From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #290 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, September 29 2000 Volume 06 : Number 290 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Rita Ribeiro [Neal Copperman ] RE: the day the solid format died [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] sandra bogerd, losing today [anna maria "stjärnell" ] Niamh Parson's _Loosely Connected_ ["Bill" ] RE: songs and associations (warning - long!) ["Loretta Pontillo" ] Re: Rita Ribeiro ["Rosana L. de Oliveira" ] Re: Rita Ribeiro ["Rosana L. de Oliveira" ] Re: Rita Ribeiro [Neal Copperman ] Brazilian music: Smoke City [Neile Graham ] RE: project lo next week ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] Re: Brazilian music: Smoke City [Neal Copperman ] Napster humor [Phil Hudson ] Re: Brazilian music: Smoke City [Bill ] nearly everything [Jerene Waite ] Lindsay Buckingham [tenthvictim@mindspring.com] Re: Hypothetical question really [Juha Sorva Subject: Re: Rita Ribeiro At 9:32 PM -0700 9/27/00, Bill Mazur wrote: >One of my favorite jazz/pop/Brazilian singers is Astrud Gilberto. Which, >if any, >of the singers that you have been discussing is similiar in style to Astrud? I >love her smooth, silky, and sensuous singing voice. I haven't heard Zelia Duncan, but I suspect you'd enjoy Marisa Monte. I'm not very familiar with Astrud, but I believe this is in a vaguely similar vein. You might actually be able to find her new album in listening stations in places like Borders that carry a fair amount of world music. neal np: unhinged - Roy Harper ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:03:59 -0500 (CDT) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: RE: the day the solid format died Hi, Curved Air!! Are you [talkin'] 'bout Terry Rileys' Rainbow in Curved Air or the first album by Curved Air- which I think I had but don't remember anything neat about the vinyl. Just love the cover to Al Stewert's Past, Present, and Future (a Hipgnosis cover) and J Tull's Beast and the Broadsword - I have a 3' x4' ad poster of it...also have a fullsize poster of KaTe's The Dreaming. I started my Van Der Graff Generator/ Peter Hammil collection by buying Least we Can do Is Wave To Each Other (maybe wrong- I remember the Blake quote it is from) just for it's cover, tho' it really isn't a neat cover. I still have my copy of the Hawkwind Log, which would never work in 4.75 size. bye, KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: sandra bogerd, losing today Hi.. Check out Sandra Bogerd at mp3.com. She is like a groovy cross between Danielle Dax, Bjork and Dead can Dance. There's a new issue of a magazine called Losing Today..on the cover is Heather Duby! Also includes cd compilation..at losingtoday.com. Anna Maria np-amy x neuburg-Utehcma __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:56:17 -0700 From: "Bill" Subject: Niamh Parson's _Loosely Connected_ All the talk about Niamh Parson's _Loosely Connected_ album prompted me to dig the disc out and give it a spin. It had been ages. Well, the album is really quite nice. I had forgotten how nice. Or maybe my tastes changed in the years in between. At any rate, I feel as if I just got a present in the mail, and it was a CD by a woman with a lovely voice doing Irish-style songs accompanied by a full band. Niamh Parsons. Loosely Connected. What a great feeling to find a great CD hiding right in your CD collection. - - Bill G. np: Niamh Parson - Loosely Connected ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:15:03 -0400 From: "Loretta Pontillo" Subject: RE: songs and associations (warning - long!) Bill M. wrote (in response to Amanda's lovely post): Certain music stamps an indelible mark on one's fond remembrance of the key moments of their life. Other people just walk through life without really paying much attention to the music around them at all. Very interesting... And I, Loretta, must add, that a few summers ago, I lived with a Chinese woman -- a woman who had grown up in China and moved to the US only a few years ago. Her "American" name was Maggie (her chinese name was lovely, but she only told me two days before she left, so I forget it now, but I don't know why she didn't just tell me that straight off, but that's neither here nor there). Anyway, "Maggie" had grown up without music. That's what she said. I don't know what kind of conditions exist in China, whether this is common or just her life or what, and I don't mean to make an anti-China statement or anything, I'm just telling you the story. And apparently she just never, ever heard music as a child or young woman. Now, at the age of 30, she could barely tell different kinds of music apart. She couldn't remember tunes after she heard them. And even sadder, she just didn't enjoy music at all. Isn't that awful? It just couldn't get past her ears. I guess I'm lucky I grew up with my grandma teaching me to play piano and stuff. take care, Loretta ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:58:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Hypothetical question really Hi, I just wondered about something - (this is for europeans only btw): If Happy was going to do a concert somewhere in Europe - how far would you consider going just to see her live? - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:49:31 -0400 From: "Rosana L. de Oliveira" Subject: Re: Rita Ribeiro At 10:06 PM 09/27/2000 -0700, Bill G. wrote: Hello, >Interesting thing is, any time that I mention Astrud Gilberto to a carioca >(Brazilian person), they say "Astrud who???". Apparently Astrud, although >famous in the US for her smooth, silky, sensous, and most often than not >*English* singing, is little-known in her motherland of Brasil (no, that >wasn't a typo). > >Am I right? Yes, that happens, there are some Brazilian singers that have managed to achieve more success outside Brazil than among Brazilians. There is another singer here known as Tom Zé who also seems to be much better known in the US than in Brazil. It seems that it's even easier to find his albums in the US than here. At least I've seen a variety of them at Virgin Megastore in NYC. Another example that I could list would be the melodic metal band Angra. And also the big famous heavy metal band Sepultura became famous here after they had become known abroad first. It may sound strange, but it happens that an artist, failing to be successful here first, turns to the foreign market. Regards, Rosana rioliv@br.homeshopping.com.br http://www.geocities.com/jerayna - ------- n.p. Sheila Chandra - Out On My Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:50:15 -0400 From: "Rosana L. de Oliveira" Subject: Re: Rita Ribeiro At 09:32 PM 09/27/2000 -0700, Bill Mazur wrote: Hello again, >One of my favorite jazz/pop/Brazilian singers is Astrud Gilberto. Which, if any, >of the singers that you have been discussing is similiar in style to Astrud? I >love her smooth, silky, and sensuous singing voice. Hmmm, of the two that we were discussing, Marisa Monte would be a safer bet. I'm not familiar with Astrud Gilberto's music (her husband, Joăo Gilberto is very famous here, though, and known as one of the fathers of bossa nova), but I've read that her style ranges between bossa nova and jazz and Marisa Monte has a few songs in this style. If you like bossa nova, though, I can recommend you one of our greatest female bossa nova singers, Nara Leăo. Have you heard of her? She had a very smooth voice and a very calm way of singing... one could feel quite relaxed just by hearing her sing. Regards, Rosana rioliv@br.homeshopping.com.br http://www.geocities.com/jerayna - ------- n.p. Sheila Chandra - Out On My Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:09:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Rita Ribeiro On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Rosana L. de Oliveira wrote: > Yes, that happens, there are some Brazilian singers that have managed to > achieve more success outside Brazil than among Brazilians. There is another > singer here known as Tom Zé who also seems to be much better known in the > US than in Brazil. Yup, Tom Ze was one of the Brazilian artists I owned. I've seen a good half dozen of his discs in stores. > It may sound strange, but it > happens that an artist, failing to be successful here first, turns to the > foreign market. It's been known to happen here too, particularly with jazz, blues and roots artists, who don't seem to be so popular in the US anymore, but can be wildly popular in Europe and Japan. neal np: Life is Sweet - Maria McKee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:00:28 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Brazilian music: Smoke City For ectronica/trip hop/drum'n'bass/downbeat/acid jazz/whatever the box you put around this type of music lovers who are interested in Brazilian music, the band Smoke City offers a wonderful taste of Brazilian influences. The singer is half-Brazilian, half-English and their song "underwater love" (and actually the whole _Flying Away_ album that this track is on) is great--inventive, melodic, and the singer has a wonderful voice. They also have a track on the _Red Hot and Rhapsody_ album. Highly recommended. (Neal, have you listened to that track yet?) - --Neile n.p. Purr Machine _Ging Ging_ again - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:38:14 -0400 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: RE: project lo next week Meth, I've been to Brass City Records many times and I still don't know where they put the performing acts. I know they've done it before, and I've meant to go, but just haven't made it yet. But that's my boring old self's fault. Definitely want to be there for this one. Good thing you posted, the date had slipped my mind thus far. As for places to meet in Waterbury... a couple of ideas, although I don't frequent there much. There's a bar/restaurant called Maggie McFly's in Middlebury pretty easy access from I-84. There's a bar/restaurant called San Marino fairly easy off Rte 8 (I think!) in Waterbury, closer to the store. I'll try to do a little research for others. (Should be a decent Portugese restaurant somewhere nearby). If anyone else is coming and needs directions, talk to me. Brass City can be tricky to find the first time you go looking for it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:55:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Brazilian music: Smoke City On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Neile Graham wrote: > For ectronica/trip hop/drum'n'bass/downbeat/acid jazz/whatever the box you > put around this type of music lovers who are interested in Brazilian music, > the band Smoke City offers a wonderful taste of Brazilian influences. The > singer is half-Brazilian, half-English and their song "underwater love" > (and actually the whole _Flying Away_ album that this track is on) is > great--inventive, melodic, and the singer has a wonderful voice. > > They also have a track on the _Red Hot and Rhapsody_ album. > > Highly recommended. (Neal, have you listened to that track yet?) heh heh... as I was reading that paragraph, I was thinking, hmmm, that song sounds familiar. I bet it's on one of those sampler discs that Neile made for me. If you'd read the snailmail letter I wrote last night and stuck in your package (which I have yet to address and mail), you'd know I haven't had a chance to listen to those yet :) I wonder if I own Red Hot and Rhapsody? neal np: Senor Blues - Taj Mahal (I think I am only listening to music with extra characters (diacritical marks?) in the title or artist's name.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:07:49 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: Napster humor Those who have followed the Napster soaps may appreciate this. Phil http://bbspot.com/News/2000/9/phonics_cat.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:23:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Subject: Re: Brazilian music: Smoke City On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Neal Copperman wrote: > np: Senor Blues - Taj Mahal wow, I am pleased to see one of my favorite non-ectos in here... - - Bill G. np: Men Without Pants - Men Without Pants (it was love at first sight...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:03:00 -0700 From: Jerene Waite Subject: nearly everything Someone mentioned this as a possibility, but no one else has admitted to doing it yet. When my boyfriend and I began to cohabitate, the house was not big enough for our things. So we bought a house which was advertised as "having enough bookshelves for all your books". We laughed, because we didn't think it possible. But it was. Not only for all our books, but all our cds, lps, videos, cassette tapes, and more. (We have a few doodads taking up the empty space where future books and cds will go.) I made some cards which are bigger than cds to separate the letters of the alphabet. This was intended to encourage my refiling the cds in the correct alphabetical order. If I only returned one cd at a time, it might work. But since I usually have a handful at least, they get stacked until I get into housecleaning mode. (Books are shelved by size and "look", plus the To-Be-Read shelf.) My favorite lp cover was dark red velvet with gold stamped title, double album: Odessa by the BeeGees (b4 disco). My most recent wail of unconsolable despair upon reading an ecto digest LATE was due to the fact that I found I had missed Melissa Ferrick performing in San Diego by 6 days..... I remember the evening I went to L.A. and heard her perform at the coffee house she frequented. I arrived early and ordered food for dinner. The young woman who brought it to my table turned out to be Melissa Ferrick. She looked so much better than and different from the pictures on her first 2 cds! The e-book must be no heavier than the real book and must not break if I drop it. Presumably the bookmark would be less likely to fall out. I played Tusk repetitively while commuting to grad school. The first typical hallmark of repetitive playing is when I begin to get a little sick of the music. But with continued playing, I get beyond this point to where I know and can sing every word, harmony, beat, silence. This is only possible if one is alone, because it drives others batty. Years later, I can almost do that still, but the words might transmute to something that sounds similar and maybe some of the transitions get confused.... I recently put Tusk the lp onto a cd. It didn't fit. Did I forget anything? Oh yes. I keep a battery-run analog alarm clock for when I go on business trips. Too often, the hotel alarm is undependable and I don't trust wakeup calls. You probably didn't want to even know that. - --Jerene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:24:30 -0500 From: tenthvictim@mindspring.com Subject: Lindsay Buckingham I'm glad Lindsay Buckingham's name came up. I think "Out of the Cradle" is a great album. The sound textures are fine, the music is memorable, etc., etc. A friend of mine says, "Oh, he's arrogant," everytime she sees the "Cradle" cd on my desk. My retort is, "I would be arrogant, too, if I could play guitar, sing, and write songs like that." Doesn't hurt to be a millionare either. For an arrogant person, he certainly is a fine representative of Everyman. That's why he's good, because he is everyone who has ever had his heart broken, by a woman or by God. Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:09:00 +0300 From: Juha Sorva Subject: Re: Hypothetical question really Hello, On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Yngve Hauge wrote: > If Happy was going to do a concert somewhere in Europe - how far would you > consider going just to see her live? *Just* to see her live, perhaps not so terribly far, even though I've bee known to travel abroad with music as one of the main incentives. But it would probably be easy to combine at least a short vacation with such a trip. So: Northern Europe: anytime Middle or Southern Europe: possibly, given sufficient advance warning Rather hypothetical indeed, isn't it, though? :-/ Juha (taking a ferry to Stockholm today to see Diamanda Galás) n.p. Angizia: _Das Schachbrett des Trommelbuben Zacharias_ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #290 **************************