Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #160 ecto, Number 160 Wednesday, 12 February 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* ectoreography Industrial & blue Re: greetings Brain death Ecto SiG received down under, and quite well, too! Ecto SiG? We've given it away! Partial Interview transcript Happy Thanks YOU! Review from The Music Independent Schenectady Gazette review ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Feb 92 15:57:55 PST From: barry@gnu.ai.mit.edu Hmm, hey jessica, I'm just curious, how many members of ecto are there, and how many of us subscribe to the Ecto newsletter? So, is there any part of the country ecto doesn't inhabit yet? :) Barry ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Feb 92 19:41:28 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: ectoreography mmmmhhhhh...9600 baud is *wonderful* - fast full screen editting and all sorts of nifty stuff. makes my life and my logged on time much nicer! highly recommended to all who can afford it or convince their employer that it's good for their business-related work... ;) sez: > Strange turn of phrase: At this moment, _Fresh Air_ on NPR is doing an >interview with Alex Chilton, late of the Box Tops and Big Star, in which he >says of a long-ago colleague: "His name was Dan Pan, and still is." which reminds me, mitch: sometime recently, robyn hitchcock was interviewed on some npr radio program. did you happen to hear it (you seem to be a much more avid listener to mpr than me). better yet, if you did hear it, did you record it? :) guetzlaf@gravity.cray.com (Cathy Guetzlaff) sez: >Except for drinking something blue... now *that's* perverse. 'tisn't! the fruit juicy blue tasted fine - and certainly looked better than green pizza dough! vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey) sez: >Michael, thanks for the Controlled Bleeding!! which one? dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) sez: >Do they make people larger on the East Coast these days? :) i use mine as a sleepshirt sometimes...kinda like the roominess. plus, it means that you don't need to get dressed in the morning - goes down to my knees... >How about blueberries? Definitely blue (well, a little bit purplish). but they are not *blue*. blueberries are too dark to be really considered blue in my book. >BTW, woj, love the word 'ectorquoise'. However, for the life of me, I can't >figure out what color that would be. :) kinda like a greenish blue turtle... ;) gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) sez: >another fairly non-ectoid purchase that i have purchased and enoyed is >Ned's Atomic Dustbin's latest (and only, as far as i know)... much too much like the wedding present to be distinctive for me. everytime i heard "kill your television", i immediately jump thinking that the wp have finally released another album in america...then i recall who it really is... jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu sez: >Actually, I think there are several people here who like Nirvana (I hesitate >to use the word 'fan'; I certainly don't own _Bleach_ and don't know if >others do). _Nevermind_ is a great album. agreed. i do own _bleach_ though (well, a copy of it...). better than _never- mind_ in my opinion, but then i like that kind of noisy stuff too - and _bleach_ is *much* noisier - not much melody there... off to volleyball... woj ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Feb 92 16:59:33 -0800 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: Industrial & blue To answer woj: > vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey) sez: > >Michael, thanks for the Controlled Bleeding!! > which one? "Trudge," my current favorite CB recording. Also, someone asked if there was actually such a thing as blue corn; there is indeed -- a drought-tolerant strain grown in the Southwest. Yum. Cheers, Mp _______________________________ "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." - F.N. 'Beyond Good and Evil' ======================================================================== From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Subject: Re: greetings Date: Tue, 11 Feb 92 16:24:30 CST Hi to Ken D.... > Thanks for the welcome, Jessica and Vickie. And thanks again Vickie for > answering 90% of my initial thoughts before I had a chance to ask! You're welcome, but, without an FAQ, what did I say that answered your questions?? > I do have a couple of questions left over though.. > A) Do my eyes deceive me? Or is it true that the 1st 4 will be available on > CD?? Woe is me! I guess I'll have to convert someone (besides Keith) and give > them a gift of 4 moderately used & worn cassettes... Someone will get good use out of them, I'm sure...the 1st4 are supposed to be released in May, but no date is set and details will be forthcoming sometime in the next couple of months. > B) Vickie, could you send me that FAQ? Keith and I have a few contortions to > go through to do ftp's I'll hold off, since I read that Doug is going to send one. Go ahead Doug. > C) What's the address, and what kind of tapes do I have to send to get the > ESiG & HGP (I'm also interested in the World Cafe/WXPN project..) 1 100-minute tape for the ESiG, 2 100-minute tapes for the HGP. Send to Vickie Mapes 1627 W. Farwell, #2N Chicago, IL 60626 along with a mailer and return postage. I'll get them back out to you ASAP. > D) What's the date for Albany (and a contact phone # of some sort) ? That's > not > *too* far from here, its closer than Philly, and it would be great to see > Happy! Wednesday, March 18 at the QEII in ALbany. I don't have an address for it. Phone number either. Tickets at the door. Price is unknown, probably $8.00. How far is *not too far*? Where do you live? > E) What's the news (if any) on HR#6 ? H&K hope to spend the summer recording it for a fall release. This is the plan, but don't hold me (or them) to it, because anything could happen in the next few months (like Happy might get discovered! Who knows?) > Perhaps all or most of these questions are answered in the FAQ, if so just > ignore them and I'll figure it out :^) Most of them are, but I wouldn't ignore you! > I have one story to contribute... last month I visited a friend in Newark, NJ > (sorry woj, time was tight) and knowing her taste in music, I mentioned I had > something that she had to listen to. When I said "Happy Rhodes", she said > that she'd heard of her and that Warpaint was great! But that was all she said. > So I asked, "What about the others?" "...*What* others??" > "The other *four* !" > > So we engaged in a Happy binge right there. The interesting part of the story > is that one of her friends has been in contact with Happy. (I'm not sure if > this was prior to, or after they discovered Warpaint, or whether it was voice > or mail.) Her friend had told Happy how great they thought Warpaint is... but > apparently the fact that Happy had 4 other albums never came out in their > conversations! Thanks for the Happy story! They must be familiar from WXPN airplay. I can't imagine how else. What a wild coincidence! It *is* a small world, isn't it? Well, I guess it doesn't seem that way to Upside-down Martin and Jim... Vickie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mitch's last sig. line reminded me of this song title from Lee Morse: "Taint No Sin To Take Off Your Skin and Dance Around In Your Bones" No kidding, that's the name of the song! It's from the early 30's and it's about how the weather is so hot and sticky she wants to take her clothes off and dance. It's very cool! Uh, no pun intended... ======================================================================== Date: 12-FEB-1992 01:41:08.45 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Brain death Hi! My brain just shut off. Don't ask me why I'm voluntarily sitting at this computer right now, I've been here for 14 hours with three short breaks, and I'm not exaggerating. My nether regions will never recover. Neither will my eyes... but I got the thesis chapter done, hooray. So why is "Deeper Understanding" going through my head? :) Played "Poetic Justice" on my show this morning (or was it yesterday?)- that's now officially my Favorite Happy Song Of All Time, subject to change next week. Re QEII- thanks Vickie. Gee, I may get to be a Happy Roadie after all! ;) Nirvana?!? Eeeeeesh. I guess all the hype would've turned me off anyway, but I'm not really into that sort of thing, anyway. Ned's Atomic Dustbin, however, I can handle when I'm in the mood- mostly because a good friend of mine saw them in Amsterdam and was sufficiently impressed by them to remember having seen them the next day, and to actually recognize "Kill Your Television" when they opened for Jesus Jones eight months later. It's one of those connection things. May I propose a new EctoPoll? How many hours of sleep on the average do we get a night (or day, whichever)? Or we couldn't, and just say we did. I'm going to bed. *---------------------------------------------* | Meredith Tarr | | *** | | "Living in the gap between past and future" | | *** | | mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu | *---------------------------------------------* ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1992 17:57:28 +0800 (SST) From: N_HAYS@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au (Martin Dougiamas) Subject: Ecto SiG received down under, and quite well, too! Martin here. Hey, my Ecto SiG finally got here. Twelve days that took! Love it... listening to "Point and Pull" right now, the groovy guitar solo towards the end... despite what B/R may think, this is a GREAT song! Is this guitar real or simulated? If real, who's playing it? BTW, I was in a music store recently and they had a Korg M1 (one of H&K's keyboards) set up so I had a good play with it ... great fun and it's not all that difficult to make reasonable sounding music. Of course, making really good music would take a little longer. The other demos are very good, too... although the drum machine is *slightly* annoying because it sounds a little too artificial (to me). Which reminds me, they passed the "wearing headphones and drumming along with out in the back shed" test this morning. :-) I especially love "When the Rain Came Down"...!! A surprise, Vickie? You bet! That song simply MUST be on one of the new CD's. The drums on this just seem to go round and round in big circles... it's damn hypnotising! Beautiful vocals, too... but what else could one expect? :-) Was great to hear the interview as well... I feel I understand Happy a lot better because of it. Thanks Vickie! Thankyou for the neat Ecto Happy photo, too! It is much to valuable to use as a keyring so it will remain pinned above my Mac here on the wall where I can look at it whenever I need the urge. :-) I feel the urge! I feel the urge!!! Aaaahhhh. Re: Nirvana. Don't get me wrong, I like Nirvana myself... I just don't see how they made #1. Martin "I do want to make Mega-bucks." Happy Rhodes (completely out of context :) ======================================================================== From: Steve Fagg Subject: Ecto SiG? We've given it away! Date: Wed, 12 Feb 92 8:56:49 BST Hi All, John Wheeler was the first to come through with the full purchase price for the spare Ecto SiG I had on offer. Appologies to anybody else who was too late. Special mention goes to Henry Kilmer who got his Email here first, but forgot to include his Snail Mail address. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-429531 Ext 2437 ESN-742-2437) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Subject: Partial Interview transcript Date: Wed, 12 Feb 92 4:11:15 CST Vickie here. This is what I posted in Love-Hounds, with my opening blatherings about how the interview was a nightmare for me deleted. There's more in the Ecto SiG than what I transcribed here, so if anyone feels up to doing the rest, be my guest. This will at least save someone some typing. -------------------------------------------------------------- Happy Rhodes interview January 1, 1989 On her start and influences: "I started recording professionally when I was 17 which would have been 5 years ago and I started writing music when I was 14. Started playing guitar when I was 11. I was influenced by a lot of classical, specifically...I liked Bach very, very much. Particularly Wendy Carlos. One of the first albums I was ever subjected to was when I was 9 years old and it was _Switched On Bach_ by the then Walter Carlos and I was very much influenced by that. Then came Queen, if you can believe that. I was very influenced by their harmonies. Moved on to Kate Bush. I wasn't introduced to Kate Bush until I was 16. Then Peter Gabriel, around the same time. Actually I was introduced to a lot of music much too late. I wish I'd gotten to hear a lot of it much earlier. I was very..oh gee, I was just very sheltered from a lot of good music right at the time in my life when I really needed to hear that stuff." On the making of Vols. I & II: "They were released in the same year but they were not recorded consecutively. Actually, Vol. I and Vol. II, it's the oldest material that I have released. It's just a compilation of all the things that I had been recording since I was 17. It didn't get released until I was oh..maybe 19, so a lot of the music is very old. It's also before I owned a synthisizer of my own. Most of it is a lot of just acoustic guitar. And I've stepped up a lot from there, in terms of instrumentation. I started using a drum machine and synthisizers and so on. So all I can say is that stuff is very different because it's a lot older." On doing everything herself: "Yeah, on all four of the albums. I did it all. It really wasn't by choice. In fact I had worked with Kevin at the time that I released Rearmament and Ecto but he was a solo artist, was doing his own thing so we didn't work together, I couldn't really depend on anybody, and God knows we didn't have money to pay studio musicians. If I had it wouldn't have made any difference because I can't read or write music so I wouldn't have been able to give them sheets of music to play in the studio. It wound up being the only way I could do it." About "Given In": "I'm sure everyone has noticed at this point that my music tends toward the dark side. But, now, this is the way that everybody else sees it, I don't necessarily see it that way. I see it more introspective than dark, definitely. I don't get depressed when I listen to my music, wheras some people do. Given In is a bit of a contrast because it's a very positive song. See, I have two themes that generally run through my music. One is, what seems to be depressing, introspective and another that seems to be loving yourself, that kind of thing. Given In falls under the Loving Your- self category. Every once in a while I'd bang out what I'm feeling, whether it's depression, self-pity...any emotion, I'd bang it out in a song, but if it does tend to run along the lines of depression, I will get to a certain point, as everybody does, where I have to sooth myself because nobody else can do that for me, and then _that_ comes out in a song. Given In is one of those songs. It's just a matter of telling myself...be strong...what you feel is what you feel...be true to yourself, that kind of thing." About "Noone Here": "I was driving home one morning, it was about 5 o'clock in the morning and the sun was rising. I felt particularly down...Nooo, really???...yes I felt particularly down at the time. It was so long ago that I don't remember why, but it doesn't matter. I felt very lonely and I didn't like that feeling. And also, I love cats, I adore cats, I have three now, and at that time I wasn't allowed to have cats. There seems to be a void in my life when that rule is placed on me. So I felt particularly lonely and I started writing this song about the lonely feelings I had and again I got to that point where I really had to do something about it for myself. This is a great song for me because it describes my sun rising still, even though there's no one here. It's a funny thing, I think every single human being has their own guardian angel but what you perceive as being your guardian angel is different for every individual. I see my guardian angel as being me, or an aspect of my personality, so in times of dire need, when I'm emotionally distraught, which is not that often, don't get me wrong, yuk yuk, I basically have learned to turn to myself because no one can console me or keep me company, as well as I can. That's not to say I shut other people out, but I think that pretty much runs true with everyone. So that's what that song's all about" About "To The Funnyfarm": We joke about making ashtrays..."Isn't that what they do in padded rooms these days? I don't know myself. (laughs) Yeah that was a fun song. No, actually, that song I wrote when I was very, very young. The reason I wrote that was because I was feeling...uh...my family had been supressing my creativity. Purposely, because, I don't know...it's rough. I'm an artist and I knew I was an artist when I was very young. Usually people will not delve into artistic ventures until they're older, until they're sure, after they've gone to college, this 'n' that. I never went to college. I didn't have to. I knew when I was 6 years old what I'd be doing. And this is very disarming for the parent, because their goals are for the child to go to college and become a secretary or a doctor or something of this kind. I wasn't following in those footsteps and so I was kind of making everybody involved a little uneasy. Therefore, growing up, I got a lot of pressure to....'music? yeah that's nice...it's a good hobby but, you know, do something more practical' and it made me feel like I was crazy because I was this emotional, moody person who liked to do nothing but write songs. I really didn't care much for friends or parties or anything like that, I just really liked music and I think everyone around me saw that as being just slightly strange. So I wrote "To the Funnyfarm" because I started seeing myself that way after a while." On her dark songs and being prolific: "I was more prolific when I was younger than I am now. I think it's a little strange but I think disaster and tragedy tend to attract people for some reason. When I was younger I found myself being more prolific when I focused on the tragedy of my life rather than the happiness in my life. That's why the songs come out sounding so dark and cynical. Now, there was as much good in my life as there was bad, but like I said, the good could not move me to write a song. The bad always could, so that's why I seemed to be so prolific then as opposed to now. I'm still prolific, but not so much so. Now I spread my creative energy out in all kinds of areas because my attitudes have changed slightly. I'm still the same person, I still feel those same things but at least I can come at them from a different perspective now." About "Ecto" (the song): "Ecto refers to something along the lines of an out-of-the-body experience. I don't want to mislead anybody because it's not something I've had the opportunity to experience yet, but one of my beliefs, we all have our own individual beliefs, so I don't impose this on anybody, but one of my personal beliefs is that my consiousness goes on and I think I just wanted to express that in a song, that no matter what happens it _really_ doesn't matter, 'cause my consiousness goes on and I may choose to stick around and I may choose not to stick around but I just had to reaffirm that in a song I guess. Also it's a little eerie sounding...I like eerie things" On "Fame & Fortune": I had asked her what her feelings were concerning Kansas City (getting lots of airplay on my show and selling tapes) and her plans for the future such as "making mega-bucks" & such (it was a joke!) "I feel great about what's happening in Kansas City because my immediate goal is to express myself. Obviously that's happened successfully. Everyone can interpret what I say in their own way, that is another one of my immediate goals. An ultimate goal, a long-term goal would be...yes, to be heard on many levels. I'd like to spread to the masses and Kansas City is an excellent start as far as I'm concerned. I do want to make "mega bucks" and for very specific reasons. There are a lot of things that I've wanted to do in my life that I cannot do unless I'm in the power to do them, unless I'm in some type of powerful position to do them. I'll clarify that. I want to give money away. I really, really want to do that. I'm not a philanthro- pist (sp?) or anything but I really want to support animal rights groups, I want to support Amnesty groups. All these things...I'm very touched by people reaching out. It's one of the things I want to do. Unfortunately, in today's society money seems to be the most immediate way of reaching out and helping. Now, I don't like that fact, I don't necessarily believe in that but that's the way it seems to be going these days. And if that's the case, fine, I'll play by that. Now, that's not the only reason I'm into music, obviously. Music is me, it's what I do. If I didn't make any money at it I'd still be doing it but it really is a good tool for me to be able to help on a large scale." -------------------------------------------------------------- "Suspended in Gaffa" KKFI 90.1fm Kansas City, MO ======================================================================== From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Subject: Happy Thanks YOU! Date: Wed, 12 Feb 92 4:22:11 CST Faxed from the Holy Ghost Herself... ------------------------------------------------------ To everyone at the FU_BLU_MA_LI, I've been very busy lately, and I regret the delay in telling you all how deeply touched I was, to receive the Happy Gift Project. I get an enormous sense of affirmation just knowing that I have the support of all of you. I liked all of the music that was submitted and the personal "hellos" were extraordinary. It was interesting to hear everyone's musical tastes as well. Though this "thank you" is brief, my heart is full. Thank you, Ectophiles, from the depths. I know I'll see some of you in Philly! VERY GREATFULLY YOURS! Happy ------------------------------------------------------ Handwritten at the end: "Sorry it's so short, Vickie. I really am pressed for time and brain-power these days." :-) ======================================================================== From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Subject: Review from The Music Independent Date: Wed, 12 Feb 92 4:33:55 CST ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Music Independent --------------------- HAPPY RHODES _Warpaint_ Aural Gratification --------------------- Happy Rhodes' _Warpaint_ is very close to my heart. So close that for a while I thought of keeping her for myself and not sharing her album with anyone else. It was love at first sight (or sound?). We have played her album so much at the MI, she has become a part of the family. Happy Rhodes' sensual, haunting voice stays with you long after you have turned off your stereo. It is an album with a vision, celestial; it feels as if time were suspended. And while her songs go straight to the heart, the lyrics are satisfying to the mind. The mood is rem- iniscent of the Cocteau Twins, though Happy Rhodes is in a genre of her own. It also appeals to a very broad audience: when my brother came to visit from France, he immediately wanted a copy. Since he would not settle for a tape--the production of this CD is so crisp and clear-- Neil (publisher and generous friend), gave him our only copy. Now we are stuck with a tape. So don't do what we did. Get a whole bunch of _Warpaints_ and keep a copy for yourself. When you hear something this good, you'll want to spread it around. Patrick Majua ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ======================================================================== From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Subject: Schenectady Gazette review Date: Wed, 12 Feb 92 4:42:35 CST ------------------- Schenectady Gazette June 20, 1991 ------------------- "WARPAINT" Happy Rhodes Aural Gratification AGCD 0017 Even if Rhodes and producer Kevin Bartlett no longer perform together, their recording partership continues to bear bracing musical fruit, in an astringently atmospheric Kate Bush direction. Rhodes' voice rebounds beautifully off Bartlett's carefully blended samples, the beat whomps, the synthesizers at once cleanse and illuminate. And the voice gets it just right--rolling in robust, register-jumping grace even over sections a little too precious for words, or singing. Michael Hochanadel ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)