Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #721 ecto, Number 721 Thursday, 26 August 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* This and that: four things really.... ooivletce!! Tape dubbing status Vickie klauses again(1) Momus Re: tachyons, Once and for All... Chicago again Re: Neile-Speak I before E Fairport Convention Centre Hello from Holland Re: Momus ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 07:34:11 -0700 From: jmg@rocket.com (Jim Gurley) Subject: This and that: four things really.... 1) Re: the "Happy" song isms: Did anybody mention the Happy Worker (Tori What's-her-name)? 2) This from Neile Graham: Her misreading of an old band name: Ecto and the Bunnymen. 3) The new Stereolab album is out, "Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements"...and while it isn't Goddess material, it's fantastic...the female vocalist is wonderful, and nobody else uses the Moog synthesizer or the farisfa the way they do... Phillip Glass meets the Sonics, with a dash of Baudelaire.... 4) Bob Neveldine told us over the weekend that he saw a profile of Jane Siberry on (of all places) CNN...and she said during the profile that her record company had refused to make videos for WIWAB because they didn't have any faith in it. So Jane went ahead and made them herself! I wonder if there's any chance for a video compilation of Siberry videos...she's done some wondeful ones in the past and I'm sure these new ones are great. Jim "She was a winner who became the doggie's dinner" --Nick Lowe ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 23:38:51 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: ooivletce!! Siht sitl si os nrtngieetis nad fedulwnor!! !!Lal uyo vleo i Eivcik ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 22:20:01 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Tape dubbing status Greetings, Judging from some posts and personal e-mail, my records and reality may not be in sync for the recent tape dubbing stuff. Before I get into the details, I should mention one problem currently slowing my dubbing much more than usual is that I've run out of my default cheap tapes, and my order for a new batch was back-ordered, but should arrive Real Soon Now. *sigh* Anyway, here is my opinion of what reality should be: HBP contributors who are known to have their copies of the HBP: Mitch Pravatiner David Dixon Steve Fagg HBP contributors who should have their copies of the HBP: Beth Perry (c/o Jeff Burka) Jane Zakrzewski Albert Philipsen Klaus und Claudia Jeff Burka Mike Mendelson HBP contributors whose orders are still unfulfilled by me: Jens Brage Uli Grepel (should go into the mail Saturday) Bob Lovejoy Dirk Kastens Joe Zitt HBP contributors from whom I have yet to hear: Angelos Kyrlidis * Martin Handley Alan Moorse Sammy Tao * Ken Descoteaux * Kjetil T. Homme * You have tape dubbing accounts with sufficient funds. HBP non-contributors who are known to have their copies: Happy Rhodes HBP non-contributors who should have their copies: Neal Copperman Vickie Mapes HBP non-contributors whose orders are still unfulfilled by me: Michael Peskura Other recent tape dubbing orders, which should be in your hands: Brian Bloom People who have said they might order, but from whom I haven't heard: Troy Shadbolt Cathy Guetzlaff If anyone whose name is on this list finds that their reality differs from mine, please let me know. I'll try to adjust reality from my end. I apologize for any problems/mixups. Thanks! By the way, an _Equipoise_ was spotted in the Sound Warehouse in Fort Collins (filed under 'H', of course). I'm still recovering from the shock. Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 22:38:40 PDT From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Re: ooivletce!! Vickie expostulated: > From vickie@pilot.njin.net Wed Aug 25 20:46:16 1993 > Received: from ns1.rutgers.edu by physics.Berkeley.EDU (4.1/1.31) > id AA24452; Wed, 25 Aug 93 20:46:15 PDT > Received: from pilot.njin.net by ns1.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) > id AA26536; Wed, 25 Aug 93 23:38:53 EDT > Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) > id AA27278; Wed, 25 Aug 93 23:38:52 EDT > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 23:38:51 EDT > From: WretchAwry > To: ecto.;@pilot.njin.net > Loves: Kate Bush..Happy Rhodes..Jane Siberry..Peter Gabriel..Tori Amos.. > Subject: ooivletce!! > Message-Id: > Status: R > > Siht sitl si os nrtngieetis nad fedulwnor!! > > !!Lal uyo vleo i > > Eivcik > Somebody adjust Ms. Vickie's rabbit ears, she's getting all staticky. :) Hmm.. let's see if I can come up with a suitable anagram for Vickie Mapes... Hmm........... how about MA, PICK SIEVE? or I SEE VAMP. ICK! DEAD IN VOX ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 2:46:55 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Vickie klauses again(1) > ======================================================================== Albert (who I can't imagine as either an Al or a Bert) corrects speleng: > >Some info for woy: KLM stands for Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij, > ^^^ > I meant woj, of course. Sorry... I just thought that that was the Dutch spelling. I like it! > ======================================================================== > From: Larry Nathanson > Subject: I'm (sorta) back... Welcome back & bye! ("Keep in touch keep in touch keep in touch") > ======================================================================== Juha ("Mr. Hei") Kannisto heis: > Some people were looking for the lyrics for Debut the other day - Ja, I got 'em (thanks He Who Likes Catalina Caper). I haven't yet sent them to Quenby because he was going somewhere and I didn't want to overload his mail file. > And now off to sleep... 'Never cry for the rain > It brings us soothing sounds to sleep by' -HR > > I love this song! And always will. It isn't raining though. But it has > been, oh yes, it has. Me too! "That's what your arms are for, to wrap them around yourself" This song inspires me. "Ode" is a very special song, oh yes, indeed. If songs were tactile (and many are) this song would be like climbing into a pool full of cotton balls. (That sounds silly, I know, but... hmmm, yeah, that's how it feels to me) > Nighty night, Juha Wow! I thought my mom and I were the only people in the universe who said that...how wonderful! > ======================================================================== Michael ("nominated by Vickie as the nicest guy on Earth") Peskura says: > Are we Vickie's sycophants ...? Nah, i think it more likely we are > Vickie's acolytes! "servile flatterers" vs "alter boys/attendants"? (I grew up in the Lutheran church and I wanted to be an acolyte *so* bad, but only boys were allowed. That's why I'm an athiest :-). Maybe they're more enlightened now.) Vickie's Votaries? (Rah! Rah! Rah!) :-) You're definitely my supporters and cohorts. And I thank you. > What a great image that was: Vickie 'n' Chris coaxing the poor little > talking dictionary into saying 'naughty' things!! :) :-) > ======================================================================== Woy wojes: > i finally ordered and received big hat's _inamorata_ cd. i'm glad i waited > so long as the release i got has four extra tracks: "like we liked to do," > "throwing the olden," "(i'm so) happy," (another candidate for the happy > music tape) and "things go around." these later songs are taken from the > _hathead_ cassette (which i may or may not have a copy of - i can't recall > if the tape that woody dumas sent me was a pre-release of _shimmer_ or the > _hathead_ release itself). they also threw in a few goodies for me too: a > backstage pass from 1991 (the picture on it is hilarious: they are all > sitting in a pickup with their legs hanging over the edge of the back > strategically blocking letters in "daihatsu" so as to spell "da hats"), a > few pictures of the band and one of those funky eye thingies that is either > open or closed depending on the light reflecting off it. wheee! Lucky guy! They never send me cool stuff like that . My _Inamorata_ has those extra tracks too, and those extra songs are the rest of _Hathead_ (the bulk are on _Shimmer_). I would *strongly* urge anyone (Neile, listen up) who is going to order something from Big Hat to get _Shimmer_ first, instead of _Inamorata_. Shimmer is glorious, Inamorata is patchy, with those 4 songs (IMHO) being the only ones worth having from that CD. Besides, as woy and I are in complete agreement about, Shimmer has the song "Garden of Edith" which no Ethereal-loving Ectophile should be without. > second dan dixon's recommendation for _negativelandconcert_. the recording > is a bit bassy, but it's crystal clear and it supports a good cause. if > you're interested in getting a copy, drop whatis@gnu.ai.mit.edu a line > and ask about it. ^^^^^^ Sounds like a good contact for David, to bone up for his Jeopardy gig :-) > ======================================================================== MJM mjms: > It's particularly ironic > that after getting used to Getty Lee's voice over > all these years that here I hear a female who sounds like > him and I assume she is a he, when all along he is the one > who sounded like a she. This often has happened to me > in reverse. For e.g. the Logical Song (Supertramp) I always > assumed was a female singing. Anyone care to offer other > cases of mistaken identity (I'm sure there are some funny > gender benders out there). Yup, Riz! I played him on my show thinking he was a woman with a low (Nico, Marianne Faithful-like) voice. It's the only time I've done that, though (before SiG was on the air) I used to think that Jemar Tayle was a woman. (He, along with Caroline Crawley, are Shelleyan Orphan). I've played Klaus Nomi on my show (but I knew in advance that he was a guy, I just wanted to see if my listeners were awake ;-). Nomi has a very very operatic soprano voice). > ======================================================================== Neal Of The Austrailian-Confounding Shower writes: > Went and saw Iris DeMent last night at the Belly Up. I was pretty > disappointed. She's responsible for the song "Let the Mystery Be" on the > latest 10k Maniacs single, which I haven't heard. That song was the highlight > of the last Maniacs concert as far as I was concerned. ID was a little bit > country, and then a lot more country after that. She opened with "Mystery" > and I didn't like it much at all. :-( Too bad. I've never seen her live (I missed my chance, because she lives in Kansas City and I didn't know about her until we'd moved to Chicago) but "Mystery" is my favorite, absolute favorite, song on her album. > Jules Keller (I think) who sounded like a cross between Mary-Margerat O'Hara, > Maria McKee, Heidi (not Heidi Berri, just Heidi) and some wild beast, all > of whom really had to go to the bathroom. Her first song contained some > pretty incredible yodeling, and the rest of her songs had the breathy broken > delivery of MMO'H, but without repeated words and phrases. The way she > jumped and twitched through her set almost made me head for the bathroom > though. :-). She sounds *really* interesting! > Vickie, your CD-ROM sounds great. SOme friends of mine have one and > we recently finished working our way through a hilarious game called "Day of > the Tentacle". I gather there are many different formats, so maybe you > couldn't use it anyway. It was probably almost as fun as talking to the > dictionary. If you keep clicking on the words that it is going to speak, > can you make it rap and stutter. s-s-s-s-sy-syc-syc-syc-sycophant. :-) :-) We found that out. cl-cl-cli > ======================================================================== > Bob the lost and found Do you have that cool pen that writes in 5 different colors that I lost in 7th grade? I loved that pen, even though it had run out of purple ink. I don't know what happened to it :-( (must've been those pesky Inky Bloaters) > ======================================================================== Chip (who, along with Jessica, is responsible for me being here now) sez: > I remember reading a bit on thunderstorms in here recently, and was it > Vickie who said that she hadn't seen a good one since she moved to > Chicago? I would say the storm that ripped through here yesterday > was notable, wasn't it?! GEEZ YES!! I was out in it! The weather was beautiful when I got off work and I went to see my therapist for our normal Monday night session. It was a bad/sad one, partially because she's leaving and it was our next-to-last session (now I'm on a waiting list and when someone is available I have to start again from scratch with them) and I was *very* upset by the time the session was over. When I came out of the elevator and looked outside, the weather had changed dramatically! Thunder, lightning, rain squalls, wind...yikes! It fit my mood perfectly! (See Cathy, it wasn't you!) Ten seconds outside and I decided that I didn't particularly want to walk to the bus stop and wait for a bus, so I went back in and called a cab. When the dispatcher asked me for the address, I said i didn't know but that I would ask the receptionist, then that I was at the BlahBlah Mental Health Center at... She hung up on me!! Argh! I guess she thought I was an inpatient just screwing around. I wasn't going to use 30 cents to call her back, so I went ahead and walked...if you can call it that, since I was fighting the wind, the rain, my bags, my purse and my poor little umbrella...lurched...to the bus stop. I was at the bus stop (hadta be one with no shelter too) during the most intense part of the storm and believe me, I saw enough lightning bolts to last me for 10 years. It was cool for a minute, but they were *close* and it got very scary very quickly. I waited 5 minutes (no buses, no cabs in sight) before freaking out and going into a restaurant for shelter. I ate dinner and by the time I finished the storm (the main part of it anyway) had moved on. (This was my "It was a dark and stormy night..." story) Cathy, I hope you do come back to Chicago and we can get together sometime. > ======================================================================== Mitch mitches wonderfully, as always: > Which inspires me to propose we split the difference like so: Simply anoint > Meredith as ecto-goddess-deejay-lady-northeast, Kiri as ecto-goddess-deejay- > lady-south, Vickie as ecto-goddess-deejay-lady-midwest, and hang loose on the > ecto-goddess-deejay-lady-west. Yeah! I like it! (Soon, perhaps, a lady deejay from Las Vegas will join Ecto and she'll take the "west" spot) > Vickie vouchsafed the following additional observation: > >LisaSusanLisaSusanLisaSusanLisaSusanLisaSusanLisaSusanLisaSusanLisaSusan > > Don't get one without the other! > Last week I got Lisa, but not Susan. Do I now get turned into a pillar of > salt, or what? Yes, celery salt! > Vickie went on to recount Troy's observation: > > PS: does anyone else think that Vickie should just sit around and tell > > stories in front of a fire from now on? :-) > > Better she should just sit around and tell stories on this mailing list :-). > With all the heat and humidity we've been having this week, fires tend to get > a little uncomfortable after awhile. How about a kerosene lamp? Or a whole pile of those necklace thingies that glow in the dark when you break the chemical whatchimacallit inside? (Does anyone know what I'm talking about?) That reminds me that I forgot an extremely important ingredient for s'mores. Chocolate! (Put chocolate bar bits on graham crackers, jab a couple of marshmellows on the end of a stick, hold them over the fire until they're melting, then put them on the chocolate bits and top the mess with another graham cracker. Messy, but divine!) I just realized...we *have* to have a fire, because the marshmellows won't melt when held over kerosene lamps or glow-in-the-dark whatchimas. With a fire, we can also have popcorn popped in wire mesh dealies, and fire pies, if we can find some fire pie makers. (Picture two long metal handles, joined at one end. At the joined end are two round cast iron half-shells, each shell about 5 inches across. When the handles are closed, the shells fit together perfectly and it's hollow inside. You open the handles, and take an uncooked biscuit-Americans-and stretch it and flatten it just enough to fit inside one side of the shell, then take another biscuit and do the other side. Then take any pie filling, apple, cherry, blueberry, whatever, and fill in one side of the biscuit. When you close the handles, the shells will fit together and form a pie. The ends of the metal handle are wooden so heat is not conducted to your hands. You hold the shell over the campfire, keep turning it so the pie doesn't burn, and after a while (I forget how long it takes for the biscuits to cook) you open the handles over a plate and if everything worked out alright a pie will plop out. They're delicious! (Can you tell...? I used to go camping a *lot* when I was a kid, which reminds me...there's a wonderful Christine Lavin song about camping. It's about how she hates to go camping and her boyfriend loves to go camping and....wait....hold on.......) Camping Oh I'm in love with a man who loves to camp he camps when it's sunny, he camps when it's damp All he needs is a tent, a sleeping roll a pack of Jahotas [not sure about that word, can't make it out] and a sack of charcoal he camps in the desert, he camps in the snow he says "Baby come with me" I say "no" You see, I like hot showers and I like ice, the cool cotton sheets on my bed feel so nice I'm afraid of little animals and scared of big bites I like the feel of bare feet on a bare Bear rug I can't stand Port-O-Sans or community soap I say "Baby stay with me" he says "no" So I say "Why deprive yourself of the creature comforts it's taken man so long to invent?" And he said something about Walden, throwing back to Woodstock, livin' his life in a tent and then he went "ooooooooooooooooh" Oh I can picture him now by a babbling brook, slappin' at mosquitos, slippin' bait on a hook I can see the bears sniffin' round for something to steal Oh bears, get the hot dogs, don't make my baby your meal This whole scenerio it give me such a fright, to think, he could have stayed with me tonight Well my air-conditioner makes a real cool breeze not unlike the wind, whistlin' through the trees I got stars on my ceiling (glow in the dark!) I'll open up the windows, we can hear the birds in the park I'll put "Wild Kingdom" on my TV This might not be camping but it's pretty close honey, I'm not as primitive as you want me to be This might not be camping but it's close enough for me! ----------------------- :-) Mitch still mitching: > Should the task get too big for any one individual, I'd be quite willing to > assume responsibility for the south side division of the Ecto Griot Society, > leaving Vickie with only the north side division to worry about. Yup. Yup yup. Subject: Momus Has anyone here ever heard this guy?? A friend of ours, an ecto lurker, made us a dub of two discs he got when he was back east earlier this month (Bob, are you reading me?), _Circus Maximus_ and _Don't Stop The Night_. We put it on tonight, and the first thing I thought of what that Nick Drake lives. I couldn't believe how much Momus' voice and guitar work and the overall feel of _Circus Maximus_ at least, is as though Nick Drake survived to live a little longer, cheer up a *little* bit (and on _CM_ at least fixate on the bible). It's wonderful, creative, literate. Bob called him the British Happy Rhodes, in the sense that a lot of his background on _Don't Stop The Night_ is electronic and his lyrics are kind of dark and powerful. So what else can anyone tell me? Does anyone else here know of him? --Neile neile@u.washington.edu P.S. Vickie, I always listen to you. You're the magic ecto-Ma! P.P.S. Yes, I second the nomination of Michael Peskura as the nicest guy on earth. It makes me feel better about the world knowing he's in it. (*Ha!* Go ahead and blush, Michael, it's TRUE! Kindness is a rare and wonderful gift and you've got it.) ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 09:14:28 BST Subject: Re: Momus Guess who's got all his CDs!! I don't know a whole lot about him. I forget his real name (it's Nick something or other) and he's Scottish. His last album had a very Pet Shop Boys feel to it. I could upload a discography if anyone is interested. ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 20:23:53 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Cc: Bcc: Subject: Re: lexicon In-Reply-To: <9308241608.AA02448@snight.lsi.ny.jpmorgan.com>; (apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes) Reply-To: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Organization: Disorganized... In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <9308241608.AA02448@snight.lsi.ny.jpmorgan.com>, you wrote: > Some of the more novel ones are: > > USA UK OZ > > Adhesive tape Sellotape Durex I've lived here all my life and I've never heard anyone refer to it as Durex! We call the stuff "sticky tape" here. :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Subject: Re: tachyons, Once and for All... Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 08:21:13 -0400 From: "Dr. Dan" robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Bob the quite mad) writes: >Tachyons, simply stated, are things used a lot in Star Trek I'm certainly not going to argue the point with someone from DeepSpace! >Actually, that is a bit simplistic. Tachyons were invented in 1957 by General >Foods. They were to be a breakthrough in breakfast cereals. However, >it was quickly discovered that boxes of Tachyons would simply disappear >after a short time, and I mean literally disappear. Not the kind of >inventory a major food manufacturer wamts! Now, if they could get them to disappear only after someone bought them, they'd have something (and the poor consumer would have nothing). Can't you just see it: June Cleaver buys a box of tachyons, brings it home, drops it in the cereal drawer. Next day, all the tachyons are gone! "Hmm, Beaver must really love this stuff--must buy more tachyons." [ya know, I have a hard enough time following ecto reading forward. Meredith must sometimes wonder if she's reading the right list...] -- Dan Riley Internet: dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu Wilson Lab, Cornell University HEPNET/SPAN: lns598::dsr (44630::dsr) "Maybe, leastways is the best way of all" -Caterwaul ======================================================================== From: guetzlaf@gravity.cray.com (Cathy Guetzlaff) Subject: Chicago again Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 9:21:18 CDT I must say I'm relieved that the Chicagoans on the list aren't holding me responsible for Monday's bad weather so maybe I will come back and visit that fair city again. I'll give everyone ample warning though so if you have outdoor plans for when I'll be there you can have an alternate indoor plan. Just in case. :-) I should explain that the reason I feel responsible for the bad weather has to do with our cabin in Wisconsin. Seems that after we bought it whenever we'd visit there it would rain. It got so bad that friends who lived full time in the area would call and ask us to come up for the weekend because they needed rain. I guess I'm still a little paranoid... Actually, maybe it's vanity that has me convinced *I'm* the one thunderstorms follow. Either that or I'm the female version of Joe Bltsflk (or however he spells it...). ObHappy: KCFE in Mpls isn't playing 'Ashes To Ashes', they're playing 'Save Our Souls'. And a couple weeks ago I heard 'Waking Up' on KTCZ. I should probably call KTCZ and request something from HR^5. -- Cathy Guetzlaff Cray Research, Inc. guetzlaf@cray.com ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 07:38:53 -0700 From: jmg@rocket.com (Jim Gurley) Subject: Re: Neile-Speak Mr. Blakemore and anyone else interested.... I actually own the copyright on the Neile-Speak program. It was developed over ten long years of trial and error and represents the latest in digitial poetic text translation. There are still a few bugs in the program but my researchers (Maddy and Zach) and I are hard at work correcting them for your listening and understanding pleasure. We hope to have Neile-Speak System 7 available for use in both Mac and PC format for Xmas. IT will make an excellent present for all you ecto and the bunnymen. Any remaining bugs you find while using the program please feel free to contact us. ======================================================================== Date: 26 Aug 93 12:14:42 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: I before E What do Liege and Lief mean anyways? -mjm ======================================================================== Date: 26 Aug 93 12:14:25 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Fairport Convention Centre _Best of Sandy Denny_, available from Ryko/Hannibal, has most of the essential tracks. _Leige and Lief_ from Fairport Convention is the second one you should get, and then for the third you'll be addicted and buy the box set. ---> Is Richard Thompson in this Fairport Convention? I know he was ---> in it for a long time but also hasn't been for a while. I am a big RT fan, ---> but based strictly on his solo and Linda stuff. I don't know much about ---> FC except I know he was in it. Thanks for your help. ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: Hello from Holland Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 02:20:32 +1000 (EST) Greetings to ectophiles one and all, This message is currently being written courtesy of Albert in Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam. A nice place :). Hopefully the next time I write will be from a Dutch account, as that will bemuch easier since the people with whom I board have a PC and a modem (yay!). Firstly, thanks to woj for his thorough account of the events of Saturday the 22nd August. Some things have become apparent since the event, and that the date of my arrival in Newark was Friday the 13th. Hmmm. Now most will probably be aware of the events that occurred that day, but the event which was to plague me a week later, namely the absence of a ticket slip for my trip from JFK to Schiphol, can be traced back to the rather incompetent actions of somebody on that same day. Well, all I can say is that I am glad that Lady Luck decided upon that course of action for her viewing pleasure than others that could have been :). Actually there was only that thing that I realised ... Anyway, I just saw (via Albert's Mac) a picture of Happy's Kite (courtesy of Jeff) ... It's great!! I'm not surprised that she's as happy with it as she is !! I wish I had one like that. Perhaps Jeff should set up a mail order service :). Re all the comments about Sinead O'Connor, I for one like her a lot, and her actions of SNL were blown out of proportion by people with more desire to maintain control on a community that is largely allowing itself to be under that control, that for a genuine desire to create or encourage a loving, honest, open society where people can say what they like without fear of retribution. She tore up a picture of the pope because she wanted to tell people that she didn't like many o the things that the pope is doing. And for the most part I agree with her. Unfortunately people don't think, for the most part and have appeared to miss this fact. There. Off my soap box now. For the record, I was baptised and raised as a good Catholic boy, and can relate to some of the things Sinead says. On a lighter note, I would like to heartily lend weight to the feeling of success with the Ecto Hostel system. For me it was the best part of the entire trip, and I would like to thank: Jeanne Schreiter and Tom, Neal Copperman and Brinee, Vickie'n'Chris and Chip. Christine and her friend in Long Island and her housemates. Greg and Jessica and Woj and Meredith. Bob and Wanda and Stephen and Richard and 'the puppy' :) Brni and Anthony K. without whom my enjoyment of the stay would have been much less!! Philly has some nice stories associated with it, thanks to Brni and Anthony, which I will share at a later date. I plan to make a proper account of my travels, but when I have my proper account, I think. Since arriving in Leiden I have had a great time. I've bought myself a groovy little Panasonic Boom Box with two cassette players, shortwave and a Line In set of jacks for my CD player. It's fantastic! I've also bought myself a lot of Oil Painting equipment, and have completed one work of art already (that of an interesting OrangUtan from San Diego zoo who posed nicely for me :) ), and will make many more. It's mainly for a painting of my brother I want to do for his 21st next January. THere's much more I'd like to say, but I must go. I will write again from my new account hopefully !! Till then! Chris. P.S. Hi Vickie. I got your message from ecto as well as Albert so I was doubly happy :) -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 13:59:48 EDT From: justin@campion.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: Re: Momus Nick Currie. (I rather like the Tender Pervert album.) justin ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)