Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #691 ecto, Number 691 Monday, 9 August 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Breeders The Happy Rhodes Encyclopedia HAPPY Birthday Re: Happy Rhodes! Happy Birthday Project -- postscript Aimee Mann Today's your birthday friend.... ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 08:30:54 BST Subject: Breeders > Does anybody know when we're going to see a new Breeders album? Latest info in the UK is today (9th). ======================================================================== From: "Klaus Kluge" Date: 9 Aug 93 12:28:14 MET-1 Subject: The Happy Rhodes Encyclopedia ChrisB asked: > > Update on "The Happy Rhodes Encyclopedia": > Sounds good - What's in it ?? Well, I think you're right. I never really introduced the project. "The Happy Rhodes Encyclopedia" is a collection of information about Happy Rhodes presented with a Hypertext system. This is a piece of software that allows you to view information and easily jump to related topics. Imagine seeing "Magazine articles" in a main menu. If you select that you get a list of articles about Happy. Select on, read the article. In it you see a mention of "Feed the Fire". Select that and you get the lyrics of that song, and from there you can go to see information about the whole album where it's from. You always can go back from where you came from. It's _really_ nice. Many help-systems nowadays use an hypertext engine. Included right now are the discography, all of the lyrics, articles and interviews that can be found in the archive, and a bit around it. I create the database for it in a simple format, which I can then convert to the format of an existing hypertext reader. Currently I can create a file for PCs (MS-Windows Help), AmigaGuide (thanx to Anthony Horan for his support) and I'm working on a converter to the NeXT (here thanx go to Uli Grepel). Currently it only contains text, but we are thinking about adding graphics and maybe sound. I'm also still looking for volunteers who can give me some insight on a hypertext format on their system. Also, I hope to find volunteers to write biographies of Happy, Kevin and other people Happy-Fans might be interested in. It still has a couple of empty areas, the conversion to AmigaGuide is not finished, and NeXT-RTF support is just in the first stage, so a first public version will take another month or two. _____ Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge private: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto work: kkluge@materna.de ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 09 Aug 93 14:28:46 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: HAPPY Birthday H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y EE EE E EEEEEE EEEEEE EE EE EE EE EEE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EEEEEEE EE EE EEEEE EEEEE EEEE EE EE EEEEEEE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EE EEEE EEEE EEEE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ || \\\\\ || ///// | dkastens@dosuni1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE || ))))) IRK || ((((( ASTENS | "Music's the way, the only way I know" || ///// || \\\\\ | Happy Rhodes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1993 14:28:53 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Happy Rhodes! In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <93Aug8.161709-0600.42536-2@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca>, you wrote: > production. Now, I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, but does > anyone else think that she might do better with a different producer? No, not at all. One of my first comments to someone on the net upon hearing "Warpaint" and "Equipoise" was that they are two of the best produced and mixed albums I had heard for a long time. > Personally I think it is kind of rare for a musician to also be a good > producer (Kate is of course an prime example of this rarity!). I say Not at all. Name a list of ten famous producers, I'll bet you that 9 out of the 10 are musicians. > this with great hesitation, also, because I think she would need an > exceptional producer, and I know AG probably can't afford a huge name. But why would Happy want a huge name producer? All that would achieve would be to force that producer's sound and idiosyncrasies on the music. When I first put on the tape of Happy that Ilka made for me all those months ago, I expected a low-budget recording of a talented artist, but instead I heard a professionally produced album that sounded vastly superior in terms of production, engineering and mixing to the last few Kate Bush albums and just about everything else in the genre. A producer's role is to guide the artist through the recording process, offering a seperate viewpoint on the music being recorded, and to do this the producer should have as great an understanding of the artist as possible. > wonderful. However, I don't think the EQP cover was appropriate for a > commercial release. (Sorry!) Wait'll you see the cover that EMI have prepared for the Margot Smith album then... :-) > So to sum up I think a big label (preferably one with respect for > their artists) needs to pick up Happy *NOW* and spend lots of money on > finding a producer and perfecting her sound. (Of course I would be No, no, absolutely no - what this would mean is the record company adopting a "we know best" approach in regard to her music. Who are they going to stick Happy in a studio with? Whoever they'd choose, you can bet the objective would be to create, or mould, a sound which is homogenous enough to be acceptable to radio, and to appeal to whatever market they've decided to put her in. Probably "AOR". Trouble is, the big labels have no respect for their artists until their artists start making money. One possible exception might be Sire, though they're no strangers to the manipulation game either. > very happy if this also included the use of more real instruments and > musicians, too.) A keyboard instrument is a real instrument. So is a sequencer. So is the human voice. So is a sampler. If we want to talk about "real" instruments, let's go back to banging on logs - every instrument has its origins in human invention, and electronic instrumentation is no different. In the case of Happy, she's got enough of an understanding of the technology to draw emotion from instruments commonly used for cold soundscapes. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 08:14:58 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Happy Birthday Project -- postscript Greetings, Not only are the HBP tapes done, but with any luck, the full gift should be in Happy's hands today! The final tally of contributing Ectophiles is: Steve Fagg Mitch Pravatiner Albert Philipsen Beth Perry Dirk Kastens Ken Descoteaux Doug Burks Jeff Burka Angelos Kyrlidis Klaus Kluge Alan Moorse Claudia Spix Uli Grepel Joe Zitt Jane Zakrzewski Sammy Tao Bob Lovejoy Mike Mendelson Jens Brage Kjetil T. Homme Dave Dixon I would like to thank each of you for your efforts. They certainly show in the final result, which is a high quality collection of music (in spite of my contributions :) ). I would also especially like to thank Mitch for adding his mellifluous tones to the tapes and Jeff for constructing the kite and putting together the final package and mailing it to Happy. THANK YOU ALL!! You can be very proud of the result. On the business end of things, the 1993 Happy Birthday Project filled THREE C-90 cassette tapes. The contributors listed above can get copies of the HBP tapes under the usual conditions of the tape dubbing project, though I am throwing in one tape and all postage and packaging free, as my thanks for your contribution. However, I would like you to answer two questions: * Do you want me to record over your contribution tape for one tape? (I already know your answer, mjm! :) ) * Which tape dubbing option do you want me to use (mainly a question of whether you want me to use the default project tapes, want to me to purchase a specific type of tape, or want to send me tapes)? Mitch, Klaus, and Jeff, I already have your answers. Beth, in addition to your answers, I need a mailing address. The tapes should start entering the postal system tomorrow. For everyone else, the 1993 Happy Birthday Project now an official part of the tape dubbing project. For your information, I've tacked the updated FAQ for the project onto the end of this post. Normally, I would also post the full listing for the new tapes, but I still like surprises, so I want to postpone its posting until after the initial wave of requests have been satisfied. Should you be unable to hold your curiosity, the listing is available privately upon request, and, of course, it will be included in every order. However, if demand insists, I will post the listing earlier. Hmmmm, wasn't there something else I wanted to say? Oh yes ... O O OOO OOOO OOOO O O OOOO OOO OOOO OOOOO O O OOOO OOO O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O OOOO OOOOO OOOO OOOO O O OOOO O OOOO O OOOOO O O OOOOO O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O OOOO OOO O OO O O O OOOO O O O O O OOO OOOO OOOO O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O OOOOO OOOOO OOOO OOOO O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! Greetings, Here are the answers to all of your questions you have asked (and some that you haven't :) ) about the Ecto tape dubbing project. * What tapes are available? Happy Gift Project 1991, Vol I (C-100) Happy Gift Project 1991, Vol II (C-100) These are songs selected by Ectophiles as a gift for Happy for the winter holiday season. It is quite an eclectic collection to browse through. Miscellaneous Happy tape (C-90) World Cafe interview of Happy, including live versions of "Feed the Fire", "Words Weren't Made For Cowards", and "Given In". The songs are included as originally recorded and in the context of the interview. The tape also includes two songs by Kevin Bartlett with Happy singing ethereal backing vocals, and the five Bartlett/Rhodes demos. Femme Music Collection Vol I (Lushy Pop) (C-90) Femme Music Collection Vol II (Mish Smash) (C-90) Femme Music Collection Vol III (Voices) (C-90) Femme Music Collection Vol IV (International Sampler) (C-90) Femme Music Collection Vol V (Easy, does it?) (C-90) Femme Music Collection Vol VI (C-90) A wide-ranging collection of female vocalists selected by Vickie Mapes Happy Rhodes Live! Albany NY 18 March 1992 Vol I (C-100) Happy Rhodes Live! Albany NY 18 March 1992 Vol II (C-100) Live recording by woj of the Happy Rhodes concert at the QE2. This is a high quality recording for the conditions. (Note that this tape will only be sent to Ectophiles. Please respect Happy's and Kevin's wishes and don't make copies of this for anyone who does not already own Happy's albums). The "Last" Champagne Jam 15 May 1992 Vol I (C-100) The "Last" Champagne Jam 15 May 1992 Vol II (C-100) The "last" Champagne Jam broadcast on WESU-FM in Middletown CT, hosted by Meredith Tarr, chock full of Ecto-style artists and even some (*gasp*) male vocalists. The recording is of decent quality. The Unofficial Happy Sampler (C-100) A sampler of songs by Happy Rhodes from all five of her albums, as chosen by Meredith Tarr. Happy Rhodes Live! Philadelphia PA 21 March 1992 (C-100) Live recording by Greg Bossert of the Happy Rhodes concert at the Harrison Auditorium. This is a good quality recording, though the last third of the concert was lost. (Note that this tape is covered by the same restrictions as the Albany concert tape). Happy radio tour (C-100) Recordings of interviews of Happy by Ed Sciaci (WYSP 28 Mar 93) and Helen Leicht (WMMR 3 Apr 93), including live acoustic performances of her and others' songs. Happy Birthday Project 1993, Vol I (C-90) Happy Birthday Project 1993, Vol II (C-90) Happy Birthday Project 1993, Vol III (C-90) These are songs selected by Ectophiles as a gift for Happy's 28th birthday. As always, it is a wild, wonderful, and occasionally weird collection of music. If you want to read the actual contents of any or all of these tapes, please e-mail me. Besides, each ordered tapes comes complete with a full cassette label and a separate printed content list. * Sounds great! How do I get a copy of any or all of these tapes? Three methods are available for getting the tapes: * Establish a cassette account. In other words, send me a check to cover the cost of cassettes, packaging, and postage. Put in as much as you want, not necessarily just to cover a single order (though you can do that, too). After your first order, anytime you want a cassette, you would just e-mail me, and I can get things out to you as soon as possible without your mailing me anything. In this case, I would dip into my own supply of chrome cassettes which I've ordered in bulk (Thanks, Mitch!). Accounts can be opened or closed at any time. Put in as much as you want, as more tapes will be added. * Establish a cassette account, as in 1, except that I will purchase whatever type of tape you specifically request. Obviously the cost of the tape will be higher, though the packaging and postage will be the same. * Send me the cassettes you want to put the music on (C-90 or C-100) along with money to cover packaging and return postage. I will copy the tapes you request and return them. Consider opening an account, as it will save you having to mail an order, let alone the cassettes. * How much will it cost? If you use my stash of cassettes, the cost for the cassettes is currently $1.24 each. The packaging for mailing the cassettes is between $0.36 and $0.62, depending on the number of tapes mailed. The postage varies according to the number of tapes and the destination. So far, it has ranged between $0.98 and $16.70. Big help, eh? If you wish a more precise estimate of your postage costs, I can give you one via e-mail. US orders will be mailed book rate, taking five to seven days. Non-US orders will be air mailed, taking about seven to ten days. Note that these prices are subject to minor changes without notice. As for foreign payments, so far everyone has sent either American cash or a money order denominated in US currency. I believe that I can handle anything denominated in US currency, and probably any cashier's check (a check drawn on the bank's rather than a personal account). * Where do I send the order? To me. My mailing address: Doug Burks, 2036 West Plum Street C7, Fort Collins CO 80521 USA Orders will be processed in the order I get them, with special dispensation for foreign orders. Please note that I will not process any e-mail orders unless you have an open cassette account. * Anything else I should know? Just a few odds and ends: If I make any mistakes, I will replace the tape for free. I intend to post a progress report on the dubbing operation regularly. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Subject: Aimee Mann Date: Mon, 09 Aug 93 11:10:59 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu mjm is going to be jealous of me again. As if the Shawn Colvin radio show wasn't bad enough. Aimee Mann will be playing a solo (read: not opening for the Kinks) show in Baltimore this Friday at Max's On Broadway. It's an "early show" though I don't yet know what time that is. Tickets are $12.50 in advance and $14 the day of the show (or was that $14.50?) I *hope* to be at the show along with Mike and Beth. More info to follow if I get it. Any other ectophiles going to be there? Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | |SAFH Lite [tm] | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | ======================================================================== Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 93 07:49:10 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ****** |_|appy ***** ****** R| |odes ***** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * New or changes made since last post Marvin Camras Sat January 1 1916 Tapehead Jeanne Schreiter Tue January 3 1967 Capricorn John Sandoval Wed January 4 1967 Capricorn Tony Garrity Mon January 8 1962 Pool of Life Greg Bossert Tue January 9 1962 OfTheTimes Chris Sampson Wed January 15 1964 Void where prohibited Dennis G Parslow Fri January 17 1964 Capricorn Terry Partis Sun January 22 1933 Rocker Bob Lovejoy Sun February 2 1947 Aquarius Stephen Thomas Fri February 4 1966 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank Andrea Custy Tue February 14 1967 Aquarius Jim Sturnfield Thu February 18 1954 Aquarius Juha Kannisto Wed February 18 1970 Aquarius * Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 world trade center=boom Pamela Nielsen Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Christine Kennel Sat March 2 1963 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Philippe Berard Thu March 13 1969 Pisces Randall K. 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Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Liz Fri July 31 1964 Leo * Happy Rhodes Mon August 9 1965 HolyGhost Ron Hill Tue August 11 1964 Leo Vickie Mapes Wed August 15 1956 Giddy Martin Dougiamas Wed August 20 1969 Positive Meredith Tarr Wed September 1 1971 Virgo Mary Lou Rowe Sat September 3 1960 Virgo Scott Zimmerman Mon September 4 1972 Virgo Richard Dean Wed September 6 1967 Virgo * David Blank-Edelman Sat September 9 1967 Neon Chris Williams Tue September 20 1960 Neon 3-D Computer-generated Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Michael Blackmore Fri October 4 1963 Libra Tim Breitkreutz Wed October 7 1964 Libra Dan Riley Sun October 8 1961 Libra Neile Graham Wed October 8 1958 pen Quenby M. Chunco Tue October 8 1968 Crunchy Frog * Wolfgang Drotschmann Thu October 13 1966 Waage Brian Bloom Tue October 14 1969 Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Jessica Dembski Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Katie Dougiamas Sat November 2 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 4 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 5 1962 Scorpio Larry Nathanson Fri November 7 1969 Scorpio Jens Brage Sun November 8 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett-KirchoffSat November 8 1958 Scorpio Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Elizabeth W. Warwick Sun November 15 1964 Scorpio Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Alan Ezust Fri November 21 1969 Earth Moving Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Tommy Persson Wed November 25 1964 Sagittarius Pat Tessitore November 26 Sagittarius Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Chip Lueck Thu December 5 1968 Sagittarius Ken Hoyme Sun December 8 1957 Sagittarius * Shelby Sun December 13 1970 Roscoe the Frog Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Martin Hanley Tue December 27 1966 Capricorn Stuart Castergine Mon December 30 1963 You Are Here -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- If anyone wants to be added to this list, or change their "sign" just e-mail me with the information...if you don't know what weekday you were born on, I can figure it out if you give your complete birthday. Thanks! _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)