Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1017 ecto, Number 1017 Friday, 18 February 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* cornflake girl -- what'sitmean? Re: latest ectofile Greetings from Vickie Re: Cowboy Junkies Re: No femme airwaves shirley eckhard Cowboy Junkies Re: Just Checking In March is Ecto month in Denver!!! defending Tuesday Moxy Fruvous Concert Review Today's your birthday friends.... recommendation for Bel Canto fans: Green Isac "Shunned" artists? ======================================================================== Date: 17 Feb 94 13:02:28 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: cornflake girl -- what'sitmean? Alrighty Jeffy, I need your help. I'm looking at my farandaway favorite song off UTP, Cornflake Girl, lyrics, and it's like Greek. Please, what does it mean?! While your at it, any idea about what Sister Janet is about? And finally, is the CG version on the UK single different from the album version? Thanks for all the help. -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 14:27:19 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: cornflake girl -- what'sitmean? On 17 Feb 1994, Mike Mendelson wrote: > Alrighty Jeffy, I need your help. Well, I'm not Jeff, but is it all right if I take a stab at answering your question? > I'm looking at my farandaway favorite song off UTP, > Cornflake Girl, lyrics, and it's like Greek. > Please, what does it mean?! I have read that _Cornflake girl_ is about women's betrayal on one another. Tori said that when a man betrays a woman, it's almost not a surprise, but when a woman betrays another woman, we're talking serious nastiness. > And finally, is the CG version on the UK single > different from the album version? I wish I knew. For some reason, I can't seem to find this in all the usual places that carry import singles. Hmmm. Michael ======================================================================== From: Anders.Hallberg@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Hallberg) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 20:33:38 +0100 Subject: Re: latest ectofile As a very new Ectophile I can but wonder what the Ectofile is (apart from being a list of people). What is it for? -- \aha (still waiting for the record store to call and tell me that my Rhodes I, Rhodes II, Rearmament and Ecto CDs have arrived) ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 19:39:22 +0000 From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk (Steve Fagg's Mac) Subject: Re: cornflake girl -- what'sitmean? At 1:02 pm 17/2/94 -0500, Mike Mendelson wrote: >Cornflake Girl, lyrics, and it's like Greek. >Please, what does it mean?! I've been told on irc that Tori has said that Cornflake Girls are air-heads as opposed to sensible raisin girls. Or was that the other way 'round? :-) >And finally, is the CG version on the UK single >different from the album version? Not as far as my ears can hear. I think both UK singles carry the album version of CG. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** We tried to add it all up and got merely sunrise. *** *** Try putting that in a letter to someone in exile. *** ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 13:59:58 CDT From: Chip Lueck Subject: Greetings from Vickie Chip here. I just remembered that I talked to Vickie on Monday night and I forgot to pass along her *HUGS* to ecto. She's temporarily off line at the moment and sends her love. If anyone sent her any email, she's not ignoring you -- she's not online. *HUGS* to you all, and nighty night Juha, etc. :-) -chip ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 16:09:49 PST From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Cowboy Junkies >>The Norwegian Cruise Line has been using "Blue Moon Revisited" as >>background for their current round of commercials...I would be hooked >>if I had enough money and vacation at the same time...fortunately, not >>a problem yet ;-) >>Dennis Parslow I had read in the paper that the cruise line had approached the COwboy Junkies to use their music, but they had declined. They then used a knockoff band that is virtually indistinguishable (I haven't seen the ads). The male Timmons said that he wasn't sure he could tell the difference himself. This sounds like law suit material to me, although the Junkies made no comments in that direction in the short article. Not too long ago the same thing happened to Tom Waits (I think it was Frito-Lay that he turned down and then was copied by) and he won a lawsuit. Neal ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 19:51:57 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: No femme airwaves You know, it really is tragic that females are still overlooked in almost every field, including something so 'progressive' as music and film. However, I must comment on Boston's alternative radio station, WFNX. WFNX does a good job at playing alot of females in alternative rock. Granted, with the grunge explosion of the last couple of years still in swing, there is still a majority of men in alternative music, I don't feel there is any intentional slighting of women. In fact, for their top 101 of 1993 (chosen by the listeners) the top two songs were by female fronted bands. #2, _Linger_ by the Cranberries, and #1 _Cannonball_ by the Breeders. (Especially shocking was _Linger_ as it was surrounded by harder edged stuff like the afore-mentioned Breeders, Smashing pumpkins, Pearl Jam, Nirvana etc.) Still, women need more exposure. If record labels pushed women more, then I'm sure there would still be a Best Vocal performance by a female, Rock category. Michael ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 20:28:32 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (the king of spain) Subject: shirley eckhard Tippi Chai quotes from the Toronto Star interview with KaTe: >It speaks loudly. Ask almost any current female singer-songwriter >where she got her musical inspiration, and the name Kate Bush is >mentioned almost as often as that of Joni Mitchell. Canadians >have been particularly smitten: Jane Siberry, Sarah McLachlan, >Rebecca Jenkins, Loreena McKennitt, Shirley Eckhard and more -- anybody care to illuminate my brainwaves regarding shirley eckhard? also, does rebecca jenkins have any albums released? would love to get 'em if they are... +woj ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 00:30:25 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Cowboy Junkies The Norwegian Cruise Line has been using "Blue Moon Revisited" as background for their current round of commercials...I would be hooked if I had enough money and vacation at the same time...fortunately, not a problem yet ;-) Dennis Parslow Today I am a small blue thing. Troy, NY 12180 Suzanne Vega p00421@psilink.com ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 01:06:07 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: Just Checking In >DATE: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 10:16:07 -0500 (EST) >FROM: Mark Susskind > >A couple of your leads I do like. When _Whatever_ by Aimee Mann came out, >you kind folk convinced me that I should try it out. A few months ago, a >strong recommendation for Sheila Chandra prompted me to purchase _Weaving >Our Ancestors' Voices_. I like the Aimee Mann (causing me to check out the Til Tuesday stuff I had dismissed years ago-and causing me to be disappointed). I actually haven't heard the Sheila Chandra though... > >One of your leads I am iffy about. I am still trying to get used to >_Debut_ by Bjork. And one of your leads, unfortunately, is revulsive to >me. Is there anybody here who wants to buy _Tongues and Tails_ by Sophie >B. Hawkins from me (only used once)? > It took me a couple tries to get used to Debut, but I like it just fine now. However, I find Tongues and Tails *very special*. >I look forward to future successful leads. But if others turn sour, I'll >look to you first to relieve my burden. :) > Actually, that is kind of a nice fallback, isn't it? By the way, I heard "Don't you want me, baby?" on Musak today. Hmmm... Yesterday, I heard a cover of Shadowfax on Musak. But the original was perfect without adaptation! Dennis Parslow Today I am a small blue thing. Troy, NY 12180 Suzanne Vega p00421@psilink.com ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 08:06:36 +0700 From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: March is Ecto month in Denver!!! Greetings, I usually walk to work, but this morning, it was closer to dancing to work, out of pure joy. I just found out that Jane Siberry will be playing somewhere in the area on March 13th (or was that the 15th :P ). Now I just have to confirm the details and find a ticket. I don't remember seeing Denver on any of her tour itineraries, and Denver is so often passed over by musicians, that this was a great and wonderful surprise!! Wheeee!!!!! Yet maybe Denver has reached big league status, as so far in March, Denver will play host to 2 Mar Sarah McLachlan 13 Mar Jane Siberry 25 Mar Cocteau Twins Quite a month, eh!? :) In the past, whole years have passed without seeing such Ecto talent in Denver. With the Rocks opening on 4 Apr, I'd better get my car tuned up, as I'll be driving to Denver quite often in the coming months! :) Wheeee!!!! :) Someone recently described his [I'm sorry, but I lost the post :( ] first forays into the deep dark uncharted Ecto musical terrain and expressed disappointment in the Ecto recommendation of Sophie B. Hawkins. I just have one thing to say: Don't let it get you down!! Tastes differ, even in Ecto. :) Personally, _Tongues and Tails_ remains the _only_ album I bought purely on an Ecto recommendation that I absolutely, actively, and thoroughly hated [quickly ducking an electronic barrage]. So just keep following those Ecto recommendations. I guarantee you'll find a lot more gold than muck in the list. Resisting the temptation to run through the streets of Fort Collins yelling "Jane Siberry is coming! Jane Siberry is coming!", I remain ... Doug Burks _O_ @>->--- dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! a Zappa/Beefheart fan!!! :) :) :) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 08:48:38 PST From: Neal Copperman Subject: defending Tuesday Dennis Parslow's: >>I like the Aimee Mann (causing me to check out the Til Tuesday stuff I >>had dismissed years ago-and causing me to be disappointed). What 'Til Tuesday did you listen too. I wrote them off after a horrible show I saw in Baltimore, I think for Welcome Home, and a friend made me listen to Everything's Different Now, and now I've got them all. The first one (with Voices Carry) is very eratic and overproduced, but has some good songs hidden in it. The second (Welcome Home), also struck me as being eratic, but has some truly stupendous songs on it. I think about half of it is marvelous. Needless to say, Everything's Different Now completely won me over. I think it is a consistantly marvelous album, and think that anyone that liked Whatever should like it too (although a local critic said Whatever was a huge improvement over the sophomoric and simple previous work, so he is obviously no one). Neal ======================================================================== Date: 18 Feb 94 11:38:19 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Moxy Fruvous Concert Review Last night, Thu. 2/17/93, I was privileged to catch a fine Canadian talent at the Park West in Chicago. Moxy Fruvous have been thrilling Toronto audiences for a few years now with their scathingly hilarious, quick-tongued lyrics, folk sensibility (Jean admitted to being if not a full-fledged communist then at least well left-of-centre :-), their finely-blended, -tuned, and tight a cappella harmonies, and their (on- and off-) stage antics. Last night was the first time I'd ever seen them live and I was not to be disappointed. The evening started, as usual, with us getting to the venue more than an hour before the show started so we could sit right in front. This paid off in spades. Not only did we get front and center seats, but we got to shmooze with some other die-hard fruvous fans, *and* with a woman who is in her own group called Foreigners without Accents, who named Jane Siberry, Kate Bush and Sarah McLachlan as artists their group had been compared to. (!!!) (But that's another post for another time.) Jean (John?) the "leader" (if there is one) of Moxy Fruvous came out and talked to us. Tam (the woman from FwA) called him over and he was surprised. "Do you know me?" he asked. "I know you," she said, though apparently they'd never met. So we all talked for a while and Jean gave lots of twisted answers to silly questions and staved off our requests for songs to be played. He was shocked that there were people in Chicago who had actually heard of them, not to mention owned some of their recorded music. I've had the Bargainville CD for a few months now, and there's also a 6-song tape that's been out. (The tape has 5 songs from bargainville and 1 other -- Green Eggs and Ham.) Anyways, it was great being able to talk to a fellow Canadian (I'm from Montreal) and it was obvious he loved talking to people who "knew" him and admired Moxy's music. Their first song was a modified, all-a cappella rendition of Boston's Peace of Mind, in which they plead with the audience to buy their 3-song, $2 sampler cassette. Bargainville, their brilliant CD, is now being released in the U.S. on Atlantic, who have paid for the tour. (I forgot to mention that Moxy was opening for Nick Heyward... they're touring around the U.S. together.) They then launched into songs, mostly from Bargainville. One new song was about Rush Limbaugh. The audience loved it. All their lyrics are extremely witty, tongue in cheek. The band is unique in that virtually everything they sing is a cappella-style (4 part harmony) but they also play various instruments as they sing (a decidedly hard thing to pull off). One plays a drum, one a bass, others guitars, some other percussive instruments, an accordian, a harmonica...(but there are only 4 of them!) not all the instruments are used in every song. It's a real mix and match, tradeoff, tag-team type of thing. So is it also on the lead-vocal, when there is one (sometimes they all sing at the same level). Another exciting aspect of their stage show is the choreography, costumes, and general *fun* these guys have on stage and generate throughout the audience (an audience who obviously had never heard or seen them before). Two particular standouts were spiderman, in which one Fruvite jumped into the audience (cordless mike) with spider-gear and chinese yoyo, and made his way back to the stage as he sang and jumped... The highlight in a show of hilites had to be Green Eggs and Ham, which is more a performance/rap/story/ acting out of the Dr. Zeuss book. Two characters are pitted against each other and battle with words, gestures and props. Fantastic oral gymnastics, costumes, and fun. River Valley, King of Spain, Stuck in the 90's, and My Baby Loves a Bunch of Authors are other songs they performed... each with it's own special flavour and shtick. In summary, these guys are *not* to be *missed*. You should keep an eye out for Nick Heyward because they will probably be opening for him. The ticket price in Chicago was only $10 -- cheap on the scale of most concerts. And the crowd was not huge, making it even easier to enjoy. BTW, Nick Heyward was pretty good. He used to be in Haircut 100 (of Love Plus One fame). I thought his band was good and the "new" songs he played were pretty hopping. But Moxy was a tough act to follow, IMHO. Also, if you go to see Moxy Fruvous, definitely check out the Fruvous-gear for sale. One item they did not have on the counter was the spankly "Fruvest," in two lovely flavours, paisely and floral. I bought one of these and it looks great! (It's a silk vest, very sharp.) I don't know if America is ready for music this literate and this much fun. A cappella music certainly is entirely underground in the U.S. (and the world) right now, but these guys might just give it the kick it needs to become more popular. Bargainville should be available in your CD-stores any day now. Seek it out and you'll be glad you did. And if you do see the guys, be friendly to them, tell them where you heard about them (I mentioned CASA, the a cappella society to them (they are listed there) and the fact that I was in an a cap group myself (Jean seemed very impressed by this) and I mentioned some of the other groups I'd heard mention them), and welcome them to the U.S. Yay! -mjm ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 07:18:46 Subject: Today's your birthday friends.... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *************** ***HAPPY******* ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ******************* **** Jim Sturnfield *** **** Juha Kannisto **** *********************** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jim Sturnfield Thu February 18 1954 Aquarius Juha Kannisto Wed February 18 1970 Aquarius Linda Saboe Tue February 20 1951 aimless Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Tim Steele March 8 Pisces Bob R. Gupta Thu March 10 1966 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Randall K. Smith Sat March 15 1969 Pisces Tod Flak Tue March 15 1966 Pisces Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 09:07:47 -0800 (PST) From: Emily Breed Subject: recommendation for Bel Canto fans: Green Isac I don't know how many ectophiles are on the dewy-fields list, but I thought this might interest some of y'all... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 12:15:46 +0100 From:Kjetil.Kristiansen@ban.aid.no To: dewy-fields@ifi.uio.no Subject: re: Green Isac While we're all waiting for Bel Canto to finish their 4th album, it might be a good idea to check out Green Isac, to those of you not familiar with them already. Andreas Eriksen is half of the 'group'. (I can't recall the other one at the moment). They're similar in style to Bel Canto. Floating synth-sounds on top of mostly african rhythms, which create a very interesting sound. Quite 'new-age', although I don't like this description. It's more than just floating repetitive sounds, which definitively might be said about Bel Canto too. To simplify it, they sound like Bel Canto without Anneli Drecker on vocals, almost an instrumental version of Bel Canto, one might say. Very pleasant and occasionally relaxing. They have two albums out: -Strings and Pottery (1991 I think) -Happy Endings (1993) If I should pick one of these, I would recommend the 'Happy Endings'. I think it has more feel to it, and Andreas Eriksen has learned a lot during his trips to Africa inbetween the albums. :) If anyone has any further questions (Gosh,I sound like a Judge ;-) ), I might be able to answer them. -kJeTiL ThEoBaLd ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 12:44:09 -0400 (EDT) From: DAVE Subject: "Shunned" artists? There are at least three wonderful artists who I have thus far been surprised not to see mentioned on ectoposts (admittedly I'm still a newbie); Shawn Colvin, Rosanne Cash, and especially Sam Phillips. I realize that these folks tend to come from a little less abstract point of view than people like Kate, Tori, Happy, et al, but they are still wonderful songwriters with beautiful voices, and in Sam Phillip's case one of the most gifted "assistants" (T Bone Burnett, anyone?) in the business. What am I missing? dave ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 13:12:39 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: "Shunned" artists? Dave, You're not missing anything. I'm sure Roseanne Cash, Shawn Colvin and especially Sam Phillips have fans on ecto. Me for example! You do know that Sam Phillips' new album, Martinis and bikinis is being released on March 8th, don't you? It's supposed to be terrific. I can't wait! These three probably haven't been talked about much recently because they've been relatively inactive. I'm sure you'll be seeing Sam's name popping up lots in the next few weeks! Michael ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)