From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #344 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, November 16 2000 Volume 06 : Number 344 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Tom McRae [anna maria "stjärnell" ] Diamanda [anna maria "stjärnell" ] RE: michey [Phil Hudson ] Shameless self-promotion and gloating [Neile Graham ] Fun questions continued [Phil Hudson ] RE: here's a fun question... [Chuck Davis ] Re: Fun questions continued [Paul Blair ] i got myself HR cds ["Julio Ortega" ] RE: Fun questions continued [Phil Hudson ] Re: Diamanda [John Drummond ] Re: Shameless self-promotion and gloating [Billi Mazur ] susan werner in ny [meredith ] by what standard? [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] Re: michey [Billi Mazur ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 03:00:05 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ****************** Dave Cook (davecook@yarrow.wt.com.au) ****************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dave Cook Mon November 15 1971 Scorpio Jeff Pearce November 16 Orpheus Naama Avramzon Mon November 18 1974 Scorpio Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Anja Baldo Tue November 23 1965 Garbanzo Tommy Persson Wed November 25 1964 Sagittarius Pat Tessitore November 26 Sagittarius Valerie Kraemer November 26 Sagittarius Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Ward Kadel Tue November 29 1977 Sagittarius Jesse Hernandez Liwag Wed November 29 1972 Water Rat Mirko Bulaja Sat November 30 1974 Block Juha Sorva Thu December 02 1976 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 05 1968 Sagittarius Michele Wellck December 08 Sagittarius Jeremy J. Corry Fri December 11 1970 Sagittarius Renee Canada Tue December 13 1977 Sagittarius Julie C. Kammerzell Sun December 15 1968 Sagittarius/Scorpio combo Gloria Jackson-Nefertiti Sat December 15 1956 queen_nefertiti@prodigy.net - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:35:06 -0800 (PST) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: Tom McRae Hi.. Have to agree with Adam about Tom McRae..Have heard one track on a sampler and its beautiful. Worth checking out I'm sure. Anna Maria Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 05:34:39 -0800 (PST) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: Diamanda Hi.. Does anyone know an artist with a voice in Diamanda Galas' league and a similar approach to music who's a bit more accessible? Anna Maria np-Ingy-Unlikely Heroes nr-Ed Mc Bain-big bad city Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:04:43 -0800 From: Phil Hudson Subject: RE: michey Kwoting Kerrywhite... (hi Kerry!) " ->Gay in the EARLY Catholic Church!! Have never heard anything about Shakespeare other than his being one of several people!" Apropos of very little constructive, I believe a female literary writer from the 30s was once quoted as saying " Everyone knows Shakespeare sucked Bacon dry", but I don't think she was consciously referring to the bard's sexual proclivities. I forget the name of the speaker, it may have been Clemence Dane ( when you only have sixteen brain cells you have to be selective about what you remember), her nickname was Winifred, and she was famous for her outrageous faux pas, which were called Winifred's Bloomers. End of short phase of startling, beautific lucidity. Back to the day's work. Regards to all, especially the newcomers to the list. BTW: Congratulations to HR and all involved with the new website I believe Shelly Deforte had quite a lot to do with it? It looks great, and I'm about ready to order some additions to my HR collection. Thanks to all who made it happen. Phil NL: Equipoise,non-stop, courtesy of the delightful Karen Hester, who generously mailed it to me for free all the way from New Zealand. Ectos are SUCH cool people! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:44:41 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Shameless self-promotion and gloating Hi, all-- Please forgive this, but I just saw the first review for my new book and I'm extremely excited: http://www.poets.ca/pshstore/cata1/graham.htm It's also the Editor's Pick: http://www.poets.ca/pshstore/store.htm. In many ways I ought to have acknowledged the influence of Veda, Happy, Kathleen Yearwood, and many many other ecto favourites' music on this book. I'm working on a promotional sampler, so if you're interested in receiving a copy, please email me your snail mail address, and I'll send it along in about 10 days when it's ready. You can also check out samples online, which are all linked at http://www.sff.net/people/neile/poetrybooks.htp or http://www.alsopreview.com/graham/ngraham.html Whoo hoo! - --Neile n.p. PJ Harvey, Stories from the City, Stories From the Sea - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:12:20 -0800 From: Phil Hudson Subject: Fun questions continued What about the worst, or most murderous covers of HR songs that one could possibly imagine? Coyote covers, the kind of sonic assault that could make you gnaw off your own ears sooner than listen to any more? Perhaps the Mel Torme scat version of "Temporary and Eternal"? Ever hear him do "Jeepers Creepers"? ( Shudder) Bill Murray in Bad Lounge Act persona, doing "If So"? The Aerosmith version of "SOS" William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy doing "Ecto" c Now that I've given you all the creeps, go find some more of your own. Phil NP: Tiny Tim's version of "Wretches Gone Awry" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:53:32 -0500 From: Chuck Davis Subject: RE: here's a fun question... >Hola everybody!! >I thought it might be fun to start new thread... >so... here goes.. >*********************************************************************** >If you were to put out the perfect Kate Bush tribute album, who would be on it. what songs would they do, and why????? >that sounds like fun.. huh?? > I'm kinda partial to a couple of covers that have been done already: Wuthering Heights......Pat Benatar from "Crimes of Passion" Man With the Child in His Eyes.....Velvet Belly from "Lucia" C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:54:50 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: Fun questions continued Phil Hudson wrote: >Perhaps the Mel Torme scat version of "Temporary and Eternal"? Politics is one thing, but there are ideas that even the ecto list shouldn't tolerate... :-) pb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:02:26 -0300 From: "Julio Ortega" Subject: i got myself HR cds I just got four HR cds: equipoise, colossus, many worlds, and warpaint Im pretty new to happy, and i hope these cds get to me soon!! wish me luck on that one!! julio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:17:55 -0800 From: Phil Hudson Subject: RE: Fun questions continued It's stuck in my head, the entire arrangement, 180 beats per minute, cool zippy hi-hat and walking accoustic bass, complete with all the perky little "deebie-doo-wahs"! Gnawing off own ears would have no effect. This is hard wired to my neural cortex. Help. phil NP: Mel Torme's Greatest Hits from the Halls of Hell. - -----Original Message----- From: Paul Blair [mailto:ciriwe@phobot.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:55 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Re: Fun questions continued Phil Hudson wrote: >Perhaps the Mel Torme scat version of "Temporary and Eternal"? Politics is one thing, but there are ideas that even the ecto list shouldn't tolerate... :-) pb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:21:53 -0800 (PST) From: John Drummond Subject: Re: Diamanda > Does anyone know an artist with a voice in Diamanda > Galas' league and a similar approach to music who's > a bit more accessible? The Australian singer Kerri Simpson... her voice is uncannily like Diamanda's in certain instances... however, most of her songs are in a more hard rock ballad vein... her song "Painting Blue Soldiers" is so 80s hair metal but she really can sing so well, so she somethefuckhow gets away with it. I only have her debut EP _Vivi_ and her first full-length _The arousing_... she's certainly not the absolute out-and-out musical genius that Diamanda Galas is, but hey, only Diamanda can be Diamanda... Kerri is on the middle ground between Polly Harvey, Diamanda Galas, and, like, Pat Benatar... if such a thing can be believed. The Ectophile's Guide has a good entry on her. I recommend her, but I definitely admit having described her to my friends as DG singing Pat B. Part of it is its schlock value... however, she's released an album of old blues standards that I'm going to get around to ordering one of these damn days, because I'm sure she'd really be able to breathe fire into those songs... purely as a singer, she's extraordinarily formidable, there's no denying that, and on that level, I cannot say anything bad about her... but her similarity to DG vocally and her absolute dissimilarity to DG's whole musical approach as far as composition goes just kind of makes me laugh and shake my head, since I was a rabid Diamanda fan long before I heard Kerri. Anyhow. Hey, y'all! John ===== - - John Drummond "[O]ne of Abaton's favorite young men[!!!]" - L. Bortz Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:53:37 -0800 From: Billi Mazur Subject: Re: Shameless self-promotion and gloating Congratulations Neile!!! Neile Graham wrote: > Hi, all-- > > Please forgive this, but I just saw the first review for my new book and > I'm extremely excited: http://www.poets.ca/pshstore/cata1/graham.htm It's > also the Editor's Pick: http://www.poets.ca/pshstore/store.htm. > > In many ways I ought to have acknowledged the influence of Veda, Happy, > Kathleen Yearwood, and many many other ecto favourites' music on this book. > > I'm working on a promotional sampler, so if you're interested in receiving > a copy, please email me your snail mail address, and I'll send it along in > about 10 days when it's ready. You can also check out samples online, > which are all linked at http://www.sff.net/people/neile/poetrybooks.htp or > http://www.alsopreview.com/graham/ngraham.html > > Whoo hoo! > > --Neile > > n.p. PJ Harvey, Stories from the City, Stories From the Sea > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net > Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines > The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:45:34 -0500 From: meredith Subject: susan werner in ny Hi! Just a quick note that Susan Werner is going to be in the New York City area the next couple days. Tomorrow (Thursday) night she's playing at Makor in NYC at 7 pm. Friday night she's at the Towne Crier Cafe in Pawling, NY at 8 pm. Svetlana's shows are really cooking lately, particularly if you like what she does at the piano. Hope to see lots of you there... +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:02:56 EST From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: by what standard? In a message dated 11/13/00 11:03:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org writes: << Everyone should be entitled to love as they choose as long as its between consenting adults. << First of all I would like to say that this is in no way intended as a jab at anyone's sexual orientations, in fact far from it, I am simply using this statement to bring up a fairly general philisophical question. You hear these phrases like "anyone should be entitled to love as they choose as long as its between consenting adults" and "that is the right thing to do because it is moral" and "It's alright to do as long as no one is harmed by it". I have just always wondered, by what standard? Religious people say things like "well, because God says so" and things like that, but what if you don't believe in God? Then what makes anything wrong and anything right other than we might prefer a certain type of behaviour over another in our society? How is it that charitable work is any better than theft other than the fact that almost anyone tends to see charitable work as being a more admirable activity? Is everything we see as right and wrong really just because humans beings made it that way, or is there some fixed moral order? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:53:56 -0800 From: Billi Mazur Subject: Re: michey I would also like to congratulate and thank Happy, Shelly, and Michael for the wonderful new Happy web site! It really does look great! Phil Hudson wrote: > BTW: Congratulations to HR and all involved with the new website > I believe Shelly Deforte had quite a lot to do with it? > It looks great, and I'm about ready to order some additions to my HR > collection. Thanks to all who made it happen. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #344 **************************