From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #209 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, July 20 2000 Volume 06 : Number 209 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Amy Denio [neal copperman ] marlee macleod [neal copperman ] re: upcoming ectogathering opportunities ["Tom Ditto" ] It's true! (fwd) [Amanda Williams ] Re: Amy Denio [meredith ] Re: Spamster Spasms [Dave Williamson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:31:40 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Amy Denio I can't help but crow a bit, as my next house concert will be Amy Denio! It'll be this Sunday afternoon. I don't think anyone in ectoland is within driving distance of Albuquerque though. It's a shame, as it should be a very interesting afternoon. neal np: liquid - recoil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:29:51 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: marlee macleod Jeff made a brief mention of the house concert we had last week with Marlee. This turned out to be a lot of fun. I was a little worried when we went to see Marlee the night before at a local bar. They were completely plugged in, with a full drum kit, and electric bass and guitar. I knew they were bringing the whole band to the house, and I figured they'd blow the place away. However, Marlee played accoustic, the bass player just sang backup, and the drummer pretty much improvised a small, quiet set-up. The used bundles of wooden sticks, and just played the case of one of his drums, as well as a few percussion pieces that he sat on my papasan's footrest. The contrast between the shows was pretty remarcable, and it was really fun to have the chance to see both performances. At the bar, it was much more of a rock and roll show. I think Marlee sounds a bit like Lucinda Williams, and her music has a strong hint of Americana in it, though it leans more towards pop (or maybe folk-pop) than country. My hands down favorite song is the pop-punk singalong "Mata Hari Dress" from her album Vertigo. This was particularly interesting when she played it at the house concert, in it's first every accoustic performance. The songs opened up a bit more when performed accoustically too. I haven't had a chance to absorb all the albums of hers that I've picked up, but I'd recommend them to folks. I think there are some soundsamples on her page (www.marleemacleod.com). The audience was a bit sparse for this show (only 7 people), but the performers seemed to be having a great time. Besides, there were 7 people who were paying close attention, whereas in the bar there were only 3 to 5 of us who were actually listening intently. So in that sense, the audience was bigger. neal np: liquid - recoil (I'm surprised I haven't heard any mentions of this. I picked it up about a month ago, and it's a very interesting album. It's by one of the lesser known names from Depech Mode, who has apparently put out a few albums under the Recoil name on Mute. I picked this up cause it had a number of songs with words written and voiced by Nicole Blackman (featured prominantly on the spooky Golden Palomino's album "dead inside") and a couple of songs with Diamanda Galas (always interesting to hear what a collaborator will do with her). My particular favorite is a very bizarre tune called Jezebel, that features vocals by The Golden Gate Jubilee Quartet in a gospel vein, with backing vocals from Diamanda. It's amazing, and sounds oddly like Shriekback. Anyway, I highly recommend this.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:46:57 -0400 From: "Tom Ditto" Subject: re: upcoming ectogathering opportunities This would be the third year the Dittos have extended to you Ridge billies an opportunity to visit us nearby in Ancramdale, NY. Last night we had The Drears flying on the north wall of the barn using our recently resurrected laser projector. Our archives of ectophilia would astound and amuse. Tom ditto@taconic.net "Do you copy? Over..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:33:32 +1000 (EST) From: Amanda Williams Subject: It's true! (fwd) "A number of inaccurate comments have been made about me in recent articles which I am taking further. I just want everyone to know I am very happy and proud to have such a beautiful son, Bertie - he is absolutely gorgeous. Far from being secretive, I am just trying to be a good protective mother and give him as normal a childhood as possible whilst preserving his privacy - surely everyone can understand that. I am having great fun being a Mum as well as working on a new album" . . . For more info, take a look at: http://www.clubi.ie/twomey/katenews.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~000000000000000~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I will never be by violence constrained to do anything. I thank God I am indeed endowed with such qualities that if I were turned out of the realm in my petticoat I were able to live in any place in Christendom. - -Elizabeth I to her Parliament, responding to their Marriage Petition, 1566 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:50:34 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Amy Denio Hi! Neal gloated: >I can't help but crow a bit, as my next house concert will be Amy Denio! Hey Neal, I'll send Pamela Means out your way if you send Amy Denio out ours! :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:08:04 -0400 From: Dave Williamson Subject: Re: Spamster Spasms In the midst of one hell of a pile of noise that I'm still sifting through, this is the most level-headed post I've seen on this subject. Dave. jburka@min.net wrote: > vickie sez: > > > Napster has gotten me excited about sharing music again. Strange > > that my sharing music was in essence the reason this mailing list > > got started, and how so many people, at one point in time, learned > > about so many artists because of my sharing and my encouraging > > (which they did!!). It was ok then, but not now? > > We still share our insights about music here. We don't have to violate > copyright to do it. Many of the last bunch of discs I've bought have been > because of recommendations on ecto. If a description of something > intrigued me -- especially if it was from someone whose opinion I trust -- > I went to an artist or store website, downloaded samples which the artist > had made available, and made a determination for myself. This is sharing > new finds, this is sampling MP3s online before making a purchase, this is > supporting an artist. At what point was it necessary for someone to > disrepect the artist and their copyright by putting the entire album > online for easy searching and downloading via napster? Why on earth would > you trust the average 'net user to do the right thing and purchase an > album, and even if you did, why usurp the artist's right to do things the > way they want them done?! > > You're right, Vickie, I received tapes from you and I'm grateful that you > shared music with me -- especially Happy. But you never dubbed any Happy > albums for me, and you never gave me an album in a format that I could > easily turn into a CD, which has been my preferred media for almost 17 > years now. You also never gave me anything that I could share with 20 > million people with no effort and no loss of quality. I believe that > there is a significant distinction between the two acts. Why is that hard > to see? > > > but now see me as a low down, dirty thief, who ought to have my door > > batter-rammed down, my computer confiscated and my self be hauled off > > to jail, at the very least. > > > > When I first heard about napster many months ago, I looked at, decided > that it conflicted with the ethics by which I try to live (which includes > supporting indie artists to the extent that I can), and removed it from my > harddrive without up- or downloading anything. I'm responsible for my > actions, and I'm not interested in enabling others who may be less > scrupulous than I. Do I think Napster is inherently evil? Actually, > no. But I think it enables people to easily do things I find at the very > least distateful. > > > Whatever. I know my heart is pure. > > Fine. What, exactly, do you have to say about the other 20 million users? > > This whole argument is beyond tired, and I'm a little surprised that it's > still going on here. > > jeff ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #209 **************************