Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1090 ecto, Number 1090 Friday, 29 April 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Late night talk show musical guests NIN/Boston Re: the necessity of headphones/philip glass Sarah on "Today" (was sarah, seasonal...) Tori in Montreal Glass, Warnes, etc Late night talk show musical guests ignore all those old messages Late night talk show musical guests Re: Tony Bennet and Leonard Cohen The REAL updated late night musical guest line-up! Re: BETTY Re: Tony Bennet and Leonard Cohen Midge Ure's "Pure" bits and pieces (a real Klaus) Betty and Uncle (Bob?) Re: Midge Ure's "Pure" Re: sam phillips Re: Joanna Lumley SpellChecto :-) SpellChecto--take 2 :-) ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Late night talk show musical guests Date: Sun, 03 Apr 94 00:57:28 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Susan writes: >No goddesses in this latest line-up -- the Cocteau Twins were briefly >LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, 12:35 A.M. EST, NBC >4/7 Sheryl Crow I think Sheryl's been mentioned here. I've only heard her single, "Leaving Las Vegas" and it's pretty good. Cathy Guetzlaff bought the album, and as I recall, wasn't too enamored. >4/8 October Project Has October Project been mentioned here? I've been meaning to ask about 'em. I saw a video of theirs on VH-1 and was *very* impressed. But it seemed like there was a bit of a country feel to it and I wasn't sure if it was a slightly country song by a non-country band, or a less-country song by a country band. I loved the video, whatever it was... >4/14 Holly Cole Trio Okay, so it's technically *next* week. But this is *definite* Ecto material! EctoMa herself won't stop raving about Holly! Jeff ======================================================================== Subject: NIN/Boston Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 17:01:10 -0400 From: lcliffor@bbn.com Sorry for being a bit off track, but I know there is at least one Ectophile who'll want to know about this NIN - Wed. 5/11, Boston Center for the Arts on Tremont St. tickets on sale this Saturday at 3 p.m. Laura ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 23:07:49 -0800 (PST) From: David Dixon Subject: Re: the necessity of headphones/philip glass On Sat, 2 Apr 1994, Jeff Wasilko wrote: > At 11:46 AM 4/2/94 -0500, Bradley N. Hutchinson wrote: > > > I too use the music to concentrate. I really like > > EotB, _1000 airplanes on the roof_, _Passages_the album with Ravi Shankar, > > _Koyaanisqatsi_ and _The Low Symphony_ based on the Bowie album. > > These are only current favorites. > > I find Glass' music does the same. When I have to really grind the mental > gears, Phillip gets into the CD player.... > If you like Glass for mental background music, check out _Stormwarning_ by Steve Roach. It starts out kind of ambient and whooshy, but after a few minutes evolves into a frenzy of sequencers. One of my all-time favorites. Very reminiscent of middle-era Tangerine Dream, but more engaging IMO. D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 00:29:29 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Sarah on "Today" (was sarah, seasonal...) Merediths: > >She did two songs - "Posession", and then after a commercial, most of "Good > >Enough"... > > ARGH!!!! Why didn't *we* get to see that??? It is, after all, an American > network... Oh, well, I got to see her do "Good Enough" on Alternative Nation, > but still. (Was she at the piano, or playing her guitar?) I think the problem was that after Sarah's first song the _Today_ hosts were sitting around talking and then said goodbye and see you later and everything and it really looked like the show was completely over. They then went to commercial. After the commercial they came back and said something like "We close with another song from Sarah. Sarah..." and she started playing it on the piano. It was cool to see her then play it on guitar on Alternative Nation. What talent! :) /-\ |_ |= >< arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu (MST=GMT-7) "And I'm going to be back with you on Network 23 after these real/real/really exciting messages, so sit back and watch. I just can't wait to see them! Wake me up when they're finished, will ya?" -- Max Headroom ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Apr 94 03:26:17 EDT From: justin@campion.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: Tori in Montreal wheee!! wheeeee! Bill Miller was once again the opening act. He played wonderfully and was very much appreciated - to the extent that he said several times he wished more audiences were like this one, and finally that it was the best response he had had in 17 years of performing! After his last song, there was a spontaneous standing ovation. But he couldn't come back for encores because of time constraints, I suppose. the enthusiasm and excitement did not of course die down over the intermission but remained extremely intense all through Tori's performance. She wore a lime-green sleeveless top and jeans; when she came out on stage, to the accompaniment of a cowboy song (presumably Rawhide, as a previous concert reviewer posted) she was lit by black light that made her top glow like a phosphorescent watch and her jeans turn a shocking purple! In this iridescence she began with Smells Like Teen Spirit. The lighting changed afterwards, but most of the time it remained unusual - lots of red and blue, very little of an ordinary white spotlight. She continued with Crucify; Icicle; Precious Things; Happy Phantom; Pretty Good Year; God; Silent All These Years; Cloud on My Tongue; Leather; Upside Down; Me and a Gun; Winter. Encore: Cornflake Girl; A Case of You. 2nd encore: Past the Mission; Here, in My Head; Angie. she told only two stories. The first introduced Icicle, and was about Robert Plant, her grandmother, her father, and Annie the very good girl (cf. Meredith's former signature quote). The second came before Pretty Good Year and talked about Greg who writes letters and whether it's tough to be a man these days - perhaps, but she has no pity. (The Philadelphia review posted a couple of days ago mentions the same monologues.) Towards the end of the concert, she suggested taking everyone along in her pocket for the rest of the tour, if we all had a few months free. :-) God and Cornflake Girl were played with recorded drums, and were consequently much more upbeat than the rest. The lighting during God was also pretty spectacular. Me and a Gun, on the other hand, was particularly stark. A Case of You is of course Joni Mitchell's song from 1971. I hope this turns up on a b-side soon - it's wonderful too. but so was everything. wheee. i'm incoherent and sleepy. bye... justin ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Glass, Warnes, etc Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 01:31:12 -0500 (EST) > > Jennifer Warnes - Famous Blue Raincoat One of my favorite albums! A few years back I got to talking music with five very different people. This turned out to the only record we could think of that all of us liked -- and it turned out that all of us owned copies of it. > _Einstein on the Beach_ is the reason I passed Physics in college. That same > semester I was also taking Intro to Experimental Music, and we studied EOTB > for a little while. I liked it so much I would go to the Music Library and > listen to the first part on headphones while I did problem sets and studied > for tests, and I did much better when I'd studied that way than when I studied > without it. Interesting. I want the new issue discs, but the price is a bit > steep... Glenn, if you don't want yours, I'll buy it from you! :) When I was in college, I worked in the audio-visual library (for the Rutgers-oriented, it was in the basement of Kilmer libes). We had corrals where people could listen to records. I was suggesting things so often that there got to be a coterie of people who would just ask me to "put something good on". Glass's "Music in Similar Motion" (which has just been rereleased) was a big favorite in those pre-EotB days. (BTW, he seems to have a very sweet record deal with Elektra Nonesuch -- but what happened to his supposedly unprecedented deal with Sony Masterworks and his own Point Music label (which, BTW, released one of the least listenable records of all time: John Moran's opera "The Manson Family")? ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 19:34:00 -0500 (EST) From: S Trowbridge Subject: Late night talk show musical guests No goddesses in this latest line-up -- the Cocteau Twins were briefly scheduled for Monday's Leno, then bumped! LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, 11:35 P.M. EST, CBS 4/4 Cheap Trick 4/5 Wynton Marsalis 4/7 Boz Scaggs 4/8 Julie Brown (not as a musical guest, but hey, she's still cool!) 4/11 George Thorogood (rerun) 4/12 Jackson Browne (rerun) 4/13 Jimmy Cliff (rerun) 4/14 Cracker (rerun) 4/15 Meat Loaf (rerun) THE TONIGHT SHOW, 11:35 P.M. EST, NBC 4/5 Barry Manilow 4/6 Richard Marx 4/11 Cast of "Grease" LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, 12:35 A.M. EST, NBC 4/5 Crash Test Dummies 4/6 John Sebastian 4/7 Sheryl Crow 4/8 October Project 4/11 Allman Brothers Band 4/12 Koko Taylor 4/14 Holly Cole Trio 4/15 Henry Rollins --posted by Sue Trowbridge /////////////////////////trow@access.digex.net\\\\\\\\\\\\ "What I find quite inexplicable is that he could suckle at a woman's breast, but not soil his dinky by having sex." /////////////////////--Tori Amos on Jesus Christ\\\\\\\\\\\ ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 17:16:13 EDT From: justin@campion.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: ignore all those old messages Someone in Germany was cleaning their mail queue I suppose... copies of old ecto messages destined for Uli were reposted to the list. The perpetrator has been informed (gently). justin ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 19:34:00 -0500 (EST) From: S Trowbridge Subject: Late night talk show musical guests No goddesses in this latest line-up -- the Cocteau Twins were briefly scheduled for Monday's Leno, then bumped! LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, 11:35 P.M. EST, CBS 4/4 Cheap Trick 4/5 Wynton Marsalis 4/7 Boz Scaggs 4/8 Julie Brown (not as a musical guest, but hey, she's still cool!) 4/11 George Thorogood (rerun) 4/12 Jackson Browne (rerun) 4/13 Jimmy Cliff (rerun) 4/14 Cracker (rerun) 4/15 Meat Loaf (rerun) THE TONIGHT SHOW, 11:35 P.M. EST, NBC 4/5 Barry Manilow 4/6 Richard Marx 4/11 Cast of "Grease" LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, 12:35 A.M. EST, NBC 4/5 Crash Test Dummies 4/6 John Sebastian 4/7 Sheryl Crow 4/8 October Project 4/11 Allman Brothers Band 4/12 Koko Taylor 4/14 Holly Cole Trio 4/15 Henry Rollins --posted by Sue Trowbridge /////////////////////////trow@access.digex.net\\\\\\\\\\\\ "What I find quite inexplicable is that he could suckle at a woman's breast, but not soil his dinky by having sex." /////////////////////--Tori Amos on Jesus Christ\\\\\\\\\\\ ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Re: Tony Bennet and Leonard Cohen Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 18:49:48 -0400 (EDT) > All this talk of Tony Bennet reminds me (god knows WHY) of Leonard Cohen. > I first saw him on the Tonight Show (w/ Johnny Carson) so I figured he > wasn't anything new... I found out, not too long ago, that he's been around > for a long time, and started by singing folk music. I've heard some of > "Famous Blue Raincoat" which is, IMO, decidedly folky. On TTS, he sang > "The Future", and possibly "First We'll Take Manhattan". Of the few songs > I've heard of his, I like those two the best. I'm a Leonard Cohen *fanatic*. He keeps getting better and better, and his performance in Austin in July was incredible. The "Famous Blue Raincoat" album is the best intro, IMHO, followed by the two latest and "Best of". Come to think of it, I'm also partial to "Songs" and "Recent Songs" and... oh, hell, get everything (except for, possibly, "Death of a Ladies' Man" and his novel "Beautiful Losers" (though I do like his earlier novel "The Favorite Game" (which reads like Chaim Potok on heavy downers)(and I think I've been programming in Lisp for too long...))) Joan Beaz, Judy Collins, Joe Cocker, the Neville Brothers, and others have also done good versions of his songs. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 19:12:42 -0400 (EDT) From: S Trowbridge Subject: The REAL updated late night musical guest line-up! Some demonic mail server keeps spitting back an ancient version of this, so I decided I'd better post an honest-to-goodness update... --Sue Trowbridge, who's very much looking forward to watching the tape of last night's Letterman with Liz Phair LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, 11:35 P.M. EST, CBS 4/19 Lyle Lovett and Al Green 4/20 Jessye Norman 4/21 Candlebox 4/25 Reba McEntire 4/26 Gin Blossoms 4/27 Brian Setzer 4/28 Bonnie Raitt 4/29 Randy Travis THE TONIGHT SHOW, 11:35 P.M. EST, NBC 4/19 Performers from the cast of "Grease" 4/20 Rob Wasserman and Bob Weir 4/21 Pavement 4/25 Bruce Cockburn 4/26 B.B. King and Diane Schuur 4/29 Cheap Trick LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, 12:35 A.M. EST, NBC 4/19 Meat Puppets 4/20 Charlatans 4/22 Kristen Hersh 4/25 Richard Thompson 4/26 Golden Palominos 4/27 Buffalo Tom 4/28 Junior Brown ======================================================================== Subject: Re: BETTY Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 19:43:45 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Karen asked: >Does Betty still perform often in DC? If so, where do they normally play? >Everyone's description of them sounds interesting and I'd like to see >them live. Betty plays DC on the order of every few months. They play all over the place, not just at Blues Alley; I know they've been at the Barns of Wolftrap at least once, and I know I've seen them listed for other clubs (including the Birchmere) (The Birchmere is a rather hip place, though for some reason I've never been there. Tori's first post-Little Earthquakes DC date was there. Other ectofodder artists who've played there are (or will be) Kristen Hersh, Heidi Berry, the Story, etc., etc....) Strangely, I've only seen Betty live once, and that was at the MOW '93. After the classic "Hi, we're Betty" (surprisingly few people hollered back "Hello Betty!" the first time), they did a *sublime* version of "The Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy". Jeff ======================================================================== From: Stuart Myerburg Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 20:41:01 -0500 Subject: Re: Tony Bennet and Leonard Cohen > Oh, and BTW, Stuart Myerburg gets .sig of the week....for this.... > > >"If it was a choice between Morrissey and k.d. lang on a desert island... > >I think I would get more action from k.d." - Tori Amos :-) The award should really go to Tori for being so damn quotable. Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu "Look, one day I am going to show up at one of your shows with some oven fried chicken and you won't even know Head Like a Hole." - Tori Amos to Trent Reznor __________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 21:33:23 -0600 (MDT) From: tis but a scratch! Subject: Midge Ure's "Pure" Mike Mikes: >I know I've said this before, but in my eternal quest >for "happy" (i.e. not depressing) music (as distinguished >from my other quest for Happy music :-), there is not much >better (lyrics aside for some of the songs, I guess) >that Midge Ure's Pure. I know we've gone over the pluses >and minuses of ultravox, etc. etc., and other Ure albums, >but Pure is not only my hands down favorite of everything >I've ever heard Midge do, but just a really great up album. Um... Err... I'm a _huge_ Ultravox/Midge Ure fan, but I thought 'Answers to Nothing' was a little weak, and I flat out didn't like 'Pure'. Especially the single 'Cold, Cold Heart'... *shudder* I am in no way trying to slam Mike, I'm just giving my own response to the album. Go figure... (Anthony? Your two cents?) :) smudge Anthony: we still have that Rare CD at the store for you; my boss never got around to figuring out what the $$$ total will be with shipping, and our schedules have been pretty incompatible lately i.e. I never see much of her anymore. I'll bug her again tomorrow... ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 21:05:27 Subject: bits and pieces (a real Klaus) Hiya! Just some quick notes while I remember what I was going to write. After our vacation I'm still behind in reading ecto and e-mail; nothing unusual. In case you were wondering: we had a nice week on Malta, if you can ignore some pretty bad weather for the last two days which resulted in our hotel being evacuated, but the good impressions were stronger. There isn't a lot which beats sitting in warm sunshine, near 5500 year old temples, reading "Avaryan Rising" (the 1st2of4 at least). Thanks for the many birthday wishes which I got through ecto, e-mail or phone, making sure that I didn't miss the day myself. :) We had a nice christmas celebration that evening. I told you I'm still behind with some things. :) Last week we saw Tori in Duesseldorf. The times where hardly anyone knew her are definitely over. The 1000 seat venue was sold out and there were still some guys hoping for tickets. Still, Tori managed to catch the full attention of the crowd. She played two songs with full band, courtesy of playback, but I would have been much happier with just a piano version. Also, I wasn't too pleased with the light "show". I don't want to be distracted from Tori and her piano. Sunday night we saw Loreena McKennitt in Cologne (not Hamburg as the Quinlan Road postcard lists) for the first time, and it was well worth the long and late journey. An extraordinary voice and an extraordinary band. BTW, one or two of the songs from her new album are actually played on radio here. BIG surprise, that. > From: kosky@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Anthony Kosky) > *WARNING for rdt - non-Tori (but read it anyway)* > Tuesday saw the US release of The Divine Comedy, the debut album by > Milla Jovovich. Hah, I wouldn't call that non-Tori, as the support act for our Tori concert was a british band called The Divine Comedy! :) I'm still looking for The new Moon Seven Times 7 = 49 album, but it has been released locally and they are also getting attention in the music press (and even in our TV guide), so it probably won't take long. My apologies to Stuart (the invisible man ;) for the empty cake. Here's the complete line: *** Stuart Myerburg *** Now you all know that the cakes are all handwritten (or more precisely, fingerpushed), and doing so very early in the morning might not be successful. Unfortunately I can't promise that it won't happen again. Tippi wrote about an Andreas Vollenweider concert: > He had an American woman singing with him, Eliza Somebody (I didn't even > keep the program notes.) That's Eliza Gilkison. > If it were Happy, she would have done a 100 times better at the vocals. Agreed! :) > But then she'd only get to sing one of her own songs. That's not correct, as Eliza wrote most of the lyrics from the last Vollenweider album. I don't know how much Andreas restricted the contents, but in theory this could have been lyrics by Happy. I noticed some talk about Sarah videos. There's just a bad copy of "(Out of the mud) Into the Fire" in my possession, but I've just noticed today that there's a video compilation of the "No Alternative" sampler, which contains the "Hold On" video. Haven't seen it myself, but it is listed. The same catalogue also lists "Fumbling ...", so I guess it has finally been released over here. Klaus (nameless and nudged :) (I'm working on it, really) PS: congratulations and good luck in SF Jessica! _____ Klaus "Cosmic Vagabond" Kluge --*-- klaus@inphobos.wupper.de If you catch me in the mood, I'm your sister, mother, beast or lover possibly you'll find me inmidst this multitude. -Dob Russkin- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 01:12 PDT From: buck@satyr.sylvan.com (Michael Butler) Subject: Betty and Uncle (Bob?) Chris Sampson writes: > While I've never heard of BETTY, I can share my suspicion that B.E.T.T.Y. is > a joke wrt The Man from U.N.C.L.E. *AND* an acronym (U.N.C.L.E. actually > stands for something...Where's Dave Dixon in all this?). Robert Vaughn > played Napolean Solo, and David(Robert?) McCallum (sp?) played [warning, > atrocious spelling ahead] Ily Kiriakin (more or less phonetically). > > Actually, U.N.C.L.E. doesn't stand for anything....The story goes > that the writers/et al. just made it LOOK like an acronym, and, after the > first show or two, were inundated with viewer mail wanting to know WHAT/S > IT STAND FOR!?!?!?!? They had to make something up, and probably lamented > the fact that they didn't engineer it correctly from the beginning. As I > remember, it comes off as sounding a bit contrived if you don't know the > history, and remarkably smooth if you do. By the time the magazine (in digest size) came out, they had their story together, though: United Network Command for Law and Enforcement (and yes, the "and" was intentional--to permit *extralegal* enforcement on occasion)... and the bad guys were the Technological Hierarchy for the Removal of Undesirables and the Subjugation of Humanity. I thought *that* was *way* cool. And I *knew* somebody had faked *that*... > Chris Sampson Michael Butler ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Midge Ure's "Pure" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 12:48:05 -0400 From: lcliffor@bbn.com >Um... Err... I'm a _huge_ Ultravox/Midge Ure fan, but I thought 'Answers to >Nothing' was a little weak, and I flat out didn't like 'Pure'. Especially the >single 'Cold, Cold Heart'... *shudder* Well I was a big fan of Ultravox in the Foxx days and gradually fell away when Midge Ure came on. Funnily enough, the only Ure album I own is "Pure" and I really like it for exactly the reasons Mike stated! Go figure (as Mitch would say).... Laura ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 13:52:21 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: sam phillips On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, eric jensen wrote: > wondering if anyone has heard the new sam phillips album yet. if so, > what is it like? is it different from cruel inventions? i couldn't get > cruel inventions out of my cd player for the longest time. every song > was really great. I'm wading through the 200 messages I found in my mailbox upon returning to it this morning. It doesn't pay to be sick after a long weekend! I'm sure someone must have responded to this already, but I will too. I like Sam's _Martinis and Bikinis_ quite a bit. It is similar to _Cruel inventions_, I think. It didn't grab me the first time through, but subsequent listens proved it's worth. It's great! Michael ======================================================================== From: mklprc@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 17:34:00 EDT Subject: Re: Joanna Lumley Quoting Philip Sainty in Ecto 1088 re: BETTY > Although I do remember that Joanna Lumley (now to be seen in > Jennifer Saunders' "Absolutely Fabulous") played Sapphire... I have a beautiful scanned PICT of Joanna Lumley as my background screen. I wondered what happened to her. What/when is "Absolutely Fabulous"? Michael Pearce mklprc@aol.com ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 16:44:18 CDT From: Subject: SpellChecto :-) Klaus kluges: ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 16:47:28 CDT From: Subject: SpellChecto--take 2 :-) _Verdammte_ function keys that get under your fingers when you're trying to hit completely different ones. Let's take it from the top. ANYWAY... Klaus kluges: >Tippi wrote about an Andreas Vollenweider concert: >> He had an American woman singing with him, Eliza Somebody (I didn't even >> keep the program notes.) >That's Eliza Gilkison. ACTUALLY, it's Eliza Gilkyson. Is Michael talking about the same Joanna Lumley who was in _The New Avengers_ on telly? She never was able to hold a candle to Mrs. Peel, but then, who on earth could? :-) Mitch ------------------------------- 'Yanomamo" (learn to spelll it.)' --from a syllabus for Anthropology 160, Spring Quarter 1972 ['o"' in above is as in 'O"sterreich'] ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)