Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #718 ecto, Number 718 Wednesday, 25 August 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* A klaus from Vickie (pt 1) A klaus from Vickie (pt 2) Ectophiles Guide Report #1 Ectophiles Guide Report #2 Ectophiles Guide Report #3 Ectophiles Guide Report #4 ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 24 Aug 93 23:25:01 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: A klaus from Vickie (pt 1) Anthony, our lone Melbournophile now, gushes: > Just a couple of points of Ecto-interest... > 3. Heidi Berry. Heidi Berry. God, I love each and every one of you on this > list. Honestly. We love you too Anthony! > Heidi Berry. This album is simply *wonderful*. Very English, as Vickie > pointed out, and very, very beautiful. Mmmmmmmm yes! I'm so glad you found it and like it so much. > Sorry for rambling, everyone, I felt like a bit of an information purge, > and I know you're good listeners! :-) Don't apologise (that's my territory, even though I *know* I don't have to) because, yes, Ectophiles are very good listeners. I *still* haven't seen either of the Bjork videos :-(. I hope she does enough to release a video compilation. (Then again, The Sugarcubes don't even have one...that I know about). Maybe it's a good thing that I haven't been keeping up with MTV or other video shows, because I also haven't seen (or heard at all) the Willie/Sinead thing. Just the concept makes me cringe. I *like* Sinead, it's just that I can't imagine that combination, singing that song. I'd better make sure I have the Peter/Kate version close at hand, just in case I accidentally hear/see the Willie/Sinead version. I'll need a strong does of reality. > ======================================================================== Dave, who's super (though he's not quite sure) wants to know: > Who is this Victoria Williams person? I went to my local CD Superstore and > they didn't have her listed on their computer. How many albums does she have > out, and would a KaTe and Tori fan like myself like her music? Also, are these > albums imports or just obscure? Victoria is a singer/songwriter/musician from Louisiana, now living in Los Angeles. She has 2 albums, and both are pretty obscure. You might have some luck scouring the used/cut out bins for the CD of "Swing the Statue" (her second album, which was released on Rough Trade) and either the LP or cassette of her first album "Happy Come Home" (which was never released on CD) which is on Geffen Records. Mammoth Records have the rights to both albums but have no plans at the moment to re-release them (though woj disagrees with that. Whatever, I just want them out and available. I *especially* want "Happy Come Home" on CD, because it's my favorite of the two.) Last year, Victoria was diagnosed as having multiple sclerosis, and lots of her musician friends got together in Los Angeles and New York and put on benefit concerts to help her with her medical expenses, since, like most non-superstar musicians, she has no medical insurance. These concerts led to the creation of an album called "Sweet Relief" featuring all kinds of musicians covering Victoria's songs. Pearl Jam, Maria McKee, Michelle Shocked, Lou Reed, Lucinda Williams and many others donated their time and talent for the project. The proceeds from the album will go to continue to help Victoria, and to set up the Sweet Relief Musician's Trust Fund, to help other musicans without medical insurance who get sick or have an accident. Victoria is *nothing* like Kate/Happy/Tori/Jane, so be forewarned. I love her, but I know that everyone won't. She's been described as "Dolly Parton on good acid" (by a friend of mine :-)) and she has a truly odd (and, methinks, wonderful) voice. Her music could be described as "fractured folk/cajun/gospel" and her lyrics are pure, downhome storytelling magic. She's an American national treasure, no doubt in my mind, and I wish that Smithsonian Folkways had picked her up instead of Mammoth. > ======================================================================== SteveF>>> Thanks for relaying Happy's message Vickie! You're welcome! Uli>> looks like a tachyon mail service... ;-) SteveF> Now *THAT* I like. Thanks Uli! I'm lost guys. What's "tachyon" mean? > ======================================================================== MichaelB writes: > I'm baaaaaack! Hi Michael! Welcome back!! > My question is am I or aren't I on their mailing list. I have gotten > the odd letter or notice announcing things (the radio tour for > example), but I haven't received anything recently. I assume that it > is something recent and cool that you'all talking about! :-) If you've gotten things before via snail mail, then you should be on their list. I just got mine today, so you should get something soon too. > ======================================================================== Sue brings even *more* news of goddess releases: > By the way, the Sara McLachlan title is indeed "Fumbling > Toward Ecstasy." I like it! The Dead Can Dance album's > title is "Into the Labyrinth." Cocteau Twins ("Four > Calendar Cafe") and Kirsty MacColl ("Titanic Days") will > release albums on Oct. 5. k.d. lang's new album, "Even > Cowgirls Get The Blues," will be out the same day as Sara's, > Oct. 26. YOW!! 1993-Happy, Kate, Jane, Sarah, Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, k.d. lang *and* Kirsty MacColl??? That's 8. Only 2 more for the Top 10. Peter Gabriel. That's 9. Yikes! *TORI!!* Hurry up!! > ======================================================================== Albert keeps us updated on Christo: > I just received a phone call from Chris Boek. He's arrived safely > in the Netherlands. Yay! Thanks Albert, say hi from me. (Btw, the Peter Gabriel cassette isn't mine) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 24 Aug 93 23:57:44 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: A klaus from Vickie (pt 2) Neile points out: > Please note that if you want to continue receiving newsletters from the > Ville de Bears they need a check for $2 to help them cover mailing costs. Right. I just got the newsletter today, so I didn't know about the $2.00 when I wrote that answer to Neal. > BTW, I'm listening to _The Lion and the Cobra_ for the first time in ages. > I know it's fashionable to dislike Sinead, but this is still a *fantastic* > album. "Troy" "I Want Your Hands On Me", etc. I really like this album too, especially "Jerusalem" and I like Sinead now. I used to be a Sinead-basher, but I started liking her when she tore up that photo of the Pope. Now, the more I learn about her the more I like her. Wait...come to think of it...I started liking her earlier than that SNL move. I actually started liking her when she refused to play (in New Jersey?) if the American national anthem was played before the concert. I thought both actions were very gutsy and meaningful. I also admire her for coming out wrt being abused as a child and the fact that she's still trying to heal from it. I understand her far better now than I used to. > Subject: Sandy Denny > Anyway, the point of all this is that if _Rendezvous_ and/or _Waltz_ are > the only Sandy Denny someone's ever heard, s/he would have a much > different view of her work than someone who has had the opportunity to > hear the other work. Luckily, I've heard quite a bit more than _Waltz_, so I do know how great she is when the material and arrangements are equal to her vocal and interpretive excellence. Thanks for this wonderful post, Neile! > She's a goddess, too, though she did play a lot of covers. In the > pantheon I'd say she's Persephone, because though she's dead her voice > is *alive*. As footah footah footah said, yup! > ======================================================================== MikeM pahs: > I for one am not into fashions. Come to think of it, this list by its very > nature seems to be not into "fashions" -- just unbiased appraisals of great > music. :-) Unbiased? Not me, I'm biased as *hell*! :-) (I'm not fashionable though, I can't afford it!) > ======================================================================== Geoff "soon to see the Cool Thing at O'Hare airport" Parks writes: > A "public" school in the US = A "state" school in England & Wales. The > education system in Scotland is rather different and they might have > different nomenclature there (I don't know for sure). Thanks! perhaps Evan can check in for the Scottish angle. Thanks too, Stephen Thomas, Tim Cook, MPower and AlanE for responding to that post, and the lexicon list. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 22:19:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: Ectophiles Guide Report #1 Hello, everyone. Here is the Ectophiles Guide Report as of today. I'm breaking it up into four messages to keep it simple. This is the first. The second is the list of people already included in the guide. The third is the list of people we don't have entries for, but who have been mentioned on ecto and/or on a list Vickie once posted to rec.music.gaffa. The fourth is the format and guidelines we've been using (not essential for making a contribution!). For those of you new to ecto, the Ectophiles Guide is a project a group of us started to gather together opinions about the many, many artists mentioned on ecto. The opinions are being compiled by the ever-capable ectophiles guide crew: Michael Blackmore, Brian Bloom, Jens Brage, Jim Gurley, Anthony Kosky, and Alan Moorse (thanks, guys!). It will be edited by Mary Lou Rowe and myself, then placed in the archives (with more assistance from Jens Brage). It will then be available for browsing in the archives, and by email to this address. The idea is, that sometime you're reading ecto and notice a mention of, say, Happy Rhodes. You've never heard anything by her and you're curious about her. You could then either go browsing in the archives or email ethelred@u.washington.edu and ask for the Happy Rhodes entry. If there is any demand, we will probably create a paper version of it, as well. Well, that's the rundown. If you have any questions, please mail me at this address. --Neile ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 22:33:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: Ectophiles Guide Report #2 Okay, here is the list of artists that we have received entries on for the guide. Please note that we would love to have more opinions on these artists, so feel freee to make additional comments about anyone on this list and mail them to ethelred@u.washington.edu. Often the entries are incomplete, especially the discographies. Your opinion is welcomed, desired, anticipated. Here is the list: Adam and the Ants / Adams, Oleta / Adult net / Alexiou, Haris / Alice / All About Eve / Allen, Daevid / Altan / Altazor / Amos, Tori / Anderson, Laurie / Andreasson, Elisabeth / Animal Logic / Annabouboula / Archer, Tasmin / Armatrading, Joan / Arson Garden / Arvanitaki, Elftheria / Ashley, Robert / Aweke, Aster Baez, Joan / Bel Canto / Belly / Bergman, Marie / Berryhill, Cindy Lee / Bettie Serveert / Betty / Betty Boo / Big Hat / Black, Mary / blackgirls / Blowzabella / Bobo in White Wooden Houses / Breeders, The / Brennan, Maire / Brightman, Sarah / Bush, Kate Cadell, Meryn / Capercaillie / Carmel / Caterwaul / Caveman Shoestore / Cervenka, Exene / Chandra, Sheila / Chapman, Marshall / Chapman, Tracy / Childs, Toni / Christy, Lauren / Clannad / Cocteau Twins / Cohen, Leonard / Cole Trio, Holly / Concrete Blonde / Cowboy Junkies / Cranberries, The / Cranes / Crash Test Dummies / Crash Vegas Dahlgren, Eva / Dalbello / Dax, Danielle / Dead Can Dance / DeMent, Iris / Denio, Amy / Denny, Sandy / Dolby, Thomas / Dollie de Luxe / Domino, Anna / Drake, Nick Enya Fairground Attraction / Fairport Convention / Faithfull, Marianne / Farmer, Mylene / Ferron / Figgy Duff / Fordham, Julia / Fotheringay / Freelove, Laurie Galas, Diamanda / Garnas, Agnes Buen / Gentle Giant / Gogh van Go / Golden, Pamela / Grant, Amy Harper, Roy / Hart, Tim & Maddy Prior / Harvey, P J / Haza, Ofra / Hendryx, Nona / Hex / Hickman, Sarah / Hinojosa, Tish / His Name is Alive / Holcomb, Robin / Houston, Penelope / Husik, Lida / Hwong, Lucia Indigo Girls / Innocence Mission Jones, Rickie Lee / Joplin, Janis / Joy of Cooking / Karklins, Ingrid / Kirkby, Emma / Lamb, Annabel / lang, k.d. / Latin Quarter / Lauper, Cyndi / Lavin, Christine / Legendary Pink Dots / Love Spirals Downwards / Lovich, Lene MacColl, Kirsty / MacInnes, Mairi / Madder Rose / Maestro Subgum and the Whole / MaHarry, Wendy / Maher, Ashley / Malicorne / Mann, Aimee / Martha and the Muffins (M+M) / Mary's Danish / Mazzy Star / McGarrigle, Kate & Anna / McIlwaine, Ellen / McKennitt, Loreena / McLachlan, Sarah / Mecca Normal / Melanie / Merritt, Scott / Miranda Sex Garden / Mitchell, Joni / Monk, Meredith / Moon Seven Times, The / Moore, Mae / Morris On / Mouth Music / Muffs, The / Muszikas / Mystere Des Voix Bulgares, Le Najma / Nelson, Loey / Nicks, Stevie / Nilsson, Lisa / Nyro, Laura O'Connor, Sinead / O'Hara, Mary Margaret / Opal / Opium Den Pentangle / Phair, Liz / Praise / Pretenders / Prior, Maddy / Prior, Maddy & Tim Hart / Psychowelders Rainbirds / Ravan, Genya / Reader, Eddi / Rhodes, Happy / Roches, The / Roemer, Lotte Salem 66 / Salomonsen, Sanne / Siberry, Jane / Siouxsie and the Banshees / Smith, Kendra / Smith, Patti / Sorensen, Lis / Split Enz / Story, The / Sundays, The / Suzzies Orkester Tabor, June / Tabor, June & The Oyster Band / 10,000 Maniacs / Tikarim, Tanita / Til Tuesday / Too Much Joy / Tribe / Tzuke, Judie Uncle Bonsai Vega, Suzanne Warnes, Jennifer Yacoub, Gabriel / Y Kant Tori Read --Neile for the Ectophiles Guide ethelred@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 22:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: Ectophiles Guide Report #3 Well, now here is the list of artists that we have no entries for. We would really like to include as many of these artists as we can. In the next (and final, aren't you glad?) report, I will include the format we've been using for the entries. While using the format isn't essential, it is helpful to us. HOWEVER, if that's going to make it harder for you to say something about these artists, please just send us whatever you want to say. We long for, hope for, live for, your opinions. And remember, different folks have different opinions, some like apples some like inions (meaning that every opinion is valuable). Oh, and if somebody isn't on this list or the previous one, then we've never even heard of them or have forgotten about them and we need an ectophiles guide entry from you even more. Here's the list: Kerri Anderson | Area | Virginia Astly Banderas | Beautiful Pea Green Boat | Heidi Berry | Iva Bittova | Blake Babies | Asha Boshle Roseanne Cash | Neneh Cherry | Stella Cheweshe | Ana Christensen | Shawn Colvin | Mary Coughlin | Sara Craig | Creatures | Julee Cruise Dark Orange | Grace Darling | Dee Lite | Deux Filles | Sona Diabate | Downy Mildew Everything But the Girl Fat Man Waving | Fetchin Bones, | Float Up CP | Flying Lizards Barbara Gaskin | Lisa Germano | Gong | Barbara Gosza | Shoba Gurtu | Gyan Astrid Hadad | Nina Hagen | Haris | The HeartThrobs | Heavenly Bodies | Hetch Hetchy | Robyn Hitchcock | Becky Hobbs | Myra Holder | Anna Homler | Hugo Largo | Sonya Hunter John and Mary | Grace Jones, | The Judybats | Brenda Kahn, | Dagmar Krause Shona Laing, Annabel Lamb | Anita Lane | Lava Hay, | Annie Lennox | Lotte Lenya | Leslie Spit Treeo | Lulabox | Lush M'bilia Bel, | Kimberly M'Carver | Macalla | Fernanda Maria | Amanda McBroom | Maria McKee | Ulla Meinecke | Mariam Mekeba Nico Maura O'Connell, | Sally Oldfield | Yoko Ono Anna Palm | Elli Paspala | Peacock Palace | Annette Peacock | Sam Phillips | Anne Pigalle Queen Ida | Queen Latifah John Renbourne Group | Rig & PanicRip | Sonya Robinson | Clara Rockmore | Gabrielle Roth Mathilde Santing | Scartaglen | Marta Sebestyen & Muzikas, | The Shaggs, | The Shakers | Shakespear's Sister | Shelleyan Orphan | Michelle Shocked | Silly Sisters | Nina Simone | Single Gun Theory, | Siouxie & the Banshees, | Mercedes Sosa | Sonny Southon, | Jevetta Steele | Steeleye Span | Stereolab | 10 Petits Indiens | The Story | Suddenly, Tammy! | Sugarcubes | The Sundays The Telling | This Mortal Coil | Linda Thompson | Richard Thompson | Throwing Muses | Shelly Thunder | Tiny Lights | Tom Tom Club | Tone Dogs | Toyah | Trio Bulgarka Varttina | Kristen Vigard | Susan Voelz | Voice of the Beehive | Caitlin Von Schmidt Wendy Wall, | Waterlilies | West India Company | Victoria Williams | Sylvia Woods X Akiko Yano | Yma Sumac Chaba Zahouania | Zap Mama --Neile for the Ectophiles Guide ethelred@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 22:53:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: Ectophiles Guide Report #4 Here is the format we've been using for the entries. As I've stressed before, using the format isn't essential but is helpful. We'd rather you sent us an entry that's not in the format than you didn't send us an entry at all. THE FORM: Name of artist (Band/Singer): Country of origin: Type of music (ethereal/rock/folk) generally: Covers/own material?: Other groups artist has played with [for See also section]: Comparisons: General Comments: Recommended first album: Recordings: Title: Year of Release: Label & Country (and address if indie): Catalogue #s: Availability (mention country if applicable): Ecto priority (must have/recommended/recommended for certain tastes [please specify]): Group Members/ Backing Musicians: Comments (please keep brief as you can while still including the information/description you feel is necessary): Do you own this recording? [answer will not appear in actual guide]: --[please repeat recording info for each recording you want to talk about]-- Further info (eg. fan club address): NOTES: --Please respond with one artist per message. It will make it way easier for us to sort through incoming messages). If you can use the artist's/ group's name as the subject line that will help even more. --Our aim is to give you a chance to share info about the music that interests you (and that doesn't) and why--to help to other ectophiles looking for new music. --We included a comparisons section because even though in principle we don't like them, in practice they're useful. --Unless you request otherwise, your name & email address will be attached to the subjective stuff. --Please use smilies to indicate any sarcasm or humour(!!). --Don't feel compelled to fill in each section if it's awkward for you to get the info. If we have blanks we can try to fill them in later. This isn't meant to be a discography of each artist--its main function is to give us a more organized way of letting each other know about artists we love and want to talk about and think other ectophiles might be interested in (or might need to be warned about). --If an artist has a number of albums please give quick reviews of each that you feel you can talk about. --We reserve the right to (carefully, gently) edit responses. --Please send responses or questions to ethelred@u.washington.edu Thank you!! --Neile for the Ectophiles Guide ethelred@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)