Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1068 ecto, Number 1068 Thursday, 7 April 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Near miss? WHUS Rhodes Catalog end subscription Sarah thought ingrid karklins Re: ectopics Does Anyone Know... Re: Einstein on the Beach Boot to the head? Re: Does Anyone Know... Various Re: Does Anyone Know... what happened? Call for Participants - UK Ecto Party May 7th 1994 Bjork v. Bjoerk An Ectophile met and an April Fool Re: sarah, seasonal music, tori, etc. Bjork or Bjoerk ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:06:02 CDT From: Subject: Near miss? Today on one of the IRC channels I hang on (not #ecto), one of my fellow- travelers had the handle "krhodes." No cigar, but close :-). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:10:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Void Where Prohibited! Subject: WHUS Rhodes Catalog I found out the other day, that John Sloan (with the Accoustically Sound show on Sundays on WHUS....'member?) ordered ALL 7? Happy Rhodes CDs for the station. He's received 6 so far, with Ecto on backorder. What I wanna know is these: 1) Has anyone else had this kind of success with ordering from AG for radio stations? (Meth, Vickie???) 2) Did he probably have to twist some arms to get them...I told him to drop my name...hopefully he didn't drop it on someone's toe. 3) Whattya think? Should we try to get Mitch Elrod's Swim Team, as well? What else is in the AG catalog???? .----------------------------------------------------------------------. ./| ...hopes and dreams... | | |/| ...notes and themes... | Chris Sampson | |/| ...skill and schemes... | chris@neuron.uchc.edu | |/| ...ppy Rho... | | |/`-----------------------------------------------------------------------' |///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// `------------------------------------------------------------------------' ======================================================================== Date: 04 Apr 1994 19:33:10 -0500 (EST) From: TKUVEAB@grove.iup.edu Subject: end subscription hi, i would appreciate it if you could end my subscription to ect because my daily e-mail is getting to be too much. Thanks for the oodles of info you've provided. bill cohen tkuveab@grove.iup.edu ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 17:04:37 -0700 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: Sarah thought i said: :>Thanx to the urging of folks like Neile and woj, i have been drawn :>into her music and can play "Possession" over and over for hours. and woj asked: > if fte is what drew you into sarah's music, are you implying that you > didn't like her first two albums or that you hadn't heard her first two > albums? Well, i have her first two albums, and like the 1st more than the 2nd, but i can't say she really GRABBED me until recently. Now, where did i put my copy of that mudbath video ...? :) Mp --- Michael Peskura - University of Washington - Seattle USA ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 20:56:57 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (throttled by meredith) Subject: ingrid karklins i received a postcard in today's mail from green linnet records informing me of the impending record release party for ingrid karklin's new album, _anima mundi_ (is that latin? my untrained ear thinks so and suspects that the translation might be "world spirit" or something to that effect). unfortunately, i'm not in austin and can't go... however, if you are in austin and aren't busy this coming friday, the 8th of april, check it out! at 5pm, there will be an instore appearance at waterloo records (6th and lamar, phone 512/474-2500) followed by the party itself from 8-10 pm at the laguan gloria art museum on 3809 w. 35st street (phone 512/458-8191). if anyone goes, say hi to ingrid for me (i'm the guy who taped the buttonwood tree show last month) and remind her that i'd like my tape of her early stuff. ;) also, if you are interested in ordering her new album, call green linnet's tool free number, 800/468-6644, and do so. they'll also send you a free catalogue if you ask nicely. :) +woj ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Re: ectopics Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 21:49:36 -0400 (EDT) > although this won't help you get the lyrics, if i'm not mistaken, carla > bley recorded a double lp for that piece, no? a year ago or so, > noteworthy music had a listing for this but when i ordered it, it was > indefinitely out of print. i just checked their latest catalog and it's > missing entirely now. i was disappointed by this since i had heard a > number of very good things about that release. I actually have this (on vinyl). It's.. um... er.... Well, in the past 10 years I've actually gotten through about a third of it. I keep wanting to like Carla Bley's work, but it somehow escapes me. (She's a nice person, though; I once played opposite her (at adjoining pianos) in a recording session for a piece for 40 pianos by Malcolm Goldstein.) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 04 Apr 1994 21:59:34 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: Does Anyone Know... ...what artist does the maddening song about "Push the little daisies and make 'em come up?" Could you please tell me? Thankiss, Holly ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Re: Einstein on the Beach Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 21:58:23 -0400 (EDT) > > Sam asks the musical question: > > >I just saw the new EotB box (which said "First Complete > >Recording"). Please, anyone: what's different (or more complete) about > >the new box? > > During the brief period that WHUS owned the new (and improved?) > Einstein on the Beach, I listened to it....and could not tell for sure if > what I hoped was the case, was, in fact, the case. If you read the > original medium (be it CD, LP or whatever) you will notice that the record > company explains that, in order to fit all the material on the LP, they > sped some section s of the music......When I bought the CD set, I read > this, and promptly wrote CBS record a note imploring them to, now that such > a thing was supported by the technology, re master the work at normal > speed, (The original CD set is on 4, count 'em, FOUR CDs for a combined > total of ca. 280 minutes of recorded time (more like 296)....MORE than > enough to fit all the material, some of which was presumably sped up. The story I heard was not that they had sped up the *tempos*, but that they had cut down on the number of repetitions of the phrases. When I interviewed Glass back then, he said that the opening motif of the piece was gradually expanded in concert over the course of about 45 minutes, deleted for the recording. One thing that interests me is that, is memory serves, the libretto in "Music by Phillip Glass" has a lot more text than the Tomato recording. ======================================================================== From: al@167-290-33.hexacom.com (al) Date: 03 Apr 94 18:24:36 -0500 Subject: Boot to the head? > Can some kind soul PLEASE tell me the name of the group famous for > the songs/skits with the aforementioned phrase in them???? The Frantics. Remember Mr. Canoehead? The Frantics had a programme on the CBC TV years ago. Of my memory the best (as in 'more consistently funny') comedy show on English-Canadian TV. The Kids (in the Hall) aren't too bad, but sometimes they're dull. Alain al@hexacom.com ===================================================== ======================================================================== From: Stuart Myerburg Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 22:45:01 -0500 Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know... > ...what artist does the maddening song about > "Push the little daisies and make 'em come up?" Ween. I don't know much about them except that the band consists of 2 men (I think brothers) who are quite strange. Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu "Look, one day I am going to show up at one of your shows with some oven fried chicken and you won't even know Head Like a Hole." - Tori Amos to Trent Reznor __________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 22:49:59 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Various Jeffy jeffs: > Susan writes: > >No goddesses in this latest line-up > >4/14 Holly Cole Trio > > Okay, so it's technically *next* week. But this is *definite* Ecto > material! EctoMa herself won't stop raving about Holly! but does anyone listen? :-) I actually think of Holly more as an "apostle" rather than a goddess on the level of Kate/Happy/Jane/Tori/Sarah. Because Holly is "classified" as a jazz vocalist, it's as hard to get people to give her a chance as it used to be with kd lang, when she was "classified" as a country vocalist. Still, Holly does to jazz vocals what kd did to country vocals...that is, they take a style of music, change it and twist it to suit their own personalities and add their own brand of irreverence, humor and point-of-view. While they definitely respect the original musical style, they (to me anyway) send it to another dimension. Even people who generally didn't like country found they loved kd's "country" albums, and I think that people who aren't that crazy about jazz vocals (like me) can thoroughly enjoy Holly's work, like me. She comes across much "straighter" on album than she does live, which is why I *highly* recommend seeing Holly live, if at all possible. I'll be interested to see how the Conan appearance comes off. Disclaimer: It's very possible that my view is biased because I've met Holly a few times, interviewed her once (during a very fun brunch) and I've seen her in concert 4 times (3 with the Holly Cole Trio and the 4th at the Choral Christmas concert). I know what a fun, interesting and nice person she is in real life, so I definitely project those good feelings back to her when I listen to the album. But, since I'm generally *not* interested in jazz vocals, I'd hardly listened to the album at all before I met her. All I can say is that if you *love* jazz vocals, you will almost certainly *love* Holly Cole (though I don't know what "purists" will think of her) and if you *hate* jazz vocals, I may not be able to talk you into giving her a try. If you're in the middle, as I was (I can only take jazz vocals in very small doses) then I'd suggest at least watching the Conan appearance. (if it's available to you, of course) At the very least, it's good for Ectophiles to know *who* she is and what she's like, since she's such a major part of the "Toronto Music Mafia" and is close friends with Jane Siberry, Mary Margaret O'Hara & kd lang, among lots of others, and you'll be hearing her name a lot. MJM mjms: > Vickie wrote: > > |MJM writes: > |> BTW, she thinks both FTE and WIWAB suck. > |> (Tam claims Jane has heard her demos and stopped talking to her. > |> Feeling threatened? > > Ooooops... that should been followed by a BIG . > > | > |Did this come from you or her? If her, she sounds like a decidedly > |unpleasant person. If you, saying something like that is *not* the > |way to get people interested in someone Mike. Why say it? > > Already I have biased you against her. Clearly I am not doing > a very good job at all. Well, it's not you as much as it was me. It's a good example of why someone (me) shouldn't post when they're in a bad mood. I got the negative feelings when I first read your post, but was wise enough not to post at that time. Then, a week or so later, I was listening to WIWAB and going through my mail file. Re-reading your post about Tam put me back into a bad mood and unfortunately I did answer that time. I should have just sent it to you instead of Ecto too. I won't quote any more of your message, but I did read it and I did take it to heart. If any good has come out of me opening my big mouth, it's that you did answer some of my questions and the negative feelings I had are pretty much gone. If I hadn't said *anything* I would still feel the way I did when I wrote the post, it's just that no one would know. It's just too bad this didn't take place in e-mail though. Sorry (to you Mike, and everyone else who had to read my snippy-fit) > From: idp3286@hertz.njit.edu (Ian Daniel Plotkin) > Subject: Please subscribe me > thanks > From: "I can't find my marmots . . ." > Subject: subscription? > Could I please get a subscription? > Janet Welcome to Ian, Janet, Alain and other new Ectophiles out there! > From: Alain.Lachapelle@167-290-33.hexacom.com (Alain Lachapelle) > Subject: What I listen to... > > OK, apart from Happy Rhodes, here's what I listen to. In no order whatsoever: > > Minimum Vital, Xaal, Tiemko, Isildurs Bane, Bruce Cockburn, Ozric Tentacles, > Stella Vander, Patrick Gauthier, Eris Pluvia, Richard Pinhas, Richard Seguin, > Premiata Forneria Marconi, Pere Ubu, Tom Cochrane, Terreno Baldio, Miriodor, > Sugarcubes, RHCP, Noetra, Michel Rivard, Conventum, Kronos Quartet, Ars Nova, > Paul Piche, Shriekback, Echolyn, Zappa, Joni Mitchell, Kevin Ayers, and 'many > more' as they say. Great list! I haven't heard, or heard of most of these and the nice thing about Ecto is that talk of other artists is very much encouraged. Feel free to tell us about anyone here! (I know of Bruce C, Ozric T, Pere U, Sugarcubes, Kronos, Shriekback, Zappa, Joni M & Kevin A....the rest are unknown to me) > From: Void Where Prohibited! > Subject: WHUS Rhodes Catalog > > I found out the other day, that John Sloan (with the Accoustically Sound > show on Sundays on WHUS....'member?) ordered ALL 7? Happy Rhodes CDs for > the station. He's received 6 so far, with Ecto on backorder. > What I wanna know is these: > > 1) Has anyone else had this kind of success with ordering from > AG for radio stations? (Meth, Vickie???) I can't answer, because I've never done it. Good for John Sloan! > 2) Did he probably have to twist some arms to get them...I > told him to drop my name...hopefully he didn't drop it on > someone's toe. I don't know that either, but I'm sure that H&K&Suzanne are always more than pleased when a radio station expresses interest in Happy's music. > 3) Whattya think? Should we try to get Mitch Elrod's Swim > Team, as well? What else is in the AG catalog???? Well, if the station will play cassettes, Kevin has about 14 albums on Aural Gratification. Tell 'em to at least get "Incantations" and "Evocations" because Happy sings on those albums. > .----------------------------------------------------------------------. > ./| ...hopes and dreams... | | > |/| ...notes and themes... | Chris Sampson | > |/| ...skill and schemes... | chris@neuron.uchc.edu | > |/| ...ppy Rho... | | > |/`-----------------------------------------------------------------------' > |///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > `------------------------------------------------------------------------' :-) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 22:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: S Trowbridge Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know... > ...what artist does the maddening song about > "Push the little daisies and make 'em come up?" > > Could you please tell me? Ween! --Sue Trowbridge /////////////////////////trow@access.digex.net\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ "What I find quite inexplicable is that he could suckle at a woman's breast, but not soil his dinky by having sex." /////////////////////--Tori Amos on Jesus Christ\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ======================================================================== From: Ron Hogan Subject: what happened? Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 23:57:48 -0700 (PDT) So I turn away from Letterman from one night, all set for some Cocteau Twins. Only reason I would bother to watch Leno, and I tune in a bit late, so I see the first NIAA female pitcher, and that's cool, and then Leno announces his guests. jane Seymour, Gil Gottfried, and Montel Williams. Something is missing. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 05 Apr 94 09:58:59 BST From: GTP10@phx.cam.ac.uk Subject: Call for Participants - UK Ecto Party May 7th 1994 With the Easter Holidays out of the way, I thought it would be a good idea to re-advertise the Ecto Party which I am hosting in Cambridge on Saturday 7th May (and Friday 6th May for early arrivals). This is, of course, timed to coincide with the Konvention in London on Sunday 8th May. So far, there will definitely be attendees from the UK and Germany, from Australia (via Holland) with 80% certainty, but none from anywhere else... Geoff Parks PS I append logistical information: I can accommodate a number of people in relative comfort at my home (and many more if floor space will suffice) and can probably prevail upon other Cambridge Ectophiles to offer spare beds etc. It takes an hour by train from Cambridge to central London, so getting to the Convention on Sunday shouldn't be too arduous a journey. Cambridge is reachable from all three London airports by bus/coach. The journey takes 3 hours from Gatwick, 2 hours from Heathrow and 45 minutes from Stansted. The main Cambridge bus depot is a couple of minutes walk from my home (I live pretty centrally). You can also do the journey by train (via London) but it's probably only quicker for arrivals at Gatwick. (It may also be possible to arrange to meet people at airports depending on arrival times etc.) ======================================================================== Subject: Bjork v. Bjoerk Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 10:04:12 GMT From: tim@falcon.is (Tim Breitkreutz) Justin says: >it's standard practice in German to resort to oe for o-umlaut >or ae for a-umlaut if you're stuck with a primitive communications >medium (PCM) that can't handle diacritical marks. However: this is >not an international or even pan-European thing, and Bj"ork isn't >German. Or think of Z"urich, largest city in Switzerland; a German >speaker with a PCM will write it Zuerich, but try that in Britain, >France, or even the French-speaking part of Switzerland and it'll >seem rather odd. In those cultures, one drop diacriticals on PCMs. Yeah, here in Iceland they seem to just drop accents and diacriticals when forced to resort to PCMs. Of course this is a minor problem compared to what to do with thorn, eth, and the character which is like an a and e smashed together, which in Icelandic is a regular letter never spelled "ae". So, at least in Iceland, it's Bjork, not Bjoerk. Tim ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 06:38:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: An Ectophile met and an April Fool Hi! Last night we had the pleasure of meeting Detroit-area ectophile Don Gibson and his wife. We had a nice chat, and they got to meet Max, our overeager but kind Golden Retreiver. I gave him a tape of Rearmament, as it was one of two albums he didn't have yet. All in all, we had a great evening and it's always nice to meet another ectophile! Looks like the Enya/Sarah thing was an April Fools joke on Usenet. They still have people going nuts here! I'm glad I was aware of the date when I posted... See y'all soon! Bob the Robert ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:50:49 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: sarah, seasonal music, tori, etc. Meredith writes: > Oooh boy, do I have a lot to catch up on... My meg'o'rdt is still sitting there staring at me, daring me to read it... > >I've seen the "Possession" video a few times ... i'm afraid it misses > >the VERY erotic point of that song. She needs a new video director! > > Yeah... herself. Have you seen the Canadian version? She directed it, > and imo it's vastly superior to the American version - it's got a woman- All this talk of Sarah videos has me curious to see them; unfortunately, we never got any singles of hers released here, so no videos. Anyone know if there's a video compilation available, or any plans for one? > Anthony gushed: :-P :-) > And if you ever see Happy live, you'll be blown away a third time, for the > very same reason. I await the day when I get the chance to see her live. One day, one day... probably I'm going to have to see all these artists I've been wanting to see for ages - The Moon Seven Times, Tribe, Happy, Sarah - by undertaking a US Tour of my own. Anyone want to bring me to the US for a tour? I'll do interviews if necessary, and you can have full approval of the tour t-shirts. :) > >She did two songs - "Posession", and then after a commercial, most of "Good > >Enough"... > > ARGH!!!! Why didn't *we* get to see that??? It is, after all, an American > network... Oh, well, I got to see her do "Good Enough" on Alternative Nation, > but still. (Was she at the piano, or playing her guitar?) Channel 7 here always run the full feed of "Today" so we often get extra bits that many don't see, including the "co-op" chats that are replaced by local news in every city except New York... she played it on the piano, and got cut off about two-thirds of the way in to the song... > Speaking of which... I'm going to see Sarah *again*!!! On April 20th at SUNY Oh nyaah. :-) - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== From: al@167-290-33.hexacom.com (al) Date: 03 Apr 94 23:16:21 -0500 Subject: Bjork or Bjoerk Justin wrote: > German. Or think of Z"urich, largest city in Switzerland; a German > speaker with a PCM will write it Zuerich, but try that in Britain, > France, or even the French-speaking part of Switzerland and it'll > seem rather odd. For very good reasons: 'Zurich' doesn't take the 'umlauted u' in either English or French. Thus, 'Zurich' is the proper spelling for both. No need at all for the additional "e". Great relief for PCM users! There are things like that. For example we'll say, in French, 'Cologne' instead of 'Koeln', the German city (I think Koeln got also a different name in English). Pushing things further, we'll say (and write), in English, 'Finland' instead of 'Suomi' or 'Sweden' instead of 'Sverige'... etcetera. There are some adaptations like that. Bjork or Bjoerk? We can perhaps ask her directly: I once saw the Sugarcubes' internet address somewhere. Alain al@hexacom.com ============================================== ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)