor, and reality. I think I'll be back for more and hope t's soon. alanm ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 17:29:49 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Sampson Subject: Wordophilia ...or is that Word Ophelia???/ For the DATABASE: Chris Sampson, male, 30 years old (as of this coming Saturday), born/raised on Long Island, NY.... Hide and Seek (or Hide and go seek)....I don't know that we EVER actually USED the expression "Ally Ally Oxenfree" (though I've always heard it in my head as "Olly Olly Oxenfree"). BTW, it's Olly (or Ally) with the stress on the first syllable. And if it's Ally, then it's AL-lee, as opposed to Ally (pl. Allies (ant. Axis)) I remember a Peanuts comic strip with somebody correcting somebody else as to the correct words, and it went something like what's already been suggested (i.e., Olly Olly All Out are in free). We also played TAG, and EVERYONE knows how to do that, even the flashlight variant, I assume..... NEK-ro-FEE-lya (yeah, sorta like my lame joke at the beginning). BTW, ZO-o-FEE-lya (with 2 long Os as in joke) Never called it POP, only soda or even generalized Coke to mean just about ANY soda beverage. Water Fountain, as opposed to bubbler. Also drinking fountain. Here's one for the fire: Whattya call those elongated sandwiches with (usually) cold cuts layered thickly on them???? On Long Island, we called them HEROS, though some transplants called them Hoagies, or Subs or Torpedos. Two versions that I almost CAN'T get used to, one of which is a tragedy as it is the local variant, are: WEDGES (NO, not wedgEES!) [Used in Westchester County, NY, and, apparently, nowhere else] GRINDERS [Used here in Connecticut] Still other disputable pronunciations: Chocolate (is that chocklit, chockolit, chawklit, chawkolit???) Orange (AH-ranj, or AW-ranj??) Insurance (is that in-SHUR-ance, or EN-shur-ance?) This is a Pennsylvania question, mostly, I think. While we're on about Latin, can anyone suggest (and this is purely rhetorical, as there are no Romans about to correct us) pronunciations for the following???? Curriculum Vitae Semper Fi Bona Fide Well, I gotta go. Chris Sampson chris@neuron.uchc.edu ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 16:23:38 CST From: Gin and Clonic Subject: Just say NO2--or is it N2O? >Emily breeds a new bit of business from one of my old ones: > >> In memory of Morty, the _Northern Exposure_ moose. > >What? What? Has he shuffled off this mortal coil? Say it ain't so, Mitch! I could, but unfortunately it is. According to s short item in the Sunday paper, he succumbed to a copper and cobalt deficiency peculiar to moose in captivity. She goes on to say: > (Dave and I have agreed that as soon as we figure out the logistics, > we're going to get a moose. He will live in the front hall of > Dave's apartment, and can frighten off any would-be burglars.) Too bad they don't make life size cutouts of Norman Maclean, whose grandson, as a child, called him "moose," according to newspaper articles that surrounded the release of _A River Runs Through It_. Less risk of losing it to copper and cobalt deficiencies that way :-). WRT woj's comments on Socks: I do have the Keillor piece archived somewhere. Apparently, reports that he was restricted in his movements within the White House, as a result of allegedly clawing the redecoration work out of existence, were unfounded; though he was barred from the East Room, where he reportedly had shown great interest in a cake in the shape of the White House. Last week, a new stray cat parked itself in back of my place of residence, which from a distance looked much like Socks; the news that the real Socks is still in Washington confirms my hypothesis that Chicago is not the most efficient gate- way between Washington and Little Rock to begin with :-). Courtney dallases: >Well Mitch..having fun yet with our sociolingo ramblings???*grin* Was it ever otherwise? Of course, I can only dream of what I might have done with her original text had it not been creamed :-). Klaus kluges: >Haven't seen it mentioned on ecto before, though I haven't received >digests for ages (or so it seems), so let me tell you that Homeground >#50 is out and contains the 2nd part of the Ecto/Homeground interview >with Happy. I must say that I don't like how it has been edited into >english although I try to keep _my_ writing to english as well. But >why did they have to insert an 'u' in every 'favorite' when the >author is writing american english? What's the word on the street WRT when it'll be available Stateside? I want to be able to calculate when to make the special pilgrimage to Tower. But I always thought that it was writing like mine, rather than Klaus's, that most humans would conclude was in need of being transduced into English :-). As for the sui generis u's, my guess is that the copyeditors probably reduce everything to local specification. >Anyway, my copy of _The Straight Dope_ is lying around somewhere, albeit in >tatters from overuse. Maybe I'll check it out tonight and report back... > >Ethan As the cover of another notable tome said, don't panic :-). Brad comes up with an appealing mix of geography and tautology: :-) >I guess WV could be considered an eastern state but not the midwest! Actually, the Census classifies it as part of the South Atlantic region, though it's nowhere near the Atlantic. Ah, bureaucracy :-). Ian wonders out loud: >What's a soda fountain? My understanding is that they're known in Ian's area as milk bars. You might well look up the original Happy interview in the ecto archives to see if she ever mentions soda fountains, and then see what the _Homeground_ editors change it to :-). Michael engages in coffee talk: > Isn't it true that a regular coffee in other parts >of the country will result in a black coffee? Maybe I'm delusional >and making this up, but I don't think so. It's always been my sense that "regular coffee" in this area is a term of art for the kind from which the natural caffeine presence has not been extracted. I shall have to ponder whether regular coffee, when consumed to excess, leads one to worry whether one is delusional and making things up (I can remember when it was known simply as "coffee nerves"). :-) Looking forward to the return of Jeanne and Alan to these pages. WRT the speculation on who distributes Jane's early albums: I got my copies on tape in 1987; they stated, explicitly or implicitly, that the ultimate distrib- utor of Duke Street was A&M (who may have been handling the whole Windham Hill family of labels back then). This may or may not still be the case. Mitch ------------------------ "People tend to get a little upset with you when you bomb them." --Gen. Lew Mackenzie (Canadian army, ret.), WRT Bosnian Serb reaction to air strikes ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 16:36:58 CST From: Subject: Northern encomium A post to Usenet last week indicated that Kate and Anna McGarrigle were appointed to the Order of Canada. Kudos, eh? :-) Mitch ======================================================================== From: neilg@sfu.ca Subject: Re: babbling time again Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 14:34:19 -0800 (PST) Dan Riley writes: > I think that's Duke Street Records, and Windham Hill has always had the > US distribution rights for those early Jane albums; my vinyl copy of No > Borders Here, bought shortly after it came out, is Duke Street Records, > distributed in the US by Windham Hill... That sounds right to me... Duke Street having the Canadian distribution rights and Windham Hill the US distribution rights. I sure hope Duke Street hasn't been bought out. I doubt Windham Hill would do it, though - aside from Jane Siberry I can't think of anyone on Duke Street who'd fit into Windham Hill's catalogue very well. Besides, it'd make me grumpy to hear another Canadian company swallowed up. I just heard yesterday that IMAX, the company that makes those movie theatre setups so you can see four-storey high 70 mm movies (like the shark movie we saw in Baltimore's science centre, Holly :) has been bought out by some private American investors. Fnar. That bugs me. IMAX was one of those Canadian companies that received lots of Canadian government (ie: taxpayers like me) funding and now it's going to be a profitable cow for a bunch of wealthy foreigners. Grump grump. Oh, well. :\ - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 18:11:00 -0500 (EST) From: SANDOVAL@stsci.edu Subject: Hubble News Conference... Hi gang, Just a quick note to let everyone know that there will be a press conference tomorrow morning at 10:30 EST to announce the results of the Hubble Servicing Mission. I can't give any details before the conference, but be sure to try to catch it if you can. :) I'll try to post a summary of it afterwards tomorrow for all the non-US members, or people who will still be sleeping then. :) Take care, John ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 19:07:41 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (world serve your own needs) Subject: the ectofile reborn hey ectoids... i talked to martin dougiamas for a bit recently and offered to take the task of maintaining the ectofile from him. being preoccupied with his music (a most admirable pursuit - he hopes to have a tape of some sort together fairly soon), he accepted the offer. to refresh the memories of old folks and answer the questions of the new, the ectofile is a file of personal info on ectophiles. stuff like name, address, phone numbers and so forth. it's a voluntary thing and the file is only sent to ecto. you can provide as much or as little info as you wish as well. here's my entry, just as an example: Woj (Rob Woiccak) E-mail : woj@remus.rutgers.edu Address : 66 Suydam St #1, New Brunswick, NJ 08901-2727 USA Phone : +1 (908) 745-7486 Birthday : July 28, 1968 Passions : autumn nights, rainy days, dusty books, tape hiss, analog recordings, KaTe posters, sleeping on the living room floor, volleyball, music, music, music, meredith if you want to add your name to this database or update your info (send me a request if you want to see your current entry as i'd rather not inundate the list with the entire thing and blow the digest out of the water), please send me your entry, using the form above (adding, as i said, as much or as little as you wish). send it to me, not the list and please put the word ectofile in the subject line so i can separate that stuff from the rest of my mail more easily. +woj ======================================================================== From: r.lovejoy1@genie.geis.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 23:22:00 BST Subject: Ruminations on the absurd Greetings fellow chemists! Ian pointedly points out that NO2 is a dioxide. Guess I meant NO. Nitrous Oxide. Laughing gas. Twilight of the Molars. Whilst breathing selfsame substance and listening to Walkman with Rearmament had a wonderful Root Canal. Listening to Easy Listening station under same conditions not as much fun. Sorry to have confused you. Too much gas, I guess. On a more pleasant note, low E. Back again. Regarding the Ring Around The Rosy thread, we used to say "Ashes, Ashes, we all fall down". This was interpreted as the ashes that resulted from the fires used to burn the bodies of the plague victims. For a More Fun take on Plague, I suggest Firesign's "Waiting for the Electrician..." album's quiz programme "What's my disease?" (Or Something Like That)! SciFi song covers for Happy: How about "Purple People Eater" by Sheb Wooley (?) (Late 50's). :) A while back, I mentioned a few duets I'd like to see/hear. See here, how about Boy George and Jane Siberry? Today at lunch hour I went to the local Record Town. They had Warpaint and Equipoise, which surprised me, as they are generally quite limited in selection. I asked the droidette if they had One Dove, and she said they didn't carry it but had received a promo disc. She wasn't allowed to sell it, so she gave it to me! It contains four songs: White Love: Yes! (guitar paradise edit) Breakdown: in the same vein... (radio edit) Fallen: sounds a bit more like Madonna than Kate Why Don't You Take Me: more funky than the others. Overall, lots of samples. Mono drum sound, probably sampled. It reminded one of the audio engineers a little of Zooropa, but "not as clean". I really enjoy White Love; we'll see how the others wear! I hear they have a video out that gets played on 120 mins. but I haven't seen it. This concludes our broadcast for today. Tune in tomorrow, when you'll hear Uncle Bob say: "Now where'd I put that con-founded sock!!??!!" Uncle Bob is bought to you by Quarkies, the charming breakfast serial in yo face. +*************************************************************************+ + Robert Lovejoy + I've got a letter here postmarked Deep Space + + Deepspace + -The Firesign Theatre + + Cherry Hill, NJ + But baby I'm here and I've been quite an + + r.lovejoy1@genie.geis.com+ Alien too... + + kdvn07a on Prodigy + -Happy Rhodes + +*************************************************************************+ ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 19:45:13 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (world serve your own needs) Subject: ectopics been a little busy lately due to wintry weather (which is good for getting out of work early but not good for getting home at a reasonable rate), late volleyball games, massive shelf purchases and subsequent stuff-rearrangement and so forth. figured i'd catch up with ecto though since it's more interesting that most of the lists that i'm on... jeffw@triple-i.com (Jeff Wasilko) sez: >Could you describe the Julianna Hatfield 3? I've heard 'My Sister' on the >radio here in Boston (and I love it)--is that typical of them? the juliana hatfield 3 can be cynically described as the female bon jovi of "alternative" rock...both as a result of the music and the promotion. however, i'm not cynical (yeah, right). in absolute terms, they are melodic, not too offensive, occasionally noisy, guitar rock with female vocals. "my sister" is typical of their sound. for whatever reason, i think i like juliana hatfield's first solo album (_hey babe_) a bit better than the new one...but i can't say that i listen to it much. anyways. brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk (Jens P. Brage) sez: >The Cranes disk was quite a surprise: Much softer than I had >expected... based on what previous exposure? their earliest stuff, prior to _wings of joy_ was a lot noisier with harsh guitars and the lot. i've only heard a few tracks of that, one of which can be found on the melody maker cd compilation _gigantic 2_ (or was that new musical express?). >Btw., while I was in Australia I picked up a new book by `the >oft-discussed': "Faery in Shadow". ooh ooh! i've not seen that yet. i'm in the middle of her (c.j. cherryh for those who were wondering) latest paperback in the states, _the goblin mirror_, right now. farmer@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu (Chris Farmer) sez: >yep, its another in the nearly endless string of delurkers. welcome (belatedly) aboard the train to the asylum! >i forgot to unsuscribe over the three week xmas break - i came back and >was greeted with 571 messages! YIKES. there's a lesson to be learnt in >there somewheres... yup - the value of digests. ;) >i read them all, and being absurdly/anally thourough, didn't want to post >until after reading them all). that's not anal, that's common sense. >i don't have any idea how you all do >it and still maintain some semblence of a normal life (or do you? :) ). normal life? yeah, right. >how do i stretch my budget to actually BUY all theses cds..... some tips: - search those cutout bins - find a good used cd store near you - don't buy stuff from camelot, sam goody, musicland, record world, wall to wall, etc. i.e. any chain store. - if you have to buy new cds, find a store that sells new cds for around $11-13. if you can't find such a place, give noteworthy music a call (800-648-7972) and ask them to send you a catalog. they sell lots of major and big independant release for prices in that range and cheaper. >Vickie, where did you hear of Penelope Houston???!! thought she >had never been heard of outside the bay area the first i heard of her was when she was fronting the avengers (early cali-punk band). think they released only one album which was excellent if you like that kind of music. then her name popped up on a sampler of bay area artists that i picked up a year or so ago. that was about the time that _whole world_ appeared and all the talk started on ecto. Chris Sampson sez: > Whattya call those elongated sandwiches with (usually) cold cuts >layered thickly on them???? ah! this is an interest of mine (for some obscure reason). where i grew up, i called 'em "subs," which was short for submarine sandwiches (though we never called 'em that). hence the sandwich chain subway. you mentioned hoagies, heros and grinders, which i've heard. i hadn't heard of the wedges from westchester county. i've got two other names that you didn't have though: italians and scampis. both of these seems to be of local origin, the former in auburn, maine (ask meredith, i'm sure that she'd be happy to give you a full detailed explanation ;) and the latter from a town in new jersey. according to a woman i work with, the first place in that town to offer those saandwiches was called scampi's, hence the name. just to complete the picture, i say, "ally ally oxenfree" (must be a new york thing since that's where i grew up as well), "soda" (which is true throughout new york state except for buffalo), and "sneakers." i'm sure you all care. ;) +woj ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 19:55:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: for the record... Hi! I grew up in Maine (which, as woj maintains, explains many things about me ;). We played hide-and-seek, but the way we played it seems to be differ- ent from how everyone else here did. The game wasn't over until everyone was found, so once the seeker found the first hider the hider went back to home base (where the seeker counted from) and waited for everyone else to join them. This made the games go on quite a long time, and negated the need to yell anything resembling "ally ally oxenfree". Was this just a weird thing amongst my circle of friends? Or is it really a Maine thing? :) (Incidentally, I was rather muddled about the meaning of Happy's song at first, since I'd never played the right version of hide-and-seek. Guess I had a deprived childhood up there in the sticks.) I also call carbonated beverages soda. And a couch is a couch (NOT a sofa... gads), a paper bag is a paper bag (not a sack), etc. And "hospital" is not spelled "horsepital", despite my logical attempts to spell it thus in first grade, since my dad called an equine mammal a "hoss" when it was spelled "horse", it should follow that "horsepital" be correct, yes? Bzzzt. Oh well. My teacher knew my dad, so she understood. :) Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 20:06:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: for the record, part the second Hi again... Just read woj's post (I'm slowly catching up on a week's backlog of e-mail and reading new things as they come in... which is confusing...), and now I feel obligated to elaborate on the origin of the term "italian" for a long sandwich. There's a small chain of sandwich/pizza stores called Sam's in Maine. The first store was (still is) on Main St. in Lewiston, then they opened up another elsewhere in that town, then another across the river in Auburn, etc. I think there are a few in Portland now too, though the Italian market there was still secure in the clutches of Amato's last I heard. ANYway, Sam's bakes their own AMAZING sandwich bread, and they slap on cold cuts (usually ham or salami), American cheese, peppers, onions, pickles, tomatoes, salt, pepper, and finally vegetable oil and voila. Italian sandwich. You can recreate the innards, but you just can't do the bread, which is what makes Sam's Italians so special. Whenever I'm back on the old sod I make a point of making a pilgrimage to Sam's to get one, and I usually grab one for the road on my way out. :) My poor parents, who moved to Florida almost 8 years ago, have been pining for Italians ever since... they think they've found a bakery near them that can approximate the bread better than anyone else, though, so they are quite happy. S's always sold t-shirts and bumper stickers with the slogan, "Bring Home An Italian Tonight". ;) And their pizza sucks. So there you go. Sandwiches of the long variety are called Grinders here in Connecticut, no clue why. They'll always be Italians to me. Meredith (craving an Italian :) meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 21:18:01 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (world serve your own needs) Subject: reviews and such some things that i've been listening to lately: kampec dolores - eye of the needle (bahia music): a fairly insane mishmash of avant garde wirdness from a hungarian band that would probably be most liked by those who like bands like skeleton crew or no safety. they're fronted by this madwoman named kenderesi gabi who shrieks, sings and whispers her way across this album. she also supplies a haunting violin which adds a witchy feel to an otherwise very strange, disjointed and difficult album. as you might guess, i like this a lot but most people's mileage will vary. folks who are interested can try contacting the band at kampec dolores c/o gulya pal 1085 budapest baross u. 44. iv. 9. hungary or the record label at bahia music 1075 budapest sip u. 7. 11. 9/a hungary tel/fax +361 1159110 apparently this album is also distributed in england by voice of shade which can be reached at voice of shade po box 972 london se 24 opd england velvet belly - little lies (dbut): on the other hand, this norwegian band's second album is right up the alley of most ectophiles: etheriel, swirling guitars and synths with vocals by one anne marie almedal. i really enjoy this album - very interesting tectures which remind me of lots of other bands in this vein while staking out a feed that's all their own. they have a previous release which is entitled _colours_. both can be gotten from dbut records: dbut recordings box 9415 valerenga 0610 oslo norway tel +47 22176215 fax +47 22176225 the band itself can be reached at velvet belly smaslettene 102 4740 tveit norway dalbello - whoman foursays/she: neile sent me a tape of both of these albums (for which i thank her here!). i really didn't know what to expect since i had forgotten most of the earlier conversation regarding them (her?). i'm not sure how to describe dalbello either except to say that they remind me of a edgier t'pau crossed into y tori kant read dealing with issues in their songs in a direct, realistic and often uncompromising way. that's pretty incoherent i imagine. musically, it's pop rock with a heavy reliance on synths from somewhere in the 80s but the music isn't the focus. the lyrics, sung in a growly, spiky voice, are where dalbello is at. listening to these albums makes me uncomfortable, though i'm not sure why. worth checking out. various - back to the garden: another treat from neile, this is a tribute to joni mitchell which is chock full with interesting covers of joni tunes by lots of canadian bands and artists including martha and the muffins (whose rendition of "shades of scarlet conquering" is just plain brilliance), sara craig, spirit of the west and sloan to name some folks whose names will be recognized. some folks whose names should be recognized include universal honey (happy-go-lucky pop ala lava love), molly johnson (haunting mellowness) and jenny whitely (sorta kinda down home-ish rock). lots of other good stuff here too - after only one listen, i think i'm just going to have to find this on disc. other tidbits: skinnerbox's track "whisper parade" appears on a new compilation of tuscon, arizona bands called _but it's a dry heat_. i can't remember if this is a new song or not, but i'm glad to see that they're still active. wfmu, a freeform radio station out here in jersey, produced a 2cd compilation of live recordings from on-air performances for use as pledgebait during their last membership drive. while there is a lot on there that probably isn't of much interest, one thing that is one track from suzanne vega's first ever radio performance: a rendition of "neighborhood girls" from 1981! whoowee! (the earliest recording of hers that i had found previously was from 1984.) she sounds so young and unsure of herself on this recording. it's quite a remarkable recording but, alas, the compilation is not for sale. dunno if wfmu still has copies around that they'll send you in return for a contribution, but you can probably ask them. they can be reached at +1 201 648 7743. think that's it for now. +woj ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 22:47:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: stuff Hi! The ultimate test of a laptop computer screen is the state of your eyeballs after a marathon net.session. I'm going on four hours here (thbacklog was scary!) and they're both in their sockets, so I guess I'm safe. :) Yes, I'm computified again! I managed to hook up with a Zenith laptop with the works for a ridiculously low price, so now I am quite happy. I've wanted a laptop for a while (it's far from a notebook, though- it's a couple years old and is thus relatively clunky, but I don't care), and this one just sort of appeared in my life and said "take me, the payment terms are good." Yay. A few random comments: Bob, your comment about strange dreams after watching Northen Exposure rang true- I had one of those totally f*cked up dreams Monday night that went on all night and wasn't done when the alarm went off, and was so vivid and disturbing it went through my mind all day. There are a few dreams like that I remember from years and years and years ago, and I have a feeling this one is going to stick with me as well. It had to do with people I haven't seen in a long time and a rather bizarre situation, and was just generally strange. No bits about pushing Happy's ar, though. :) Twilight of the Molars. If you get a chance, see the movie _The Summer House_. Stars Leah Headey, Jeanne Moreau, and Joan Plowright, is set in 1950's Croydon, and has some of the best lines I've heard in a long time, none of which make sense out of context. I knew nothing about it before seeing it save for one really bad review, but it turns out the reviewer totally missed the point that the film is supposed to be a British comedy. I liked it, a lot. I'm going to have to see it several more times, I think. And if you're into 17th-century cellos, check out the soundtrack to the film _Tous les matins du monde_, which is about Marin Marais and features mostly his music. Perfect for a snowy evening and a cup of Sleepytime tea. Or, if Renaissance music is more your style, _Venetian Vespers_ is for you. It's a 2 CD set purporting to be how Vespers at St. Mark's in Venice would have sounded on the Feast of the Annunciation in 1643, and features the music of Monteverdi, Rigatti, Grandi, and Cavalli. Breathtaking, and now on sale through the BMG Classical Club for half price! :> It's on the Detusce Gramophon Archiv label. Not into that? Ready for a depressing mind-blow? Listen to _The Red Shoes_, then put on _The Kick Inside_. Sigh. My, how the mighty have fallen. New Haven hasn't found God. I slipped through a slush storm on my way home from work today to check out every record store in town, and no sign of Tori's new single. Sam Goody said their shipments come in on Thursday, so there's hope for tomorrow, but not much. When I didn't get a blank stare and "Tori who?" I got amazement that she has a new album coming out, never mind a new single supposedly out already. Maybe something happened with the shipment. (Maybe this friendship with Neil Gaiman is going a bit too far- SANDMAN #57 was a month late coming out, last time I checked. :/) Personal to Graham: My note to you bounced, but are you and Wollongong okay? The news reports out of the Sydney area last week were truly frightening, and I was worried about you! Meredith (still craving an Italian sandwich) meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 20:29:39 -0500 From: farmer@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu (Chris Farmer) Subject: penlope & medieval stuff Hello again - to clear up a few penelope houston questions which were raised -- >I've got _The Whole >World_ and _Birdboy_ (I like both, but _Birdboy_ edges out TWW as my >favourite. What is Silk Purse? Is that the video or is there another disc?? let's see.... penelope albums: birdboys (cd, and vinyl) live in 'frisco (live tape) 500 lucky pieces (studio tape) the whole world (cd, vinyl) silk purse from sows ear (new german cd) (had no idea about the linda ronstadt connection) there are also three singles, but they don't contain any new tracks or versions. there is a concert video filmed by husband/mandolin player (i don't have it). i can get a list of the tracks on the various things if there is interest (the tracks from the two tapes are mostly covered by the later cds). all these are still available - i have the address at home of how to get them if wanted (she is now with id records). >the first i heard of her was when she was fronting the avengers (early >cali-punk band). think they released only one album which was excellent >if you like that kind of music. then her name popped up on a sampler of yeah, i got the avengers tape and i like it (forget to mention a secret vice of loving to go to hardcore shows), and its quite interesting to listen to the punk vs. the folk versions of corpus christi. i also have a tape of her songs of the bay area compiliation - didn't realize that it had that wide of distribution. guess i'm still thinking to darn small. :) enough about penelope (well....:) ) on to other stuff -- Much Thanks Meredith for the hanta tip. luckily i think the UCSB library gets that magazine. i'll check it tomorrow. >...so, another Medieval music fan on ecto??? Or just a fan of Anonymous >Four? > >Meredith (B.A. Medieval Studies ;) well, i'm a fan, but without the money to indulge. the stuff i like, i like ALOT, but my knowledge/experience is so sketchy its hard for me to chose what to buy. i've always liked the choral shows of medieval music that i've gone to, and hearing Anonymous 4 on the radio prompted me to go and buy the cd. another group which just came to santa barbara was Bimbetta - 3 sopranos, a harpist and a celloist. i was going to go -- but unfortunately, the infamous "something came up" came up :). have you heard of them? or any other recomendations from that genre for _The List_? chris (B.S. Zoology, minor in Medieval Studies - you wanna talk about weird looks when people read your resume!) **************************************************************** * Chris Farmer (805) 893-2532 |let me help you off with your * * Biology Dept., UCSB |golden chains / we'll throw * * Santa Barbara, CA 93106 |them in the river... * * farmer@lifesci.ucsb.edu | -penelope houston * **************************************************************** ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)