Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #389 ecto, Number 389 Monday, 4 January 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: ecto #386 Well pooh! Yesterday was your birthday frend... Today's your birthday friends.... Yep, today is your birthday friends... Steam CD5 Steam and fire :) My second (sort of) Happy experience ... Depressing Happy songs Ecto Pilgrimage Re: Step inside....experience the other side vicki Fluff (tm) [Kimberly Stauffer AMSTE-LGS 4900 : another forwarded post from Kimberly :) Re: Unlikely coincedence! ======================================================================== Date: 02 Jan 1993 15:41:10 -0500 (EST) From: tlb@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us (Tracy Barber) Subject: Re: ecto #386 EC>Subject: online again EC>From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) EC>Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 23:50:39 GMT EC>Tracy asked: EC>> EC> Klaus: Pete Bardens, "Man Alive", from "Seen One Earth", 1987 EC>> What about the title track from Barden's album? Love the Moog... EC>Sure, it's great. I had a hard time selecting just one song. :) EC>So you might be one of the small number of people who don't think that EC>I'm talking about cigarettes when mentioning Camel. You got it... I'm a big fan of the Moog stuff and will go out of my way to get an album... . Some of the other stuff found therein isn't as appealing, but he's a more than adequate keyboardist... BTW, most of the stuff on the new Happy CD will be the same equipment: synths, synths, and more synths! Along the same lines as the last 5. Is that a takeoff from the first 4? tlb --- * SLMR 2.0 * A yawn is a silent shout. ---- Tracy Barber tlb@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198) ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 1:26:18 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Well pooh! Yesterday was your birthday frend... ...and I missed it, but I hope it was a wonderful day! HAPPY (belated) BIRTHDAY to Marvin Camras!! Vickie ======================================================================== Subject: Today's your birthday friends.... From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 14:17:35 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *************** ***HAPPY******* ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ******************* *** Jeanne Schreiter ** *** Euan Robertson **** *********************** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * New or changes made since last post Marvin Camras Sat January 1 1916 Tapehead Jeanne Schreiter Tue January 3 1967 Capricorn Euan Robertson (Xolf)Wed January 3 1973 LordOfTheNeverKnown Greg Bossert Tue January 9 1962 OfTheTimes Chris Sampson Wed January 15 1964 Void where prohibited Ken Taylor Tue January 21 1969 Aquarius Terry Partis Sun January 22 1933 Rocker Sean Casey Thu January 25 1962 ICB Tim Devine Tue February 3 1970 Aquarius Stephen Thomas Fri February 4 1966 Aquarius Gene Sady Tue February 7 1956 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank Christine Waite Fri February 25 1972 Pisces Christine Kennel Sat March 2 1963 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham John Baker Tue March 24 1964 Berkeley Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Warpaint Mon April 1 1991 Brilliant! Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Stephen Golden Sat April 10 1971 Jokey Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Angelos Kyrlidis Fri April 22 1966 Taurus Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Pablo Iglesias Thu April 23 1964 Positive Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Gray Abbott Tue May 3 1955 Suprised Mark Semich Thu May 6 1965 Yield Joe Dembski Wed May 7 1952 Rumple Brian Gregory Thu May 9 1963 Eclectic Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Taurus Beth Perry Tue May 21 1957 Glad Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 2 1966 Kaksoset Ronald Hogan Tue June 16 1970 Bloomsday * Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing ListTue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Ken Kindler Mon June 23 1969 Cancer John M. Wheeler Sun June 23 1968 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Courtney Dallas Fri July 9 1971 Cat Michael Peskura Sat July 9 1949 HallOfFamer Shelly Sun July 10 1966 Cancer Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer John Zimmer Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Cathy Guetzlaff Mon July 18 1955 Cancer David Koehler Mon July 25 1966 Leo Tom Johnson Mon July 25 1966 Leo Rob Woiccak (woj) Sun July 28 1968 Leo John Relph Sat July 28 1962 Leo Bob Kollmeyer Wed July 28 1971 Leo Mark Carroll Fri July 29 1966 Hacker Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Happy Rhodes Mon August 9 1965 HolyGhost Ron Hill Tue August 11 1964 Leo Vickie Mapes Wed August 15 1956 Giddy Martin Dougiamas Wed August 20 1969 Positive Dan Segel Tue August 31 1965 Virgo Jorn Barger August 32 1953 Neon Meredith Tarr Wed September 1 1971 Virgo David Blank-Edelman Sat September 9 1967 Neon Chris Williams Tue September 20 1960 Neon 3-D Computer-generated Tim Breitkreutz Wed October 7 1964 Libra Dan Riley Sun October 8 1961 Libra Neile Graham Wed October 8 1958 pen Brian Bloom Tue October 14 1969 Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Jessica Dembski Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Katie Dougiamas Sat November 2 1974 Scorpio Jens Brage Sun November 8 1964 Scorpio Rising Steve Potter (Skaludy) Mon November 9 1964 Scorpio M. Nuno de FigueiredoFri November 11 1966 Scorpio Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Elizabeth W. Warwick Sun November 15 1964 Scorpio Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Alan Ezust Fri November 21 1969 Earth Moving Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 5 1968 Sagittarius Henry Kilmer Wed December 11 1968 CallMeHank Shelby Sun December 13 1970 Roscoe the Frog Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Karl Dotzek Sat December 30 1961 Capricorn Stuart Castergine Mon December 30 1963 You Are Here * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- If anyone wants to be added to this list, or change their "sign" just e-mail me with the information...if you don't know what day you were born on, I can figure it out if you give the year of birth. Thanks! _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.w.open.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 18:19:24 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Yep, today is your birthday friends... ...except for maybe in some exotic locale that's far away from this place I'm at now. HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Jeanne and Euan!! Vickie ps, Jeanne, thanks for the Christmas card! ======================================================================== Subject: Steam CD5 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 19:30:03 EST From: Angelos Kyrlidis Hi, I know it's been a while since this issue came up, but since the CD5 came out recently, let me point out that it contains: a) Steam (Lp version) b) Games without frontiers (Massive/DB mix) c) Steam (Oh, Oh, Let off steam mix 12") (6:40) d) Steam (Oh, Oh, Let off steam mix dub) (5:42) The re-mix of Games Without Frontiers features a new vocal (I think) and is really good. Worth buying the CD5 for this alone. As for the Steam remix, it's dancy alright, but nothing *really* exciting. I think the reworking of Steam called 'Quiet Steam' was better. Angelos 'See the smoke and cinders fly, feels as if I'm on fire Just another jealous guy, looking for a bonfire'-TR ======================================================================== Subject: Steam and fire :) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 19:45:43 EST From: Angelos Kyrlidis Me again, The moment I sent out the previous message, the fire alarm in the building I live in went on, and a moment later the fire engines arrived. COuld it be the .sig I used? The PG song? I wonder. Now everything's quiet again, but the whole building, including my apartment smells of burnt cheese... :) Just an oddity to add to the growing collection of ecto coincidences.;) Angelos [No combustible .sig this time...] ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: My second (sort of) Happy experience ... Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 12:00:23 EST > > > The Happy sampler I sent to Chris Boek (oh no, not *another* Chris! :) : > There's a few of us around I suppose *:). > > Given In I Am A Legend > > Possessed Becase I Learn > > I'll Let You Go Rhodes Waltz > > Case of Glass Ally Ally Oxenfree > > The First To Cry Would That I Could > > The Wretches Gone Awry If So > > The Flaming Threshold Ecto > > Suicide Song Ode > > The Revelation Poetic Justice > > Under And Over the Brink Feed The Fire > > Let Me Know, Love Phobos > > Not For Me Words Weren't Meant For Cowards > > Noone Here > > Take Me With You > > I Have A Heart > > Great sampler! I'll be *really* interested in hearing what Chris thinks > once the lyrics start coming into focus. Most of these are among Happy's > most depressing songs. Wonderful stuff! > Well after a little while of listening, I suppose it's time to continue the saga of a Happy-novice's discovery. The lyrics still aren't completely in focus, but then I don't have them in front of me to read, although the lyrics have stood out in some of the tracks. The tracks which I think I like the best are 'If So', 'Ecto' and 'The Wretches Gone Awry'. I dunno why *:). I probably like some of the others a lot too, but I haven't associated all the good feeling songs with names yet *:). I think I can see why Vickie says they are the most depressing songs ... listening to the lyrics of 'The First to Cry', 'Noone Here', and others (or at least what I can understand of the lyrics) gives me that distinct impression. Mind you, depressing songs somehow tend to be the most emotional songs, and it's the emotion in a song that usually attracts me to it. I am very much a listener 'by feel', and often can't explain why it is that I like something. I feel that way about Happy's music, and my predictions that it would become part of my musical 'staple diet' if you like, have proven more or less correct. I can still listen to it with the same enthusiasm as when I first heard it, if not more so, and there isn't that much music I can say that about. Oh well, enough gratuitous praise for one morning *:), I'll just have to wait now while all the discs threaten to appear in the mail. HAPPY New Year all. Chris. -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 20:42:59 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Depressing Happy songs Christopher writes: > The tracks which I think I like the best are 'If So', 'Ecto' and 'The > Wretches Gone Awry'. I dunno why *:). I probably like some of the > others a lot too, but I haven't associated all the good feeling songs > with names yet *:). Goodie, infidelity, ghostly beings and ultimate psychic pain! You have a knack for this and I have no more worries about your not liking the more depressing lyrics! > I think I can see why Vickie says they are the most depressing songs ... > listening to the lyrics of 'The First to Cry', 'Noone Here', and others > (or at least what I can understand of the lyrics) gives me that distinct > impression. Mind you, depressing songs somehow tend to be the most > emotional songs, and it's the emotion in a song that usually attracts > me to it. I am very much a listener 'by feel', and often can't explain > why it is that I like something. I feel that way about Happy's music, > and my predictions that it would become part of my musical 'staple diet' > if you like, have proven more or less correct. I can still listen to it > with the same enthusiasm as when I first heard it, if not more so, and > there isn't that much music I can say that about. I sigh all over this entire paragraph, Christopher. Thank you for it. Ummm, I have a little story to tell, and some of it has to do with Happy's depressing lyrics. It will come shortly after this one. It's actually a very depressing story, so I thought I would warn people in advance. Jessica's putting it into a digest by itself so anyone who might want to delete it or skip it, won't have to worry about missing anyone else's posts. This is a serious one, and anyone who is interested will finally find out why I've been so strange at times. :-) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 17:32:44 PST From: spotter@darwin.bio.uci.edu (Steve Potter) Subject: Ecto Pilgrimage Well, I finally decided to get Ecto. It was a gorgeous blue day today, after at least a week of gloom and rain. It inspired me. I called some record stores (CD stores? What do we call them these days?) and, after several expected disappointing (but expected) negtatives, I found a Tower in El Toro (10 mi south of Irvine) that said they had It. Hurray! It was so nice out, I decided to bike it. Good thing, too, as you will soon see. I found a new bikeway on the way there. In fact, it was so new, it sort of ended rather abruptly into a cement wall of an overpass. Around the corner of the wall was a climbing course some locals has made, another find. It consisted of many rocks epoxied to the vertical concrete wall, just far enough apart and small enough to be _almost_ impossible to climb on. The Tower had an excellent selection of albums, and some really off-beat videos, too. They had TWO WHOLE Ectos, TWO WHOLE Warpaints, and even TWO WHOLE Warpaint cassettes. They were pretty enthusiastic about ordering the others as well. I read the lyrics while lunching at Wendy's. Great stuff, as I expected! I'm listening to it now and so far, it living up to my very high expectations. And oh yeah! I almost forgot to tell you about my third find: Biking back I found a $10 bill in the gutter! So, the CD was only $4! Such a deal :) (She's singing "My ears have parasites...") Skaludy spotter@darwin.bio.uci.edu ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 0:14:49 EST From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: Step inside....experience the other side Vickie says: > Please don't read this unless you're in the mood to be thoroughly > depressed. I'll tell you right away that this is about sexual abuse. > It's my story and it's an attempt to explain why I've been so > melancholy lately in Ecto. I realize that posting such a long > article about myself is terribly self-indulgent, but I hope it > won't cause any problems. i would not say that i am in the *mood* to be thoroughly depressed, but i certainly *am* thoroughly depressed. however, this post did not add to my depression -- on the contrary, Vickie, your courage and honesty makes me feel a bit better about this human race stuff... and while i appreciate your graciousness in apologizing for the length of the post (and your asking to have it put into a separate digest), the truth is that Ecto is basically an exercise in indulgence -- think of all the time, effort, and resources that have been donated to allow us to discuss Happy and an ever-widening circle of associated ideas. to use up some of those resources on something as important as the things you are talking about here is hardly a cause for apologies... > As a disclaimer, I want to say right at the beginning that I realize > that my problems don't mean anything to anyone else but me, and that > those problems are miniscule compared to the horrors that some people > have been through. Personally, I'd rather have all my problems than > be a starving, dying child in Somalia. One child in a war zone is going > through more horror than I can possibly imagine. I don't want anyone > to think that I'm full of "oh poor me and no one else matters" junk. > I'm having to deal with all this because it's affecting my life and > relationships with people, but I do put it in perspective, believe me. i believe it is useless to try to rank or compare tragedies (or joys, for that matter). it is certainly likely that many of us here on ecto cannot even imagine the horrors suffered by those in this world who are without food, shelter, freedom of thought and action, perhaps without any chance of hope. but i think any unhappiness is significant, however personal or limited in scope. our pain will always spill out into the world -- it is my belief that our efforts to understand that pain, and by doing so free ourselves of it will likewise spill out, and perhaps like the flutter of a butterfly's wings will cause unsuspected storms of joy in distant places... > Why do I want to even bring up this stuff in Ecto? A few reasons. > First because I feel safe and liked here. Even though Ecto has grown > to be pretty darn big, I think that Happy, Tori and Kate's music > attracts people who are compassionate and caring. Second, as a test of > strength for myself. I've been giving off all kinds of clues that > something is very wrong with me, and it's time I either came out and > said what the problem is, or be completely happy-sounding while writing > to Ecto in the future. Since I can't guarantee that I won't let any > more melancholy posts slip through (I couldn't, I'd have to unsubscribe > and I sure don't want to do that) then I guess I need to get it out in > the open. I might regret it, but I'm hoping that eventually I'll be a > stronger person for doing it. i have been very quiet on Ecto for a while, and my virtual disappearance has caused a number of problems with the HBP and concert tapes, not to mention the concern and frustration of my friends. i am not sure that i am free or able to share my concerns and confusions at this point, much as i would like to follow Vickie's example -- i may be yet too close to the center of the problem to say anything coherent anyway... i would be tempted to go against my above comments and say that my problems are small compared to those Vickie shares, but the ramifications (like *sigh* getting fired) are just as dehabilitating, so i guess i was right after all ;) however, given that i can't quite follow Vickie's example, i am nonetheless very very glad that the example exists... > If you've read this far, thank you. Any support/comments will be *more* > than welcomed. It would be hard to face near total silence. That would > make me all the more self-concious and embarrassed. I mean, if this post > has made you uncomfortable, just imagine how bad I feel for having made > you uncomfortable. I apologize if I've upset anyone. > > Vickie mm, i *know* i have upset people by disappearing, and i do apologize. and to Vickie (and any and all else) i send *hugs* and love and footahs... -greg -- bossert@vizlab.rutgers.edu -- you don't want to hurt me but see how deep the bullet lies unaware i'm tearing you asunder oh there is thunder in our hearts is there so much hate for the ones we love? tell me we both matter don't we? -- Kate Bush this is what i need this is where i want to be but i know that this will never be mine -- Kate Bush I have never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world -- Happy Rhodes i said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope for hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love for love would be love of the wrong thing; but the faith and the hope and the love are all in the waiting wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought: so the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing. -- T.S. Eliot ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 00:19:54 EST From: markp@serpens.sbi.com (Mark P*) Subject: vicki I just wanted to say that I thought you were very brave to post that Vicki. Post on. Marc Power markp@sbi.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 07:40:19 MST From: dbx@teton.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Fluff (tm) Greetings, I don't know why everyone was talking about the best albums of 1992 last month. I prefer to wait until the year is over. :) Now that it is, I will add my comments. I have too porous a memory to make up the traditional list of my ten favorite 1992 albums. I also have a huge backlog of 1992 albums that I haven't listened to yet. So I'll just single out a few albums no one else has mentioned. Two albums are not Ecto-style artists, even though they tackle Ecto-style subjects. Lou Reed's _Magic and Loss_ isn't even really music and/or lyrics, but is certainly a powerful statement about dying, death, and the people left behind. Neil Young's _Harvest Moon_ also continues his recent string of great albums, with an album often reflecting on keeping love in the long haul. Some Ectophile also mentioned that albums you hear for the first time in a year could be counted as new albums, which gives me an excuse to mention my favorite "new" album of the year, _Jane Siberry_ (her debut album), which is simply brilliant, beginning to end. To single out any of the songs for praise unjustly leaves out the others. No clinkers here, rare for any debut album. How about the best concerts of 1992? Three stood out for me (unordered): 18 Mar 1992 Happy Rhodes at the QE2 in Albany NY 22 Mar 1992 Happy Rhodes at the Harrison Auditorium in Philadelphia PA 22 Aug 1992 Melissa Etheridge at the Red Rocks Amphitheatre in Denver CO Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== From: special K Subject: Fluff (tm) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 10:01:10 EST Doug said: > How about the best concerts of 1992? Three stood out for me (unordered): > 18 Mar 1992 Happy Rhodes at the QE2 in Albany NY > 22 Mar 1992 Happy Rhodes at the Harrison Auditorium in Philadelphia PA > 22 Aug 1992 Melissa Etheridge at the Red Rocks Amphitheatre in Denver CO 11 Jul 1992 kd lang at George Mason University in Fairfax, VA 30 Oct 1992 kd lang at the Richmond Mosque in Richmond, VA 31 Oct 1992 kd lang at Raleigh Memorial in Raleigh, NC And I *still* didn't see her enough times! Oh, btw, she's on Arsenio Hall tonight (Jan 4). She usually sings 2 songs and gets a fair amount of interview time. Arsenio *loves* her! special K ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 13:44:48 EST From: jessica Subject: [Kimberly Stauffer AMSTE-LGS 4900 : I tihnk this was meant to go to the list :) --jessica --------------- Received: from ns1.rutgers.edu by hardees.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA01696; Thu, 31 Dec 92 09:03:14 EST Received: from APG-9.APG.ARMY.MIL by ns1.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA08933; Thu, 31 Dec 92 09:03:09 EST Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 9:02:59 EST From: Kimberly Stauffer AMSTE-LGS 4900 To: Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net Cc: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: Finally-Happy/Funny Story/My Analysis-Opinion Message-Id: <9212311403.aa23637@APG-9.APG-9.APG.ARMY.MIL> Hi Love Hounds and Ectophiles, Well, FINALLY! I finally found a store that had a Happy Rhodes CD - and they let me sample it (they only had Warpaint though- but this is a step in the right direction, I suppose). After listening (actually - were not listening here we are reading, arn't we) to all the discussion about this Happy person, Happy vs. Kate, Kate vs. Happy, Happy doing Kate (not to mention Tori vs. Kate, Kate vs. Tori, Tori's piano capabilities vs. Kates, etc......) I have been on a mission to find Happy's music, so I was very "happy" when I found that one lone CD. For anyone who lives near Baltimore and may be looking I found Warpaint a place in Towson called AN DIE MUSIK (german maby), 1 Investment Place, Towson, MD 410-2.9.MUSIC. FUNNY STORY Well, there I was with this warpaint CD in hand, so I asked the salesperson if I could hear it and low and behold they actually had 2 CD/Headphone sampling areas.....I put on the head phones and began to listen. In the background, (outside of my headphones), the store had a hauntingly familiar female vocalist playing. And I thought, who is that playing---while at the same time I was trying to hear and concentrate on Happy....but I had to keep pulling away the headset to also listen to that female vocalist playing---so I went over to the counter to see what the CD was that was Currently being played and wouldn't you all know it, it was T___ ! (Did you guess, ??) Yes it was Tori. After all this dialog about Tori and Happy I thought it a bit ironic that when I actually did find Happy's music Tori was playing at the same time. (Does anyone else think that is odd)? Big deal most of you may say-but, I have only heard Ms.Tori on the radio so I don't really know her stuff that well, therefore, I was, needless to say also interested in hearing her music as well. So, I was comparing and contrasting Tori at the same time that I was hearing Happy while somewhere in the back far reaches of my mind I was thinking "Kate/is this Katelike/Kate,Kate,Kate). ANALYSIS/OPINION Ok, here goes. Happy Rhodes, my immediate reaction was............... ...................................................................... um, uhm............... Now Tori on the other hand...................... ...............captured me, yes - thats a good way to put it her music was capturing, I will buy Little earthquakes, definately. Oh, yeah Happy....................Well, I liked her music. I like most female artists (I said most, not all). I like anything from folk-Joan Armatrating (did I murder her name) to Siouxsie, to Cocteau Twins, to Enya (and I used to really like/now my opinion probably wouln't be respected anymore when I say this artist, but what are opinions for anyway/this was before I knew what else was out in the world/Stevie Nicks---ouh, oh, ouu-I can feel the rocks and bitter curses). But with Happy I found myself listening for her to sound like Kate. Now maby this is unfair. Maby I should just have been listening for her to sound like Happy but if I was listening for her to sound like Kate it is all of YOURRRRR faults ("smile" now/this is all in good humor). I found "Lay me down" and "Words weren't made for Cowards" to sound very very much like Ms. Bush. Happy finds that high clear sweet crystal Kate like pitch that so attracts me to Kate. The other songs were all very throaty and the pitch was flatter (not high a clear), but I like flat, I guess I just like high, and clear more. I would buy Warpaint (I will buy warpaint) but first I would like to hear her older stuff, Rhodes I, II, Rearmament, and then Ecto. I would also (will also) buy Little Earthquakes first and if Kate produces in early 93, say January 93 I would buy Kate before Tori or Happy, but only because I know and love Kates music dearly - I think Tori and Happy have the potential with me (say in 5 years, thats how long Ive know of Kate) to be long lasters-well see. Hope I have amused you all and not disturbed any. Just had to share. **Has any one ever heard of either of these two artists. - Bell Canto >Unicorn -P.J. Harvey >Dress I have caught both of them only quickly on a college radio station before they faded out - sounded good. I swear Bell Canto sounded like the lead from the Cocteau Twins and P.J. harvey was a folksey mix of Vega/10,000 M's and the lead singer from the Throwing Muses. Bye All Kim Stauffer "Don't put your foot on the heartbreak". (The salesperson from AN DIE MUSIK did confirm that about two years ago our own Ms. Bush did fly to the states, CA or somewhere like that, for some special reason - was it recording purposes? He said that his buddy went to where ever she was to get a bunch of autographs from her). ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 13:48:09 EST From: jessica Subject: another forwarded post from Kimberly :) I tihnk this also was meant to go to ecto, and I don't think it made it. Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 9:46:04 EST From: Kimberly Stauffer AMSTE-LGS 4900 Subject: More on Happy Hi, Since my post on thursday 31 Dec "Finally-Happy/Funny Story/My Analysis - Opinion", I have heard more Happy. I record a show (on NPR) called ECHOS by John D. LaBerto, its very good, covers many new age, and female artists. Last night I recorded the show (didn't stay up to hear it-went to bed while recording) and on my way to work this morning I popped the tape in to hear it. As I was skipping forward I came in on a female vocalist that I thought was new Kate stuff, so I rewinded to the beginning of the song and -wow- it was Happy. I think it was something like all alone ? or nobody here? from, I believe HRII? Anyways, it is odd how in half of the song she sounds very folksy (10000 M's, Joan Armarating...) singing in a flat voice and then in parts of the song she is very high very Kate sounding. Interesting........................................ Kinda neat to have an unexpected suprise on your way to work. I think I'll have to buy HR eariler stuff first. Bye ========== ========= ========= =========== ========= ======================================================================== From: Yli-Krekola Perttu Subject: Re: Unlikely coincedence! Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 21:11:10 EET Hello Ecto people! Happy New Year for all of you! I've been a bit silent here lately (I think my last ecto-post was in autumn 1991). In the beginning of the 1992 I was transfered to a delivery support job (we deliver GSM mobile telephone networks) and as most of our custoimers are abroad that's where I've been too. I spent 1/4 of last year in Austria, England and Hong Kong which was too much to keep up with ecto not to mention posting here. 1993 seems equally bad (or good when it comes to the mortgage payments). I'm planning at the moment moving to Holland for about a year possibly in May or June. If this will happen I'll let you know. Vickie, thank you for writing: > "George Williams from Okeechobee Lions Club met members of Up With People > at Flagler Park during the Christmas festival. Mr. Williams, from left, > greets Riikka-Leena Yli-Krekola and Jarmo Lahti, of Finland." > > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > YOW!! There she was, right in front of my face! Riikka-Leena!! > Perttu's sister!! It's just too cool! To come face-to-face (sort of) > with an Ectophile (well, former) out of the blue like that, I mean, > what are the odds?? It's a small world. Riikka's been in the States since last July and the tour has lead her from Tucson,AZ west to L.A. then north all the way to Washington then across the Midwest states down to Florida where they had the Christmas break. Since they are on the road most of the time I've been talking to her only two times over phone since July (the first time she called from L.A. at 4 am and I was only half concious). So, it was wonderful to read all this from ecto! > Perttu, the next time you're in contact with Riikka-Leena, tell her > about this, and tell her that I think she's very cute! (Chris says > he's going to try and scan this photo in to put in the archives, > she'll probably have a fit! Oh yeah, I did photocopy the photo :-)) I faxed your post to her right away (also tried to call but she wasn't there). She surely will enjoy reading it. Re: Step inside >I also know that this state is not permanent. I don't see >the light at the end of the tunnel, but I know it's there. (I look at it >as an Alaskan night. I know the daylight's coming, but it's taking a >*long* time to come. In the meantime I have to cope, and work it out as >best I can. I read your post here in the middle of a Finnish version of an "Alaskan night". Yesterday was still grey and dark but I already saw a glimpse of sunshine today. The spring must be coming soon. -- Perttu ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)