From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #302 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, October 23 2001 Volume 07 : Number 302 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] hannah fury ["Karen Hester" ] beestung - Kristin Hersh/Muses ["Karen Hester" ] Re: Cowboy Junkies/Over The Rhine - European tour [Yngve Hauge ] Eudora ["Xenu's Sister" ] Re: OT - Eudora ["Bill" ] Re: OT - Eudora, was: David Kitt, etc. [Jeff Wasilko ] Lynn Canfield [afries@zip.com.au] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 03:00:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ***************** Suzanne DeCory (belewgirl@hotmail.com) ****************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Suzanne DeCory Tue October 22 1968 Balancing Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Tara MacLean Thu October 25 1973 Scorpio Elin Sjoelie Fri October 25 1974 Scorpio Jessica Koeppel Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Kathy Clark Sat November 01 1969 Bunnies Katie Dougiamas Sat November 02 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 04 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 05 1962 Scorpio Anna Pryde Wed November 05 1975 Scorpio Sun; Sagittarius Moon; Pisces Rising Jens Brage Sun November 08 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett Sat November 08 1958 Scorpio Sam Murgie Fri November 08 1957 Scorpio Rachel Kramer Bussel Mon November 10 1975 Scorpio Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Michael Doyle Wed November 12 1969 Scorpio Marla Tiara Tue November 13 1973 Scorpio Dave Cook Mon November 15 1971 Scorpio Jeff Pearce November 16 Orpheus Naama Avramzon Mon November 18 1974 Scorpio Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:19:55 +1300 From: "Karen Hester" Subject: hannah fury Hannah Fury's music is like a liquid form of the darkest rose, one starting to mottle and smell a little too sweet. She has a waver in her voice like a ghost flickering in and out of vision or a slightly mad elderly aunt tipsy on absinthe, and the piano is gorgeous, but after a couple weeks with her album 'The thing that feels', charmingly packaged single 'Meathook' and ep 'Soul poison', I'm realising that I now find it hard to listen to such sad and gothic music. The most difficult song for me is 'The last piece of cake', which seems to be about a mother and her surprise that someone would want to hurt her, 'least of all her daughter'. It reminds me of the chilling murder which ends the movie "Heavenly Creatures", one of the most heartbreaking deaths on film to me. The mother in the song, though slipping in the mud whilst her betrayer flees, is still so full of love for her daughter ("Please let me believe that she is happy, and safe, and warm, and smiling, eating apples and the last piece of cake."). "Idaho" is interesting as a musically violet gothic song set in a scorched brown landscape, with a traveller's frightened and increasingly hopeless questioning of their destination ("what if the sky in Idaho is black and dark?"). I hear "Eat the dirt" as the hungry end of her journey as it follows "Idaho" on the ep, but it is more likely about a different character what with all the blood drinking :) The songs based on "Wicked: The life and times of the wicked witch of the west" remind me of how miserable I became reading that book with the growing alienation of the dear green skinned girl, once passionate revolutionary, later hurting monkeys with her experiments. For those with darker temperaments, enjoyable Victoriana and sound samples at http://www.mellowtraumatic.com/recordings.html , available from www.cdbaby.com (yey cd supplier that will send sans cd cases!) Karen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:30:17 +1300 From: "Karen Hester" Subject: beestung - Kristin Hersh/Muses The lovely www.beestung.com with lots of Throwing Muses and Kristin Hersh concerts might be disappearing soon. With mp3s of recordings back to the mid 80s, out of print stuff and live, including good quality radio shows like the Black Sessions and many British shows, it has been a great resource. Also has Tanya Donelly and Belly stuff, but not so much and the sound quality of some of that is lower. Of course, pay for yer Works in Progress mp3s from www.throwingmusic.com first :) And look out for those two 'bootlegs' being sold at Kristin Hersh shows. But if, like me, you want more, beestung is luverly and will be missed. (ps - I like the Vic Chesnut cover Kristin does on that Sweet Relief cd that you just bought, adam k - she plays it lots live too. I'm not a compilations fan but I enjoyed much of that cd back when I listened to it a few times.) Karen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:29:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Cowboy Junkies/Over The Rhine - European tour On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Elin Sjoelie wrote: > On 17 Oct 2001, at 19:36, neal copperman wrote: > > > Nov 03 Oslo, Norway, Beton > > Funny. I live in Oslo, but have never heard of this place... Heh. > Probably should be Betong cause Beton doesn't exist at least :) I wish I could be there though. I'll see if I can afford it ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:51:09 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: OT - Eudora, was: David Kitt, etc. on 21/10/01 adamk@zoom.co.uk wrote: >Lastly, and completely off-topic, I have recently switched to Eudora as an >e-mail package, and have no idea how this will effect my postings. Any >feedback and opinions on Eudora vs Outlook will be appreciated, bearing in >mind I have the technical savvy of a brick. Any step away from Microsoft software is a step in the right direction :) Never mind the ideology, you've done the right thing simply because Outlook is one huge gaping security hole in your system just begging to be exploited. I never allowed Outlook anywhere near me and for my reward I got to watch Melissa, Kournikova and countless other viruses doing the rounds on the net simply pass me by without ever affecting me in the slightest. As for Eudora, it's a solid program, but I find their concept of "adware" difficult to stomach. Of course you could always buy the ad-free version, but who wants to pay 40 bucks for e-mail program? My favourite in Windows world has to be Pegasus Mail: long-established, stable, powerful and safe, free from both Eudora's ads and Outlook's "features", it's likely to be my first choice as long as it's around. np: The Moon Seven Times, "Sunburnt".. and wondering what is Lynn Canfield up to these days?... - ---------------------------------------------------- "People who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable." - ---------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:11:17 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Eudora At 12:55 PM 10/21/2001 +0100, Adam wrote: >Lastly, and completely off-topic, I have recently switched to Eudora as an >e-mail package, and have no idea how this will effect my postings. Any >feedback and opinions on Eudora vs Outlook will be appreciated, bearing in >mind I have the technical savvy of a brick. Hi Adam! I've used Eudora for years and have never had any problems with the program itself, just when our last DSL provider, Telocity, required that you send a mail to Telocity before sending a mail out to the world. (Long story, but we never switched over to using Telocity's mail, we kept our regular ISP, Enteract, for mail, and Telocity didn't like it. It thought that it should be getting a mail marked vickie@telocity.com and couldn't figure out why it was seeing vickie@enteract.com, and assumed it was SPAM.) Apparently Outlook is more easily configurable when it comes to weirdness like that. I ended up getting a Yahoo account for sending mail, and used it for months. I still use it quite often. Telocity went belly up so we went with Sprint ION DSL and I haven't had a problem sending or receiving mail in Eudora. (Sucks that Sprint ION has now gone belly up and we'll be cut off any day now. I don't know what we'll do yet.) Anyway, Eudora has been good to me, so I paid for it, and never see any ads. The one thing it's really bad at is searching. The search function of Eudora is and always has been quite brain-damaged. I can live with it. I have it configured and customized to within an inch of its life, and have about a million filters and folders. Still, I have a live-in geek who comes running whenever I whine about something going wrong, and assume that it's actually a Windows or, as above, an outside problem (I bet my techy brick is thicker than yours!) so I won't give you malarkey about it being an easy, non-techno-savvy-friendly program. I have no idea because I don't have to deal with it if it does muck up. I know one thing though, I've never heard of a virus that targeted Eudora users! Good luck! Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:23:22 -0700 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: OT - Eudora After much searching for the "right" e-mail client, I have been using SouthSoft's PMMail 98 for a couple of years. It is not my nirvana, as it does have a few annoying quirks and technical shortcomings; but, overall, it has worked well for me. There is now a PMMail 2000 out, now published by Blueprint Software Works, which I have yet to try out (www.pmmail2000.com). - - Bill G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:24:30 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: OT - Eudora, was: David Kitt, etc. On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 08:51:09PM +1000, Andrew Fries wrote: > on 21/10/01 adamk@zoom.co.uk wrote: > > >Lastly, and completely off-topic, I have recently switched to Eudora as an > >e-mail package, and have no idea how this will effect my postings. Any > >feedback and opinions on Eudora vs Outlook will be appreciated, bearing in > >mind I have the technical savvy of a brick. > > Any step away from Microsoft software is a step in the right direction :) > Never mind the ideology, you've done the right thing simply because > Outlook is one huge gaping security hole in your system just begging to > be exploited. I never allowed Outlook anywhere near me and for my reward > I got to watch Melissa, Kournikova and countless other viruses doing the > rounds on the net simply pass me by without ever affecting me in the > slightest. > As for Eudora, it's a solid program, but I find their concept of "adware" > difficult to stomach. Of course you could always buy the ad-free version, > but who wants to pay 40 bucks for e-mail program? > "features", it's likely to be my first choice as long as it's around. You could always use the 'Free' version, which is the same as the old 'Lite' Eudora. Turning on ads gives you all the features of the paid version, without paying for it. > np: The Moon Seven Times, "Sunburnt".. and wondering what is Lynn > Canfield up to these days?... Did you know about Shotgun Wedding? It was Lynn's latest project. http://www.prairienet.org/shotgunwedding/ If not, pick up their CD ASAP. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:30:55 +1000 From: afries@zip.com.au Subject: Lynn Canfield On 22 Oct 2001, at 13:24, Jeff Wasilko wrote: > Did you know about Shotgun Wedding? It was Lynn's latest project. > http://www.prairienet.org/shotgunwedding/ Yes, I've been enjoying their CD since it was released, and I love it. But it is my understanding Shotgun Wedding is now defunct as well, and in fact has been for a while. That's why I'm kind of hoping Lynn will emerge with a new project soon - she has one of those voices I just can't get enough of! > If not, pick up their CD ASAP. I second that recommendation! Grab it if you still can - this is a great CD that I suspect will become a rarity soon, if it isn't already. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Directed denial of service attacks. Computer security averted and disabled. Files deleted from hard drives. Is this the work of malicious hackers breaking into a computer system? No. This is what the RIAA envisions is fair play in their crusade to control the distribution of copyrighted material." - arstechnica.com - --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #302 **************************