Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1067 ecto, Number 1067 Monday, 4 April 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: philip glass Boot to the head? Re: Boot to the head? Einstein on the Beach Update on Happy Cards... Tam Clarification Please subscribe me subscription? Re: PJ Harvey and Bjork A mishmash guaranteed to drive the backlogged subscriber nuts :-) What I listen to... Lydia Domancich Bjork or Bjoerk ectopics ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 04 Apr 1994 14:30:19 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Warren Subject: Re: philip glass brad hutchin said: > Also, I prefer the new EotB over the old. I've got all the old stuff (up to _1000 Airplanes..._) on vinyl. I've replaced some on CD. I just saw the new EotB box (which said "First Complete Recording"). Please, anyone: what's different (or more complete) about the new box? -Sam PS I finally got Loreena McKennitt's _The Visit_ and _The Mask and Mirror_. Thanks again, you guys (and gals, of course), they're really terrific! And to all Bjork fans out there, I got a live boot. It's called _Sugar Candy Kisses_, and it's pretty wonderful. There are two songs ("If You Complain Once More" and "Modern Things") from the new album (release date, anyone?). ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:59:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Sampson Subject: Boot to the head? Can some kind soul PLEASE tell me the name of the group famous for the songs/skits with the aforementioned phrase in them???? BONUS QUESTION: Can anybody please tell me the name of the guy Al? "Jazzbo" _______ who does/did the skits in which he retells classic children's stories (e.g., Rumplestiltskin) in beatnik language??? I wanna/needta know for my show tonight......Thanks to whoever answers. Chris ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 12:34:31 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dixon Subject: Re: Boot to the head? On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Chris Sampson wrote: > Can some kind soul PLEASE tell me the name of the group famous for the > songs/skits with the aforementioned phrase in them???? That would be the Canadian comedy troupe The Frantics. Hilarious stuff. D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:37:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Sampson Subject: Einstein on the Beach Sam asks the musical question: >I just saw the new EotB box (which said "First Complete >Recording"). Please, anyone: what's different (or more complete) about >the new box? During the brief period that WHUS owned the new (and improved?) Einstein on the Beach, I listened to it....and could not tell for sure if what I hoped was the case, was, in fact, the case. If you read the original medium (be it CD, LP or whatever) you will notice that the record company explains that, in order to fit all the material on the LP, they sped some section s of the music......When I bought the CD set, I read this, and promptly wrote CBS record a note imploring them to, now that such a thing was supported by the technology, re master the work at normal speed, (The original CD set is on 4, count 'em, FOUR CDs for a combined total of ca. 280 minutes of recorded time (more like 296)....MORE than enough to fit all the material, some of which was presumably sped up. The funny thing, here, is that, if you never saw the show (and I didn't) you would be likely to believe that you knew, for certain, which parts were sped up (can't name 'em) and how much ( ALOT, one would guess). Judging from the new release, however, one is forced to believe that the parts that WERE sped up must not have been sped up much (1) the new set is on 2 or 3 CDs. (2) There's no obvious difference in the parts that I'd swear HAD to be the sped up parts. They're still there! So, maybe the whole thing was sped up just a little....idunno. Well, anyway, I gotta go. Chris Sampson ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 04 Apr 1994 15:37:59 -0500 (EST) From: "I'll be here, I'll be ecto..." Subject: Update on Happy Cards... Hi all, I hope everyone is having a very nice opening day today. :) It's always a great day when baseball starts again... :) Here is an update on the Happy cards. I got them back from the printer on Thursday, but they made an error. :( They reversed the titles of Rhodes I and Rhodes II, so that their catalog numbers weren't right. As a result, they are reprinting the cards and they gave me the 1000 incorrect cards. I should be getting the corrected cards in the next couple of days. So far, I've gotten two envelopes (Michael P. and one other, who's name escapes me at the moment, sorry). When I start sending out the cards, I'll post again. For anyone who may have missed it, my address is: John Sandoval 9015 Thamesmeade Rd #B Laurel, MD 20723 If you want some of these cards, just send me a SASE. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. Oh, I just wanted to mention that FTE hasn't left my CD player in about 2 weeks... :) Take care, John ======================================================================== Date: 04 Apr 94 15:54:00 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Tam Clarification All right, I've been away from ecto for 10 days and it's going to take me a *long* time to read everything, but it looks like I've already messed up even without being here, so I must make some immediate clarifications and amends: Vickie wrote: |MJM writes: | |> BTW, she thinks both FTE and WIWAB suck. |> (Tam claims Jane has heard her demos and stopped talking to her. |> Feeling threatened? Ooooops... that should been followed by a BIG . | | |Did this come from you or her? If her, she sounds like a decidedly |unpleasant person. If you, saying something like that is *not* the |way to get people interested in someone Mike. Why say it? Already I have biased you against her. Clearly I am not doing a very good job at all. It is *so* easy to get into trouble on the net. I meant it tongue in cheek. Yes, she basically said this, but she said it *very* tongue in cheek. Tam may not like Jane and Sarah's latest (and I think she is entitled to her opinion) but the remark about Jane is just funny speculation and something that could have any number of reasons. Perhaps Jane just forgot to call her back, or got really busy, or just didn't have anything to say one way or the other, or *who* the hell knows what. The funniest hypothesis (Tam has a good sense of humour and so do I :-) is that Jane feels threatened. I am *sure* Jane feels nothing of the sort (even though I've never met her I can only assume she is on many levels happy and satisfied with the success she has had as a recording and performing artist). Tam is anything *but* unpleasant. She alot of fun and quite talented. *please* do not let my misinterpretted remarks prejudice you in any way against Tam or I will be very sad indeed. I should have made the "funniness" of the remark more clear and I will be more careful in the future. |She can like or dislike any music she pleases, but if she's going to |move to Toronto and try to ingratiate herself into the Toronto Music |Mafia, she'd either better tone down her opinions or keep them to |herself, because Jane and Sarah have a *lot* of friends there. Going |around saying that 2 of the greatest albums released by Canadian |women* "sucks" isn't much going to help people think *she's* got much |of an ear for interesting music. Well, she hasn't said they "suck" and to be fair, you will have to take up those differences of opinion with her. I cannot defend her opinions, I can only relay them (and even that appears to be dangerous for her and me... ). Perhaps when you two discuss them you will enlighten each other to things neither had thought of before. I'm share you will share any such insight with the rest of us. |> Who knows. It must have something to do with |> Switzer.) | |Maybe. I really think you could have left out that "feeling threatened" |remark, no matter who it came from. It was a bad attempt at humour and if it offended you or made you think less of Tam I take it back and *implore* you not to form an opinion of Tam before meeting her. *Thank you* |Besides, she has no reason to be anti-Jane even if she is "on Switzer's |side" because John Switzer himself is still friendly with Jane. He was |at the Christmas concert (an obviously *invited* guest) and was as blown |away by it as everybody else was. We met him after the concert and he |was very sweet and friendly. Tam is ***NNOOTT*** anti-Jane or anti-Sarah or anti-anyone. In fact she has the greatest huge *mountain* of respect for Jane in particular and Sarah as well. Again, I did not say she was anti-anyone and if that's the way it sounded I apologize. *Sorry* Blame me, not her. |Vickie (listening to WIWAB, loving every second, and feeling *very* |negative toward this Tam person. Not that she'd care what *I* think, |and not that I care what she thinks) Well, I care, and I feel very bad now that with 4 sentences I have biased you against someone who is not who you think she is. *PLEASE* give Tam a chance and if you insist on being negative towards someone, be negative towards me. I really didn't think my post was implying any of the things you are concluding and at best I think you could be a little less quick to jump to unwarranted conclusions. I will be *way* more careful next time I talk about someone no one knows and who couldn't possibly defend herself on the net (though hopefully she will soon have net access). -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 04 Apr 94 11:52:04 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: PJ Harvey and Bjork >DATE: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 01:00:04 -0300 (EDT) >FROM: Karen Rauch > >Were PJ Harvey and Bjork performing together just for the British Music >Awards or do they perform together often? No, they do not. >By the way, PJ Harvey declined to tour with Lollapalooza this year. Do >you think it's because it has become way too commercial and she has >integrity or because she is working on a new album and knows she can >headline Lollapalooza next summer? >Karen Waahhhh! That would have been a great fit! Dennis Parslow Today I am a small blue thing. Troy, NY 12180 Suzanne Vega p00421@psilink.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:00:05 CDT From: Subject: A mishmash guaranteed to drive the backlogged subscriber nuts :-) WRT Meredith's comments on Sheryl Crow: it apparently will be her lot in life to be likened to Rickie Lee Jones. The Trib's review did it too. WRT October Project: My contribution to the cause of CD shopping this past weekend was to get Kristin Hersh's CD at Sound Warehouse, while it was on sale for $8.99. Best of all, Bonnie Raitt's new one was on sale for $10.99, a buck less than the ad said it was. I lucked out on that one, no? :-) They had one of their new releases headphones playing October Project, and I liked what little I heard. Happily, they have it on sale for the rest of this month. WRT Sarah's video: reminds me of a poster for the Slits I saw in a used rec- ord store window once. I resolved to get that album, but it was out of print. years later, I ran across a Peel Sessions album of theirs, but wasn't that impressed with them. Oh well :-). Someone on folk_music was asking about acoustic women. I wrote her suggesting she check out _Rhodes I_ and _RhodeSongs_. She wrote me back saying she'd check Happy out. I'll leave to MJM the task of posting a similar encomium to f_m as a whole, in case he needs something to get his mind off the Tam brouhaha :-). Like AA, we Happyvangelists do it one day at a time :-). WRT one of Chris' queries: Al "Jazzbo" Collins was a jazz DJ in New York years ago. He wrote the liner notes for Gerry Mulligan's album _Butterfly with Hiccups_. A couple of years ago, Dick Buckley read some of Jazzbo's aforesaid writings on his show, and I was immediately struck by the resemblance to the way I write. I was chagrinned to find out the album was out of print. In memory of Betty Furness. Mitch --------------------------- "If you're sentenced to death, you don't get corporal punishment in addition to that." --A former solicitor general of Singapore, interviewed today on _All Things Considered_ about caning ======================================================================== From: Alain.Lachapelle@167-290-33.hexacom.com (Alain Lachapelle) Date: 03 Apr 94 17:43:28 -0500 Subject: What I listen to... OK, apart from Happy Rhodes, here's what I listen to. In no order whatsoever: Minimum Vital, Xaal, Tiemko, Isildurs Bane, Bruce Cockburn, Ozric Tentacles, Stella Vander, Patrick Gauthier, Eris Pluvia, Richard Pinhas, Richard Seguin, Premiata Forneria Marconi, Pere Ubu, Tom Cochrane, Terreno Baldio, Miriodor, Sugarcubes, RHCP, Noetra, Michel Rivard, Conventum, Kronos Quartet, Ars Nova, Paul Piche, Shriekback, Echolyn, Zappa, Joni Mitchell, Kevin Ayers, and 'many more' as they say. Quite a few of the above-quoted are of recent facture, some are not-so-recent. Alain al@hexacom.com ============================================== ======================================================================== From: Alain.Lachapelle@167-290-33.hexacom.com (Alain Lachapelle) Date: 03 Apr 94 17:45:24 -0500 Subject: Lydia Domancich Bonjour Neile, > May I swipe your info on Lydia Domancich for the a collection fo > review by ectophiles we're putting together? Sure, no prob. If I knew it was to be included somewhere I would have brushed my English a little bit and perhaps I would have written a more lyrical description. For the record (no pun) you may add that the album is 'Too Much Record TMR 302' and is distributed by NTI '(NTI 396).' For this kind of rather rare disc it sometimes help to have this info. Cheers, Alain al@hexacom.com ============================================== ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:44:02 EDT From: justin@campion.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: Bjork or Bjoerk it's standard practice in German to resort to oe for o-umlaut or ae for a-umlaut if you're stuck with a primitive communications medium (PCM) that can't handle diacritical marks. However: this is not an international or even pan-European thing, and Bj"ork isn't German. Or think of Z"urich, largest city in Switzerland; a German speaker with a PCM will write it Zuerich, but try that in Britain, France, or even the French-speaking part of Switzerland and it'll seem rather odd. In those cultures, one drop diacriticals on PCMs. maybe we should pretend we're teletex machines and use ISO 6937/2, an 8-bit character set with floating accents that can therefore spell correctly all European languages that use a Latin-based script. Too bad no known operating systems use it, and no software I've seen except the X.500 Directory! :-) justin p.s. PCM isn't anyone's jargon, I just invented it on the spot. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:49:27 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (throttled by meredith) Subject: ectopics Michael G Peskura sez: >Thanx to the urging of folks like Neile and woj, i have been drawn >into her music and can play "Possession" over and over for hours. if fte is what drew you into sarah's music, are you implying that you didn't like her first two albums or that you hadn't heard her first two albums? "Scott S. Zimmerman" sez: >about a month ago, Don wrote: >> Paul Haynes is a poet who wrote a libretto entitled "Escalator Over The Hill" >> back in the 60's I believe. >Do you (anybody?) know where I can get the words to that piece? although this won't help you get the lyrics, if i'm not mistaken, carla bley recorded a double lp for that piece, no? a year ago or so, noteworthy music had a listing for this but when i ordered it, it was indefinitely out of print. i just checked their latest catalog and it's missing entirely now. i was disappointed by this since i had heard a number of very good things about that release. Philip Sainty sez: >One final thing... how do you people with HugeMusicCollections(tm) >manage to listen to even a fraction of them on a regular basis? after hearing about paul cohen's collection, i don't feel that mine is necessarily big anymore...but it's still larger than most people's. i think i topped 800 in the past few days but i'm not sure. anyways, i don't make it a priority to listen to everything in a set period of time. i'll get the urge to listen to something depending on my mood, the weather, the phase of the moon or even the color of the socks i put on (don't laugh - it happened once!). i buy what i like and what interests me, keep most of it and listen to whatever i'm moved to. Sam Warren sez: >Recently there was some debate here about Tori live vs. Tori on CD. To add my >voice to the throng, I loved seeing her live, but she played every song so >slowly, I longed for a change of tempo. interesting comment. one of the "complaints" i had on her first tour was that she treated a lot of the song rhythms like taffy. while i'm not particularly attached to fixed rhythms, i did think that her songs suffer when she stretchs and contracts them like she did. i was also at the nyc show and was pleased that she didn't do that as much. i haven't really sorted out what i thought of that show but i will say that i was less enthralled this time than last. most of the blame, honestly, falls on the shoulders of the audience. they weren't rude or disrespectful by any means...but they were overenthusiastic to the point of distraction. in short, they were a "true" rock concert audience. i guess i just don't think that is the best audience for one of tori's performances. i must admit that i'm disappointed that she is sticking with the woman-and-piano thing. yes, it's effective, but i think that she could stand to gain a new dimension to her live performances with a band backing her up. gmcdonald@zdi.ziff.com (glenn mcdonald) sez: >- Icicle Works; BBC Live in Concert: Wow. eep! i'll have to keep my eyes open for this one! i'll never forgive what'shisname for releasing _blind_ (which i thought was terrible except for one track the name of which i've completely forgotten now - and i don't have a copy of it anymore to check either) but the thught of "evangaline" live is enough to make my mouth water! >- Proclaimers; This is the Story, Hit the Highway: Ever wonder how many >other songs as good as "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)" the Proclaimers have? >Well, none, but not many other bands have *any* that good, so you shouldn't >hold that against them. huh. i *really* like _this is the story_. i always got a kick out of how they looked like my dad when he was about 25 years old. anyways, if you haven't completely given up on the proclaimers, pick up a couple of their early 12" singles - the b-sides are incredible. one in particular comes to mind: a live performance in some scottish bar that sounds like a brawl broke out in the middle of the song! >- Loreena McKennitt; The Mask and the Mirror: Clannad for the foreground. i've listened to this a few times now and it's yet to stick in my brain yet. i like the direction that she is heading (a fusion of her celtic roots with other ethnic traditions) but i don't think it goes far enough. >- The Chameleons; Free Trade Hall Rehearsal: Why do I keep buying these >Chameleons pseudo-bootlegs? probably for the same reasons i do. ;) sam@swanson.com (Sam Murgie) sez: >i definitely associate some music with spring/summer. in particular >i will listen to more "fun" music during this time of year. i tend to listen to louder music in the spring. for instance, this afternoon whilst driving home from work, a tape of american indie rock was blasting out the windows. and if this good weather in the northeast holds a little longer, the ceremonial turning-off-of-the-heat, accompanied by, usually, _the golden age of wireless_, will take place as well! >i practically only listen to donnie iris in my car with my sunroof open >on hot summer days. ah-li-li! hear we go again! (blast from the past. whoa.) Suspended In Duct Tape sez: >> Jennifer Warnes - Famous Blue Raincoat >Yay! I bought this one a while ago, after I kept hearing "First We Take ahem. *who* bought that one? ;) > well, if i'm dead, i can't give you the ticket for the suny purchase show, can i? ;) i'm listening to the moon seven times' _7=49_ right now and boy does it sound great turned way up! (that would be a high tiu factor, Mp). +woj (stuffed on easter candy) ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)