From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #156 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, June 5 2001 Volume 07 : Number 156 Today's Subjects: ----------------- suran song in stag tour dates [/dev/woj ] Over the Rhine news [Emily Perkins ] Ectofestwest House concert june 10 DIRECTIONS, etc [Phil Hudson ] RE: EctoFest West/ recognition tips for Ectos [Phil Hudson ] this is weird . . . [Steve VanDevender ] RE: EctoFest West/ Hands across the Kuumbwa [Phil Hudson ] RE: EctoFest West ["Shelly DeForte" ] RE: EctoFest West [Neal Copperman ] Re: EctoFest West [meredith ] Wendy Rule review (was Re: EctoFest West) [Neal Copperman ] Veda Hille/Holcombe Waller/Pride Day ["Hotel America" Subject: suran song in stag tour dates got a postcard from suran song in stag announcing their release party for their latest album, _cowboys and indians_, and the rest of their upcoming tour dates: Thu 6/07/01 at Wyatt's Saloon, Baltimore, MD Fri 6/08/01 at Vincent's Ear, Ashville, NC Sat 6/09/01 at Artistika, Greensboro, NC Sun 6/10/01 at Penny Arcade, Rochester, NY Tue 6/12/01 at The Barking Spider, Cleveland, OH Wed 6/13/01 at The Blind Lemon, Cleveland, OH Thu 6/14/01 at Bug Jar, Rochester, NY Fri 6/15/01 at Cedar's, Youngstown, OH Sat 6/16/01 at Annabell's, Akron, OH Thu 6/21/01 at Heartland Cafe, Chicago, IL Fri 6/22/01 at Castaway's, Ithaca, NY Mon 6/25/01 at Little Brother's, Columbus, OH Tue 6/26/01 at Mad Frog, Cincinnati, OH Wed 6/27/01 at The Shelter, Detroit, MI Thu 6/28/01 at Obrien's, Boston, MA Sat 6/30/01 at Rudy's, New Haven, CT Fri 7/06/01 at Arlene Grocery, New York, NY Sat 7/07/01 Record Release House Party, in NJ - - Email william@cruelmusic.com to RSVP. Sun 7/08/01 at John & Peter's, New Hope, PA naturally, they are playing new haven the same night that veda hille will be in our living room. *sigh* i can't describe them very well right now except to say that they aren't lilith faire fare. listen to the mp3s at . maybe don, who saw them with me at arlene a few months ago, can chime in. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:44:18 -0700 From: Emily Perkins Subject: Over the Rhine news See below for info on pre-ordering a book and solo piano CD from Linford Detweiler. - -----Original Message----- From: OTRhine@aol.com To: over-the-rhine-announce@actwin.com Sent: 6/3/01 1:48 PM Subject: Letter from Linford Hello folks, I'm stealing a rare moment at home in the attic of the Grey Ghost to write this brief letter of thanks, and to let you know a little of what the rest of the year holds for us. First of all, to those of you who joined us at any of the 50 or so concerts we just completed, Thank you! Thanks for giving us the best tour we've ever had the privilege of experiencing. It only ended yesterday, and it already begins to feel surreal, like a distant dream. You have taught us how drowning works. Metaphors aside, we continue to be blessed with some of the warmest, most encouraging fans/followers/friends of just about any band going. We appreciate all you've done for us, and for allowing us to continue making music and recordings for over ten years, whether or not the mainstream media was aware of us, diligently raising the pop music flag high over the Ohio River. The garden is growing these days, and we've been working very hard. (Or is this an exhausting form of play, the sort of thing that made us flop down smiling as children, lungs heaving, staring at the sky while we caught our breath, lost in the sculpture of clouds?) We've been home now for less than 24 hours (after being away for much of the last few months), and in a few hours Karin and I are flying to Paris. We've never been there, and we get a day off to rest and walk around before we begin doing interviews and "promotion". Then we travel to Brussels for more radio and press, then Cologne, then Amsterdam, then back to Paris. We got to sleep in our own bed for one night last night, and because it was only one night, Willow was under the covers with us like a smiling, seventy pound mole. It's exhausting to write this at the moment, but we'll be joining the Cowboy Junkies later this Fall (late October thru late November) for an extensive tour of Europe. Belgium, Spain, Sweden, Ireland, Germany, France, etc--so many places where Over the Rhine has never had the occasion to go "sur le Rhin". We'll post the dates soon, and we're looking forward to getting to meet those of you who have faithfully written for years, asking when we might visit your country. We'll be opening for the Junkies as a trio, and then sitting in with them again--should be great fun, and an eye opening trip. We hope to take the full band to Europe next Spring. We're planning a special tour again for this December back in the USA, and there will be scattered appearances over the summer, as well as another jaunt out to the West Coast this Fall in one of those Prevost tour buses that we've come to think of as home away from home. So hopefully we'll see more of you. But thanks again for all your support of Over the Rhine. You've enabled us to do what we dreamed of doing. Good things have been happening with Films For Radio. The album was embraced by AAA Radio across the country, entering the top 5 of many stations' playlists. Virgin/Backporch is going to begin working on other formats over the summer. We'll see what happens with this complex little collection of home movies. Stay tuned. We may never run with the popular crowd at school, but it feels as if we are uncovering a secret world. Finally, just for fun. Several literary magazines and publications have in recent months approached me about the possibility of contributing some of my writing to upcoming issues. I was thrilled to contribute part of a memoir to a journal that I've subscribed to for years called Image. (The issue will be coming out later this year. We'll post more info on this and the other publications at overtherhine.com.) Writing is something that has interested me immensely, and writing is the reason I became a songwriter. After studying piano in college, writing a handful of songs and starting a band was the only option open to me where I could conceivably play around with words for a living. I felt it was the only serious choice at the time. I didn't really understand why critics from the beginning referred to the music of Over the Rhine as literate, poetic, full of the "wine dark sparkle of inspired phrase"... We were initially described as quite "bookish" and so on and so forth. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that I was a writer trapped in a songwriter's body. Maybe it was because I dreamed of writing. Maybe I was cramming that longing into the lines of my songs. Anyway, what's my point? Along with music, I hope to pursue writing with just about everything I can muster in the coming years. But it has occurred to me that as I enter the world of editors and publishers and begin to think seriously about writing, I will inevitably "lose my innocence" in regard to the craft of writing. I will be increasingly forced to think about what I am doing, rather than just writing because I felt the impulse, because I had to to make sense of this life I was given and the world I found myself lost in, because I insisted on opening my eyes and paying attention. Before that inevitable loss, which happens whenever we begin to pursue something we love, I'm going to weed through some of what I wrote in the last decade while I was still only discovering I was a writer, and collect it into a book that can serve as a document of what I was writing before I knew what I was doing. Before I had the audacity, the hubris, the nerve, the insanity to think of myself as a "writer". Before it occurred to me, as one writer put it, that I should turn joy into cash! Well, many of you have asked me when I was going to publish my first book, and I have an answer now: July. The working title for the collection is, Close Enough to Share One Spine. And I'm also going to put the finishing touches on a new collection of solo piano recordings, (Lord willing, I can hear my father say) tentatively called, A Book of Matches and A Satellite Dish. This too will be available in July, but the title might change. A Book of Matches and A Reel to Reel is an option. Also, Michael Wilson has the following great line in one of his books: "hymntime in the land of abandon". But I'd have to check with not only Michael, (who was generous enough to leave the words "I Don't Think There's No Need to Bring Nothin'" on our answering machine), (part of an invitation to dinner), but also Jeff Bell, who wanted to use Hymntime in the Land of Abandon as the title for one of his screenplays.) We're still working on the title. What It Takes To Please You is no longer available, so it's tough. As we are prone to do in the Imaginary Apple Orchard, we're going to run one of those red (delicious) light specials and allow the faithful few to reserve signed and numbered copies of these labors of love in advance. For those of you interested in copies of the book *and* the new piano cd, this is Stacie's pre-order special: $25 includes shipping and handling for copies of both the book and the cd after they arrive hot off the presses in July. Those of you interested in one or the other (or neither) can order (or not) later in July after they are added to the catalog. The cost will be $15 each plus shipping and handling at that time. (Office note: to clarify, the special is only for those interested in pre-ordering signed and numbered copies of both the book and the cd.) To place your pre-order, you can call Stacie between 10am and 5pm EST, Monday thru Friday at the Over the Rhine office, fax your order with shipping and credit card info to 513.731.9668, or go to overtherhine.com. Our wise webmaster will be posting info soon on how to take advantage of the July fireworks via secured server. Thanks again everyone for keeping abreast with us on this "troubled sea that we sail for free". We hope your lives will grow increasingly vivid and rewarding. Keep in touch and we hope to see you soon, Linford Detweiler for Over the Rhine - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------------------------------------- | To subscribe/unsubscribe: Majordomo@ActWin.com | Subject is ignored | message: SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) listname | The three versions of this list (listnames) are: | over-the-rhine discussion list | over-the-rhine-digest digest version of discussion list | over-the-rhine-announce to only receive "official" messages from OTR ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:12:10 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: Ectofestwest House concert june 10 DIRECTIONS, etc Hello All. Ectowest is approaching now at lightspeed, ( Happy Hour is now less than a week away!) and I just emailed out directions to all those ( i think) who have RSVP'ed. The server at this address crashed a while back and I lost some emails and data, so if you have intentions of attending the House Concert, and have not yet received directions from me, please email me ASAP so I can get them out to you, or call the house at 831 338 3887. See you all at the Kuumbwa on Saturday. Regards Phil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:29:45 -0700 From: Troy J Shadbolt Subject: EctoFest West I just have a question for y'all. How are we going to identify ourselves at this culmination of good old fashion fuzzy blue ecto-ness? I must admit, all the members I met in person are long gone and I've not met many of the names I've seen for years. troy (who would say he'd be the one grinning, but I'm pretty sure that will describe a lot of people.) - -- "I am the boards and the rusted nails holding up this nation..." Katharine Chase ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:52:59 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: RE: EctoFest West/ recognition tips for Ectos I suggest we all wear white tropical cotton suits with a red rose on the lapels, Panama hats, and carry a rolled-up copy of the London Times, dated June 5, 2001. Password; cohabitants. That ought to do it. :) Phil In reality, I will attempt to find some fuzzy blue dot stickers, or similar, at the local Office Outback supply store. Or we could all wear badges saying "not HAPPY without RHODES" or similar. We'll think of something. (If you think of it first please let us know.) Phil - -----Original Message----- From: Troy J Shadbolt [mailto:tjshadb@voyuz.net] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:30 PM To: ecto Subject: EctoFest West I just have a question for y'all. How are we going to identify ourselves at this culmination of good old fashion fuzzy blue ecto-ness? I must admit, all the members I met in person are long gone and I've not met many of the names I've seen for years. troy (who would say he'd be the one grinning, but I'm pretty sure that will describe a lot of people.) - -- "I am the boards and the rusted nails holding up this nation..." Katharine Chase ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:23:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: EctoFest West On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Troy J Shadbolt wrote: > I just have a question for y'all. How are we going to identify ourselves > at this culmination of good old fashion fuzzy blue ecto-ness? I must > admit, all the members I met in person are long gone and I've not met > many of the names I've seen for years. All I have to suggest is that people don't be shy. Introduce yourself to folks who seem to be associated with anything going on, and figure that you'll get pointed to (or at) other ecto-folks. I figure I've probably met a good 10 people who will be there. So if you see a cluster of people, just wander over and ask if they are on the list. I guess some of us could wear past ectofest t-shirts (or suitable ecto-like t-shirts) to be more obvious. (I can't be counted on to do that.) Hey, will there be t-shirts? Maybe that should be Phil's job. Every ectophile in attendance is assigned the job of finding Phil. Then Phil can make sure we can all find each other. :) neal np: beleza tropical - david byrne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:42:11 -0700 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: this is weird . . . So I'm taking some time out of the office since they're remodeling downstairs and making comical drilling noises, but I took along the electronic ball-and-chain in the form of my laptop and wireless card so I can pretend to work while eating lunch outside. So right now I'm sitting in the middle of the U of O campus near an outdoor amphitheatre outside the student union building, and there's some odd band playing here. They start a song that immediately sounds familiar, but it's not until the chorus that I recognize it as Kristin Hersh's "Gazebo Tree". Unfortunately it's a rather strange and tuneless cover, not quite an insult to the original but not really any sort of brilliant reinterpretation either. It at least beats the whiny overearnest folk-singer type who was playing when I was on my way in to get lunch. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:56:00 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: RE: EctoFest West/ Hands across the Kuumbwa Neal said; >>......Maybe that should be Phil's job. >>Every ectophile in attendance is >>assigned the job of finding Phil. >>Then Phil can make sure we can all find each other. :) I have the great honor of being the MC + backstage den-mother for this concert, so I should not be too hard to find. If you're looking for me offstage, I have a recognizable Brit accent, tempered by some years of California living, but I'll wear the white suit/Panama hat/London Times outfit just in case.... See y'all there. M.C. Fil (The artist formerly know as "Phil") np: Land of the Blind- Ordinary Magic "Trust" ( on repeat) This Cyoakha crazy-woman really rocks! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:58:04 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: RE: this is weird . . . .Steve said.. "It at least beats the whiny overearnest folk-singer type who was playing when I was on my way in to get lunch." "If I had a hammer.... there wouldn't be any more folk singers" Billy Connolly p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:07:14 -0700 From: "Shelly DeForte" Subject: RE: EctoFest West > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Troy J Shadbolt wrote: > > > I just have a question for y'all. How are we going to identify ourselves > > at this culmination of good old fashion fuzzy blue ecto-ness? I must > > admit, all the members I met in person are long gone and I've not met > > many of the names I've seen for years. Well considering about 1/3-1/2 the crowd will be ecto and friends of ecto, it shouldn't be too hard to find each other *grin*. > I guess some of us could wear past ectofest t-shirts (or suitable > ecto-like t-shirts) to be more obvious. (I can't be counted on to do > that.) Hey, will there be t-shirts? I'm sorry to say that there will not be t-shirts this year at ectofestwest. The show has been very expensive and there just weren't available funds. We'll probably have some posters available though... - - Shelly np: Depeche Mode - Exciter (SWEEEET!!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:01:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: RE: EctoFest West On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Shelly DeForte wrote: > Well considering about 1/3-1/2 the crowd will be ecto and friends of ecto, > it shouldn't be too hard to find each other *grin*. There you go. No excuses then. I'm going to be annoyed at any ectophile I don't meet. > I'm sorry to say that there will not be t-shirts this year at ectofestwest. > The show has been very expensive and there just weren't available funds. That's ok. Was just curious. neal np: My Way or the Highway - Tuscadero ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:40:56 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: EctoFest West Hi, Neal suggested: >I guess some of us could wear past ectofest t-shirts (or suitable >ecto-like t-shirts) to be more obvious. (I can't be counted on to do >that.) I'll do that ... I'll either have on an ectofest t-shirt or an ectofest hat. Or hell, maybe both. I know at least some of the ectophiles who are coming in from different time zones, so I expect woj and I will be in a gaggle of ectophiles somewhere... Hey, if anyone is interested in meeting up for dinner beforehand, please speak up. That would be a good way to meet people, too. I can't wait for Saturday!! ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:36:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Wendy Rule review (was Re: EctoFest West) On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, meredith wrote: > Hey, if anyone is interested in meeting up for dinner beforehand, please > speak up. That would be a good way to meet people, too. I'd be game to meet for dinner, assuming the logistics work out ok. (I'm coming down with other folks from Albany.) Anyone know the area well enough to offer up suggestions for places and times? I'm heading off work soon to meet up with Wendy Rule and son Ruben for dinner. Then we're off to the top of the mountains to watch the sunset and wander around by moonlight. The house concert was a lot of fun, and surprisingly less stressful than I expected. Well, I wasn't expecting it to be stressful until that morning, when Wendy called to tell me she missed her plane. No problem though, she says. I'm on standby from Orlando to Denver, and Denver to Albuquerque, and if I make all my flights, I'll get in at 7:05. When's the concert again? Uh, 7:30. Amazingly, she did get on those flights, some of which were full. And the plane from Devner was only 36 minutes late. When they landed, I had the prospect of meeting someone I didn't know at the airport, though I figured it would be pretty easy to pick her out of the crowd. At a bare minimum, I was looking for a dark-haired woman with a guitar and a nine-year-old boy. But I figured she'd stand out. Sure enough, when a woman rounded the corner wearing a purple top hat, black and purple boustier, and black flare pants with frogs painted on them with a boy draped in a giant stuffed snake in tow, I knew I'd found my guests :) We were treated to the sun disappearing behind the escarpment west of Albuquerque as we rushed to Jeff's place. Pulling into the neighborhood, it was amusing to see it all parked up for the house concert, and many people I knew hanging out and enjoying the weather. After a full day of airports and flying, Wendy put on a solid show. I wasn't sure how her songs would sound without the lush arrangement of the albums, but I knew that her voice would certainly carry them through. And while I did miss the cello and keyboards, I wasn't at all disappointed. Wendy doesn't use all of her range often, but when she does, she's got a haunting low growl and beautiful highs. The biggest surprise for me was what a good storyteller she was. She'd often introduce songs by recounting the Irish or Greek myth that inspired them, and her lightly accented versions were captivating. She played a good mix of songs from all three of her albums, and responded to a few requests (Artemis and Zero). Sometimes the songs were appealingly ragged, as the day started to show a bit. (And the altitude. We explained the possible affects of performing at 5000 feet, and she said that she thought her dizziness was just from exhaustion.) Some hadn't been played in accoustic form before, like The Chariot, and a few were unrecorded songs. Some of those were highlights of the evening too. The pairing of a song for a friend of hers (with a French title I can't recall at the moment, though it was something like The Woman of the Sea) with Leonard Cohen's Suzanne was particularly haunting. She's got another show here in New Mexico tomorrow before heading out to CA for Wednesday's pre-ectofest show. Later, neal np: Pure - The Golden Palominos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 00:18:30 -0400 From: "Hotel America" Subject: Veda Hille/Holcombe Waller/Pride Day Hey all.I'm not sure if anyone on this list lives near Los Altos, CA, but there's going to be an awesome double-header on June 10th. It's Veda Hille (who I'm sure most of you know) and Holcombe Waller (who most of you probably don't.) He's sort of a cross between Jeff Buckley and Ani Difranco... he's got this fabulous androgynous 4-octave voice which he does incredible things with. Anyway, you can listen to his stuff at mp3.com (www.mp3.com/holcombewaller) or go to his website for more information (www.holcombewaller.com). Here's the concert info: Sunday, June 10th, 8pmVeda Hille and Holcombe Waller Los Altos Bar and Grille - Los Altos, CA 169 Main, downtown Los Altos (650) 948 4332 $10. Also, Gay Pride Day here in New Haven is gonna be celebrated on the Green downtown on Saturday, June 9th... and my band is opening up the show. It all starts at noon - I've never been before but supposedly it's a pretty big deal, so people should show up and make a day of it. --Chuck - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #156 **************************