From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #200 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, July 18 2001 Volume 07 : Number 200 Today's Subjects: ----------------- new bob dylan record. ["heidi maier" ] musical label rants [adamk@zoom.co.uk] Re: musical label rants [Joseph Zitt ] Re: musical label rants [dmw ] Re: musical label rants [jjhanson@att.net] Re: musical label rants [Jessweiser24@aol.com] PORTISHEAD [irvin lin ] PORTISHEAD [Steve VanDevender ] Alquimia [dkastens@uos.de] Re: musical label rants [Gordoja@aol.com] Re: musical label rants [Philip David Morgan ] Re: musical label rants [meredith ] various [meredith ] Re: various ["glenn mcdonald" ] a definitive aimee mann review [meredith ] Re: kathryn williams [the other white meat ] Re: kathryn williams ["glenn mcdonald" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:41:54 +1000 From: "heidi maier" Subject: new bob dylan record. for other dylan fans, this comes from his official mailing list: > Columbia Records will release Bob Dylan's first new album in four > years, "Love and Theft", on September 11. The album, the artist's > 43rd, features 12 brand-new Bob Dylan compositions recorded this > spring with Bob Dylan's touring band, augmented with other musicians > including legendary Texas keyboard player Auggie Myers. > > Song titles on "Love and Theft" include "Tweedle Dee And Tweedle > Dum," "Mississippi," "Summer Days," "Bye And Bye," "Lonesome Day > Blues," "Floater," "Highwater (For Charlie Patton)," "Moonlight," > "Honest With Me," "Po' Boy," "Cry Awhile," and "Sugar Baby." > > Bob Dylan commented about the new album exclusively to U.S.A. Today, > "All the songs are variations on the 12-bar theme and blues-based > melodies. The music here is an electronic grid, the lyrics being the > sub-structure that holds it all together. > > "The songs themselves don't have any genetic history. Is it like > Time Out Of Mind, or Oh Mercy, or Blood On The Tracks, or whatever? > Probably not. I think of it more as a greatest hits album, Volume 1 > or Volume 2. Without the hits; not yet, anyway." > > Columbia Records President Don Ienner believes the timing is perfect > for a new Bob Dylan album, "'Love and Theft' is an album for the > masses, not just for the core Bob Dylan fans. There are a lot of > people who aren't being served by much of the music that they hear > today, and this is the kind of record that people are hungry for. > Bob Dylan is a one-of-a-kind artist making one-of-a-kind music and > "Love and Theft" proves it again." > > The release of "Love and Theft" marks another milestone in the career > of one of the world's most extraordinary artists, and comes amidst > one of Bob Dylan's most creative and prolific periods. In only four > years since 1997's release of the platinum Time Out Of Mind -- one of > the artist's biggest-selling and most critically acclaimed albums, > and for which he received three Grammy Awards, including Album Of The > Year -- Bob Dylan has performed nearly 450 concerts around the world. > He also wrote and recorded "Things Have Changed," featured in the > film Wonder Boys, for which he received both the Academy Award and > Golden Globe earlier this year. heidi. - ------ "i want so much to write well, though i know i don't ... but during and at the end of my life, i will adore those who have." -- *dorothy parker* * heidi maier - maier@joynet.com.au * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:35:38 +0100 (BST) From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: musical label rants I had dug out Warren Zevon's "Sentimental Hygiene" and was listening to his excellent "Even a Dog Can Shake Hands", when the inevitable occurred to me: There seem to be a lot of musicians who have vented their spleen against the record biz -- Ani DiFranco, for sure, has "Napolean" and "The Million You Never Made" plus, I'm sure, many others -- Jonatha Brooke has "Where Were You?" Aimee Mann has, among others on her first solo, "I Should Have Known".....Peter Hammill, well versed in the problems of dealing with labels, even gave us "Two or Three Spectres" back in 1975 and the cutting "Pushing 30" a couple of years after that. Pink Floyd, meanwhile, recorded "Have a Cigar" (from an album that, arguably, could be said to be about the industry. How many others are there out there that people know about? adamk Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:02:28 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: musical label rants On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 03:35:38PM +0100, adamk@zoom.co.uk wrote: > There seem to be a lot > of musicians who have vented their spleen against the > record biz [snip] > How many others are there out there that > people know about? Off the top of my head: Graham Parker: Mercury Poisining Sex Pistols: EMI Frank Zappa: endless amounts of his stuff n.p. John Lennon: Imagine - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:31:14 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: musical label rants On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Joseph Zitt wrote: > > There seem to be a lot > > of musicians who have vented their spleen against the > > record biz > [snip] > > How many others are there out there that > > people know about? first to mind: Clash "Complete Control" "New Boots and Contracts" Sigue Sigue Sputnik "Buy EMI" Crack the SKy "The Radio Cries (It's SIngles Time)" THe Loud Family "Motion of Ariel" but i bet i could come up with dozens and dozens. there's a reason for this. = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:48:45 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Re: musical label rants It seems like MElissa Ferrick has a few tunes like this--though I'm drawing a blank--she certainly bitches enough about major labels at her live shows--Girls with GUitars was just one song--and Happy Song was in response to the label saying "Can you write a happy song?" There are definitely a number of others.... Jeff Hanson > On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Joseph Zitt wrote: > > > > There seem to be a lot > > > of musicians who have vented their spleen against the > > > record biz > > [snip] > > > How many others are there out there that > > > people know about? > > first to mind: > > Clash "Complete Control" "New Boots and Contracts" > > Sigue Sigue Sputnik "Buy EMI" > > Crack the SKy "The Radio Cries (It's SIngles Time)" > > THe Loud Family "Motion of Ariel" > > but i bet i could come up with dozens and dozens. there's a reason for > this. > > > = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ > = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net > = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:26:22 EDT From: Jessweiser24@aol.com Subject: Re: musical label rants The entire Frank Zappa album "Tinseltown Rebellion" comes to mind... great album, btw. :-) Jessica www.jessicaweiser.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:31:03 -0700 From: irvin lin Subject: PORTISHEAD hello. a friend of mine told me that PORTISHEAD is working on a new album. does anyone have any info on this? release date? track listings? album title? can anyone point me to a website that would have more info? their official one is (like most official websites) useless and outdated. thanks! irvin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:44:59 -0700 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: PORTISHEAD irvin lin writes: > hello. > > a friend of mine told me that PORTISHEAD is working on a new album. does anyone have > any info on this? release date? track listings? album title? > > can anyone point me to a website that would have more info? their official one is > (like most official websites) useless and outdated. Interesting. I picked up _Dummy_ a few weeks ago and have really enjoyed it, and also got _Portishead_, which is harder to get into but which I have also come to like. So if they do come out with a new album I'd probably get it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:03:48 +0200 From: dkastens@uos.de Subject: Alquimia Hi, I just dicovered a wonderful artist. She's from Mexico, now living in London, and calls herself Alquimia. Her music is in the vein of Happy's earlier electronic stuff, but with longer instrumental parts. Sometimes it gets a bit too pathetic and ethereal, but some of the short tracks are simply breathtaking. If you like more experimental stuff you should listen to her collaboration with the German keyboarder Anton Zinkl (Zinkl & Alquimia: Underwater). She also recorded an album with Roedelius. Here is a description from her latest release "A seperate reality": "Singer, composer and sonic innovator Alquimia has brought a rare Aztec influence to ethnic, electronic and experimental vocal music. Singing in various languages such as Spanish, English, French, and Nahuatl amongst others, she also uses her voice to create mulitlayered choirs and electronic vocal soundscapes. Alquimia was born in Mexico, where she studied classical piano and voice from an early age. She then became interested in composing in the ethnic music style of her own country, and learned to play various pre-Columbian percussion instruments and flutes. Later on, in her search for other sounds, she became interested in other keyboards, synthesizers and samplers, and developed new singing techniques, opening up for her a whole range of electronic and experimental sounds with which to compose. Now living in London, Alquimia's musical background and influences are widely varied, ranging from Mexican pre-Hispanic music, Celtic ambient techno, world, opera, medieval and classical music, and mixing these elements in an unorthodox manner, she creates experimental improvisations and compositions of a unique style." I hope, you are not bored, now. You can listen to snippets from her album at http://www.jpc.de. Just search for Alquimia. Her homepage is http://www.alquimia.co.uk Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:32:44 EDT From: Gordoja@aol.com Subject: Re: musical label rants I'm quite a fan of Jennifer Terran's "Mad Magdeline" - -Jason n.p. Suddenly Tammy, "We'll get there when we do" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:56:58 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Re: musical label rants Hello, Adam, et.al.: > ...There seem to be a lot > of musicians who have vented their spleen against the > record biz ...How many others are there out there that > people know about? Oh, yes - "I Love My Label" - and my label loves me.... (Nick Lowe, right or wrong? It turns up on an aircheck dub made for me of Negativland member Don Joyce's radio show _Over the Edge_ - the "Celebrity Night" show from 1991, I believe...) Philip David (ironic mode off) 7/17-18/2001 - --- The Polly Stephanson Project - We don't need no stinkin' Sony! (TDK and Maxell CD-Rs are encouraged, however...) http://www.pollyarts.f2s.com/ - --- "This is not ALL rock'n'roll, dude." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:45:39 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: musical label rants Hi, >Pink Floyd, meanwhile, recorded "Have a Cigar" >(from an album that, arguably, could be said to be about >the industry. How many others are there out there that >people know about? Melissa Ferrick has "The Atlantic Song". And while not exactly about a record label, The Nields' "Check It Out" is about an experience the band was forced to endure while signed to a major one. By now I'm sure Brenda Kahn has dozens, as well... ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:57:13 -0400 From: meredith Subject: various Hi, Did any of the Philly-philes make it to the Project Lo gig this past weekend? As far as I know Happy was still planning to play (don't tell her physical therapist). I had a family obligation, otherwise I would've gone. I got my pre-ordered copy of The Nields' new double live album, aptly titled _The Nields Live In Northampton_ last week, and I'm very happy. It was recorded over the course of two nights at the Iron Horse, on New Year's Day and then again in March of this year, the latter night of which I attended. Pretty much everything I'd hoped to show up on the track listing is there: the utterly kickass version of "The Train", Dar Williams' turn singing backup on "Jennifer Falling Down", and a completely psychedelic version of "Bulletproof", featuring the incredible Gideon Freudmann on electric cello. And lots of other great stuff as well. Everyone knows The Nields are first and foremost a live band, and this set emphasizes just how good they are. I cannot WAIT to see them again at Falcon Ridge ... it's been too long! Forgive me if this has been discussed and I just missed it, but -- has anyone heard of Kathryn Williams? woj got her CD in a trade with someone in the UK, and we listened to it over the weekend. It's quite good -- she's like a cross between Beth Orton and Suzanne Vega, with some very Anne Heaton moments, for those who have heard Anne. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:14:35 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: various > has anyone heard of Kathryn Williams? Yes! The female Nick Drake! Highly recommended to Ecto audiences. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:46:43 -0400 From: meredith Subject: a definitive aimee mann review Hi, Space Ghost fans who also like Aimee Mann (or vice-versa) may find this amusing: Moltar's Music Reviews!! http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/spaceghost/reviews.html#music ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:50:12 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: Re: kathryn williams when we last left our heroes, glenn mcdonald exclaimed: >Yes! The female Nick Drake! Highly recommended to Ecto audiences. well, i didn't think of mr. drake at all while listening to _dog leap stairs_, but i recommend her as well. (i've always thought of heidi berry as the female nick drake, but maybe that's just me.) as meredith alluded to, kathryn williams reminds me most of beth orton, with tinges of others here and there. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:02:28 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: kathryn williams > i didn't think of mr. drake at all while listening to _dog leap stairs_ No, me neither, I picked it up from _Little Black Numbers_, which seems to me like a *vastly* most ambitious and impressive record. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #200 **************************