From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #354 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, December 12 2001 Volume 07 : Number 354 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Lynn Miles [Sherlyn Koo ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] tanya and heather [anna maria "stjärnell" ] Re: Lynn Miles [Ellen Rawson ] 'I like them till' they become popular..' ["Shelly DeForte" ] Susan Court - Kat [JavaHo@aol.com] Susan McKeown tomorrow night [Philip David Morgan ] Fwd: Re: SW to appear on Midnight Special [meredith ] New Rufus Wainwright track [Gabriel Laverdiere ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:54:15 -0800 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: Re: Lynn Miles Hey folks, Neal said, re Lynn Miles: >I'm sorry to have waited so long to listen to her stuff. I suspect >lot's of other folks will be just as enamoured when they finally hear >it. Yeah! That's what you all get for not listening to me sooner. :) Now you should all go and listen to Andrea Koziol (www.andreakoziol.com). Or if you're in the mood for stripped-down acoustic folk, check out Jeffrey Foucault (www.jeffreyfoucault.com - have a listen to "Secretariat" under the "Miles From the Lightning" section.). BTW I definitely recommend Neal and Jeff's house concert series. They've got great snacks! I still can't believe that I was the first ever ectophile to attend one of their shows though - it seems highly implausible... :) sherlyn - -- Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au "It really is that simple, It really is that fragile." - Peter Mulvey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:00:10 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ************** Jeremy J. Corry (jcorry@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu) ************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jeremy J. Corry Fri December 11 1970 Sagittarius Renee Canada Tue December 13 1977 Sagittarius Julie C. Kammerzell Sun December 15 1968 Sagittarius/Scorpio combo Gloria Jackson-Nefertiti Sat December 15 1956 queen_nefertiti@prodigy.net Damon Harper Tue December 16 1975 COOL BANANAS Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Milla Wed December 17 1975 Sagittarius Chris Schernwetter Tue December 17 1974 Sagittarius Sherry Haddock Sat December 17 1960 Sagittarius Tracy Benbrook Tue December 18 1973 Sagittarius Mark Lowry Mon December 22 1969 Capricarius Kay Cleaves Wed December 22 1976 Prancing Pony Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Joseph Wasicek Sat December 25 1976 Brown Eagle Stuart Castergine Mon December 30 1963 You Are Here Marvin Camras Sat January 01 1916 Tapehead Jeanne Schreiter Tue January 03 1967 Capricorn John Sandoval Wed January 04 1967 Capricorn Paul Cohen Tue January 05 1954 Capricorn Tony Garrity Mon January 08 1962 Pool of Life Greg Bossert Tue January 09 1962 OfTheTimes - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 02:03:26 -0800 (PST) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: tanya and heather Hi. First, the new Tanya Donelly ep is gorgeous. The voice is still lovely and the music sumptous. Last rain is my fave with its tale of millenial madness. Should be a good album. Heather Nova's latest doesnt seem very promsing to me. The last two she made weren't so good. Also Bryan Adams plays on it. Maybe I'm wrong. Anna Maria np-tanya donelly-sleepwalk(ep) Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:49:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: Lynn Miles For those in the UK, Lynn should be returning this way in the spring. She played a show last month at the Borderline in London with Bill Morrissey. (He opened for her.) It was quite easy to speak with both of them afterwards since there were only about 50 (the place holds 250) people there. It was a small turnout on a Sunday night, but she's determined to come back in a few months -- or at least she hopes to do so. Seeing Lucy Kaplansky on Wednesday at the Spitz in London. Ellen ===== "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:23:59 -0800 From: "Shelly DeForte" Subject: 'I like them till' they become popular..' All this talk about Heather Nova has got me thinking about something someone said at work the other day. We were listening to some rambunctiously raw country/folk album (don't know what) and he said 'you know, I like a lot of musicians before they become popular'.. or something like that. And I started thinking, me too. And isn't that somewhat of an ecto phenomenom? I started wondering why. Am I a snob? I do tend to get annoyed with anything that's massivly popular (and I'm sure the Harry Potter books are great :P). But my theory is that it has more to do with money than popularity. A musician without money is sometimes a musician who cannot create what they really want to create, and therefore must get very creative trying to work around their limitations. If you give someone unlimited funds and resources and say 'create what you hear in your head', you are only getting what someone can imagine. But if you give someone limited resources and say 'create what you hear in your head'.. you cannot get what that person hears in their head, but you get something completely different. Something I daresay took a lot more creativity to create. Just thinkin', - - Shelly - ---------------------------------------------- Shelly DeForte Web Design shelly@cybermagician.com Web Tools http://www.cybermagician.com Programming ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:14:02 EST From: RocketsTail@aol.com Subject: Sheila Nicholls new stuff So I pulled out my copy of the brilliant "Brief Strop" and rememebered how much I love Sheila and this cd, so I got online to see what she's been up to. On her website you can listen to three new songs from her upcoming cd (due 2002 sometime)...well, the inevitable happened...the "sheila and the piano" is gone and replaced with lots of instruments and production effects, her vocals don't sound as strong hence taking away from the songwriting and the songs in general. I'm still kinda looking forward to new stuff from her but these "samples" aren't making me as anxious. ugh. -eric http://hollywoodrecords.go.com/sheilanicholls/ "i think, I could like you if you'd let me drive your car" ~throwing muses ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:14:29 -0800 From: Phil Hudson Subject: RE: 'I like them till' they become popular..' I dunno, Shel, you bring up a very good point, but I still can't help wondering what Happy would come up with, given the resources and recognition that her work deserves. The compromises inherent in working with limited resources can indeed bring forth some really great serendipitous and unexpected results. However, if you take an example of say, Peter Gabriel, who was going flat broke before he released "So", which then exposed him to a much broader audience, you'll see that he took the cash, built his own mega-studio, and proceeded to release some of his finest work, vis: "Passion", in the process helping to popularize musicians and styles from many other cultures. He could never have achieved this work with the limited resources he was working with before "Sledghammer" made him rich enough to follow that particular muse. I think maybe your point has more to do with the fact that many who have achieved a good measure of financial success ( from popular appeal) are strongly encouraged to maintain that momentum, sometimes having to include material that will reach a broader audience, when they would perhaps rather be still following their own personal muse, whereas those who have not hit the broad market are less inclined, and often encouraged by their existing fan base, to maintain the relative purity of their musical "status quo". If anyone has a couple of spare $million$ lying around and would like to put this theory to the test, I will be happy to be the guinea pig and provide the 'before and after' results. Phil I don't think - -----Original Message----- From: Shelly DeForte [mailto:shelly@cybermagician.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:24 AM To: ecto Subject: 'I like them till' they become popular..' All this talk about Heather Nova has got me thinking about something someone said at work the other day. We were listening to some rambunctiously raw country/folk album (don't know what) and he said 'you know, I like a lot of musicians before they become popular'.. or something like that. And I started thinking, me too. And isn't that somewhat of an ecto phenomenom? I started wondering why. Am I a snob? I do tend to get annoyed with anything that's massivly popular (and I'm sure the Harry Potter books are great :P). But my theory is that it has more to do with money than popularity. A musician without money is sometimes a musician who cannot create what they really want to create, and therefore must get very creative trying to work around their limitations. If you give someone unlimited funds and resources and say 'create what you hear in your head', you are only getting what someone can imagine. But if you give someone limited resources and say 'create what you hear in your head'.. you cannot get what that person hears in their head, but you get something completely different. Something I daresay took a lot more creativity to create. Just thinkin', - - Shelly - ---------------------------------------------- Shelly DeForte Web Design shelly@cybermagician.com Web Tools http://www.cybermagician.com Programming ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:16:58 EST From: RocketsTail@aol.com Subject: Re: Sheila Nicholls new stuff I found the problem: Glen Ballard is producing her new cd. Great. lol. -eric "i think, I could like you if you'd let me drive your car" ~throwing muses ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:50:41 -0800 (PST) From: kitty kat Subject: Re: Replacement Happy CDs? Thanks to everyone who suggested auntiesocial - I had seen a message run through ecto a bit back that said "for a limited time only - MWABT", and somehow got it stuck in my head that was the only CD they carried. I can re-complete my Happy collection now! - -K On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 FAMarcus@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/10/01 8:05:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, kat@vaxer.net > writes: > > > > What would people's advice be as to where I could get copies of > > RhodeSongs, Rhodes II, and Building the Colossus? > > a friend that i turned on to happy just bought 8 of her cd's on the > auntiesocial site. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:44:37 EST From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Susan Court - Kat < Subject: Replacement Happy CDs? While I was at the mall in the middle of the day yesterday, someone broke into my trunk and stole my CD Changer. Happy Holidays.... *bleh* I think they were just randomly popping trunks and hoping for people's Christmas Shopping. I lost my Susan Court CD, ...- -Grumpy Kat>> Kat...look no further. I have Susan Court, and it really isn't my cup of tea. You're welcome to it. E-mail me your address and it's on its way. Ho Ho Ho!!! From JavaHO Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:22:20 -0500 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Susan McKeown tomorrow night Good Evening, Ectofolk: Is there anyone on the listing hoping to see Susan McKeown at Joe's Pub in NYC (425 Lafayette) tomorrow night? If so, look for me. I'llbe sporting a blue beret cap and a cloth bag. I may also be a little fatigued, as I'll be coming directly from Elisabeth Von Trapp's "rush-hour" holiday concert at St. Agnes' Church (143 East 43rd Street) earlier that evening (a one hour affair, from 6:30 to 7:30 p.m. Eastern). Two of my fave singers in one night. Lucky or...? Philip David 12/10/2001 - -- The Polly Stephanson Project - now paid for (like we had a real choice?) http://www.pollyarts.f2s.com/ - -- "Now go back and finish your oatmeal." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:36:25 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: HEATHER NOVA OK, I'm sorry; I rarely do a follow-up (tastes too much like sniping, which I do not intend it to be!) but I will succumb this one time: >Irvin dissented: > >>this is belated belated, but am the only one that likes SOUTH? > >Apparently. I guess I'll have to go on record as saying that I like the songs a lot, but not the production (or much of it). Does that count? :-) >>granted it may be an anomaly, but that happens to be why i like it. >>i never really like what i have heard by her. true, my experience >>with HEATHER NOVA isn't all that extensive, but after hearing her >>first semi-hit here in this states (WALK THIS >>WORLD) i found and picked up OYSTER in the used bin for $5. for me, >>it just didn't do much for me. overproduced rock/pop, with >>relatively nonmemorable songs. > >If "Walk This World" were my first taste of Heather Nova's music, I >wouldn't have become a fan of hers, either. To me, _Oyster_ marks >the start of her descent . Fortunately, the first thing I heard of >hers was _Live At The Milky Way_, followed by _Blow_, her first two >live European releases. (_Glowstars_ was in there too, but I never >listened to it much because the studio versions of the songs weren't >very interesting compared to the kickass live ones on _Blow_.) IMHO _Oyster_ has 12 of Heather's all-time best songs on it. "Walk This World" is probably the weakest tune, but there exist "kickass live ones", i.e. performances, of every song on that album. The version of "Heal" from one of her promo EPs just slays me. Likewise a beautiful acoustic performance of "Truth And Bone" from an unrelated single. But, yes, _Oyster_ is waaaay overproduced. _Glow Stars_ is worth hearing for the beauty of its minimalist production alone; but I think most of the performances hold up quite well. >>i never picked up BLOW or any other live HN album because i guess i >>was turned off by OYSTER. > >You really really really should experience her live, either on CD or >(better yet) in person. Then you'll know what her fans have been >going on about. 100% agree; _Blow_, _Live at the Milky Way_, _Wonderlust_, and any of the live EPs or promo singles contain absolute must-hear musical experiences. The live version of "Sugar" she's been delivering, with Berit Fridahl on lead guitar is stunning, and Heather ain't bad on guitar herself. :-). I will refrain from making songwriter comparisons, which only tend to irritate and stir people up :-) But I still admire Heather's lyrics, even on the latest album. - -- | Greg Dunn | | | gregdunn@indy.net | "Who is Number One?" | | The Sultan of Slack(tm) | | | http://www.indy.net/~gregdunn/ | Patrick McGoohan | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:44:24 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Fwd: Re: SW to appear on Midnight Special For the Susan Werner fans who aren't on the believers list ... >>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:08:39 -0600 >>Subject: [FOLKDJ-L] WFMT Celebrates 50th birthday with live >> broadcast/webcast >> >>This Thursday, December 13, WFMT, Chicago celebrates its 50th anniversary >>with an entire day of live music. As part of that, the first ever Thursday >>"Midnight Special" will air from about 9:10 PM until 12:30 AM with all live >>talent from our studio. Included are Michael Smith (and Weavermania), Megon >>McDonough, Small Potatoes, Ed Trickett, Joe Hickerson, Ed Holstein, Fred >>Holstein, Lee Murdock, and many more, plus a special guest appearance by >>Susan Werner. >> >>The reason I'm posting this is that the event will be streamed live by >>Yahoo! Radio, and probably archived the following week. You can follow the >>links from our website, or simply go to Yahoo! Radio on-line and search for >>WFMT. >> >>Rich ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:10:10 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Laverdiere Subject: New Rufus Wainwright track My favourite jolly hotty Rufus Wainwright will record a Neil Young song for an upcoming tribute album. Read details here: http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2001/12/1002.cfm ______________________________________________________ E-mail gratuit - Multimania - http://www.multimania.fr ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #354 **************************