Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #141 ecto, Number 141 Friday, 31 January 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Rainbirds et al Two more bits What's this mean? fluff'n'stuff ectoghettios newcomer Lots of Fuzzy Fluff & Stuff A Vickie-Vickie hatches a plot! HGP Reactions ======================================================================== Date: 30-JAN-1992 17:21:49.65 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Rainbirds et al Hi! Jessica, you haven't heard anything good from Katharina Franck until you've heard Rainbirds' second album, _Call Me Easy, Say I'm Strong, Love Me My Way, It Ain't Wrong_. That's admittedly the silliest album title of recent years, if not all time, but the music on it is good. To quote the friend who got me into this band: "It starts out great, gets a little eh in the middle, but ends with a crash! It's amazing!" The final three songs are simply wonderful- and the title track, nestled within a 10-minute mini-concept- piece entitled "Sea of Time", shows so much Pink Floyd influence, it's hysterical. My favorite thing about Rainbirds is the possibilities when you play the "Pick out the influences" game. Makes listening that much more of an experience. :) (Klaus, I'm sure, will have his own views on this topic. Speaking of whom, Klaus, am Sonntag will ich ein Konzertbericht lesen! :) Mitch, your post was, as usual, enlightening. I have since found out the definition of Mesomorph. Vocabulary is such a weird thing- this afternoon I was tutoring a 9th-grader in English, and one of his vocabulary words was one I'd never heard before! Made him feel better, but I wasn't too psyched with myself. "Obstreperous": noisy, rude, bothersome. Like some gaffans we know. ;) Vickie, I tried to print out your Happy-SiG-SaGa, but the system lost it. As a result, I won't be reading it until it appears in the archives, so you don't have to worry about it being a spoiler for me! I know what my favorite songs from _Ecto_ are now, but unfortunately I still don't know all the titles. I'll check this out and post the results this weekend, I promise... *---------------------------------------------* | Meredith Tarr | | *** | | "Living in the gap between past and future" | | *** | | mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu | *---------------------------------------------* ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 30 Jan 92 17:53:35 EST From: jessica Subject: Re: Rainbirds et al meredith writes: Vickie, I tried to print out your Happy-SiG-SaGa, but the system lost it. As a result, I won't be reading it until it appears in the archives, so you don't have to worry about it being a spoiler for me! It shoudl be there! unfortunately if you don't get the digests you won't know which digest to get..... So, it is Digest.134 jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1992 9:07:48 +0800 (SST) From: N_HAYS@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au Subject: Two more bits Martin here. Vickie writes: >Also, I would always say something like "that was from her album, tape... >that comes from her album, which isn't an album at all, it's a tape... >that's on the album, cassette actually...." and always make sure the >listeners knew that she didn't have any vinyl LPs, only cassettes. I >found all the various ways I said that, and put them together. Album just means "collection", Vickie... so the first4 ARE "real" albums. Angelos: > Wow! Does your dad speak greek? What did you think "Dougiamas" was, welsh? :-) Seriously though, my dad is from Greece and my mum's from Germany. (That's 'mom' for you yanks :) They met in the outback deserts of central Australia, which is where I was born and raised. There is actually good reason to suppose that I'm directly descended from Vasco DeGama, the explorer. How's that for top-notch Happy information? :-) Martin ,-----------------------------+----------------------------. _ . | "The shallow drowned lose | Martin Dougiamas. | ~ _r' Ll\ ~ | less than we", you breathe, | n_hays@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au | | \ ~ | the strangest twist upon | Curtin University | ~ \ ._ / ~ | your lips. - The Cure | Perth, Western Australia --+---> x~ `-' ~ `=============================+============================' V ======================================================================== From: vickie@chinet.chi.il.us (Vickie Ann Mapes) Subject: What's this mean? Date: Thu, 30 Jan 92 12:57:42 CST This just came to me. What's it mean Unix wizards? There wasn't anything in the "body" of the letter, just this header. Angelos, are you still with us? E-mom > Forwarded message: > > From homebru!homebru!mcdchg!gatech.edu!mit-eddie!mit-athena!uucp Wed Jan 29 06:05:22 1992 > > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 92 01:31:22 EST > > From: mit-eddie!mit-athena!uucp@gatech.edu (Uucp template) > > Message-Id: <9201290631.AA10085@Athena.MIT.EDU> > > To: mcdchg.chg.mcd.mot.com!homebru!clout!chinet!vickie > > Subject: uuxqt cmd (rmail kyrlidis) status (signal 0, exit 102) ======================================================================== From: foster@magnum.convex.com (Harry Foster) Subject: Re: What's this mean? Date: Thu, 30 Jan 92 21:58:19 CST > > This just came to me. What's it mean Unix wizards? There wasn't > anything in the "body" of the letter, just this header. Angelos, > are you still with us? > > E-mom > Well it looks to me like the UUCP Execution File Interpreter strikes again. No doubt some evil ploy by that wicked witch of the east CYNTHIA!! No need to fear, the UNIX Wiz is here ... "We're off to see the Wizard ..." Oh, sorry, it's been a long day. BTW, did my tapes ever make it your way ? Harry (who can't wait for Happy to tour through Dallas) p.s. I turned my boss onto Happy! The only problem is he hasn't return my _Warpaint_ CD! :( ======================================================================== Subject: fluff'n'stuff From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 92 22:56:15 GMT Re: fluff'n'stuff f'n's and the family atmosphere is essential for me. Otherwise I would feel very uncomfortable about posting something. And I'm reading almost everything posted, even the ones from Mitch although that means looking up lots of words in the dictionary. :) > From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) > Then we could have {alt,rec}.music.happy-rhodes (if we really > want publicity, let's not have a cryptic name like "ecto" on the > end) which could be an alternative channel, available to anyone Hmm, I like a cryptic name like "ecto". "gaffa" did catch my attention. Vickies SiE-The Novel: That sounded like a lot of work. And I'm glad that it's finished now. Glad for you mainly, that you got out of that loop of redoing it again and again. Good that you included the list at the end. My buzzing head needed it badly. Doug, the Central Bank of Ecto sounds like a good idea. I'm considering opening an account. Maybe we should also think about opening an european branch. Meredith found: > Firstly, there was a CD-single of "Hit", the first single from the Sugarcubes' > forthcoming album- the title escapes me now, but it's due for release on > 7 February. I've heard and seen "Hit" on MTV a couple of times now. Sounds promising. The album title is "Stick Around For Joy" (Wow, when switching on the telly and VCR to check the title of the album, as I've recorded it yesterday, I jumped into "Babooshka"! Nice surprise!) Hank suggested: > ...what if the > newsgroup was moderated to keep out the flames etc that has altered > gaffa? Just a thought :) I can't wait for the concert in Philly!!! That would be censorship, which we don't want. ___________________________________________________________ ( "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. ) ) Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." ( / --- Happy Rhodes --- \ / Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.w.open.de \ ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 31 Jan 92 00:44:35 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: ectoghettios stern@chem.nwu.edu (mjm) sez: >I was lucky enough to see Shawn who opened for Richard Thompson >this summer. The show (both artists) was fantastic. yeah - agreed. i saw her with richard last summer at the newport folk festival (suzanne vega also played and she was plain wonderful although the two of them did not get together for any songs). shawn was rather nice though - and i was not all that excited about her album either. richard was plain wonderful though. yummy. which reminds me for no apparant reason that there is a new outback cd out. this is a duo of a guitarist and a digeriduist (!). their first was called _baka_ and it was wonderful. i have not gotten to listen to the new one, _dance the devil away_ - but it did come in the mail today (along with the sarah mclachlan cd which is certianly out and around - we listened to it earlier tonight...oh yeah - i'm at rutgers now hanging out with jessica and her wacky friends (hi dave! ;) ). >Rumor and Sigh is his latest album, featuring lots of good stuff and >some standouts (e.g. the one about the motorcycle (can't remember the >exact name but it's got a year (55?) in the title). wow. yeah - that is by far my favorite song on _rumor and sigh_ and i can't think of the name either. 55 vincent black lightning or something like that. the rest of the album is good - but sometimes seems unfinished. as if he wrote a recorded the demos and then forgot to finish them. i attribute part of that to mitchell froom - his judicious use of synths does not do richard any good. woj ======================================================================== From: brownfld@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Kenneth R Brownfield) Subject: newcomer Date: Fri, 31 Jan 92 4:15:20 CST Hi! Glad to join the list again! I'll probably lurk until I get the feel of Ecto and learn a bit more about Happy, so don't think I'm being anti-social! ;-) I will add a quick two cents about the newsgroup argument I caught a few glimpses of. I think that a newsgroup would get a lot more traffic, but the more traffic, the more noise. I don't think a newsgroup would give Ecto any more info, considering it's already so close to Happy. I think the bandwidth Happy is getting on rec.music.misc and the like is enough to draw potential Ectophiles. Or Ectopods? Shudder at the thought, but consider the gnashing that rec.music.gaffa is taking. I'd hate for the same (hopefully temporary) thing to happen to Ecto before I got to know all of you! Anyway, keep warm, and take care. Ken. ======================================================================== From: vickie@chinet.chi.il.us (Vickie Ann Mapes) Subject: Lots of Fuzzy Fluff & Stuff Date: Fri, 31 Jan 92 6:37:09 CST Vickie here. Disjointed and dubbed out, but very pleased with the world... This post has a little bit of everything, and is directed towards lots of different people. Warm blue fuzzer welcomes to Ken Brownfield (again, you say? I never knew you were on the list before) and I'm looking forward to seeing you again at the Moon Seven Times concert this Saturday. It's good to see you here. I didn't see this at my site in loose mail, and I'm so far behind on putting the Digests in archive that I don't know if this appeared, but warm fuzzy welcomes to bear too. Post some more! It's way cool to see a sig of someone named "bear" in Ecto! Glad you popped up Henry (Henry, I know, not Harry!) and from now on, I'll call you Hank. I'm looking forward to meeting you and your wife (Beth, right?) in Philly. Speaking of Harry, your tapes did make it here ok, thanks! We have another Beth here, a friend of Geoff Carre's (that's who he bought all those cassettes for-Geoff, you're so sweet!) and so welcome to you too! Ooops, I *thought* it at the time, but didn't say it. So, belatedly.. **** CONGRATULATIONS!! **** to Mark Carroll! I'm very happy for you! Also warm fuzzy congratulations on Ecto's baby sister (this is getting weird, if gaffa is the mother of ecto and warmroom is ecto's sister...) Martin, when I first started playing Happy on KKFI, CDs wern't that prevelant, so I always said "cassette" to let people know that they were not _LPs_. Of course I think of them as albums, my point was only to clarify the format they came on. Meredith (and anyone else affected) I do apoligise about my humongous post. I should have waited a couple of days for people to speak up, also, if I had waited, it wouldn't have clashed with Alan's post. I had also posted the FAQ, but it bounced back to me...poor athos! I'll try the FAQ again in a couple of days. I wouldn't want anyone to get the idea that the Ecto SiG was "hard" in the bad sense of the word. It was fun, very much. It was just weird, in a fun sort of way. Martin, if I'd taken your sig. (Happy's words) to heart, my Ecto SiG History post would consist of: "Lordy lordy...it's done!" and then I wouldn't have to say... "Klaus, sorry about your buzzing head :-)" or "I'm awed that I have a whole Digest to myself....wow!" No tapes or CDs have sold to Swedes, as far as I know. As for Swedish Ectophiles, I'm part Swedish...does that count? My grandfather's family (on my mom's side) came from there. When they got to America, their name was "Ingeson" but someone added an "r" somewhere along the way and my mom's maiden name was "Ingerson." My coloring and bone structure comes from my dad's side of the family, German and Irish. Martin, I get no reactions from listeners at all. I'm on tape. I truly regret not being live anymore, it's *so* impersonal. When I was live on the air, I'd get all kinds of phone calls and reactions. It was like having my own "Ecto/warmroom airwaves" and, though I was broadcasting on a 100,000 watt station, it still was very intimate and I was friends with the listeners. That's why (whose who have heard my live Kansas City shows will know this) I used to talk a *lot* and be very chatty-cathy. Everything's different now. I do whatever possible to avoid talking on my Chicago show, and my Kansas City show is hardly more than just a straight back-announce because Sue keeps telling me to cut down on my talking and I feel weird anyway. God knows how many of my original listeners are still listening. Very few probably. Right now probably zero, because we (Sue and I) were pre-empted for many weeks, and then moved to Tuesdays, then moved to Mondays, so I never even got a chance to say "goodbye...follow us and listen on our new night" so noone knows when the show airs. Bummer :-( Anyway, I can't answer your question. Cathy, cool news about KTCZ! Thanks for posting. Btw, I'm looking for a post I did on "Womyn's music vs. Music by women" to send you. Also, I'd love to hear about your trip to the wilderness, canoeing down the sacred-aura river and all. Please think about writing something up and posting it. I'm sure other people would love to hear about it too. I'll probably call H&K over the weekend to get news. Hopefully Happy will have her reactions to the HGP all done. Mike (Mendelson) your post did get through. I posted the FAQ to sort of answer your question about the HGP, but, as I said, it fritzed. The HGP is something that was thought up by Klaus. A bunch of 'philes sent me tapes of songs they wanted Happy to hear, and some put messages on their tapes. I compiled everything together onto 2 100 minute tapes and mailed them off to Happy as a (belated :-) ) Holiday present along with a scarf that she just loved! We'll be doing it again for Happy's birthday and the deadline for that is June 1 of this year. Happy's birthday isn't until August, but I want lots of time to get all the tapes (we had a problem with the pre-Christmas Postal rush and more than a few tapes got lost in the mail) and I'll get it made and mail it to her before her birthday. Think about what you want to put on it!! Also, Happy doesn't have any dates set except for Albany the 18th (also Alan Sodoma's birthday, yay!) of March and the Philly show the 21st (the day after Geoff Carre's birthday and the day before Bob Brown's....cool!) She's working on other dates, but none have been confirmed yet. They want to go to Boston, Wash DC, Detroit, Chicago, Mpls, Kansas City and Dallas. We'll see... To answer another question of yours, Jeanne has been vacationing in the Southern California, Northern Mexico region. I take it Tom's too busy to keep up on Ecto recently :-) or else you probably would have heard from him by now. Jeanne and Tom traipsed down to Mexico together. It sounded like so much fun! It's so cool that people are getting their friends into Happy. I just love to hear things like that, thanks for them everyone! I just skimmed the latest batch of Ecto, so I know there's more to respond to. I'll be back! Vickie vickie@chinet.chi.il.us _________ |_ _ | _ Fuzzy Blue Wonderland "We're waking up |__|_ ||_| "There is a road straight yes it's good" to my heart" ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 31 Jan 92 09:50:03 CST From: barger@ils.nwu.edu Subject: A Vickie-Vickie hatches a plot! Okay, we all agree, yes?, that Vickie ought to be DJ-laureate of the entire universe... yes? So what can we do to *launch her to stardom*? We gotta get more stations to play her show, obv rt? So who's gotta be our #1 target, primed and ready with national visibility? Well, that Philly NPR station, por supuesto! So here's the plot: we send 'em a tape (of Vickie!) and a letter, and tell 'em how we're driving 800trillion miles to celebrate Vickie's exquisite taste, and we'd like to drop by the station, en masssssacre!, Saturday afternoon and hype the Happy show and tell our story, and how we really think they ought to try her out in some respectable slot starting that weekend (if not sooner) at a couple hundred bucks per show (is that way out of line? I dunno... that'd obviously be negotiable ;^), mailing tapes from Chicago... I really believe in the new-age principle of visualization: if you don't believe in something enough to visualize it, there ain't no way it's just gonna drop in your lap. So Vickie deserves to be a voice on the national scene... so let's visualize it... and then *actualize* it! What other stations? What leverage can we apply? =========================================================================== Jorn Barger, Northwestern U., Chicago, Midwest, USA barger@ils.nwu.edu "And crazyheaded Jorn, the bulweh born?" _Finnegans Wake_ 513.07 (Ask me about the electronic Finnegans Wake reading project!) =========================================================================== ======================================================================== From: Steve Fagg Subject: HGP Reactions Date: Fri, 31 Jan 92 17:31:15 BST I know this is a bit late, but then I was a bit late getting the HGP thanks to the vicissitudes of the transatlantic postal services. I arrived home in Harlow on Monday afternoon after a weekend in London, not feeling too wide awake due to watching the Superbowl on TV the night before (the game went on 'til nearly 3:30am UK time), to find the long awaited package lying on my doormat. Yippee! First off I have to say that the packaging was really neat. All the blue tissue paper, tied up with blue string, and the fuzzy blue cassette inserts was just great. Much more fun than just a couple of tapes in a jiffy bag. Must've taken ages to do. Hats off to Vickie! Overall I thought the project was a great success. I'm sure Happy will ove it. It was particularly good to hear so many people's voices, I hope more people will be encouraged to open their mouths on the HBP. The selection of music was amazing. There wasn't one piece I didn't like and the range of tastes was quite phenomenal: from the sublime (La Stupenda's Flower Song) to the ridiculous (Victoria Williams). I'm not going to comment on every selection (much as I'd like to), but I feel I must talk about some of the highlights. Highlights so far that is, I've still only listened to the whole thing three times but one of those was while copying it onto another pair of tapes for use in my Walkman (wouldn't want to risk screwing up the original) so that I'll be hearing it a lot more from now on. It's actually supplanted a tape of "Warpaint" + most of "Bound by the Beauty" which has lived in there since I got back from Wales in July. Anyway... Back to the comments: > :::::::: Pt.I :::::::: > >3) Martin Dougiamas > message > Thomas Dolby - "I Scare Myself" Great to hear this again, I used to have a friend who was very heavily into TD and this reminded me how good he is. Must get something on CD. >4) Steve Fagg > message > June Tabor - "No Man's Land" Vickie made the Genesis "Here we are in Harlow New Town..." intro much smoother by re-recording the track and having it continue under the message. On my original there was a rather clumsy fade from the song to the message. A big improvement (albeit at the cost of increased noise level) Vickie, thank you! >6) Gregory Bossert - Jessica Dembski > Jessica & Greg covers Kate Bush - "Moving" So far this is the highlight of the entire project for me. I can't get this out of my head and it's definitely Jessica's voice I'm hearing, not KaTe's. A taste perhaps of what the Ecto band project might have come up with? Keys could have been mixed a little louder in places perhaps (says he nitpicking as usual). >7) kIrI Hargie > message > Nine Ways of Sunday - "Love and Money" Court & kIrI's cat song had me laughing uncontrollably. I dread to think what the neighbours thought - it was the dead of night and I was listening on headphones! Wonderful stuff. Have you two by any chance come across Elizabeth Schwartzkopf and (?Victoria de los Angeles) singing Rossini's "Cat Duet"???? >8) Rob "woj" Woiccak > Sonny Sharrock Band - "KaTe" (Variations on Wuthering Heights theme) Loved the bass playing on this one. >9) Meredith Tarr > message > New Group covers Kate Bush - "Wuthering Heights" Different. Definitely different! They stopped the intro just short of my favourite gruesome bit... >---------------- Side 2 ----------------- > >1) Courtney Dallas > "a SILLY Welsh love song" *VERY* silly from the sound of it, any chance of a translation? >4) Mitch Pravatiner > message > Michael Flanders & Donald Swann - "A Happy Song" A classic. Superb choice. >5) Perttu Yli-Krekola > Trio Bulgarka - "Mari Tudoro" Well, you've got to love 'em haven't you! >6) Justin Bur > message > Wim Mertens - "The Fosse" Never heard this before. Very classy. >7) Angelos Kyrlidis > Eleftheria Arvanitaki - "Meno Ektos" What a loevely voice! >11) Klaus Kluge > Manfred Mann's Plain Misic - "Instrumedicine Song" Somehow this is *EXACTLY* the kind of song I'd have expected Klaus to pick. Don't know why, I know him no better than any of you (i.e. not at all), but somehow it fit perfectly. >12) Vickie Mapes > Victoria Williams - "Happy" Now this was silly. Just plain silly. Stop it at once! > :::::::: Pt.II :::::::: > >4) David Lubkin > Steeleye Span - "Cam Ye O'er Frae France" Nice to hear this one again. Long time favourite group of mine. >---------------- Side 2 ----------------- > > Jorn Barger >3) Delibes (Joan Sutherland) - "The Flower Song" Wonderful stuff. One of the greats (Dame Joan I mean, not Delibes!). > Well there you go. Hope it didn't burst anybody's mailbox. 'bye... -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-429531 Ext 2437 ESN-742-2437) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! I've been told I'm too far from humble to even have it in quotes, so, just "your moderator" -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)