From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #132 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, May 11 2001 Volume 07 : Number 132 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] loss from napster... [irvin lin ] Ebba [anna maria "stjärnell" ] Re: A strong argument against encrytption [Daniel ] RE: A strong argument against encrytption [Andrew Fries ] Re: news for kiwis ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] for the bootlegger's out there... [Troy J Shadbolt ] Re: news for kiwis [Joseph Zitt ] Cinco de Mayo with Deborah Pardes [Troy J Shadbolt ] Tapping The Vein in Philadelphia [Ted ] Re: news for kiwis [Neal Copperman ] Re: Ebba ["Bill" ] Re: ecto-digest V7 #131 [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: Ebba [jjhanson@att.net] Re: Ebba ["Bill" ] Boa - _Twilight_ reviewed [Philip David Morgan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 03:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Heidi Maier (maier@joynet.com.au) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Heidi Maier Wed May 10 1978 Taurus Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Philip David Morgan Sat May 12 1962 Chinese Tiger in Bull Clothing Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse Gleb Zverev Tue June 09 1964 Gemini Sonja Juchniewich Mon June 10 1963 Pegasus - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:35:46 -0700 From: irvin lin Subject: loss from napster... > From: "Vienna Teng" > > Is there any way to estimate how much money the music industry "loses" due to things like Napster? Or due to selling products > on non-copy-protected media, in general? > > I'm just curious as to the magnitude of the piracy problem, financially > speaking. funny, i recently read an article about that very subject, the "loss" of revenue supposedly due to NAPSTER. it was in this months issue of SPIN magazine. TOOL is on the cover. here's a summary. according the article HILARY ROSEN president of the RIAA (the RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATE of AMERICA) testified in court that records stores near college campuses reported decline in sales. the article also cites the fact that both BRITNEY SPEARS and N'SYNC broke first week sales on their album. basically it talks about how facts and statistics can be distorted in whatever way you want them to (does anyone remember the BELL CURVE controversy years ago? another classic example of statistics distorting reality.) the record industry (RIAA) testified that music sales dropped by a whopping 39% in 2000. what they didn't say is that those numbers refer to CD singles, a format that the labels have been phasing out long before NAPSTER, and a format that hasn't grown since the mid 90's). it went on to talk about SOUNDSCAN (the company that tracks how many units sell) and how there actually was an increased growth of 4% in sales. and though that is not necessarily a huge growth, it went on to break it down by genre, and the big losses were in country, (3.1%), classical (5.2%) and jazz (5.8) while alternative increased by 8.4%, metal by 8.7% and rap by a huge 20.3%. the article also stated that there were other factors that you have to discuss, such as the label consolidations - and the thousands of acts that were put into limbo because of it, the awful release schedule of the summer time (this according to a NYC music industry consulting firm), the competing entertainment devices like PS2 that were released during the holidays, and the slowing economy. so basically the article says that there really isn't any definitive way to estimate the damage that NAPSTER did. if any at all. i know that i certainly downloaded a few hundred (erm thousand) mp3's last year, but ultimately i ended up buying most of the CD's that i liked (with the exception of JLo since i didn't want anyone knowing that i spent money on it), especially since trying to track down and download every single song was kinda pain in the butt. ultimately i ended up using NAPSTER to find live stuff and rarities and remixes that weren't easily available to me, and it's unfortunate that i can't do that anymore with the filtering system (and as much as i like gnuetella, i can never find any of the rare stuff that i really want). more info that you probably needed right? irvin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 01:42:28 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: Ebba Hi.. Those interested might want to know that Ebba Forsberg has a new cd called True Love. Its only been relased here as her deal with Maverick fell through. She's made her acting debut in a swedish series called Anderssons dlskarinna. (Andersson's mistress). Rebecka Tvrnqvist also has a new cd for release in the fall. Anna Maria np-Gloria-Gloria nr-Tanith Lee-Vivia Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 01:49:45 -0700 From: Daniel Subject: Re: A strong argument against encrytption Vienna Teng asked: > Is there any way to estimate how much money the music industry "loses" due to > things like Napster? Or due to selling products on non-copy- protected media, > in general? You fool! Don't you realise that _any_ amount of money not spent on music is a catastrophic loss to the industry? Limousines don't polish, fuel or drive themselves, you know! Speaking for myself, and not in any way endorsing piracy, I can state that there are items legally in my possession which might not have come to my attention were it not for the existence of _illegal_ copies. (All right, so I traffic with thieves. If it's good enough for Uncle Sam ...) My question is: How much income does the music industry gain as a result of piracy? Which is greater, gain or loss? Moot. Daniel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:02:53 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: RE: A strong argument against encrytption > Is there any way to estimate how much money the music industry "loses" due > to things like Napster? Or due to selling products on non-copy-protected > media, in general? I don't think such estimate can be made with any degree of accuracy, so it'll likely depend on who paid for any particular piece of research. However, one piece of data seems pretty indisputable: despite (or because of?) the net, napster, and cd burners, overall sales of CDs are healthier than ever before... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:54:22 +0100 (BST) From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: "Guardian" article on the "New Acoustic Movement". Yeah, right. There's an article in today's Guardian touching on the so- called "New Acoustic Movement", for those interested, and it mentions groups like Turin Breaks, Kings of Convenience, as well as a couple of others. I skimmed through it this morning (and don't have it to hand)but it struck me as one of those desperate, bandwagon- chasing articles, coming a couple of months after the name was thought up by some hard-up music journo/hack. Okay, I may be a little cynical, here (no, strike that - I really AM cynical), but -- as I've raved on about before -- the tag "New Acoustic Movement" has always struck me as a ploy to find the Next Big Thing to pigeonhole and hype, something the music press feel they have to do every now and then to validate their existence(again: anyone remember that earth-shaking "New Wave of the New Wave" from the early 90's?). The article is worth checking out, I suppose,(there's probably a cyber version of it, somewhere) just to see the press catching up with what the ectos have known for years, and they do mention a potentially interesting female duo called Cookie. Watch out, however, for the particularly condescending tone of the writer and some of those interviewed, who --- desperate for what they see as hipness -- frantically distance themselves from any past acoustic/folk tradition by reinforcing tired old stereotypes. At one gig, for instance, the journalist notes that there's "not a beard in sight" or some such crap, and one of the musicians makes another, similar crass generalisation. The whole thing reeks of "Hey, look what we've JUST discovered!" without hardly any nod to the past, and only Simon and Garfunkel getting a namecheck. The authour also seems unaware of the sold-out Tom McRae gig which featured four acoustic acts on one bill, as if this is outside his remit. If he'd gone, he would have heard and been shamed by the excellent Thea Gillmore, who said "I've been doing this for five years, and the other day I woke up and found out I was part of the New Acoustic Movement" (adding "So, thank you Mr. New Acoustic, for having a movement named after you") Adam K. Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 05:15:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: "Guardian" article on the "New Acoustic Movement". Yeah, right. - --- adamk@zoom.co.uk wrote: > The article is worth checking out, I > suppose,(there's > probably a cyber version of it, somewhere http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/story/0,3604,488410,00.html :-) The whole thing reeks of "Hey, look > what > we've JUST discovered!" without hardly any nod to > the past, Yeah, my response is along the lines of what makes him think acoustic music was hiding in a cave for years? What "rebirth"? Ellen, who needs to remember to reserve Cropedy tix ===== "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:11:43 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: A strong argument against encrytption Phil sez: > I received a Dongle with a work-related CD recently, they had one key for > their entire range of expensive and *downloadable* products. It's one thing > to be greedy; being greedy AND stupid is entirely another. Just look at > Congress, for example. for those of us who develop proprietary software which is, in effect rented to customers, the dongle is still a wonderful thing. They're exceedingly more secure and flexible than the dongles I remember from the early to mid 80's (when the dongle was basically just a few resistors that a port could check for the correct voltage -- easily ripped off). Now dongles have serial numbers, can be programmed remotely (via the web, e-mailed key codes, etc.), and can do clever things like setting drop-dead dates but also allowing limited use after the drop-dead (e.g. you could configure an app to allow read-only access to a database until the software's license was renewed), not to mention built-in network support (e.g. one dongle for an entire office). The system I develop is a package for franchisees of a company and is probably worth in the neighborhood of $60-100k (not that I've seen a cent of that...the problems with working for your family. not that I'm bitter or anything...). It's not meant for public consumption, and the dongle allows the franchisor to maintain control over the franchisees... Is it 100% secure? I'm not convinced. Will it stop virtually anyone we'd be worried about from running off with the software? Yeah. jeff n.p. _A Momentary Lapse of Reason_, Pink Floyd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 02:29:31 +1200 From: Eek the Cat Subject: news for kiwis "No kiwis were involved in an accident on the M-1 today when a Lorry carrying High-octane fuel was in collison with a bollard." I'm terribly sorry, I'll start again... [ n.b. for the audio technology-aware among you, I have a query about portable recorders at the end, if you were intending to skip the rest of this message on the grounds that you live on the other side of the world :) ] I just got back from a brilliant gig which I now feel awful that I didn't tell more people about (sorry Karen!! :\ ) Charlotte Yates, Michelle Jones, and Christina Cusiel were playing, and I was only familiar with Charlotte, so I didn't know what to expect from the others, thus I'd only informed my local Charlotte Yates stalker, um, I mean fan :) Michelle was a little nervous (it was apparently one of her first performances), but she had a lovely voice and played a great set. Apart from having to abort her last song due to forgetting the words (which she handled well.) I'll definitely look out for further performances from her. Charlotte played next, and her set was all taken from her brand new album called "Dead Fish Beach", which I've been enjoying. I like Charlotte, so I was expecting a great set, and she didn't disappoint. I'd caught the last couple of songs from her CD release gig (which I'd not known about, and only wandered past by a fluke the previous week), and it was interesting hearing the contrast between her playing with and without a band. Christina I'd never heard of, and so she completely blew me away. Her guitar playing was great, and she had a brilliant strong voice. Right from the first song I was in a "Wow." frame of mind. I was devastated when I found out that she doesn't yet have an album. I would have gladly paid for a recording of her set, if there was one. I suspect I will be forced to sing its praises when she does release an album, but I think that will be some time away going by her comments, as she's still trying to get the money together to make it. In the meantime, I get to redeem myself somewhat for not getting more people along to this, because Christina said she thought she'd also be playing at the next Women in Song gig about a month from now. So. If you're in Wellington, look for the posters - -- a woman's back, made to look kinda like a cello -- and (especially if Christina _is_ playing) make sure you go!!! If it's as good a night as tonight, you'll definitely be glad you did. Final note... the show was at the Southern Cross Tavern, and the sound was great! I get really frustrated when I go to hear people play and the volume is ridiculously high, but it was just about perfect tonight... you could hear their voices clearly, and the louder bits still rocked. Lastly, off on a tangent, Karen Hunter's new album is due out... uh... eep... is out now! (According to the web site; I was expecting email announcing that one.) Well, it's a double album called "Inside Outside", and I guess you can start looking for it! :) (Although the release was on Friday April 27th, so perhaps it hasn't filtered through the distribution channels yet...) Oh, there is one more thing... Seeing as how I was wishing I had a recording of the concert, and I was seated close enough that I could have gotten a decent one myself had I any equipment... can anyone recommend good portable (as in really small) recording gear... I know you can get mini-disc recorders, and possibly MP3-based ones as well... It would be great to be able to record gigs and burn them to CD, so I'd really appreciate any wisdom on the subject (or just tell me to go read a previous discussion on this topic that I missed :) Thanks! - -Philip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:39:54 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: news for kiwis Phillip sez: > Oh, there is one more thing... Seeing as how I was wishing > I had a recording of the concert, and I was seated close > enough that I could have gotten a decent one myself had > I any equipment... can anyone recommend good portable > (as in really small) recording gear... I know you can > get mini-disc recorders, and possibly MP3-based ones > as well... Yeah, what he said... Specifically, I'm looking for a reasonable mic to use (er...Neal? woj? anyone?) Thanks to the boyfriend, I've got a portable MD recorder to drag around...but the only mic he has is this monstrous thing that came with an old stereo with built-in karaoke functionality (a terrifying thought; marc was not meant to be a singer...). Anyway. Thoughts? jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 07:52:56 -0700 From: Troy J Shadbolt Subject: for the bootlegger's out there... jeff sed: > Yeah, what he said... Specifically, I'm looking for a reasonable mic to use (er...Neal? woj? anyone?) Thanks to the boyfriend, I've got a portable MD recorder to drag around...but the only mic he has is this monstrous thing that came with an old stereo with built-in karaoke functionality (a terrifying thought; marc was not meant to be a singer...). Anyway. Thoughts? jeff < I have a Sharp Sereph Mini-Disc recorder and use an audix lavileer mic (~$100); if you are in the front couple of rows, you just clip the lavileer to your shirt (at the shoulder works well.) Of course, most of the live events I attend, I'm a friend of a feature performer, and then I just plug the MDR right into the mixing board. This past weekend, both my Sereph and Martine Locke's (Velvet Janes) were plugged into the board. That way you get clear vocals and instruments and just a little "live noise". troy - -- "I called your name last night; to keep my lips from trembling" Deborah Pardes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:02:54 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: news for kiwis On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:39:54AM -0400, Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > Yeah, what he said... Specifically, I'm looking for a reasonable mic to > use (er...Neal? woj? anyone?) Thanks to the boyfriend, I've got a > portable MD recorder to drag around...but the only mic he has is this > monstrous thing that came with an old stereo with built-in karaoke > functionality (a terrifying thought; marc was not meant to be a > singer...). I've been quite happy with the Audio Technica ATR-25 stereo microphone, which I picked up for less than $100 not long ago (though I'm blanking on where). n.p.i.m.h.: Talking Heads: Fear of Music n.r.: Morton Feldman: Give My Regards to Eighth Street (Collected Writings) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:26:59 -0700 From: Troy J Shadbolt Subject: Cinco de Mayo with Deborah Pardes Hey all, Just thought I'd point y'all to four full length video clips of the Deborah Pardes house concert I hosted this past Saturday so you can hear Deborah. They are quicktime thanks to my spiffy digital video camera and iMovie 2! Cafe Lights - http://www.voyuz.net/cafe.mov Petals Over Me - http://www.voyuz.net/petals.mov Dirty Dishes - http://www.voyuz.net/dishes.mov Prom Dress - http://www.voyuz.net/dress.mov troy - -- "I called your name last night; to keep my lips from trembling" Deborah Pardes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:42:20 -0400 From: Ted Subject: Tapping The Vein in Philadelphia Tuesday May 15th Tapping The Vein (11:30pm) / Carfax Abbey(10:30pm), at Shampoo, 417 North 8th Street (Philadelphia), 9pm doors, $6, all ages, 215-922-7500 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:48:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: news for kiwis On Thu, 10 May 2001, Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > Yeah, what he said... Specifically, I'm looking for a reasonable mic to > use (er...Neal? woj? anyone?) Thanks to the boyfriend, I've got a > portable MD recorder to drag around...but the only mic he has is this > monstrous thing that came with an old stereo with built-in karaoke > functionality (a terrifying thought; marc was not meant to be a > singer...). Your choice will really depend on what you want to do with it. I'm not very knowledgable about audio gear. I just ask a few people who know more than me to try to make a knowledgable decision, hopefully buy good stuff, and then try to get the most mileage out of it I can. I have two mics. One is Stealth Cardiod Mics from Core Sounds (http://www.core-sound.com/cardioid.html). This costs around $300 and sounds pretty amazing. They are pretty tiny clip-on mics, so they are quite good if you don't want people to know you are taping. Core Sounds has other stealth mics that are cheaper (around $100) and more expensive (around $1000). I've been real happy with these though. Like JOe, I have an Audio Technica stereo mic. I can't remember the model number (see, I'm definitely not a tech head!). I'll look it up tonight. It's fancier than Joe's though, and cost around $300 also. I've had excellent results recording my house concerts with these. (http://www.audiotechnica.com) Last year I bought a Sony portable DAT for recording. I didn't like minidisc cause I wanted the longer timeframe that DAT's provide. Having gone too many years trying to flip analog cassettes during shows, I was eager to have 2 hours without messing around. Minidisc is what, 75 minutes? You can double their length by recording in mono, but I don't really like that option (though most of what I record doesn't use stereo much, there are some nice things in editing that can sometimes overcome room problems in stereo). And if you do the same thing with DAT, you can record a huge amount of time without getting a new tape. (It's like LP vs SP mode on your VCR.) Unfortunately, DAT remains expensive. I think the standard portable DAT is over $700 (not verified number). When I was looking, places kept trying to sell me this slick new 8 track digital mixer that was only around $300. You record directly into it and it has a ton of capabilities. Relatively limited memory at that price, but you can keep chunking out more money to expand it. However, it's the size of a laptop, and you won't be doing any stealth recording with it. So I opted for the DAT and try to do that sort of thing in post-processing on a computer. Anyway, hope that helps a bit. I'll look up my mic model when I get home. neal np: The Music Of Your Life - ZuZu's Petals ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:07:32 -0700 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Ebba On Thu, 10 May 2001 01:42:28 -0700 (PDT), anna maria "stjornell" wrote: >Those interested might want to know that Ebba Forsberg >has a new cd called True Love. Its only been relased >here as her deal with Maverick fell through. How sad that her _Been there_ album is out of print now; it is a nice piece of work. I was just thinking the other day about the increasing number in my CD collection of out-of-print items... On the one hand I am proud to have so much good, yet rare music; but on the other hand it is sad to see so much good work perishing into oblivion. - - Bill G. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:10:10 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: ecto-digest V7 #131 In a message dated 5/10/01 2:09:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org writes: << I'm just curious as to the magnitude of the piracy problem, financially speaking. I mean, if 1% of the people who have an album got a PC-burned copy of it instead of buying it, "greed" is an appropriate term for these copy-protection folks. ("Stupidity" would be as well, seeing as they're probably alienating a lot more than 1% of potential buyers.) 15% would be a different story, I think. - - Vienna >> Nah, I think they just want us all to go back to recording our friends' albums on tapes. :) Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:40:44 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Re: Ebba They had a bunch of Ebba Forsberg's Been There in a used CD Store in Seattle when I was up there for $1 or $2 a piece. I picked one up there then but it has yet to make much of an impression on me. Jeff n.p. Salamander Crossing - Bottleneck Dreams n.r. The Woman Lit by Fireflies - Jim Harrison Ancients of Days - Paul McAuley > On Thu, 10 May 2001 01:42:28 -0700 (PDT), anna maria "stjornell" wrote: > > >Those interested might want to know that Ebba Forsberg > >has a new cd called True Love. Its only been relased > >here as her deal with Maverick fell through. > > How sad that her _Been there_ album is out of print now; it is a nice > piece of work. > > I was just thinking the other day about the increasing number in my CD > collection of out-of-print items... On the one hand I am proud to have > so much good, yet rare music; but on the other hand it is sad to see so > much good work perishing into oblivion. > > - Bill G. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:38:06 -0700 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Ebba On Thu, 10 May 2001 16:40:44 +0000, jjhanson@att.net wrote: >They had a bunch of Ebba Forsberg's Been There >in a used CD Store in Seattle when I was up there >for $1 or $2 a piece. I picked one up there then >but it has yet to make much of an impression on me. Well, Ebba's album is not necessarily "the most revolutionary work to date" or anything like that, but I think it has its merits anyway, and I think it's worth the real estate on my CD rack. Maybe give it another listening. :) Along those lines, yesterday I saw a used copy of Imogen Heap's _i Megaphone_ on sale for $3, and that broke my heart. Her work is indeed innovative and good, and having seen her perform live definitely reassured my appreciation for her. But yet again, not everyone would find her music appealing. It's one of those things. - - Bill G. np: Imogen Heap - i Megaphone nr: Miguel Otero Silva - Oficina No. 1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:16:55 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Boa - _Twilight_ reviewed Good Evening, All: After last night's encryption business, I think you might find the following much easier to take: The Boa compilation CD _Twilight_ has been reviewed at: http://www.animefringe.com/reviews/8/index.php3 One small note: _AmineFringe_ caters to _otaku_ (Japanese anime and manga fans, for those new to the list), so this review was written with _otaku_ - particularly _Serial Experiments Lain_ fans - in mind. Also, Pioneer is apparently trying _not_ to bring up _Serial Experiments Lain_ in promoting the CD, even though they were one of the three companies that bankrolled the series. I hope to be getting my copy of the disc shortly. Philip David (let's hear "Duvet" on the radio and see how many DJs are closet _otaku_) 5/10/2001 - --- http://members.dencity.com/SakuraNation/ - --- "Go back and finish your next episode preview, so we can look forward to it." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:03:11 -0700 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: Boa - _Twilight_ reviewed Philip David Morgan writes: > After last night's encryption business, That wasn't about encryption. Quit saying that it's about encryption. The data on that Charley Pride CD is not encrypted. The issues surrounding encryption are a lot different than the issues surrounding copy protection, and it's important not to confuse the two. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 23:06:19 -0500 From: tenthvictim@mindspring.com Subject: Old Business, New Business Hello, I wondered who Dizzy Gillespie's percussionist on a circa 1994 televised concert was. Here is the speculation so far: Chano Pozzo, Airto, (and I am adding) Paulinho Da Costa. I added Da Costa because he plays percussion on a 1996 Dizzy album titled _Bahiana_. I have yet to make it to a major store with actual jazz recordings, so have no conclusion and don't really expect a conclusion. The awful truth is, I want to see what the percussionist does, not listen. But I will take what I can get. I am intrigued by the idea of carrying songs along without using a trap set (in other words, I'm too cheap to buy a trap set and too uncoordinated to learn to play one). I would have looked for Diz recordings last Saturday, but I wasted my time visiting the Brook Mays (music store) Garage sale. This leads to the next topic: Do gear heads have bolt heads? How does one know one is a bolt head? And does one's head end in a rounded metallic dome or are the bolts sticking from one's neck and the side of one's forhead. If one listens to Synergy, Vangelis, Wendy Carlos, and obscure techno discs from the bargain bin, is one a bolt head? I especially love a CD called _Only For the Headstrong_ from 1992. Some of you might recognize "How Does it Feel" by Electroset, which I gather is a cover of a Human League or Depeche Mode song. You Bush heads might be aware of a Utah Saints song, "Something Good," incorporating a Kate Bush sample, which is on the disc. (By the way, does Black Dove know this list is a collection of sassy Kate Bush fans who can't play nice with the other Bush people?) And finally, Model 500 (Juan Atkins - I love the man) has a song on it called "The Passage." My use of song is sloppy. If it doesn't have vocals, is it a song? Can we claim to be Happy heads? Is Phil's "auxosporic" a coined term? The microbiologist in the cubicle across from me claims it is not a word. The on-line medical dictionaries I consulted are baffled, too. There is a rumor going around my place of business that a British company uses the brand name "Auxo" and thus may be the source of the first part of this seemingly spurious word. (Ah, my spell checker may have just solved the mystery. Are those Barnes and Noble clerks, all 144 of them, exosporic?) I feel like a bad standup comedian full of dopey questions. Bye, Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 22:56:08 -0600 From: Neal Copperman Subject: mics and DC shows Hey all, Well, the mic I have is an Audio Technica 822, and I'm very happy with it. I'm flying to Virginia tomorrow to visit my folks and work. I notice that Emm Gryner is listed as playing 3 shows at the Metro Cafe over the next month, the closest one being this Sunday. Not sure I will be able to make it, but I might try. Not too much else that I think I'll be at. The Cowboy Junkies are continuing the trend of excellent folks doing weird in-store tours, showing up at the Tower in DC next Friday (18th) to entertain all their unemployed fans. (Shows at 12:30.) neal np: Shadow Behind the Iron Sun - Evelyn Glennie ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #132 **************************