Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #728 ecto, Number 728 Tuesday, 31 August 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Help! Scooped through my own inaction :-) The depopulation explosion? *1/2 for Bjork Finnish the Music RhodeSongs the usual RhodeSongs in the Bay Area Tribe Re: Warning, Stephen King talk Re: Tachyons revisted Weekend score Re: YES! They played it! Champagne Jam, 8/17/93 Champagne Jam, 8/24/93 Not Champagne Jam, 8/18/93 I'd like some catch-up with my plagiarism Re: Finnish the Music RhodeSongs Again ======================================================================== From: guetzlaf@gravity.cray.com (Cathy Guetzlaff) Subject: Help! Date: Mon, 30 Aug 93 12:01:44 CDT The collective knowledge of this list has always amazed and astounded me. Let's see if y'all can do it again! My very dear friend Larry is moving to Geneva, Switzerland the middle of September to work for a software consulting company there. He would really like to have access to the net so we can email each other instead of running up a phone bill. So, do any of you know how he can get access? The cost isn't really an issue as long as it's cheaper than calling. You can email me privately with any info you have since I'm not sure if this is of general interest to Ectophiles everywhere. Thanks! -- Cathy Guetzlaff Cray Research, Inc. guetzlaf@cray.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 93 13:57:14 CDT From: Manic Digressive Subject: Scooped through my own inaction :-) Alex said: > Vickie told me that no one here knew that Lisa Germano hosted >ABC In Concert. I guess I was just lucky to have caught it! Actually, I caught it too, and was meaning to say something in these pages, but it fell through the cracks. I may still be the first to mention that Maria McKee stepped into Lisa's shoes the following week, and also gave a good interview w/ video clips (and a good interview w/o video clips on NPR a few days later). I can't give you the same kind of detailed information that Alex did, however :-) :-('. WRT the thread from ecto's tennis education division: I recall reading some- where that "seeding" players means systematically placing the most prominent players in separate paths, as it were, when people are paired for the early rounds, so that their elimination of each other is postponed as long as possi- ble. Bob the Love Joy, not to be confused with the happily former Chicago nonecto secular deejay man Bubba the Love Sponge :-), boldly goes to the source of inside dope on _ST:TNG_ and beams the following to us: >This is because of their new >producers, Lor and Data(a.k.a "The Sons of Soong"; watch for their own album >soon to be released!). As fate would have it, in the real world Brent (Data) Spiner came out with an album of standards a couple of years ago, called _Ol' Yellow Eyes Is back_. Reportedly, it features backing vocals by Jonathan Frakes, Michael Dorn, Patrick Stewart and the gang. Keith says: >I'm glad that I read Ecto. All this time I thought that a tachyon was a >gluon that wasn't quite dry... > >A little physics humor there...well ok, very little. Reminds me of a typology which appeared at the bottom of a handout in my undergrad physics class: If it's green or it wiggles, it's BIOLOGY If it stinks, it's CHEMISTRY If it doesn't work, it's PHYSICS (Remember: It isn't original with me :-). ) WRT Dave Dixon's upcoming TV gig: may I suggest that all good VCR owners on this list rent _White Men Can't Jump_ to look for loopholes, to paraphrase W.C. Fields on his deathbed. In the very worst case, Weird Al Yankovic's "I Lost on Jeopardy" could be included in this year's Happy Year in Review Project :-) :-('. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 14:48:10 CDT From: Subject: The depopulation explosion? It has just dawned on me that depending on what Geoff does with the balance of his life--or more accurately, where he does it--St. John's may go down in the annals as the first city on this continent to become completely depopulated of ectophiles after having been a node on our network previously. Surely deserves a footnote as one of the more arcane sorts of urban change to be observable within our lifetimes :-). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 93 13:22:01 PDT From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: *1/2 for Bjork I was in the Bookstar this weekend and did a quick browse through some of the music mags. Rolling Stone gave Bjork 1.5 stars, claiming she was "too eclectic"!! Seems pretty ludicrous, eclecticism should be an automatic 3 stars. After all, they'll give three to something pretty bland. Alternative Press had a joint Heidi Berry/Jane Siberry review. They said Heidi was subtle, sublime and wonderful, and everything that Jane tried to be but failed. They thought Jane was too quirky and basically pretty worthless. So, next day I picked up Heidi Berry, Jane, The Waterboys' Room to Roam and Michael Hedges Taproot. I've only had a chance to listen to the HB, but I was pretty impressed. It warms on me slowly, but it'll probably be something I want to listen to for a long time. I was in another store looking for the book of Like Water For Chocolate to give as a gift. I had my copy in hand at the register when I noticed some garbage on the sides of the pages. I was trying to scrape it off when the clerk said he would just get me a new one. He whooshed off and got one for me, I bought it and left. Later, I was looking at it and noticed it was in Spanish. Actually it took me a day to figure out what happened, and I was wondering around thinking I was pretty inattentive to accidentally buy books in languages I can't understand. I'm going to give it as a gift anyway, just to see how long the recipient takes to figure out what it is. Neal ======================================================================== Date: 30 Aug 93 17:37:25 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Finnish the Music > By a strange coincidence, at this moment _All Things Considered_ is > running a piece on a band of Finnish women called "Vartana" (sp.?) > ("spindle"). Theirs is an unusual and interesting traditional > folk-oriented sound, reminiscent in some ways of the Voix Mystere &c. > from Bulgaria. By another coincidence I heard the same piece on NPR. The music sounded quite zippy. Now didn't someone (woj?) mention this group before? Anyways, they seemed to distinguish themselves from, say, the Bulgarians, by all singing in unison, sometimes quite quickly. Yet the melodies are interesting enough for the unison singing to be quite full and robust. I'm sure Vickie has heard of this group, no? -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 16:33:24 +22311732 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: RhodeSongs We are the first to receive this? We got ours in today's mail. I will still be bugging the local stores to get copies for friends, but as only one store just recently got _Equipoise_ and didn't actually have any in stock at the time we saw that they even knew of it, I ordered it directly from AG. The only thing is that Jim has asked me to wait to play it until he gets home. Only got another 1/2 hour to wait to hear "Summer." I can't wait! The cover is great and there are monsters inside. Hurry home, Jim! --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 93 20:02:23 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (patrick swayze's evil twin) Subject: the usual stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) sez: >Well, it would be if the lyrics weren't so deep. "Temple" is not >going to become a top-40 hit. (Just watch it happen to spite me >:-).) i dunno. nirvana's "smells like teen spirit" was just as understandable (though for different reasons) and look what happened to it! actually, the lyrics for said song are rather deep too, in a weird kind of way.... Neile Graham sez: >At the risk of starting an argument with Joe Zitt, who said "In a better >universe, her [Sinead's] second album would have been _Suspiria_.", I'm >going to disagree and say in a better universe her second album would have >been _Dry_ or _Rid Of Me_. i'll buck tradition completely and say that i actually liked sinead's second album. i still am in complete awe of "i am stretched on your grave" and aside from "nothing compares 2 u," it's not that bad of a follow-up album. instead of building on the laurels that _the lion and the cobra_ grew, she went in some unexpected and interesting directions. in a better universe, sinead's *third* album would have been otherwise. in another post, Neile Graham continues: >I think _I do not want what I have not got_ is uneven, especially as _The >Lion and the Cobra_ is so consistently powerful. no doubt that _i do not want..._ has its inconsistancies - i admit it above. i think they are the result of heading off into unknown territories rather than anything else. a couple minorly ectoish releases picked up today: zoe" (that's an umlaut on the e) - scarlet red and blue (polydor) - it was $2 and it was a whim. it's not terribly bad for what it is either: synthy pop with a woman singing. zoe"'s voice isn't all that bad, but nothing to write home about. there were some interesting bits in the music - sampled tablas and the like, but all in all, $2 is about the most i'd pay for this. unrest - perfect teeth (4ad/teen beat) - the latest american band to sign to 4ad (oh wait, earwig signed to 4ad after unrest). unrest is one of those dc guitar pop bands like tsunami (who are probably more ectoish than unrest seeing that they have the genius of jenny toomey singing and guitaring for them where unrest just has bridget cross playing some instrument) who are imminently likeable, unresistable and eventually disposable. bubblegum pop of the nineties which, however, in this case, is not a bad thing. i really liked the album, but it's going to take more listens for the music on it to differentiate from song to song...which is, unfortunately, one of the worst aspects of a lot of these guitar pop bands. the robert mappel- thorpe cover is keen though (cath carroll, if anyone is interested or knows about her). another $2 score, though this one is probably worth the $9 or so that it should go for in stores. +woj ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 93 17:27:31 PDT From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: RhodeSongs in the Bay Area According to the clerk at Rasputin's Records in Berkeley, RhodeSongs will be in the store on Wednesday. Well, I've listened to the Happy Birthday Project tapes a number of times, and all in all, I think they're marvelous. There are a few clunkers (which I won't name for diplomatic reasons), but there are several songs that are *fantastic* (namely "Unselfish" by Hewitt Huntwork, "Ever the Wind" by Bobo i.w.w.h., "Seinn O" by Mouth Music, and a few others). I got my sampler in the mail Friday, but it was defective. The guy who sent it said it was working fine when he shipped it, so I called the folks at UPS today. They're going to pick it up and "take it from there" (whatever that means). Waaaaahhh! I want my toys!! I did manage to play with it a little bit, though. I sampled Happy singing "I'm happy" from "Ashes to ashes" and did a semi-techno sequence with it. "I.. I.. I.. I,I, I... I'm happy!!" D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 93 19:55:11 PDT From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Tribe The local "modern rock" station, KITS (Live 105) just played "Red Rover" by Tribe on the air. It was part of the "New Music Challenge" feature, where the DJ plays two new songs and the listeners call in to vote. The other song was a Cranes song, which won. D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 23:57:12 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Warning, Stephen King talk Vickie Chicaganises: > V> > _The Stand_. Are you Stand fans ready for this? > > > > I don't think so, but... > > Yeah, I knew some of it would be a shock. I've had this list for months > and never got around to posting it before now. I'd be very interested to know what Steven King thinks of it... > > > Gary Sinise as Stu Redman > > Bland casting if ever there was some... > > Where do you know him from? "Of Mice And Men". The trailer for same kept saying "Gary Sinise, Gary Sinise" and "A film by Gary Sinise" and "Gary Sinise brings to life one of..." by the end of which the entire audience was collectively going, "WHO THE ZARQUON IS GARY SINISE???" :-) I saw the film. He wasn't worth the hype. John Malkovich blew him off the screen. But then again, his screen presence is such that half the Screen Actors' Guild could blow him off the screen. > > > Diane Lane as Julie Lawry > > That's more like it. As long as she stays away from the "KnightMoves" school > > of emotional overacting. > > I don't know "KnightMoves" but I loved her in "The Cotton Club." "Knightmoves" was more a problem in the script department than anything else, but her performance - opposite her husband, Christopher Lambert - was wooden, unconvincing, and downright silly. > > > Ruby Dee as Mother Abigail > > Oh for heaven's sake... > > ?? If I can't have Cicely Tyson's Miss Jane Pittman, Ruby Dee seems like > the next best choice. There's always Jessica Tandy.... :-) > > The book played out like a movie in my mind, so rich in imagery it was almost > > like a Clive Barker novel... :-) I don't know if I need it illustrated for > > me, particularly if the result is going to turn out like the truly awful TV > > production of "It". > > I know what you mean, and it's even harder to guess how it will turn out > since so many (uh, most) of the movies made from SK novels are trash. The problem seems to be that SK's books are so full of the characters' inner thoughts and emotional musings and decisions that it's impossible to transfer that to the screen. In the case of "It", the book was not filmable as-is for television. This is what worries me most about "The Stand". ABC may have a rep for taking chances, but how many chances can you take under a TV censorship policy that forbids a character to even say "shit"? I noticed this jarringly when I was watching Melrose Place (yes, yes, I know, I ummm errr was bored :-) and one of the characters said "I'm pissed off". I was quite startled. You just don't hear that in American TV productions! Ah, if only you could see the UK mini-series of Dennis Potter's "Lipstick On Your Collar" currently running in prime time here... :-) > (I wouldn't deny that some of the books themselves are trash too, but > *not* all of them!) Definitely not. Even some which made trash movies (Christine, for one) were terrific books. Incidentally, I wonder if they'll ever film "Gerald's Game"? And if so, how? :) (I hope I didn't offend any of our American listeners with that diatribe against US TV censorship. My views on British film censorship and the control the MPAA has over US studios are even stronger, if that's any help... :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 93 19:44:34 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: Tachyons revisted >DATE: Mon, 30 Aug 93 08:33:39 EDT >FROM: Keith Silver > >>Vickie phrased her reply in the form of a question: >> >>> How are you preparing for Jeopardy? (Besides reading Ecto, so you'll >>> know what "tachyons" mean :-)) > >I'm glad that I read Ecto. All this time I thought that a tachyon was a >gluon that wasn't quite dry... > >A little physics humor there...well ok, very little. > > ks AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dennis Parslow "I'm glad I not here over satellite, because Troy, NY 12180 that seems to really weird you out!" p00421@psilink.com Kate Bush (referring to Gary Numan) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 21:52:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Weekend score Hi! I acquired some new CDs over the weekend, both my mail and by shopping. The mail part first (thanks, Valerie, if you ever get back on ecto to read this!!!!): Bel Canto, _White Out Conditions_ This album is old hat in the ecto world, but I am SO HAPPY that Val found it in a record store in Anaheim and thought to pick up two... 10,000 Maniacs, _Cool White Stare_ A bootleg (whooo) of a performance from 1988, featuring a yummy picture of Natalie still in her crunchy phase on the cover. The recording is quite good, although it sounds like the batteries were running down (or maybe she had a cold and really was singing that low). The performance was excel lent, and Natalie had some pretty funny things to say in between songs. The rendition of "Scorpio Rising" really rocks, and "Planned Obsolescence" is there too, with slightly different lyrics (and misnamed "Blind Faith" on the cover). Now for the ones that cost me money (all this was a result of checking out local record stores for signs of RhodeSongs, without any luck. The Sam Goody downtown maintained it didn't come out as expected on Tuesday- anybody else got evidence to support this? Should I check for it tomorrow, then?): Tribe, _Sleeper_ I don't have to wait to hear woj's copy on the weekends or until I get to the radio station any more! Yay! _Heidi Berry_ I'd heard most of this album from playing it on my show, but still couldn't wait to have it for my own. Everything they say about it is true, folks. I might actually, in a fit of madness get anxious for fall to set in, so I can physically experience the mood the music puts into my psyche. Almost, but not quite. Knots And Crosses, _Curve Of The Earth_ I mentioned hearing these folks on World Cafe a month or so ago and being intrigued by them, not only because they're from Maine, but because they were really good on the show. woj and I went for a drive yesterday afternoon and ended up at a tiny Strawberries outlet in Bristol, Connecticut that actually had it, so I grabbed it- this is the new one, the one they were plugging on the show. It's different from what I was expecting- I realized it wasn't going to be all acoustic like it was on World Cafe, but I wasn't prepared for how almost country it sounds in spots. That's not a bad thing, though. The last song, "Under My Eyes" sounds like they want to be played in the middle of the night on a classic rock station, but that's just my first impression. This one will have to grow on me, but I have no doubts it will. (It's also *long*- 69 minutes! Wow.) Maine is getting a music scene. It still blows my mind! Meredith the Maine-iac meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 1:51:32 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: YES! They played it! > Hi Ecto. > > I finally got through to WCBR to request Feed the Fire during the 9:00 > all-request show and they actually played it! Yeah! Chip, which version are they playing? Album or acoustic? I've been trying all weekend and they haven't played it. At least now I know that they *do* have it so the DJ not being able to find it can't be an excuse. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 21:58:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Champagne Jam, 8/17/93 Hi! With apologies to recipients of the Digest, I'm going to spew three play- lists in your general direction at once, to get them all taken care of. Here's the first: CHAMPAGNE JAM 88.1FM, WESU-Middletown Wesleyan University Middletown, CT Tuesday, August 17, 1993 7PM - 9PM 10,000 MANIACS: "Every Day Is Like Sunday" (Candy Everybody Wants CD5) BJORK: "When Venus Was A Boy" (Debut) INGRID KARKLINS: "Es apkalu ozolinu/Oceans Apart" (A Darker Passion) TORI AMOS: "Silent All These Years" (Little Earthquakes) HAPPY RHODES: "Feed The Fire (Acoustic Tribute Version)" (HR5) HAPPY RHODES: "Lay Me Down" (Warpaint) SARAH MCLACHLAN: "Out Of The Shadows" (Touch) JANE SIBERRY: "Sail Across The Water" (When I Was A Boy) THE JULIANA HATFIELD THREE: "President Garfield" (Become What You Are) MARIA MCKEE: "My Lonely Sad Eyes" (You Gotta Sin To Get Saved) TRIBE: "Red Rover" (Sleeper) THE STORY: "At The Still Point" (The Angel In The House) THE STORY: "The Alarm Is On Love" (Grace In Gravity) HEIDI BERRY: "Distant Thunder" (Heidi Berry) HEIDI BERRY: "Washington Square" (Love) JOAN ARMATRADING: "Wrapped Around Her Finger" (Square The Circle) CHRISTINE LAVIN: "Shopping Cart Of Love: The Play" (Attainable Love) DAVID SYLVIAN AND ROBERT FRIPP: "Jean The Birdman" (The First Day) PRAGUE SPRING: "Another Wasted Afternoon" (A Garden of Kisses) KATE BUSH: "Love And Anger" (The Sensual World) THE INNOCENCE MISSION: "I Remember Me" (The Innocence Mission) THE MOON SEVEN TIMES: "Rise" (The Moon Seven Times) THE TELLING: "Blue Solitaire" (Blue Solitaire) HUGO LARGO: "Eureka" (Drum) KATE BUSH: "Deeper Understanding" (The Sensual World) I was feeling rather mellow that night, so I played rather mellow stuff. :) A note about the Prague Spring song: they are a duo from Metuchen, New Jersey on a little label from that area, and they're sort of like, um, well, Karen Peris crossed with Kate Bush for a female vocalist combined with an interesting-sounding male vocalist and mixed in with a generous portion of pure pretentiousness. I still like it, though. :) The song "Another Wasted Afternoon" was musically based on "Love And Anger", or so the liner notes claim, and I guess it kind of was. I played the song in question right afterwards to see for myself, and sure, if they say so. I like the effort, though! Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 22:05:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Champagne Jam, 8/24/93 Hi! This is it, I promise!!! CHAMPAGNE JAM 88.1FM, WESU-Middletown Wesleyan University Middletown, CT Tuesday, August 24, 1993 7-9PM 10,000 MANIACS: "The Painted Desert" (In My Tribe) BEL CANTO: "Blank Sheets" (White Out Conditions) THE CRANBERRIES: "Still Can't..." (Everybody Else Is blah blah blah) BJORK: "Venus As A Boy" (Debut) MOUTH MUSIC: "Seinn O!" (Mouth Music) ZAP MAMA: "Plekate" (Adventures in Afropea I) TORI AMOS: "Precious Things" (Little Earthquakes) TRIBE: "Red Rover" (Sleeper) LIZ PHAIR: "Help Me Mary" (Exile In Guyville) X: "Into The Light" (Hey Zeus!) LISA GERMANO: "You Make Me Want To Wear Dresses" (Happiness) HEIDI BERRY: "One-String Violin" (Heidi Berry) THE STORY: "Amelia" (The Angel In The House) SARAH MCLACHLAN: "Drawn To The Rhythm" (Solace) HAPPY RHODES: "Ashes To Ashes" (HR5) CLANNAD: "An tuill" (Fuaim) INGRID KARKLINS: "Ar vilcinu Riga braucu" (A Darker Passion) JANE SIBERRY: "All The Candles In The World" (When I Was A Boy) DAVID SYLVIAN AND ROBERT FRIPP: "God's Monkey" (The First Day) COCTEAU TWINS: "Carolyn's Fingers" (Blue Bell Knoll) COCTEAU TWINS: "Orange Appled" (12") TRIBE: "Supercollider" (Sleeper) THE JULIANA HATFIELD THREE: "Supermodel" (Become What You Are) AIMEE MANN: "Say Anything" (Whatever) ECSTASY OF ST. THERESA: "Alpha Centauri" (fluidtrance centauri EP) PRAGUE SPRING: "Over The River" (A Garden Of Kisses) THE SUNDAYS: "On Earth" (Blind) KATE BUSH: "Kashka From Baghdad" (Lionheart) Really good response from listeners tonight, which was fun. Not sure if I'm on tomorrow- I have no idea if we're on hiatus until the fall semester is in full swing up there, or not. Tune in to find out... Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 22:02:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Not Champagne Jam, 8/18/93 Hi! In which we fill in for WESU's most popular rap show and hope to survive the experience... ***NOT*** THE BOILER ROOM 88.1FM, WESU-Middletown Wesleyan University Middletown, CT Wednesday, August 18, 1993 7-9PM BJORK: "Human Behaviour" (Debut) TRIBE: "Miracle Of Sound" (Sleeper) LUSH: "Superblast!" (Superblast! CD5) CURVE: "Blindfold" (Pubic Fruit) BOOK OF LOVE: "Flower In My Hand" (Lovebubble) THE CRANBERRIES: "Still Can't..." (Everybody Else Is blah blah blah) CONCRETE BLONDE: "Still In Hollywood" (True) JANE SIBERRY: "All The Candles In The World" (When I Was A Boy) ECSTASY OF ST. THERESA: "Trance" (fluidtrance centauri EP) COCTEAU TWINS: "Wax And Wane" (The Pink Opaque) CRANES: "Sun And Sky" (Forever) ARSON GARDEN: "Lash" (Under Towers) LISA GERMANO: "Everyone's Victim" (Happiness) LUNACHICKS: "Jan Brady" (Babysitters On Acid) JUDY TENUTA: "The Pope Song" (Buy This, Pigs!) CICADA SINGS: "No Fun Intended" (Lousy Private Fuzz) THE BOBS: "Let Me Be Your Third World Country" (My, I'm Large) LIZ PHAIR: "Help Me Mary" (Exile In Guyville) DAVID SYLVIAN AND ROBERT FRIPP: "Jean The Birdman" (The First Day) SANDFIRE: "Love Slips Away" (Nu Music Sampler Series 4) JANE SIBERRY: "An Angel Stepped Down (and slowly looked around)" (When I Was A Boy) BJORK: "Big Time Sensuality" (Debut) HAPPY RHODES: "Runners" (Equipoise) KATE BUSH: "Wuthering Heights" (The Whole Story) It worked out well, actually- three people called to make intelligent requests and to ask when my normal time slot is, and only two irate fans of The Boiler Room called to ask me where the hell DJ Frankie-T was. A lot better of a ratio than I was expecting! Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 21:49:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: I'd like some catch-up with my plagiarism Hi! Time to play catch-up again... Vickie sez: }Needless to say, Sarah's a goddess. Natalie is too, though EDEN }is by far my least favorite album by 10kM, which I guess is }kaput :-(. Sad but true about the Maniacs' demise... }I hope Natalie continues to release albums, though if she really }is going to go back and finish college, good for her! (Actresses }have done it, Jodie Foster, Jennifer Beals, Brooke Shields, so }why not Natalie?) Don't forget Sara Gilbert (Darlene on Roseanne, what's-her-name in Poison Ivy, which is one of the more f*cked movies I've ever seen), who started orientation at Yale today. I hope I run into her around town sometime- she seems like she would either be a raving bitch or someone I could have a really cool conversation with. She'll probably lie pretty low, though. }I've never watched a tennis match in my life, but I've just seen }an interview with Monica Seles and I'm an instant fan. I wish I'd known that interview was going to be on. I've been a rabid fan of women's tennis for years now (no, I can't play the game to save my life, thank you very much), and I must say I've rabidly disliked Seles as long as I can remember her being on the tour, but I'm deeply sorry that that weirdo attacked her in Hamburg. I'm glad to hear she's taking it slow, yet doesn't intend to give up tennis because of it. As much as I can't stand her style of play, the tour has been the worse for her absence. }I was shocked to hear that her tennis-playing peers had voted to }take away her #1 altogether. I would have assumed she would be }"set aside" somehow until she could come back and defend her }title, or until she quit tennis, if that's what she was going to }do. Neile brilliantly explained how the ranking system works, so I won't go into it. The player's association vote does make sense in that context- while the incident has affected the entire tour psychologically, the tournaments are still going on, and if Steffi Graf wins enough matches to mathematically put her back on top in Seles' absence, then the top is where she belongs. If Seles manages to get herself back together within a year, it's possible she might be able to win back the #1 ranking in hardly any time at all, provided she's able to win the first tournament she plays in. I wouldn't put that past her, really. }I'm still not interested in tennis (perhaps watching Monica will }change that) Well, if you like to hear strange animal noises emitted from your TV screen when you're not watching a PBS documentary, then a Seles match will be pure heaven. ;) I prefer a Sabatini/Sanchez- Vicario showdown, myself. Power, finesse, and bizarre desperation shots. Is the US Open on USA television yet? :) In regards to Yngwe's queries: }> Cocteau Twins } }Treasure, Treasure, Treasure or Treasure. Or maybe Treasure. And if that fails, pick up Blue Bell Knoll and/or Head Over Heels. Hell, pick them up anyway! (Nobody ever mentions Head Over Heels. I didn't even know it existed until I stumbled across the domestic reissue in Strawberries last fall, and I *really* like it. It's not as "ethereal" as the other stuff, but it's still mighty good.) }> Concrete Blonde }Draw straws, ... and the straw you pick should automatically be for _True_. They're all good, but this one is by far the best. Not one bad song in the lot. Yum. }The most recent, just called Heidi Berry I picked this up over the weekend, along with a few other things to be gone into in a separate post, but here I will just command Yngwe to buy it as soon as possible. Again, yum. }> Rainbirds } }Two Faces Nope. _Call Me Easy, Say I'm Strong, Love Me My Way, It Ain't Wrong_, if _Rainbirds_ isn't available, or even if it is. This album starts off with a bang, gets admittedly sloppy in the middle, but gets it together and ends with a crash in the form of the three final songs, which are just wonderful: "Moon", "Jesus First!" and "Responsible". _Rainbirds_ has "Blueprint" on it, which would be worth the price of the whole CD right there, even if "Apparently", "No Greater Love" (as one of my Rainbirds-loving friends put it, "The prettiest song ever written about a hand job" ;) and "The Bird Up There" weren't on it. Geoff "soon to see the cool thing at O'Hare airport" Parks points out: }This is true. However, the delicacy which we Brits call a scone }(pronounced to rhyme with "on" or "own" depending on your }upbringing) is very similar to the US biscuit. The ingredients }are different but they do taste almost identical. No, scones are much denser and usually have things like currants in them, don't they? I *love* scones, and would move to England just to get them if they weren't occasionally available over here nowadays, but they're not really like biscuits, although they do taste somewhat alike, depending on what you put in/on them. Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== From: jk101920@ee.tut.fi (Kannisto Juha) Subject: Re: Finnish the Music Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 10:48:39 EET DST > > By a strange coincidence, at this moment _All Things Considered_ is > > running a piece on a band of Finnish women called "Vartana" (sp.?) > > ("spindle"). Theirs is an unusual and interesting traditional > > folk-oriented sound, reminiscent in some ways of the Voix Mystere &c. > > from Bulgaria. > > By another coincidence I heard the same piece on NPR. The music > sounded quite zippy. Now didn't someone (woj?) mention this > group before? Anyways, they seemed to distinguish themselves > from, say, the Bulgarians, by all singing in unison, sometimes > quite quickly. Yet the melodies are interesting enough for the > unison singing to be quite full and robust. I'm sure Vickie has > heard of this group, no? > -mjm > The group is called V{rttin{ (V"arttin"a) and they became very popular here in Finland around '91 with the release of 'Oi Dai' the album. This year they released a follow up to that one called 'Seleniko', but the mainstream audience ceased to embrace them to the extent they were used to. I haven't heard much material from the new album, but I have 'Oi Dai' on tape :) I like them though :) They're not a group of women alone, there are male players too, but all the vocals are female. Vickie, it was my turn to feel warm and fuzzy when I read about your family history (family of Juhas :) and the marriage-to-be :) But then you went on and broke the illusion! Me and my shattered heart, alone in the cold again. Yes, I have my arms to wrap around me still. And I smile in the dark. :) But now, I have to fly! Has anyone got RhodeSongs yet? Have a happy day! Juha -- Juha Kannisto O jk101920@cc.tut.fi O I have a friend in Phobos O Savikukonkatu 21 O jk101920@ee.tut.fi O At times I think I'm almost there O 33530 Tampere O jk101920@cs.tut.fi O * Happy Rhodes * O Finland O +358-31-560941 O ~~~~~~~~~~~~ O ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 00:45:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: RhodeSongs Again Yes, "Summer" is beautiful. Really. One of the loveliest of Happy's songs. My only complaint is that it's just barely 3 minutes long. The overall feel of the collection is really nice, too. I wasn't looking forward all that much to the Happy-lite concept, but of course she's much better than that, and _RhodeSongs_ is a wonderful collection with a personality all its own. I didn't expect to think that, as I'm the kind of person who usually thinks of songs in the original context I heard them in, and would usually rather play individual discs rather than compilations or greatest hits, but this really works. Now I just hope it gets into the stores, because I can think of a bunch of people I want to buy it for. I hope this disc does as much for Happy's career as it should. I'm a quickly recovering skeptic about this project. It's got a magic all its own. --Neile neile@u.washington.edu P.S. It wasn't the Neile Neal who explained about tennis seeding. ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)