Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1004 ecto, Number 1004 Friday, 11 February 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Under the Pink Alien Sex Indigo Girls song Re: Indigo Girls song Elias? back from the technological grave Re: Hey Bday! Happy Come Home reviews Jane... & Attention PHILADELPHIANS!! Re: kristen hersh interview Re: Hey Bday! Re: Happy Come Home reviews Re: random replies... Alison Moyet and Yazoo Re: Alien Sex Down with the Grammy's! crokinole VM on VW on DL ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 15:04:55 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Under the Pink While I certainly can't claim to be as spontaneous at buying CDs as Jeffy is (... well, actually....), I had to get Under the Pink too, not only because it's a new Tori, and not only because Jeff would hound me until I did, but, well, actually, those are the two main reaons I guess. The first listen was interrupted by a phone call (I won't name names because he's still working on a kite for me). It was still background music (which I've gone on record [... what an odd phrase in this context] as stating that's mainly how I listen to music anyway), but it was a pleasant background music. My first impression was "this is not a work CD." There are some areas that are just too discordant for my fellow workers to ... to ... not complain about. Then I realized that had never really stopped me before, so I guess I'll bring it in on Monday. I'm listening to it now (Cornflake Girl just ended), and it does sound better on the second listen. Can't say I get all woozy over it like some folks do, but hey, that's just me. I also snagged the new U2 single Stay (So Close, So Far Away!). Never thought I'd hear Sinatra and Bono in the same song, but anything's possible. Wasn't too impressed with the live version of Bullet the Blue Sky, but the rest of the CD is pretty good. In any event, it's hard to go wrong for $5.99. And, just so I can catch up to -- er, just because it was there, I also snagged Big Country's newest. Can't find any of their older works, but hey, this is a start. (I have their first.) I figure since my air fare to Vegas has a midpoint at Dallas, it was quite apropros considering the outcome of the Superbowl. (The title of the CD, for those who don't know or don't care, is The Buffalo Skinners) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike 'they call me Haagi and I don't know why' Matthews Mike_Matthews@sgate.com ======================================================================== From: Tree of Schnopia Subject: Alien Sex Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 18:20:30 -0500 (EST) Brad, Alien Sex is a new course whose full title is "Alien Sex: Gender and Difference in Fantasy", taught by the inimitable Sarah Higley. It's all about genderfuck, male pregnancy, homo/bisexuality, the angel and demon lover, etc., in mythology, legends, science fiction, and fantasy. By far the best lit course I've taken so far on this campus or any other...only *just* pulling ahead of Arthurian Traditions. As for Tori's lyrics...let go, be Schnopic, and feel the word, feel the word, feel the word... Drewcifer -- ---- Andrew D. Simchik, as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu, Tree of Schnopia \ ---- ****************************************************************** \\bi/ *********************** a.k.a. Drewcifer ************************* \/ ****************************************************************** SCHNOPIA embodies nature, tranquillity, and truth. Tree, take root, So. -------------------------------QUOTES BEGIN HERE-------------------------- "Master Shamen, I have come with my dolly from the shadow side with a demon and an Englishman"--Tori Amos, "Sister Janet" ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 6 Feb 94 19:03:50 -0600 From: vnozick@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Valerie Nozick) Subject: Indigo Girls song Anyone know of a song called "Mona Lisa's and Mad Hatters" by the Indigo Girls? I'm trying to track it down. Thanks. ==> valerie ============================================================================== Valerie Nozick vnozick@merle.acns.nwu.edu "Basically we're really a bunch of rock 'n' roll cliches who just wanna get drunk and have a good time." -- John Taylor of Duran Duran (don't you just love when the old quotes come back to haunt you?) "Just being alive, it can really hurt. And these moments given are a gift from time." -- Kate Bush ============================================================================ == ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 18:20:28 -0800 (PST) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: Re: Indigo Girls song Valerie Nozick asked: > Anyone know of a song called "Mona Lisa's and Mad Hatters" by the Indigo > Girls? I'm trying to track it down. Thanks. I don't know the Indigo Girls version, but it must be the old Elton John song (off _Honky Chateau_). I can't believe anyone else could come up with that same title. It goes: "Mona Lisas and mad hatters Sons of bankers, sons of lawyers Turn around and say good morning To the night For unless they see the sky Ans they can't and that is why they know not if it's dark outside or light" It that sounds right, that's the song. --Neile neile@u.washington.edu --where Neile is when you need her. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:38:54 +1100 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Elias? I just received a call from Warner Music here which has puzzled me greatly; apparently someone named Elias or similar has been in touch with Warner Music in London claiming to be a writer for Beat Magazine here in Melbourne, the magazine I write for, and asked for tickets to one of the London Tori Amos shows, so they could review it for Beat. Obviously taking the request seriously, Warner in London faxed their Melbourne office asking them to confirm it. Having confirmed that no-one at Beat knows or employs anyone by that or similar name, they've contacted me and asked if I know anyone by that name. I don't. :) But I checked quickly through my rdt and ecto archives just in case, with no luck. Anyone know anything about this? I'm puzzled. The only possible connection between London and Beat Magazine, as far as I can figure, is me being on the net. If the person who made the request is reading this, I'm sorry, but Warner had to deny the request as none of us here had the slightest clue what this was about or who the person was; if you are reading this, next time, mail me first. I would have had no problem with it! Sorry to take up your bandwidth with this, everyone; to satiate you slightly, updated release dates (FINAL, *confirmed*, _locked-in_ release dates!) for Tori in Australia are: "Cornflake Girl" - out now (today, actually), reportedly in a cardboard sleeve, unconfirmed. "Under The Pink" - February 28th. - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 06 Feb 1994 23:00:12 -0500 (EST) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: back from the technological grave Hi! Gack. Work is hell, and I'm in that awful transitional phase with my new computer -- I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to download mail and read and reply offline and upload the responses with the software I now have, and as a result the backlog of e-mail I have created is ENORMOUS. RDT alone could keep me busy for a solid week (guess the week Tori's new album comes out was a bad choice to do this, huh?). So, if you're awaiting a reply from me, be patient. It's lurking on my hard drive somewhere, and I promise I'll get to it eventually!!! A few things first... I did radio today, which was fun (playlists to follow by the end of the week, I promise), and on the way home listened to Echoes on the local APR station, just in time to hear "Summer". I must say I was quite pleasantly surprised. They have a catalog of many of the recordings played on that show, called the "Echodisc Catalog" - anybody know if Happy's albums are included? (The end of "Summer", by the way, was part of a beautful segue, outshone only by my Segue Of The Millenium of almost exactly one year ago today. :) Then when I got home I switched on WNHU, the University of New Haven station, which is usually playing your normal college-thrashgrunge fare when there aren't any basketball games being broadcast, to hear a song by Laura Love! I almost died. I called up the DJ, and it turns out this show, Wild Women Radio, is on every Sunday and is basically Champagne Jam New Haven. Wow. She and I are getting together sometime soon to talk music. I'll be sure to let her borrow some Happy, and ask if she has net.access, because she *needs* to be on ecto, badly! She was as surprised to hear about the existence of my show as I was to discover hers. This could be quite interesting! In other news, Ingrid Karklins is returning to The Buttonwood Tree in Middletown on February 15th. I'm there. (Tamar? Chris S.? :) And although I'm probably not going to go, some of you may be interested to know that Cowboy Junkies are going to be at Toad's Place in New Haven on February 22nd. I probably can't pick up tickets for anyone because of the hours I've been slaving lately, but I can get information like show time, ticket price, etc. if there is interest. Now, to Klaus. :> jeffy gasped: >Hunh? the Caldwells don't approve of dubbing a CD for the car? >What...they want you to buy TWO formats? I don't know about Missy, but Richard has been quite vocal in the past about buying originals of anything, no matter what you're using it for. I have gotten the distinct impression that this includes dubs for personal use. I myself did buy _Under The Pink_ in both CD and cassette formats, because I only have a cassette Walkman and had to listen to it the minute I bought it. (I did this with _The Red Shoes_, too. Thank the goddess this time I wasn't disappointed on the first impression!) >It's neat that they got a listing in the liner notes for RDT... Yeah, Missy was endlessly proud of that. :) I think it's way cool. >Of course, now I've heard the whole thing (now in the midst of my second >listen) and there's still absolutely no question that this is vastly >superior to _Fumbling Toward Ecstasy_ Fie on thee, heathen! I cast thee out of my sight! ;) Seriously, though, I agree completely with what woj said. You can't really compare the two, because they're coming from completely different places. And it's simply a fact that _FtE_ blows everything else Sarah has even dreamed of doing right out of the water. Face it, Jeffy, one of these days you're going to have to realize that, and your life will be so much the better. :) Drewcifer opined: > Now. Fumbling Towards Ecstasy. In my initial opinion, this album >was The One. I loved Touch and Solace, but felt that each lacked a certain >something the other had. FTE almost made that for me. It didn't *quite* >happen, however...I *adore* "Mary", and I like "Possession", "Good Enough", >"Ice Cream", and "Elsewhere" a lot. A definite step forward, FTE lacks the >lightweight feel and airy-fairy lyrics of Touch (and avoids some of the >earlier album's vaguely irritating melodies), and it also has more cheer and >lushness than the stark Solace. But the songs that aren't wonderful are >weak, and Sarah needs consistency of quality to hold one's attention. I >love her anyway, and can't wait to see her here in April. By the way, the >cover sucks; she's a beautiful, beautiful woman, and that photo doesn't do >her justice. I agree with you about the cover (have you seen the picture on the "Possess- ion" single, though? *melt*), but that's it. IMESHO, every song on this album is brilliant. There are degrees of brilliance, mind, but each track has something about it that makes it stand out and yell, "I'm here! I'm never leaving your soul as long as you live, so deal with it!" Whether it's a lyrical twist or a harmony or a musical hook, there's something or a bunch of somethings in each song that makes it amazing. And the production is perfect. Ask Greg, he said so, and woj agreed, so there! ;> >This has been attributed to my age, but it's difficult to deny that Tori has >style up the wazoo, "That'd be up the butt, Bob." (Sorry, obtuse third-party Newlywed Game reference there, but I simply couldn't resist.) >and her content is damned strong as well. I mean, I wouldn't publish >anyone else's lyrics as poetry more readily. There are many artists whose lyrics I would publish as poetry. Jane Siberry, Sarah McLachlan, and Kate Bush immediately jump to mind before I think of Tori, but I see where you're coming from. "Icicle" is brilliant. On the whole, I'm refusing to compare _UtP_ to _Little Earthquakes_ even on the most superficial of bases, because they are coming from two completely different places, and are affecting me in two completely different ways. _LE_ marched into my stereo and set up camp for a full six weeks, demanding that I listen to nothing else even when I wasn't sure if I liked the album. (It didn't click until driving home from seeing Happy perform in Albany, in a severe snowstorm, up all night wanting to sleep in the front seat but not wanting to miss a note as it's on the portable CD player and Dave Steiner is trying to drive and woj is asleep in the back (it's his car) and Jessica is singing along to every word in her beautiful voice and then "Winter" comes on and that's IT, it all makes SENSE now, how could I not have seen it before?) _UtP_, on the other hand, sidled up to me and whispered, "Hi, if you need me you know where I'll be, if you want to obsess over me for the next month feel free, but if you don't then of course I'll understand." Yes, I wanna. :) Is it just my cassette copy, or does the final "We'll see how brave you are" of "Yes, Anastasia" slide from the right channel into the left? (Listen to it on headphones and let me know, thanks.) Speaking of "Yes, Anastasia", musically it's a mess, but wow. I'll be delving into this one for years. Anyway.... Neil offered: >For those not in the know, Nettwerk is Sarah McLachlan's record >label. Anyone desperately want anything that might be had at such a >sale? If so I could probably swing by and have a look. If it hasn't already happened (I deleted the rest of your message without even looking, duh), if you happen to be there and notice any posters that aren't the _Touch_ cover, I'd appreciate it if you thought of me and my bare bedroom walls. Thanks. :) Sigh. woj abruptly got sent to Spain again. He should be back in time for the Ingrid Karklins show, which is good, but ... if anyone offers you a job and tries to sell you on the travel aspect of it, don't believe the hype! :P Well, I think this is quite enough for one evening. I had a polemic I wanted to post about the total absence of female performers on MTV nowadays, but I'll save it for later. You are spared. You are lucky. :) Meredith meth@delphi.com "I think the Good Book is missing some pages... " - Tori Amos ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Hey Bday! Date: Mon, 07 Feb 94 08:21:20 +0000 From: Stephen Thomas >HAPPY BIRTHDAY Tto Stephen Thomas!! >*HU(urk, sentimental sloppiness deleted) :-) Actually, *I* for one am *not* averse to a little bit of sloppy sentimentality! So there. Vickie, you are most welcome. Thank you, and thanks to all who have wished me happy birthday. Keep well, Stephen (who is feeling a little gooey anyway, since he spent a good part of yesterday playing with his new four-week old nephew.) ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 08:45:47 GMT Subject: Happy Come Home reviews Happy Come Home reviews from this months Vox/Q magazines. VOX, March 1994 (Re-issue) VICTORIA WILLIAMS Happy Come Home (Geffen GFLD 19239) The list of artists transparently influenced by Victoria Williams' timeless 1987 debut LP includes names as contemporary as Belly and stretches back to Edie Brickell and Stan Ridgway. The key, perhaps, is as simple as pure, old-fashioned enchantment. What LA-based, Cajun-born Williams recreated on Happy Come Home was a particularly potent strain of American nostaigia - a cornball, rural surrealism that has Its closest antecedent in the cinema; in movies such as L'il Abner or The Wizard Of Oz. Warbled in a strong but fractured falsetto over playful string arrangements, key songs 'Shoes', 'TC' and 'Main Street' seem to be demonstrating how such Technicolor dreams, at once cosy and wilfully off beat, get tangled up in our own recollections of childhood. The reality is never quite obscured, however. 'TC' may feature a walk In the woods straight out of Walt Disney - Williams calling up dogs and birds like a deranged Snow White - but the missing friend whose initials form the song's title Is vividly real. Likewise, the central Image of 'Main Road' is shadowed, from the start, by a string arrangement of dark foreboding. On 'Lights' and the Harry Chapin-ish 'Statue Of A Bum' there's a strong sense of compassion and of the goodness of humanity that only the most cynical would label as naivety. Williams has been suffering from multiple sclerosis since 1992 - news that prompted acts such as The Lemonheads, Pearl Jam and Lou Reed to record a benefit LP, Sweet Relief - but a recent appearance in the film Even Cowgiris Get Tho Blues must bode well for the future. On this evidence, certainly, she was one of the most imaginative and resonant new American songwriters of the late '80s. (9/10) Martin Townsend Q Magazine March 1994 (Re-issue) VICTORIA WILLIAMS Happy Come Home GEFFENC;EFLD 19239 One of two solo albums initially released on the unfortunate Rough Trade label, 1981's Happy Come Home is an excellent introduction to the eccentric talents of singer songwriter Victoria Williams. The subject of last year's Sweet Relief benefit album featuring Pearl Jam, Evan Dando and Lou Reed, Williams was diagnosed as havinq multiple sclerosis in sping 1992. Such a disease barely seems admissible in the charmed world of this record - a Southern memoir where Williams sings of frying pans, shoes and a dog called Happy. Her songs drip with charm and a wide eyed spontaneity that belies both the craft and complexity of Opelousas (Sweet Relief) which evokes the joys and sorrows of a Southern town, takes account of the desperate ways in which people take temporary succour and then swells to a healing finale. Willaams's voice is a cross between Dolly Parton and Melanie, she's equally at ease singing gospel (I'll Do His Will) or singing along with strings straight out of Oklahoma. Yet for all the little girl gestures, there's wit and wisdom that makes Happy Come Home anything but fey. Mark Cooper (****) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 4:02:45 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Jane... & Attention PHILADELPHIANS!! Mr. ReallyNiceGuy wrote: > Friday night Neile, Jim G and i were fortunate enough to be in the > magical presence of Jane Siberry. She stopped at the Backstage in Seattle > for a non-concert concert on her non-tour tour -- immediately > after performing with Shawn Colvin and Victoria Williams in NYC. (She > said Victoria and she danced in ways only they could appreciate :) Wonderful! I haven't heard a word about the New York concert, so I take it no Ectophiles made it...(?) > The videos for 'An Angel Stepped Down' and 'Temple' are incredible! Temple?? What was it like? She showed no video for Temple in Detroit! Thanks for the post Michael! I'm so glad you 3 were able to go. Did the show sell out? Steve VanDevender? John Zimmer? Did either of you make it to the Portland show? I haven't heard any word about this: PHILLYPHILES!! Jane is performing 2 nights in Philadelphia in March. >From what I've heard, she'll be at the Theater of Living Arts on March 4th and March 5th. Don't miss it!! > "good-bye, sweet punkinheads" - Jane Siberry > "Vickie should be here" - Mp To quote Meth, *melt*...thank you so much :-) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 4:29:25 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: kristen hersh interview > [considering the recent discussion of her new solo album, i figured that > some of you might enjoy an interview from last year. +woj] Thanks for this interview woj! I enjoyed it. > K: It becomes contrived, which is actually dishonest, and I don't mean > to rag on people, and when it's ladies it sounds bitchy, but I have > very very high expectations of women, and Mary Marguerite O'hara is > the only woman I know who's really doing something without being self > conscious. She's a Canadian singer, and she was actually prevented > from releasing her records by her own record company. She has a record > called Miss America, which was released about 3 years ago, but it was > put on hold for about 5 years, and she hasn't been able to do anything > since, and she could be the best singer in the world right now. How nice! I first heard about Mary Margaret O'Hara from Kristin and Tanya. After a concert (in 1989, I believe) I went backstage to get a show ID and talked with them for a bit. They seemed interested in my show, the concept, and Kristin said "I know someone you should check out. Have you heard Mary Margaret O'Hara?" I said no and they both started telling me how wonderful she was. A few months later I finally found the album, and of course, they were absolutely right! > C: why can't she put stuff out? > > K: Just because she wouldn't agree to their choice of producers or > production, and she wanted to do it herself. I mean, if they're looking > for a focused singer songwriter, and they push her around, it's absolute > evil I think she's doing what women should be doing right now. She has > the true female sound, without deciding I will be female, capital F, and > I'm going to sing about this, and I'm going to be honest and uncomprom- > ising and everyone will see me that way. It's just because I have high > expectations. Thanks again woj! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 4:32:07 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Hey Bday! > >*HU(urk, sentimental sloppiness deleted) :-) > > Actually, *I* for one am *not* averse to a little bit of sloppy > sentimentality! So there. Alright! Well ok then!! ***HUG*** :-) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 4:43:24 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Happy Come Home reviews > Happy Come Home reviews from this months Vox/Q magazines. Thank you Tim, for both of these reviews! I'm so pleased with both of them. > Q Magazine March 1994 (Re-issue) > VICTORIA WILLIAMS > Happy Come Home > GEFFEN 19239 ^^^^^^ > One of two solo albums initially released on the unfortunate Rough Trade > label, :-) (continuity error! continuity error!) (Unless, of course, they're talking about someone else's solo album. HCH was originally released on Geffen. Swing The Statue was released on Rough trade) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 08:00:20 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: random replies... On Sun, 6 Feb 1994, Stuart Myerburg wrote: > I *think*, although I could be wrong, that _Alf_, _Raindancing_, _Hoodoo_, > and the (hopefully) soon-to-be-released _Essex_ are the only Alison Moyet > albums. You are absolutely correct. > I only have _Alf_ and _Hoodoo_, so I don't know what > _Raindancing_ is like. But you should give _Alf_ another chance. True, I personally find _Raindacing_ to ber her weakest album. A rather watered down version of _Alf_. For me, _Hoodoo_ is her album that does it for me the most. From the ferocity of _It won't be long_ to the tenderness of _Wishing you were here_, Alison showcases her amazing voice. Of course, seeing her twice live on her mini- acoustic tour last year probably were the truly best showcases of her magnificent voice. Although I enjoy all of her albums so far, I have to agree that none of them allow her voice to be the true focal point. They all suffer in varying degrees from overproduction. > Give Yaz another try too. Although I personally like _Upstairs at Eric's_ > better, you might want to get _You and Me Both_. "Anyone" and "Ode to > Boy" do not have overwhelming synth parts. Of course, they're still > synth-based since Yaz was a synth duo, but the songs are pretty > minimalistic and heart-breakingly beautiful. For Yaz fans, check out the CD single for _Falling_ (and possibly her new album, _Essex_ as well) for the new version of the Yaz song, _Ode to boy_. It is an amazing version with no synthesizer. Alison is backed by acoustic guitar only. She did some amazing things with Yaz songs on her aforementioned acoustic tour. What a voice! I can't wait for Essex! (I had heard a release date of March 15th. Is this now outdated?) Michael ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 13:28:33 GMT Subject: Alison Moyet and Yazoo It's really confusing. Yazoo (Vince Clarke and Alison Moyet) are called Yaz in the states. It gets even more confusing as there's a singer over here called Yaz! I like Alison Moyet but I think Helen Terry (used to be backing singer for Culture Club) has an even better voice. Check her out on the album "Blue Notes" (if you can find it). Her voice is amazing. tim ======================================================================== From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: Alien Sex Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 08:36:51 -0800 (PST) All this talk reminds me of a collection of stories by William Tenn (I think) called "The Seven Sexes", that are based on a planet whereby sexual contact between 7 different 'genders' was required to produce offspring. Interesting food for thought. I guess monogamy is prolly out of the question there... br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 11:47:59 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Down with the Grammy's! I have to comment on an article I read recently in the Boston Globe. It stated that the National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences have merged the Best vocal performance male and female, rock categories. The reason being, they couldn't come up with enough female nominees! Apparently, they have to have at least 10 contenders from which they cull 5 nominees. Since they couldn't think of then, they merged with the male rock vocal and according to the Globe, had seven female contenders. None made it. The Combined Rock vocal performance is represented by 5 males. I thought I would vent my outrage (I'm also planning to write the Globe) with my list of 24 female rock vocalists that released something during the 1993 calendar year. This list was made over the course of 2 hours without any research. I'm sure there are many more possiblities. Feel free to e-mail to me any I've missed. Remember, they have to be solo performers who released something new during 1993, in the U.S. Kate Bush (The Red Shoes) Aimee Mann (Whatever) Sarah McLachlan (_Hold on_ from the No Alternatives collection) Juliana Hatfield (Become what you are - Technically, Juliana probably would be disqualified because of her album being released under the Juliana Hatfield 3 name.) Liz Phair (Exile in guyville) Kirsty MacColl (Titanic days) Jane Siberry (When I was a boy) Melissa Etheridge (Yes I am) Mae Moore (Bohemia) Oleta Adams (Evolution - Technically, she is probably considered R&B, but they could pluck a more rock oriented song off the album) Happy Rhodes (Equipoise) Maria McKee (_Opelousas_ from the Sweet Relief collection) Tina Turner (_I don't want to fight no more_ from the What's love got to do with it soundtrack) Bjork (Debut) Melissa Ferrick (Album) Meryn Cadell (Bombazine) P.J. Harvey (E.P.?) Michelle Shocked (Song from Sweet Relief collection) Cyndi Lauper (Hat full of stars) Sarah Brightman (Dive) Patti Scaflia (Album) Lisa Germano (Album) Sheryl Crow (Album) Jane Child (album) Isn't it ridiculous that the NARAS couldn't come up with ten female rock vocalists? I think I've sworn off the Grammy's for good. Michael ======================================================================== Date: 07 Feb 94 11:43:15 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: crokinole > Anyway, you have this flat, circular board about a metre (3 feet or >so) in diameter. It's got a couple of concentric rings drawn on it, >and a small shallow hole at the centre. There are two players, each >with a set of small round discs - traditionally one light, one dark. >Then you sort of flick the discs across the board and try to get it >into the centre. The concentric zones of the board have varying >scores, so you get 15 points for every disc you get in that zone, etc. > > The fun of the game is knocking other player's pieces off the board - >ideally you want to bump the opponent's disc off the board while your >disc stays in the 15 point zone, say. Sounds just like curling!! ======================================================================== Date: 07 Feb 94 12:05:45 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: VM on VW on DL |MJM says: | |> >Can someone tell me how Victoria was on Letterman? I somehow managed to |> >let it slip my mind and now I want to know what I missed :-( |> |> Mediocre. I was real disappointed. |> I hope Happy Come Home and Sweet Relief |> are better than this. I'm not as eager to buy them |> now. (I have StS.) | |You're going to let Victoria's Letterman appearance affect your decision |to get _Happy Come Home_? Are you serious? Where did *that* attutude come |from? No. I just said I'm not as eager. I will still buy HCH if/when I find it. I was just hoping for a much better song and performance. (and I was also quite pissed that I didn't tape aimee mann on Conan because I didn't know about it... isn't there some list that mails out the late night musical guests a week in advance? how do I get on that?) I would keep my mouth shut except that I *know* you like StS. Is |Victoria supposed to be like everyone else now? Not at all. In fact, I think she was trying to be like everyone else and I had expected her to try to be different. I was disappointed that she was conforming. What did she do at all to distinguish her from the masses? |I was disappointed too, Well, I'm glad you admit that. I think I saw someone say she was *great*? Care to elaborate, Mr. Tori-lover? (you know who you are... :-) Why did you think she was good? |I also know that everybody comes off looking bad on the Letterman show. See, I don't really agree with this. Lot's of people look *great* and sound *great* on DL... Cher and Billy Bragg come to mind. CB is good on DL too. I actually like PS and his band and think they do a good job. Bruce was awesome on DL. -mjm ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)