Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #172 ecto, Number 172 Tuesday, 25 February 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* I'm free, to do what I want, any old time... Happy News (Yes!) Fluff'n'Stuff Happy Newsletter Robyn Hitchcock and stuff Fluff (tm) Stuff speaking of ALbany for those who dont get Gaffa (like me)...some thoughts about Kate. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 24 Feb 92 09:27:26 EST From: David N. Blank-Edelman > Does someone have information/recommendations about the music of Mari > Boine Persen from Finland? Oooh, Ooh, I'll bite. This is one of my favorite albums on Realworld records. Persen has an incredible voice. She is very expressive even though I don't know the language she sings in. The instrumentation is rather diverse (guitar, clarinet, dulcimer, frame drum, charango to name a few) and is very well played. By the way, she's actually from Samiland (which is sort of the northern parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland, and the ex-USSR), formally known by the dergoatory term Lapland. I'll be glad to field more questions, but the one I have to answer right now: buy it. Run to your nearest record store and buy it. Peace, dNb ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1992 0:26:09 +0800 (SST) From: N_HAYS@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au (Martin Down Under - COOEEE!) Subject: I'm free, to do what I want, any old time... YES! YES! YES! I finished my thesis! HOOOOOOOOOOOO WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! > "Sleep deprivation is fun. You see such pretty colors." :-) (beatific and extremely tired smile) Klaus sez: > be sure to be on [Jessica's] KaTe-TalK server How? What is it? Sounds really good, though. Jessica: OK... now I have a little more time and money... is it too late to order one of your remaining t-shirts? I'm not sure if I need L or XL.... I'm a fairly big lad but the general consensus seems to be that XL is really XXXXL. (Possibly that has nothing to do with 4-X Lager) Can someone please measure the flattened dimensions of their t-shirt and pass it on? Ciao... I'm off to sleep for a few days.... ah bliss, cover me softly. Martin ,-----------------------------------------------------------------------------. | They call me the breeze, I keep blowin and a'blowin. | Martin Dougiamas | | I ain't got me nobody, I ain't carryin' no load. |-------------------| | Ain't no changin' the weather, ain't no changin' me. | Curtin Uni, Perth | | I ain't hidin' from nobody, ain't nobody hidin' from me.| Western Australia | `== Call me the Breeze - J.J. Cale ===========================================' ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Happy News (Yes!) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 92 11:41:52 EST Hi, In a very typical way, I got up late today, and got my mail before going to school, and there it was. The Happy Newsletter. A two-page brochure, with Happy news. (Well, we knew most of the stuff already, but there it was in print). You will all get one, so I am not sure if I should spill the new news. It will just make the ones not going to the concerts more jealous... Well alright: * She might be playing a couple of NEW NEW songs in concert.(YES!) * The new album is probably NOT going to be released this year (:-(). * There will be 8 (eight) unreleased gems on the re-released 1st4. * Details on ecto (us) are given. A side note: No references whatsoever to Fu-blu-ma-li. :-) The labels are computer printouts (a sign that they are doing this seriously and with more of those to come in the future!). They were sent out on Sat. Feb. 21! Angelos ------------------------------------------------------- \ UP / )... I was above IT, now I'm in IT ... ( / DOWN \ ------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== From: kIrI Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1992 15:36:28 EST Subject: Fluff'n'Stuff } Klaus sez: } > be sure to be on [Jessica's] KaTe-TalK server } WHAAAAnAAHH! I want to be on KaTe-TalK. Alas this gawd-dam* piece of junk system they had to donate to us does not want to compile the client. What ever happened to good ole reliable Clutx. *insert pathetic little whimper here* :_( excuse my rather brusque language but my catch word for the week is ____ _____ ____ ____ ____ ____ |____ | |____) |____ |____ |____ ____| | | \ |____ ____| ____| Received my Happy News too...what a pleasant surprise to find that in my mailbox. They should add a one question or how many ever they want to do Q/A section on it...we ask the Q's and Happy does the A's, kinda like before, but this would reach others if they weren't on Ecto....Yes, No, Maybe So?? I think it would be kinda unique and different, if it could be done. Just rediscovered Warpaint today. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do...I just can't keep my feet still when I listen to We're Waking UP. It's such a perfect song. It forces you to listen...to wake up! Can I be overzealous, and melodramatic here...YES...Happy is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo awesome. Oh darn...the drum machine never fails to annoy me though :( can't wait to hear these songs live....oh just let me melt right on the spot...NOT! :) kIrI wondering if it hurts cows when they put those milking machines on the utters or if they just feel something wild and crazy.... -- o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o { hargieka@craft.camp.clarkson.edu } O _ _ _ _ iamecto@chinet.chi.il.us O { | _ | `Im ten feet underwater } O |< _|_ | _|_ standing in a sunken canoe O { looking up at the water lillies } O they're green and violet blue' R.F. O {]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o[o]o ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 24 Feb 92 14:54 GMT From: Merow!! a few items from the sick cat in Wales...me-croak-w! i got the t shirt in the mail today!! mew mew mew!! it is GREAT Jess!! and you all want to know something?? it might be the only thing that could POSSIBLY induce me to wear color these days!!! it is to ONLY colored thing in my wardrobe..so it holds a doubly dear position!!! besides the fact that it is WAY COOL! at least all my black has a reason now..mourning for Hannah Bush..poor thing.. i hope they all recover from this blow quickly. hope to see EVERYONE at the European party..i am trying my hardest to get well so that noone seems me drooping and moaning in March! of course it isnt reasonable to assume that EVERYONE can make it, so i hope to see as many as possible..i just wish there were someway we could all send each other pix and stuff so that we would just be nodes..and in some cases.. voices..to each other...visualizing a face is SOO much more helpful... tho in teh case of the SiG messages..it IS easier to pix the person now.. well..thats it for now i think..back to bed towrite the four 7 page essays due in in two weeks..luckily i can cough a few times and look pathetic (not hard the way i feel these days) and get an extension from very GULLIBLE professors..i am feeling better since i am taking things easier..but i will NOT get behind in work and i will NOT sacrifice my progress in ym weight loss program..so THERE!!!(sticking tongue out at venomous bacteria in body) sorry guys if it sounds childish but oh well.. thats the way i feel...off to bed then..*sigh* mew. Court! ======================================================================== Date: 25-FEB-1992 01:45:52.35 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Happy Newsletter Hi! Got a little something from AG today- a newsletter containing all the little newsbits we've been accumulating around here of late. Nice to know our sources are indeed reliable. :) And we got a plug, too- neat! I wonder if we'll accumulate some new Ectophiles this way... Klaus, I don't have a way to log on to the KaTe-server, so I guess I'll miss virtually attending your party. :( I'm sure we'll all get a report, though. *---------------------------------------------* | Meredith Tarr | | *** | | "Living in the gap between past and future" | | *** | | mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu | *---------------------------------------------* ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Feb 92 02:55:28 PST From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Robyn Hitchcock and stuff Well, the Robyn Hitchcock show was quite nifty. They had Matthew Sweet opening for him. Sweet was kind of strange in his own way, except musically, where it was all pretty conventional-sounding, just rocky love songs without much interest level for me. Hitchcock and the Egyptians were definitely fun jangly loopy pop, though. The lyrics were offbeat, the music was fairly interesting and very tightly played, and Hitchcock's interaction with the crowd and his strange remarks were very entertaining. I found that I liked both the (newer?) electric guitar stuff and the (older?) acoustic songs. I ran into a recent acquaintance at the show, who promptly said "I don't think I've ever heard Robyn Hitchcock before . . . " which I thought was hilarious because I was in the same situation and have been saying the same thing to people for the past few days. In the strange if it's true department: There were two short intermissions during which the roadies pulled out equipment for the acoustic set in the middle, then put back the electric stuff, during which the crowd stomped and clapped like they were calling for an encore, which seemed strange to me. But to the point, once they switched to acoustic stuff on stage, Robyn came out, started talking about the experience of death, then said "this song is dedicated to my father, who passed away this morning,", then played a song that I assume had the title "When I'm Dead". I can't say that I heard the dedication 100% clearly, what with the amplified sound (which was of excellent quality, not the sort of earblast that I was worried might happen) and crowd noise and such. Anyway, it seems a strange coincidence given other sad news we've heard lately. I wore my Happy Rhodes t-shirt around today. No remarks other than from my officemate, who I first gave the traditional nag ("Norm, have you ordered Warpaint yet?" "No, Steve . . . "), then pointed out the t-shirt to. Of course, the shirt is so big that the "Happy Rhodes" part is about over my bellybutton . . . ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Feb 92 07:39:27 MST From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Fluff (tm) Greetings, Well, it's been a couple of damned rough weeks recently, but a hectic pace at work and other problems have finally passed. Time to clear out my backlog of Ecto-fluff. Congratulations, Martin! Care to give us at least the title of your thesis? Unfortunately, I haven't been able to keep up with the list of new people who have joined this ever-burgeoning list, but a warm welcome to you all, anyway. I assume you know who you are! :) My sympathies to KaTe and kIrI, as it must be a bad times for moms. My mom had a brain tumor (benign) removed two weeks ago and is recovering oh-so slowly. A couple of items struck my Happy-heightened conscious recently. I don't know how many cruziverbalists (Consider this your Ecto word-of-the-day. (Who'd ever guess that Ecto would improve your vocabulary?)) are reading this, but a very familiar word appeared in a recent puzzle. Had I written it, the clue would have been 'Fuzzy blue mailing list' (or 'fu_blu_ma_li') or 'fourth album by superstar-to-be'. Alas, it was simply 'Plasm preceder', but it was fun to see. The other item is so flat out strange that I would wonder if I imagined it, if I hadn't been wide awake. My mind tuned out an ad on KTCL, per usual. However, an overly familiar phrase caught my attention, "warm fuzzies", as in "Warm Fuzzies of Fort Collins". However, I completely missed what they were selling. The best wild guess is auto seat covers, (and I do mean, wild). I had never heard the ad before, and haven't heard it since. I wish my stunned mind had had the presence to write down the announced phone number. The phone book has nothing under the heading. The mystery continues. Steve V, I'm glad someone else agrees with me about the extra spacious T- shirts. I have to be careful wearing it around Horsetooth Lake. Someone may try to use me and my tall thin frame out on the lake as a sail. :) One long overdue item on my fluff list is (are?) the lyrics for "MTA". Here they are. (And just watch Mitch beat me to it). (The lyrics I have mis- spelled a number of place names, and I corrected what I could. Any others, Bostonians?) MTA Well, let me tell you the story Of a man named Charlie On that tragic and fateful day. He put ten cents in his pocket, Kissed his wife and family, Went to ride on the MTA. Chorus: But, did he ever return? No, he never returned, And his fate is still unlearned (What a pity) He may ride forever 'neath the streets of Boston, He's the man who never returned. Charlie handed in his dime In the Kindle Square Station And a change for Jamaica Plain. When he got there the conductor Told him "One more nickel" Charlie couldn't get off of that train. Chorus Now all night long Charlie Rides through the station Crying "What will become of me?" How can I afford to see My sister in Chelsea or My cousin in Roxbury? Chorus Charlie's wife goes down To the Sculley Square Station Every day at a quarter past two And through the open window She hands Charlie a sandwich As the train comes rumblin' through. Chorus Now you citizens of Boston, Don't you think it's a scandal How the people have to pay and pay Fight the fare increase Vote for George O'Brien And get Charlie off the MTA. Chorus ... and that cosmonaut of the space station! Buying my Philadelphia airline ticket today, but still waiting for my Happy News .... Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Feb 92 09:32:15 EST From: ken@startek.com (Ken Descoteaux) Subject: Happy Newsletter I just have one question.. is that a typo about the performance time at the QE2??? 11:30pm for Happy to get on stage? Guess a roadtrip is a real long-shot now. Figured I'd be starting to drive back before then! Someone please tell me its a typo! -ken ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Stuff Date: Tue, 25 Feb 92 13:04:49 EST Ken writes: >I just have one question.. is that a typo about the performance time at the >QE2??? 11:30pm for Happy to get on stage? Guess a roadtrip is a real >long-shot now. A typo, or is it Happy's way to discourage fans from going? :-) Nahh. Maybe, Albany is a really swinging city, and never sleeps...But, remember it's Happy who's going to be playing, and if two hours of Happy 'dancing round the stage like wildfire' and playing 16 1st4 songs, and unreleased new songs can't keep us up, nothing can! And remember, on the way back we'll all probably be too hyper to sleep anyway...:-) BTW, where are you driving from? And Doug writes: >The lyrics I have mis- >spelled a number of place names, and I corrected what I could. Any others, >Bostonians?) > In the Kindle Square Station Kendall I'm not so sure about square (scwaah? :-)) Angelos +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| +=====================================+ ======================================================================== From: kIrI Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1992 13:17:30 EST Subject: speaking of ALbany Yes, I think that's the real time...Yea it's gonna be a real bummer trying to drive 3 hours back to Potsdam, after seeing the Holy Ghost strut her stuff. Which reminds me are we allowed to take pictures, I seem to remember seeing something about being allowed to, but I just want to verify...gonna have to go buy some 1000 film :) for the dark seedy punk hall - sheesh I should fit right in. :) Im so excited and so UNSTRESSED! I can graduatie now...my seminar is over! Yahooo!!!! literally about to bounce off my chair in hyperspazmosity! :) zippity do da zippity day my o my what a wonderful day plenty of sunshine coming our way zippity do da zippity day....hehe kIrI -- \____________________/_______________________________________\ | kIrI | hargieka@craft.camp.clarkson.edu | | "who is by my | Im a thinking breathing human being | | immortal side" | What the hell are you? | /-------------------\----------------------------------------/ ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Feb 92 18:55 GMT From: Merow!! Subject: for those who dont get Gaffa (like me)...some thoughts about Kate. From: CBS%UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY::EDU.SUNYIT::UAJG 24-FEB-1992 06:02:18.50 To: ex2dallas CC: Subj: Via: UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY; Mon, 24 Feb 92 6:02 GMT Received: from vax.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with SMTP inbound id <26883-0@sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk>; Mon, 24 Feb 1992 05:54:32 +0000 Received: from pool.info.sunyit.edu by vax.NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK via NSFnet with SMTP id aa19124; 24 Feb 92 5:46 GMT Received: by sunyit.edu (5.57/3.1.091691-SUNY -- Inst. of Tech.) id AA22489; Mon, 24 Feb 92 00:47:31 -0500 Message-Id: <9202240547.AA22489@sunyit.edu> From: uajg@edu.sunyit (Andrew Germaine) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1992 00:47:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) To: ex2dallas@uk.ac.swansea.vax Sender: uajg%edu.sunyit@edu.sunyit.info.pool daemon@Apple.COM (Wizard's Assistant) writes: Vickie writes: > Sadly, Kate's mother Hannah Bush passed away on Valentine's Day. > The cause of death has not been released to the public. Cards and > flowers may be sent to East Wickham Farm in Welling, Kent. > > A suggestion (not made by the family, but by me) would be to > donate a little something to your favorite charity, or to Kate's > favorite charity, The Terrence Higgins Trust in London, in Hannah's > name. The family is in seclusion and are not giving any interviews. Would you be interested in collecting donations from Love-Hounds and making the donation as a group? I think that the Terrence Higgins Trust would be a good choice. Please let us know... Melissa Caldwell You want my reply? The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198) What was the question? {n8emr|nstar}!bluemoon!bsbbs!mdc I was looking at the Big Sky mdc@bsbbs.UUCP As usual, I find that Kate says things better then I ever could: WHAT'S BEEN THE LOWEST POINT IN YOUR LIFE? In my life! The worst moments are when I've lost people that have meant something to me, when people have died. They're definitely the worst moments. It's probably just the selfish feelings of why you miss a person. You want them to be with you again, you want them more and they're not there. [MAKES OK SIGN] Because probably where they've gone, they're really having a good time. It you want to look at it, death, in a way, should be looked on as the greatest thing that's ever going to happen to you. (1980, Profiles In Rock) DO YOU COME FROM A PARTICULARLY ARTISTIC FAMILY? Well, my mother's a dancer, she won a lot of prizes cleaning the floor with the opposition, and my father's a musician. (1981, RM) I don't know if it was a dream or not, but I remember somebody looking over into my cot going something like "googgy wooogy woogy wooo". I might have been one, maybe two years old. My father was a doctor and my mother a nurse. Now she works on the phone for my father, taking calls. (1982, Flexipop) PADDY, MAYBE YOU'D GIVE A QUICK SKETCH OF YOUR CAREER AS A MUSICIAN PRIOR TO YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH YOUR SISTER. PADDY: Well, I suppose it all started off initially because there's always been so much music in our family. Our mother comes from a very musical family, all her brothers, i.e. our uncles, played on accordians and fiddles and stuff. So music was something we were always exposed to as young kids and we were always hearing Irish dance music, which has been very special to me ever since. (1985, Kate Bush Con) My mother's Irish and she always had relatives popping around, the vast majority of whom were superb musicians. They'd come around and play accordions and things. (1989, Pulse) My mother, to whom I have always been very close also, was a muse. But my eye was almost always on what my father was up to. Don't you think that, as a child, your aspirations are into the world? You take the whole domestic situation, including your mother, for granted. Little did I know it was mum who was holding it all together. (1989, You) An engineer we were working with picked out the line in "_And_Dream_of_Sheep_" that says "Come here with me now." I asked him why he liked it so much. He said, "I don't know, I just love it. It's so moving and comforting." I don't think he even knew what was being said exactly, but the song is about someone going to sleep in the water, where they're alone and frightened. And they want to go to sleep, to get away from the situation. But at the same time it's dangerous to go to sleep in water, you could drown. When I was little, and I'd had a bad dream, I'd go into my parents' bedroom round to my mother's side of the bed. She'd be asleep, and I wouldn't want to wake her, so I'd stand there and wait for her to sense my presence and wake up. She always did, within minutes; and sometimes I'd frighten her - standing there still, in the darkness in my nightdress. I'd say, "I've had a bad dream," and she'd lift bedclothes and say something like "Come here with me now." It's my mother saying this line in the track, and I briefed her on the ideas behind it before she said it. And I think it's the motherly comfort that this engineer picked up on. In fact, he said this was his favourite part of the album. (1987, KBC 21) HANNAH: We always encouraged Kate to write songs, but we never thought, we never dreamed, it would all turn out like this. We're very proud of her, naturally, but hasn't it all happened very suddenly? The doorbell's ringing all the time now from fans who want autographs. I have to collect them up and give them to Kate to sign. I worry about Kate at times, but she's a very stable girl and always seems to know what she's doing. She hasn't become affected in the slightest. (1978, Bush-Whacked!) HANNAH BUSH: [inaudible] Oh, in the show. I like her in all of it actually, the quality, her performance, and her stamina. HANNAH: Stamina, yes. I mean her stamina is fantastic. I mean she had to go on... We're very proud of that. [Taps Kate on the shoulder] Very professional, uh huh, isn't she? (1979, Kate Bush In Concert) -- INTERNET: rhill@netlink.cts.com (Ron Hill) UUCP: ...!nosc!ryptyde!netlink!rhill NetLink Online Communications * Public Access in San Diego, CA (619) 435-6181 ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)