Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #417 ecto, Number 417 Friday, 5 February 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* BGs This is the one... (minor spoilers) Gopher!!!!! It's a fine addition to the fold! (minor spoilers) This will do... HaPpY Birthday Re: Secret Hall of Shame somE CTOmments New Mouth Music ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 21:58:29 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Potter Subject: BGs Michael writes: >P.S. No I'm not a closet Beegees fan, but I do sometimes having the >sound-track from Saturday Night Fever running through my head for no >apparent reason! How could I forget that THAT was one of the 8-tracks my dad played over and over. And then when we got a turntable, he got the album. And then he bought the movie. Dont ask me why, I dont know. I never saw the movie, but I sure know how you feel, Michael! Skaludy spotter@darwin.bio.uci.edu ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 1:31:55 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: This is the one... (minor spoilers) ...that will break Happy around the country, maybe the world. I'm sure of it. I talked to Kevin tonight and he said that they hired a woman to do their promotion. Her name is Michelle and she is very familiar with the "business" having worked for Private Music (America's answer to ECM) with lots of contacts. Kevin sent her 1000 CDs for pormotional purposes, so they'll be going to every major magazine, radio station, what have you. She's flying out to San Francisco this weekend for a Gavin Report music convention. (The Gavin Report is a radio trade magazine.) They have another person who is doing nothing but getting radio stations lined up. I forgot to write down her name but she's very good at what she does. Most of the radio play Warpaint got was due to her persistence in calling and pushing. The Hard Report, another radio trade magazine, mainly concerned with "Adult Alternative" formats, is all a gaga over Happy. They'll be reviewing Equipoise, and they're interviewing her for an upcoming article. Right now, the *very* important thing they're doing is a compilation album. It will be a regular feature, sent to all AA radio stations, and they just released their first one. Happy's "Runners" is on there (Kevin said it was track 11 out of 17.) Kevin reeled off the names of the other 16 artists on the compilation but I didn't write them down. 10,000 Maniacs were on there, so was Bel Canto's "Shimmering Warm and Bright." Just imagine...well, just imagine...yes, this one is the one. This is going to be *so* exciting to watch! Multitudes of CDs went out today to distributors and individuals, so they should be in stores very soon, and those of you who ordered directly from H&K should get yours next week. Kevin mailed the CDs (to individuals in the USA, anyway) via 4th class mail. He sent mine last Friday, and it arrived today, so that's an indication. More will be sent out tomorrow to individuals. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 22:30:22 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Potter Subject: Gopher!!!!! Wow! It's amazing! Does anyone else out there have Gopher on their computer system? If so, why havent you told us about it???? If not, You got to get this! It is public domain, so its just a matter of FTPing it. It is a program that allows you to roam around the Internet with speed and ease, totally displacing anonymous FTP, Archie, and more. I can read the Usenet news at universities all over the world! I can get or just look at files in archives everywhere. Finding ECTO archives was a snap! Right there, along with discographies for a gazillion other groups, was Happy Rhodes! And there is a "lyrics Search" utility, for when you want to know who did that song you just heard. I was showing a friend Gopher, and asked her for "something lyrical" to search for, and she picked "nostril" (the word, not hers :). In about 5 seconds of pondering, I thought of a Siouxsie and the Banshees song with that word in it. Well in 10 seconds, Gopher found that one, and about ten others! WITH THE WORD NOSTRIL IN THEM! This is amazing. It was just a matter of double-clicking on the folder icon for each of the found artists, and lyrics to complete albums were spewing onto my screen. I am using TurboGopher, for macs, but they have Unix versions and probably many other platforms too. My Labmate, Roger, who is addicted to Tetris and Sargon (chess), was wishing that he had a computer Go game, and within 5 minutes, he was playing an Othello I downloaded using Gopher. (Couldnt find Go :( ) There's congressional papers, weather, whole books like Alice in Wonderland and the Bible, FAQs of all sorts, Archives Galore, you name it, it is all out there on the Internet, and oh-so-easy to find with Gopher. There is a usenet newsgroup about Gopher, I found out _after_ I started reading the news with Gopher! (I dont think you can post or upload stuff with Gopher, tho.) And its all FREEE FREEEE FREEEEEEE! Go pher it! Skaludy spotter@darwin.bio.uci.edu ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 2:33:38 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: It's a fine addition to the fold! (minor spoilers) I shouldn't have added a spiler warning to the last post, sorry. I'm not good at this, describing music. I *love* it, and I don't know what else to say. It's still too new for me to be able to write coherently about. Just because I've listened to it at least 10 times doesn't mean that I can talk about it. I'm still getting used to it. I've taped it (it's almost exactly 60 minutes long) so I can listen to it tomorrow. My walkman is weirded out, but it will work if I hold on to the connection between the headphones and the headphone jack. Anyway, with "lifetime" music I have to listen over and over and over again, mostly without even paying attention to what I'm hearing, in order to get the music deeply and firmly imbedded into my being/psyche/soul/mind. I don't even really pay attention to the lyrics until I'm intimately familiar with the music. Then, once I know the lyrics, I can concentrate on the minute details. It's a process that I only go through for a few artists, but it's an important process for me. That's why it's impossible for me to write a proper review right now. I can write a few thoughts though... Will it become my favorite Happy album? No, I don't see that happening. That's not a negative reflection on this album though. Ecto is and always will be my favorite, and yes, partly for sentimental reasons. Is it up to the standards of quality of the other albums? Absolutely! Is it *Happy*? Oh yes, you bet! (As in, has she changed her style dramatically? No.) Will other Happy fans love it too? A presumtious YES! Which albums is it "closest" to? Warpaint...absolutely. No guitar solos :-( (Makes me realize that I haven't heard any acoustic guitar. The credits say that she did play guitar, so I just haven't noticed it. I'll have to listen specifically for the guitar on the songs listed and having it._ "Mother Sea" is the most beautiful thing in the universe at this particular moment...(pardon me while I swoon and melt into a big glob on the floor...) Ok, my brain's working again...:-) I'm very pleased to say that she uses the *full* range of her voice throughout the album, so fans of her very high ("Kate-ish") voice will not be disappointed. I actually thought the day would come when she wouldn't ever use it anymore. I'm glad I was wrong. She uses it much more on this album than she did on Warpaint. Those who missed the "tour" will get to hear what Kelly Bird sounds like. She duets on the song "Closer" and sounds fantastic! All of the band members appear at various points on the album, but it's still almost all Happy and Kevin. Everything in the booklet will need to be typed in, but I haven't gotten any of it done yet. I was thinking...to have the lyrics for the archives, we could do it the same way we did Warpaint, with many people typing in a song each. *I'll* do "Mother Sea"! :-) I'll compile all the lyrics and get them uniform-looking before sending them to Jessica and Dave Datta. Favorite song: one guess :-) Least favorite song: "Cohabitants", but I think I'll come to like it a lot. Radio song: Hands down, "Runners". Kevin's favorite song is "I Say". Dunno what Happy's is yet. Angelos, "Play the Game" is not the Queen song. Everything on the album is original. The cover? Yes, there is one :-) Hint: YKTR meets H.R Geiger Y'all are gonna *LOVE* the photo inside the booklet, and especially the one on the little insert card Kevin will include. That's enough for now. I know I'll have plenty more to say about it in the days ahead. Yours, in humbleness at being the first, Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 2:37:18 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: This will do... ...'Till the Dawn Breaks --------------------------------------------------------------------- RUSSIAN PROBE TO LIGHT THE NIGHT Moscow (AP) -- Turning night into day is the stuff of Bible stories and science fiction. But Wednesday night, an unmanned Russian spaceship will shine a reflected solar spotlight from the heavens onto the dark side of Earth. Weather permitting, light from the orbiting mirror should appear as a flaring star to those within the repidly moving 2 1/2-mile-wide path it illuminates. If it works, Operation Banner could lead to the development of panels of space mirrors powerful enought to light up nighttime work projects, rescue operations and sun-starved polar regions--something like a cosmic klieg light. Such practical uses of the night light are still a decade away and face many hurdles, including funding, flight director Viktor Blagov said Tuesday. ------------------------------------------------------------------- On the news last night, it was reported that the experiment worked exactly as planned. Mitch, I'm suprised you missed this! I meant to send it last night but spaced it off. (Ha! The pun was unintentional, honest!) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 09:53:24 +0000 From: Terry Partis Subject: HaPpY Birthday Here's wishing a very Happy Birthday to Gene Sady on February 7th. Have a great day Gene Peace, Terry =============================================================================== _ __ Jolly Hockeysticks _ __ / `-' ( ,,, / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' Terry (Tel Boy) Partis \_.-._( ''' _ __ (tgp@ukc.ac.uk) _ __ / `-' ( ,,, With a smile and a song / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] I'm HaPpY | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' \_.-._( ''' YYUR - YYUB - ICURYY4ME ================================================================================ ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: Secret Hall of Shame Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 17:29:01 BST On Thu, 04 Feb 93 at 10:00:52 GMT, GTP10@phx.cam.ac.uk wrote: > Heh! What's wrong with having ELO albums? I've still got several of them > (indeed I have several on CD). ...and I'd have to agree. I have six ELO albums, three on CD, and they are among my favourites. I'm sorry if I ought to feel ashamed of this, but I don't. Come to that I can't think of anything in my collection of which I'm ashamed. Although my tastes have broadened considerably over the years, I can honestly say that there's nothing there that I wouldn't be happy to admit to in public. Mind you, I do have some things of which some friends of mine think I *ought* to be ashamed. In particular I have two albums by Samantha Fox (whose only real claim to fame was as a topless model) and a Kylie Minogue single which seem to elicit expressions of wonder from some visitors. But I remain unrepentant: I like them and, yes, I *DO* sometimes play them. Perhaps I have no taste! -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 14:20:59 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: somE CTOmments Hi, and welcome to all the new Ectophiles (are we still fewer than 1000?) Belated Happy Birthdays to Tim an Stephen! Pheeew! I've just read the last bunch of digests. Vickie asked: > Does Sesame Street air in other countries? Martin, did you say you've > seen it before? If so, is it the American version or is it produced > in Australia? Yes, in Germany. I've seen it when I was a child. In the beginning they aired the original (dubbed) version. But then they decided to produce a German version, because the "street-life" had too much an American character. I never liked the German puppets, but they still show Ernie, Bert, and the other original muppets. Meredith: > My favorite song when I was 4 was Gary Wright's "Dream Weaver". Wow, you remember things from when you were 4? - but wait: > (Mike, "meth" is NOT short for methadone. When I was 3 I decided it would be > cool to take the first two and last two letters of my name and make a > nickname out of it, and it stuck. Family members call me that, and for years ..from when you were 3!! I believe you were told about that. Remembering my childhood, I only can say that things happened before I went to school or when I joined the elementary school. I have a lot of reminiscenes but I'm not able to appoint: this happened when I was 5 and that when I was 7. and: > Mercifully, I hadn't yet acheived Musical Awareness until the 70's were > blissfully over, and when I did the first album I got with my own money was > Blondie's _Parallel Lines_ (which I still listen to from time to time). My first album, which I bought in 1977, was Pink Floyd's "Meddle". I only had a singles collection before (which included some nice ABBA records, and Smokey, and The Sweet, and ... I think I should stop here :) Chris Boek: > Aaannyway. The only 'Guilty Pleasure' that springs to mind is that > I quite like the first two albums by A-ha (I haven't heard any others). > I picked up Scoundrel Days in a record bin for $2 many years ago > (when you could still buy records ...) and I like it. Why feeling guilty? I have "Scoundrel Days", too, and "East Of The Sun West Of The Moon", which is better IMO (ok, I found them in cut-out bins and hadn't bought them for the full price). Anthony: > Once, an even longer time ago, I owned ALL of The Wombles records. I had one of their singles when I was a child. Can't remember the title. Neile Graham: > Hello everyone. Had to share my news: I picked up our mail today and > guess what I found there (no not _Equipoise_ yet)--a letter accepting my > second book of poems for publication!! Congratulations, Neile. > Wow. I'm on cloud nine. ===> Ectophiles do it on cloud nine. Michael B.: > P.S. No I'm not a closet Beegees fan, but I do sometimes having the > sound-track from Saturday Night Fever running through my head for no > apparent reason! I know that phenomenon very well. It's like wearing a phantom-walkman. (What about inventing an ECTO-walkman: a walkman that is invisible and intangible, and that plays Happy's music all the time?) It's very annoying that very often the worst songs are running through my head and I can't get rid of them, like Modern Talking, Snap, Erasure, etc. On another tangent: I heard the new Sting single - it's wonderful! His new album will be out on Feb 22nd. Time to go to sleep Dirk ------------------------ "We gon' do a li'l toon that hits ya right where ya live," growled vocalist Wendell (from The Holmes Brothers) to the crowded room as the band launched into 'I Want Jesus to Walk With Me'. (at the Real World recording week in summer 1991) "I always imagined Real World would be like it has been this week" PG ======================================================================== Subject: Re: somE CTOmments Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 09:00:43 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Dirk writes: >Wow, you remember things from when you were 4? - but wait: >..from when you were 3!! I believe you were told about that. Remembering >my childhood, I only can say that things happened before I went >to school or when I joined the elementary school. I have a lot of >reminiscenes but I'm not able to appoint: this happened when I was 5 and that >when I was 7. Just 'cause *you* can't remember things from when you were very young doesn't mean other people can't! F'ristance, I have a very clear memory of the automobile showroom wherein my father bought his Fiat convertible. The year was '71, and I was 2 years old. A year and a half later, right around the time I turned 4, we bought a station wagon, and after picking it up from the dealer, my father came and picked me up from nursery school. I remember sitting in the front passenger seat and working my way through the script lettering on the cover to the glove compartment. I also have very clear memories of a resort my family used to go to every year for New Year's Eve; the last time we went was New Year's '73, when I was 3 1/2. I can tell you the exact layout of the house I lived in 'til I was 4, and I can remember particular rooms of the house we rented for 3 months that summer after we moved out of our old house. A friend once told me that my memory wasn't better than his--just my filing/access system. And Now for Something Completely Different >> P.S. No I'm not a closet Beegees fan, but I do sometimes having the >> sound-track from Saturday Night Fever running through my head for no >> apparent reason! To tie into all these SNF memories: my family used to be in the movie theater business, and my father and I have an extensive collection of 'standees', the cardboard lobby displays one finds in movie theaters. One of the more, um, interesting ones is for _Saturday Night Fever_. It's 10' tall, maybe 7' wide, has a dancefloor with cut outs so that flashing color lightbulbs will show through, has a LIFE SIZE CARDBOARD CUTOUT OF JOHN TRAVOLTA, and a cardboard mirrored disco ball comprised of two circles of cardboard which through the use of slots are mounted perpendicular to one another; this hangs over John's head and rotates on a string. Americana to the max! Jeff ======================================================================== From: mas@cs.bu.edu (Mark Semich) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 10:09:18 -0500 Subject: New Mouth Music 'Scuse me if this is already known, but it's new to me... I overheard the Ryco rep talking to the manager in Tower Records yesterday, and apparently there is a new Mouth Music album coming out this tuesday, Feb 9th. I actually got to hold it, but it was a copy for the manager, so I didn't get to buy it... :-( =========================================================================== "Fashions so hot, our store burned down." -- Allston Beat -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- mark a. semich mas@csa.bu.edu =========================================================================== ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)