Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #443 ecto, Number 443 Wednesday, 17 February 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Kate's mentor's album and other stories Re: Hello Possums! EQUIPOISE in Wuppertal!!! Re: lurker no more Re: He will Come/The Flight Humbled and Awed Hoo-ray! a quick note... Discography equipoise and other random late-night notes magic moments - it is HERE ... Connie Champagne ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 23:45:16 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Kate's mentor's album and other stories Mitch, the oh-so-observant-one writes: > The discussion of _Smells Like Truth_ last week inspired me to play it again, > and I learned something that everybody else in these pages no doubt already > knows, namely that Eddi Reader sings backup on a couple of tracks. I assume > that the Eddi thread awhile back (which I didn't read carefully at the time) > mentioned this. NO! Nobody's mentioned this that I remember! Wow, I just got my CD and sure enough...**THANK YOU**!! Eddi sings backup on "O My Heart" and "Heaven On Earth"! My two favorite songs on the album, and I had no idea Eddi was there! Geez, teach me to be more observant. Also, Laura Love sings backup on "Eyes" (Mike Peskura sent me a cassette of her a long time ago. What's she up to Mike?) Op, Laura's also on "White Hail." (my other favorite song!) Vickie ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Hello Possums! Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 23:55:11 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu >Sorry for the title, my wife is a fan of Dame Edna's, what can >I say? Nothing. Please. ;-) >(Wish I could quote from you folks with those >>>s along the side!) What kind of computer are you using? Do you have software that, perchance, will let you cut 'n paste to/from a capture buffer? Most of us who use quoting do it automatically thanks to the wonders of Unix, but there are always other methods for the industrious (read: non-lazy) folk... >It sure is hard to categorize Happy's music. Here in Cherry >Hill, NJ, Tower Records has her in the folk section! Still no sign of Happy in the DC Tower (yes, I've checked Rock, Import (which includes US indie), Folk, and New Age). >those raised on musical pablum will probably never grok this album. I find this a bit condescending. A lot of music I love has made it into the Top 40 (and even more specifically, top 10) either here or abroad. We all sit around and diss Top 40 (and a lot of it *is* dreck), but then we find ourselves scurrying to make excuses when something we like suddenly appears in the list. What will you do if "Runners" becomes a hit and Happy's concerts are flooded by teeny-boppers? It *could* happen. My 16 year old sister has been blasting "Warpaint" through the house for the last several days, and it probably won't be long 'til she subjects her friends to it. I, too, really like "I Say" though not in its entirety. The phonetic bit (which I won't even try to recreate! ;-) is really wonderful, and I love the lyrics. Did you notice that it's diametrically opposed to the last song on _Warpaint_, "In Hiding"? There's nothing hidden in "I Say" and I think that's rather signficant. I doubt it's inclusion and placement on _Equipoise_ is a random occurrence. >One of my other fave Hapsongs Scarce in Mention is Til the Dawn >Breaks. Of course it's rarely mentioned--it's *old*! It's one of the songs that makes _Rearmament_ my favorite Happy Rhodes album, though (despite the fact that it contains my single least favorite song by her, "Box H.A.P." which is just too much repetition). "'Til the Dawn Breaks", "Crystal Orbs" "Because I Learn," "Baby Don't Go," "Friend You'll Be," "Dreams Are" and on and on. Definitely my favorite overall. Jeff (who's listening to _The Secret Policeman's Third Ball_ (which, incidentally, is that final, unfittable KaTe CD from my file-system saga of last night) and remembering Happy's mention of AI in her phone interview with Vickie, and wondering if Happy will ever make it onto another such album...) ======================================================================== Subject: EQUIPOISE in Wuppertal!!! From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 19:14:20 GMT EQUIPOISE in Wuppertal !!! But not my hands. :( It's still at the post office and I can collect it tomorrow at 8am. Now, shall I take the discman with me to work and risk that I won't get any work done? That'll be a hard decision. Waaah, a pile of Equipoise's just two miles away ... Claudia will pass the post office in a couple of minutes, but they are closed. I can nearly hear the discs from here. later (sigh) ... ... Klaus. _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.w.open.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 0:09:16 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: lurker no more > lurker no more > Hi all! > I've been on the ecto mailing list since December when I got _Ecto_ and > _Warpaint_ and I decided it is time I finally posted to say hi and sort of > introduce myself. Hi Julianne! > Ok, so I'm addicted to Happy. I love it! Good luck in your quest for a grad school. I hope you can make it through Chicago soon. There is someone on Love-Hounds(gaffa) who lives in Tucson, Judi. I'm sure she'd tell you about some stores there. I'm glad you posted! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 0:12:21 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: He will Come/The Flight Kiri wrote: > I did get the album....I have listened to it several times and > will post impressions shortly... Was there any doubt I would > love it though? :) Nope! (I'm looking forward to your impressions) Has Courtney got her copy yet? Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 0:31:12 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Humbled and Awed Neile, wow, thank you. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 1:14:39 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Hoo-ray! For the postalfolks for getting Equipoise to Europe and Australia already! Anthony, thanks for the review of _Rain Without Thunder_. It's playing here now, for a week. I've only seen one other review besides yours and it was a bad one. Still, the subject matter is enough to make me want to see it. Mike (Mendelson), I *loved* all your long posts from yesterday. (I do apologise for offending you, and anyone else. I shouldn't put myself down at the expense of other people, sorry.) Robert, I'd *love* to have a good copy of the HelenL interview! The copy I have sounds terrible (which is one of the reasons I was holding off making the interview tape for Doug's dub collection. I had been waiting for another copy that never came.) I have half of it transcribed, but hadn't gotten to the second half. With a better copy it will be easier to hear what's being said. (Thanks, btw, for what *you* said.) Angelos, I heard from someone tonight who bought 3 Happy CDs at Tower in...Cambridge, I think. It was someone from the Tori list. She bought VI, VII & Rearmament and said they didn't have any others. She actually wanted Warpaint, so I hope they re-stock soon. Doug, I'll send you a list in the next couple of days. It will be *so* hard to choose. Kevin sent me a CD put out by MIDEM (that European distribution convention) and Happy is represented twice. Waking Up and Feed the Fire are both on there. Because she has two songs, she's on two different pages of the CD booklet. The first time, it's the cover of Warpaint, and the second is the promo photo from last year. That one is in an especially good spot. It's on the last page of the booklet, so it's the first thing you see when you open up the CD case. So, just to clear things up (because I was confused too), Happy is on *two* different CD samplers now. 1) This one from MIDEM, which will go out to distributors all over the world. It's the one that will hopefully get her distributed globally. Contains "Waking Up" and "Feed the Fire." 2) The Hard Report CD sampler, which will be sent to Adult Alternative radio stations around the country. That one has "Runners" on it. Bad news, the REALLY BIG NEWS has fallen through. I can't say anything about it yet, but Kevin's going to fax me an official explanation of what it was and what happened. I should have that it a few days. Don't worry though, soon there will be even better REALLY BIG NEWS! (I mean that literally. Again, I can't say anything, but it will be nice. Kevin has to give the word on that one too.) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 19:07:19 -0500 From: ecurrent@sizone.jaywon.pci.on.ca (Mr. Plow) Subject: a quick note... Just a couple of things from this semi-lurker... First of all... inspired by the recent new release and a bit of unexpected extra income, I finally ordered the 4 Happy CD's that I need yesterday (those being "Rhodes I", "Rearmament", "Warpaint" and "Equipoise"). Basically, there is not *one* store in Toronto that stocks Happy's material, so I had no choice but to order the stuff directly. (My wife and I picked up "Ecto" and "Rhodes II" in NYC during our honeymoon there last November, after being introduced to Happy through a tape-trade with S. Alan, who's here on ecto as well I think.) Also, I don't remember if I mentioned this before, but my wife (Krista) and I also saw Loreena lie while in NYC, and it was truly one of the most awe-inspiring shows I've ever seen. First of all, I should point out that Loreena is quite popular here in Canada, and when she plays live in Toronto, it's generally to an audience of a couple of thousand people, so I haven't seen her in the past. However, in the NYC, she was playing The Bottom Line, a cabaret-style venue that holds about 200 people. Krista and I got there pretty early for her second of two shows, and managed to get seats right up front. As I said, it was awe-inspiring. One more quick question... are S. Alan and I the only Canadians here on ecto? Like I said earlier, Happy is basically unknown here in Canada, so if it wasn't for Alan, I still wouldn't know about her. Thank heavens for the 'net! :-) Greg Clow - asst. sysadmin, Sonic Interzone BBS - (416) 968-7292 ecurrent@sizone.jaywon.pci.on.ca ecurrent@zooid.guild.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I love crap we'll never need -- that's my favorite kind of crap!" - Max ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 23:28:02 PST From: "John M. Relph" Subject: Discography Is there a full Happy Discography available? Or does it as of now only include her four cassettes, six CDs and two comps? (Klaus told me to ask.) -- John ======================================================================== From: dorje@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Berkowitz) Subject: equipoise and other random late-night notes Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 1:52:49 CST Yes, I'm coming out of the woodwork, munching on stale tortilla chips and feeling a little bit guilty that I *should* be running computer searches for my library research (I know I could probably use emacs to read Ecto =and= do RealWork[TM] simultaneously, but I'm such a unix weenie I haven't figured that stuff out yet. Anybody want to hand me a clue?) I digress. My point is that I just experienced my first listen of Equipoise over at Chip's place tonight - Yay! Sadly, I am sure I'll be the last ectophile on my block (or at least the greater Rogers Park/Edgewater neighborhood area) to get my own copy =-( -- leastways until Citibank no longer owns my sandwich bread! It's too early for me to verbalize any real impressions or favorites or analyses...just a couple of thoughts from trying to catch up: 1. The "production" thing: I really don't see Equipoise as being Overproduced, per se....more sound/layers, undoubtedly. But I was thinking about it while listening, and I really see the production for this album as being suited in general for the songs themselves...imagining the songs with lighter elements just didn't seem to work, and had a similar block withth heavier tracks over a lot of Happy's earlier works. Everything Happy has done so far seems appropriate in the context of the songs IMHO (Okay, I'll confess some of the stuff is a little bit too capital-A Amigaed for my taste...but then what artistic feats have I accomplished in my basement/apartment lately?) 2. Gabrielle: I found the whole Gabrielle/vampire/He Will Come/Flight discussion fascinating---has there been any discussion about possible influences from Anne Rice's Vampire books? I believe there is a Gabrielle character in the series, though it's been a few years...if I'm remembering correctly then the songs aren't likely to be *about* the same situation, just a thought. Well, it's late and I'm none too coherent and the incoming messages are botching up the vaguely sensical stuff I've written anyway--think I'll take that as my sign to duck back into hiding for the night! Peace, Shelby ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 10:40:32 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: magic moments - it is HERE ... ... i.e. Klaus has got his package from AG what means that I will get my copy tomorrow. YAY 8-) 8-) 8-) (bouncing through the computer room) Hi there, Welcome to Julianne from Chimpanzee-Nirvana (sorry, I couldn't resist :-) and to all the other new subscribers. I went to see a friendly couple these days and brought along my copy of Warpaint. Their first reaction was (simultaniously): "Hey, she sounds exactly like a mixture of Sally Oldfield and Kate Bush." Sally Oldfield?!? I've never heard about this comparison before. Tracy Barber: > EC>I've found a CD-database in Berlin. It contains three entries > EC>for "Equipoise": Larry Coryell, Roy Haynes and Happy Rhodes :-) > EC>I'm on edge for what I'll find next. > > Poop! Now I've started something out of control. Get =equipoised= > Trace, it'll be ok... ok, ok, I've stopped the Equipoise search. Here comes a list of books filed under Warpaint .... ;-) Jessica yearning: > at the same time I feel in contradicting ways - I feel I will never > see him again (he may as well have died), but I also feel very certain > that in time i *will* see him again. it is a small world, after all, > isn't it.. and the power of the connection between us makes me feel > certain that it will pull us together somehow. I made the same experience in 1989 on an excursion in Zimbabwe. When we made an examination into the Coordinated Agricultural and Rural Development (CARD) project in Gutu District / Masvingo Province we had a lodging in an elementary school where we've been welcomed by two friendly young single white female English teachers, Kirsty and Sonja. From the first time I looked into Kirsty's eyes I had this magic feeling. Carsten and I spent the first evening at their house and in the second night it happened. Kirsty and I went out for a stroll. The school yard was flooded with moonlight and some wolves were howling in the distance... ok, to make a long story shorter: I spent the remaining nights in the house and when we left I knew that maybe we will never see us again. Exactly one year later, when Kirsty was back in England, she came to see me for 10 days. We've been together as if we've never been seperated. Then came the second farewell. But we feel very certain that one day we will see each other again and that it will pull us together somehow (to say it in Jessica's words). Since then, I haven't had a durable connection. ok, I could have had a few, but I never felt this "magic moment" again. Talking about episodes: my every-morning-breakfast-episode is Dallas (yes, they replay the whole bunch from the very beginning), and my every-afternoon-coming-home-from-university-and-relax-episode is The Simpsons (I hope I will never end like Homer :-) BTW, Ray has just become acquainted with Donna what has been such a magic moment. Jeff: > the single most fun word to type that I've yet found (on QWERTY, of course; > I think I'd have problems typing it on Dvorak...but maybe that's 'cause I'm > about 500% faster on QWERTY...;-) .....what is QWERTZ on a German keyboard ;-) Dirk (can't await ... you know what) ------------------------------ "Before any kind of change occurs there has to be awareness. Awareness is something we're all born with - it keeps us from walking into door-jambs and falling off chairs. I think, when you're aware, you're incredibly aware and that makes life a lot more interesting." Michael Stipe (R.E.M.) ======================================================================== From: rhogan@chaph.usc.edu (Ron Hogan) Subject: Connie Champagne Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 2:15:59 PST Hi Vickie! > Hi Ron! > > > Recent perusal of the used bin at Rhino in Santa Monica came up with > > Connie Champagne's LA STRADA, including lounge-like versions of Iggy > > Pop's "Shades' and Lou Reed's "All Tomorrow's Parties", as well as > > standards like "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" and "Frenchette." > > It's uneven, but I like it. Do you know anything about her? Or perhaps > when she might be coming out with a new album? Actually, and unfortunately, no. I had never heard of her before, and I haven't heard of her since. No ideas as to whether there will *ever* be another Connie Champagne album. On the other hand, I am currently recommending Rhino Records' new collection of late 70's pop and punk DIY. The five volumes out now detail UK pop and punk and the NY scene from roughly 1976-1979 altogether. Among the gems included: demos of Anarchy in the UK and God Save the Queen, "Airport" by the Motors, "Girl of My Dreams" by Bram Tsaichovsky, "So It Goes" and "Mary Provost" by Nick Lowe, and "Starry Eyes" by the Records. Oh, and "Chinese Rocks" by the Heartbreakers. Future volumes will include the LA punk scene and the Boston scene, no doubt including the Mission of Burma and Jonathan Richman and the Modern Lovers. Granted, I was under ten years old when all of this music came out originally, but I spent the bulk of my adolescence listening to WFNX in Boston, so I heard it all there. And I also heard a song called "land of the Glass Pinecones," by a band whose name I could never remember. I want to say that it was Human Sexual Response, but I don't really trust my memory. What does anybody else have to say? Ron ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)