Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #221 ecto, Number 221 Tuesday, 21 April 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Phluph (tm) (heh heh heh) Gaffa gone? Jah Wobble Notes from underground by *any* other name... hee! no more missing digests Margie and Annie tori amos @ the bottom line ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 11:00:07 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Phluph (tm) (heh heh heh) Doug yodels from mountains high: > I can send you a FAQ if you wish, or you can wait for the spiffy > brand new shiny FAQ which should be posted Real Soon Now! :) yep, it will <*bam*bang*bam*> be ready any <*saw*saw*saw*saw*> day now <*driiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiill*> , yep, ANY day <*look out*CRASH*> now... footah! <*scrap*a*scrap*a*scrap*> -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- <*oops*well, just paint over it...*> ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 10:11:07 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Subject: Gaffa gone? Hey, not too change the subject, but I haven't received a love hounds digest in almost a week. Is anyone else out there experiencing this? -mjm (stern@stella.chem.nwu.edu) ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 11:26:23 EDT From: David N. Blank-Edelman Subject: Jah Wobble Howdy- Someone mentioned Jah Wobble a few messages back. Just saw an add for the album, can someone fill me in on details? Thanks. Peace, dNb ======================================================================== Date: 21 April 1992 10:36:27 CDT From: Subject: Notes from underground I talked to Vickie yesterday. I found her in good humor during this per- iod of situational exile, and while I didn't take the matter up with her, I believe that she would enjoy hearing from you via the telephone or snailmail. Meredith, you have my categorical blessing to use my sandwich board for whatever that application was that you mentioned (what does that kind of file do, anyway?). Like everyone else says, birthday greetings to Harry. +----------------------------------------------+ | Mitchell A. Pravatiner | | +++ | | "If God had meant for man to fly, he wouldn't | | have given us the railroads"--Michael Flanders | | +++ | | U38373@uicvm.uic.edu | +----------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 17:17 GMT From: Merow!! merow everyone... ues..the cat is back but without the hat... had a GREAT time wandering all over Britian with my mom... more time to write about that later... just wondering what all i missed since i have been gone ... Andrew (my SO) has been keeping my quota down by deleting alot of messages.. any personal messages that arent answered soon..please re send or re write.. havbent seen a review or a mention of the Tori Amos concert that Stephen and i made when we met in London..couldnt believe my luck!!!! anyway..more later when mom leaves.. Kiri sis..send me a personal letter to DALLAS so that i have your address to send back to!!! otherwise i am stuck!!!!, dying to hear the news!!! got a bit of my own for ya sis!! mew mew mew!! yeah on Cornell..might be wise to stay up North after all..but more later... see everyone later... mew mew!! personal after party mews to Klaus, Claudia, Chip and Michelle, and Albert! god my typing is bad..havent typed in weeks!! AUGHHHHH! mew! Courtney!! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 14:04:08 EDT From: jessica Subject: [Postmaster@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (Mail Delivery Subsystem): *sigh* I agree 100%. Our server machines have the *worst* names. ns1, wp1, dorm (dorm project pmachine), rudy (rutgers university delivers to you) (I ASSURE YOU - *noone* in my department had anything to do with that name, and we even gave the machine another name BobWebber (it's the news server, if you know who Bob Webber is, you'll understand :), and hardees. hardees is the oldest and i'm sure keeps the name just for historical purposes. The clients however, have interesting names: babaye.rutgers.edu, marsenius.rutgers.edu, bailly.rutgers.edu, picolomini.rutgers.edu, aristotles.rutgers.edu, plinius.rutgers.edu, ptolemaeus.rutgers.edu, theophilus.rutgers.edu, theaetetus.rutgers.edu, democritus.rutgers.edu, hercules.rutgers.edu, cyrillus.rutgers.edu, gambart.rutgers.edu, crozier.rutgers.edu, grimaldi.rutgers.edu, calippus.rutgers.edu, maurolycus.rutgers.edu, aristarchus.rutgers.edu, xoanon.rutgers.edu, playfair.rutgers.edu. I guess most, if not all, are moon craters. xoanon might not be. Anyway, I'm; afraid we can't use any of them, 'cause they all use hardees for mail processing, and since hardees is the server for all of them, we can't afford to have it using it's cpu to deal with mail. I will, however, look into having a cname (a nickname) created. ecto isn't my first choice, only 'cause my workstation will one day be named ecto, and it's mail server will be hardees, etc.. :) So.. if i were to intsall a nickname for ns1, what would you want it to be? On to better topics! I caught most of the tribute concert - annie lennox was indeed *much* better than on SNL. I *loved* her skirt!!!! I want one like that.. joe says it won't fit in our apartment, and i guess he's right :) george michael really had the best vocal performance, i think. He's got a lot of control and can really give a consistently good performance. david bowie looked really good. For a while there, I dind't think he looked too healthy. It was good to see him looking better. I wasn't too thrilled by lisa stansfield or lisa minelli - KaTe should have been there (very seriously!). jessica ps: I wrote the WPRB manager-person (who turns out to be on the net) and told him i tihnk the station is great but they need a specialty show of music by women (I specified *not* neccessarily "womyn's" music). I even said i'd do the show. eek. || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 14:29:37 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: by *any* other name... jessica inquires (inspires :) (in tires?) > So.. if i were to install a nickname for ns1, what would you want it > to be? so, ecto is out, and Klaus got phobos... soooo, lessee... "terra_incognita" has a lovely ring, but it is a bit long... "wretches" and "drears" are, mm, a bit morbid... and what's the opposite... why, "happy", of course! why not? second choice would be "warpaint" footah@footah.fth -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "i want to feel you in the dark, babe" -- HR ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Re: by *any* other name. Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 14:49:07 EDT Greg says: >and what's the opposite... why, "happy", of course! >why not? well don't you think that ecto@happy.rutgers.edu is a little twisted? it should be happy@ecto.rutgers.edu. :) but seriously... >second choice would be "warpaint" awww come on: ecto@warpaint.rutgers.edu ????? I suggest ecto@cooler.rutgers.edu or ecto@ecchto.rutgers.edu :) OR ecto@mobile.rutgers.edu (to commemorate philly) OR ecto@plasm.rutgers.edu. back to work so i can go see tribe tonight angelos ================================================================= |Don't try to tell me there's no varnish left to cover the pine// | In this kitchen of mine// {not | Those years left lines and scratches on the shelves// happy | We need some more paint// rhodes} |==========================================================// More Paint ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 15:01:39 EDT From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu Subject: hee! I like ecto@cooler hehehehahahah ahem i'm scanning pictures, scan scan scan la de da de da de dum. I hope they come out nciely so you can see them jessica ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 15:25:58 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: by *any* other name. Angelos is a genius: > I suggest ecto@cooler.rutgers.edu or ecto@ecchto.rutgers.edu :) > > OR ecto@mobile.rutgers.edu (to commemorate philly) OR but my absolute favorite is: > ecto@plasm.rutgers.edu on a scale from one to ten, i rate that a footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "i want to feel you in the dark, babe" -- HR ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 15:30:14 PDT From: barry@gnu.ai.mit.edu I like ecto@cooler too! :) (The official drink of ectophiles! ) Hey jessica, what pictures are you scanning in? Hey what ecto projects are going on now? We've got the ectozine which greg is working on, anything else? Barry ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 15:58:14 EDT From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu Subject: no more missing digests never mind!! i found me digests that had been hiding.. they are in the archives now:) jessica ======================================================================== Date: 21-APR-1992 17:00:20.91 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Margie and Annie Hi! Mitch returns from the watery depths that are Chicago: > Meredith's replies to others' exegeses of assorted music reminded me of >her account last week of Margie Adam's concert, in which she opined that >coupling her performing with Tanita Tikaram's writing would yield a better >end product that either could alone. I feel constrained to register a mild >dissent from Meredith's view of Adam as a writer. While I am not intimately >familiar with Adam's full discography, or familiar at all with her concert >performances, she did come out with an album called _Songwriter_, or something >similar, in the mid-'70's. I thought then, and still do, that the quality of >writing on that album was quite good. While her lyrics weren't _quite_ the >intellectual feast that we have come to expect from Happy _et al._, they were >nonetheless quite pleasing, avoiding both the high concept that oversaturates >mass-marketed music, and the polemicism that often turns up in the so-called >Womens' Music. The tunes are likewise quite pleasing. If Adam's writing >skills have deteriorated in the last 16 years or so, this is indeed cause >for dismay. Well, now that I think about it, the stuff that I found the worst was the stuff she said she had written recently. Apparently she spent 7 years away from music, taking lessons now and then and going to school and working and such, and a year and a half ago she started writing again. The stuff of hers I found the easiest to take was obviously the older material, since people went particularly nuts when she got to it. I'd have to surmise that, yes, her songwriting has gone considerably downhill in the past 16 years, but maybe I'm wrong to base that assumption on just one concert exposure... Steve informs: >Yes. The Eurythmics as a group is no more. Really? Last I heard, in an interview with Annie a year ago, Eurythmics as a band is being put on hold while Annie does the solo thing and David Stewart does his Spiritual Cowboy thing. They will get back together as soon as they have the time and the energy to deal with each other enough to get another album out. But this was a while ago, maybe they've changed their minds. I guess it's a good thing I missed her performance on SNL. I really want to hear the album, and see if it's as disappointing as people seem to think it is. I count Annie Lennox way up there on my list of Favorite Vocalists, right below Kate, Happy, and Natalie Merchant- I hope _Diva_ doesn't disappoint me, too. It's always amazed me how Eurythmics even managed to get two albums out, considering the personal saga between Annie and Dave and what a schmuck rumor says he is. I guess the friction put added energy into their output, but it seems a bit extreme to me, to keep on working with the guy who's screwed you over. But then again, "You Hurt Me (And I Hate You)" wouldn't be half as powerful otherwise. It's the give-and-take sort of thing. :) System's shutting down...gotta go... ====================================================================== |Meredith Tarr "Get to the point you sappy wimps| |Wesleyan University I haven't got a lifetime | |Middletown, CT Simplicity is beauty | |USA, Earth Are there poets less sublime?" | |mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu -Happy Rhodes | ====================================================================== ======================================================================== From: kIrI Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1992 17:27:14 EDT Subject: Re: Margie and Annie On Apr 21, 5:00pm, MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu wrote: } } I guess it's a good thing I missed her performance on SNL. I really want to } hear the album, and see if it's as disappointing as people seem to think it is. You should be glad you did. I have to agree with Angelos...Annie was less than perfect...in fact my roomie and I (who both love Eurthymics gak) thought Annie just plain sucked. We sat there hardly believing it was her singing, it was drab, and lifeless. I think the problem is is that she just picked the wrong type of music to do solo work. I would like to hope that the album is better, but Im scared to try :) on a Happy note, im kicking myself for not getting tapes off to y'all for concert dubs....im going through this kind of concert flashback phase thinking all too much about the new songs and how long it's going to be before they come out on disc. kIrI {sorry this is coming to ya twice Meredith, but my mailer keeps burping at me} :-{ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Black room mirror echoes hargieka@craft.camp.clarkson.edu< > Warm blood tickles ebony lips Kirstin A. Hargie (kIrI)< > tear the cracking bone asunder "Just another 20-something< > set to grovel screams Gothic." < > fire whips < ----------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 17:39:50 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: tori amos @ the bottom line i managed to get tickets to tori amos' late performance at the bottom line in manhattan last night. the early show had sold out about three weeks ago, or so i was told when i picked up tickets a couple weeks ago. as others have posted, it is her and her piano, alone for an hour or so. and as others have posted as well, her performance is just plain wonderful. fueled by anger and passion, she sings her heart out, somehow managing to exceed the sheer force and emotion that is present on the album. ignore the emptv hype and just listen to her voice and lyrics. for once in the music industry, some- thing worthwhile is getting pushed. take advantage of it. do not miss this show if you can help it... woj ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)