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ecto-digest          Saturday, June 10 2000          Volume 06 : Number 165



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Today's your birthday, friend...                 [Mike Matthews <matthewm>]
  Re: Samsonmusic              ["Mr. P. Kulawec" <P.Kulawec@liverpool.ac.uk>]
  RE: Bootlegging ones own shows   ["Martin G Bridges" <martin@mandab.co.uk>]
  RE: Bootlegging ones own shows  ["Foghorn J Fornorn" <foghornj@earthlink.n]
  RE: American Woman (and other loathesome tunes)  ["Foghorn J Fornorn" <fog]
  Napster and concerts                   [burp@mindspring.com (Scott Burger)]
  Re: Napster and concerts            [Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>]
  Re: American Woman (and other loathesome tunes)            [JavaHo@aol.com]
  Re: American Woman (and other loathesome tunes)  [Jay Behel <jbehel@rush.e]
  John Flansburgh on Napster                 [Sue Trowbridge <trow@slip.net>]
  Living Rooms and Musicians Wanted                        [Justduff@aol.com]
  Re: Napster                            [Dave Williamson <dlw@sympatico.ca>]
  Re: Napster                            [Dave Williamson <dlw@sympatico.ca>]
  Billie Myers                                          [RocketsTail@aol.com]
  Re: American Woman (and other loathesome tunes)  [I Am Not I <iamnoti@eart]
  Re: John Flansburgh on Napster      [Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>]
  Re: American Woman (and other loathesome tunes)  [Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metat]
  a bunch of patty griffin news                          [Songbird22@aol.com]

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 03:00:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Matthews <matthewm>
Subject: Today's your birthday, friend...

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   Gleb Zverev              Tue  June 09      1964     Gemini
   Sonja Juchniewich        Mon  June 10      1963     Pegasus
   Joerg Plate              Mon  June 12      1967     Gemini
   Chris Montville          Tue  June 13      1978     Gemini
   Ectoplasm (original name) Mailing List Thu  June 13      1991     Fuzzier blue
   Paul Huesman             Wed  June 14      1967     coffee drinker
   Mark R. Susskind         Wed  June 15      1966     Gemini
   Mike Matthews            Mon  June 16      1969     Dr. Firewall
   Albert Philipsen         Mon  June 17      1968     Gemini
   Neal R. Copperman        Thu  June 17      1965     Gemini
   Susan Kay Anderson       Tue  June 17      1969     Gemini
   Ecto-The Mailing List    Tue  June 18      1991     Fuzzy blue
   Tracy Barber             Mon  June 18      1956     Gemini
   Greg Dunn                Thu  June 18      1953     +
   Paul Blair               Thu  June 18      1964     Objectivist
   David Lubkin             Fri  June 20      1958     OurLady
   Marisa Wood              Fri  June 20      1969     Gemini
   Cheri Villines           Sun  June 20      1965     Gemini-Leo rising
   Ray Misra                Sat  June 20      1970     Gemini
   Nik Popa                 Sun  June 22      1969     Cancer
   Teresa VanDyne           Thu  June 23      1960     Cancer
   Dave Torok               Mon  June 24      1968     Cancer
   Ethan Straffin           Thu  June 24      1971     Cancer
   Kevin Dekan              Mon  June 27      1960     Cancer
   Samantha Tanner          Tue  June 30      1970     Wild Goose
   BunkyTom                 Tue  July 02      1968     Cancer
   Anders Hallberg          Tue  July 03      1962     Cancer
   Kevin Harkins            Thu  July 05      1973     Cancer
   Laurel Krahn             Mon  July 05      1971     Cancer
   John J Henshon           Mon  July 05      1954     The Year Of The Horse / Ruled By The Moon
   Jim Gurley               Mon  July 06      1959     Cancer
   Lisa Wilson              Fri  July 08      1960     Moonchild with Java Rising
   Courtney Dallas          Fri  July 09      1971     Catte
   Michael Peskura          Sat  July 09      1949     HallOfFamer
   Finney T. Tsai           Sat  July 09      1966     Cancer

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:00:36 +0100 (BST)
From: "Mr. P. Kulawec" <P.Kulawec@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Samsonmusic

Hi

To follow up my query about the reliabilty/speed of orders from Samson 
Music, I should now mention that they did eventually reply to my emails, 
and have sent me a copy very speedily by some form of courier service. 
Many thanks to them if they are reading.

peter

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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:36:24 +1000
From: "Martin G Bridges" <martin@mandab.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Bootlegging ones own shows

Fish (ex of Marillion) definitely released several "official bootlegs"
through The Company fanclub in the mid 90s.

Martin

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Mike
Connell
Sent: 09 June 2000 06:23
To: ecto@smoe.org
Subject: Bootlegging ones own shows


I don't know about the rest of you, but this concept intrigues me to no
end. I certainly hope this becomes a trend that catches on.

Mike :-)

In Tuesday's USA Today:

Pearl Jam plans to bootleg its own shows

In a one-paragraph announcement on its official Web site, Pearl Jam said it
will release a series of live bootleg recordings on two-CD sets. The band
plans to release complete shows from each concert on its current European
tour, potentially 25 album sets in all. The CDs will be available in August
at www.tenclub.net and later in stores.

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:21:24 -0400
From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" <foghornj@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Bootlegging ones own shows

There are several "official" bootlegs of King Crimson material available.
Robert Fripp's record company, DGM, even has a collector's club where you
can get even more of them. There's also a "Live in Mexico City" free
download available over the net. I think it's still available at the Artist
Shop site.

Fripp himself is notoriously anti-audience-taping. The irony there is that
many of the old "classic" Crimso recordings DGM now offers owes their very
existence to the audience tapers of the time whom Fripp has always
disparaged. He's taken their tapes/discs, cleaned them up digitally, and
released them himself.

I'm not 100% sure of this, but I believe the original "official bootleg"
credit goes to Gentle Giant, whose 1978 "Playing the Foole" set was released
as a reaction to the large number of inferior bootlegs available at the
time. I think there was an unofficial bootleg of the same or similar name
floating around too...

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:33:09 -0400
From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" <foghornj@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: American Woman (and other loathesome tunes)

Ooh, I think I smell a "name your most hated song(s)" thread forming here.

May I recommend Dave Barry's "Book of Bad Songs", where many of the older
ones have been covered.

Personally, my bane of all songs is one whose very mention causes it to
stick in my brain and ruin my day. Since I'm thinking of it as I write this,
the damage is done, so I may as well say it: "Seasons in the Sun".
Aaaaauuuuuuuugggggggghhhhhh!

Rats. I had such high hopes for today...

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:56:14 -0500
From: burp@mindspring.com (Scott Burger)
Subject: Napster and concerts

>Hmmmmm - no CDs, no ability to sell recorded music.  So just how much would
>you be willing to pay for admission to this wonderful new world of live music?
>
>Scott Burger wrote:
>
>> Personally, I am not going to cry if people buy less cds. I am hoping that
>> Napster and other programs will eventually help make music available to
>> anyone, anywhere.
>> And even if that is being naieve, I hope this stuff forces people to put a
>> premium on live shows. Maybe that will help touring artists make more of a
>> living, open more clubs, take the emphasis off looks and videos, etc.
>> -Scott

OK, I am going to give a little more backbone to my earlier post:

First of all, to paraphrase Fela Kuti, if music is the weapon of the future
then it first must be liberated. If Napster is the lock-pick to the
ammunition locker, then I am for Napster.

I hope less cds sell. I never liked them from the begining. If artists are
truly concerned about the loss of cd revenue due to mp3's, then
"back-format"- release tapes and vinyl records with elaborate packaging
that are not in a digital and not as easy to "rip" to a computer. Create
more of a package that adds value to the music and is worth collecting. If
artists and labels like Sony, Rounder and Rightious Babe are not nimble and
imaginative enough to come up with new ways to sell music, then let them
die and get out of the way.

Secondly, I cracked up while reading all the crybaby posts about lame
concert  grosses. Think about all the old blues musicians who toured
through the South making little to nothing. Think about all the punk bands
who have toured the country in crappy vans. I could go on. My point is, to
make a career as an original musician, you most likely will have to have a
gypsy lifestyle with little income. If you are extremely blessed, you might
gain fame and fortune. I recall an anecdote about a country singer, who
when asked by a roadie if he was going to play broken down roadhouses his
old life, replied, "If I am lucky".

I am hoping that if more 'canned' recorded music is free, more attention
will be given by audiences and artists to live concerts. This will slowly
turn around the dearth of small venues that are friendly to touring artists
and hopefully increase artist revenues from live concerts. I am also hoping
this will end major-label/commercial radio blandness, including the "indie"
bands that emulate that blandness. Hopefully this will mean an end to all
the idiotic "indie" artists who press a couple thousand cds without thought
to promotion or touring and wind up with more garbage for the landfill.
Hopefully this will challenge audiences to recognize true talent and not
just sit at home with MTV.

P.O. Box 14738 Richmond, VA 23221

P.O. Box 14738 Richmond, VA 23221

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:37:34 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: Napster and concerts

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:56:14PM -0500, Scott Burger wrote:
> Create
> more of a package that adds value to the music and is worth collecting.

I wonder how it would be if T-shirt vendors were told that they'd have
to give away their work for free, but could try to make money by making
music that reminds people of the shirts.

There's an interesting article on Slashdot today on "Why We Think
Music Should Be Free"
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/06/06/0254252&mode=nocomment

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 18:28:07 EDT
From: JavaHo@aol.com
Subject: Re: American Woman (and other loathesome tunes)

foghornj@earthlink.net writes:

<< Ooh, I think I smell a "name your most hated song(s)" thread forming here. 
>>

Ooooohhhhh, pick me! Pick me!

Where shall I begin???

Keep Your Hands to Yourself (or whatever it was called) by Georgia Satellites
Paradise By the Dashboard Lights by Meatloaf
Any Styx song that featured Dennis DeYoung anywhere near a vocal mic. (Kind 
of like their other stuff with JY and Tommy Shaw)
Pretty much anything by Bachman Turner Overdrive
Ditto for Loverboy and all of those poser corporate rock bands of the 70's 
and 80's

I know there's more, but it's Friday and my brain is tired. I'll be back, 
though.

Lisa

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Jay Behel <jbehel@rush.edu>
Subject: Re: American Woman (and other loathesome tunes)

Anything by Jimmy Buffet or Don McClean.

Jay

On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 18:28:07 EDT JavaHo@aol.com wrote:
>foghornj@earthlink.net writes:
>
><< Ooh, I think I smell a "name your most hated song(s)" thread 
forming here. 
>>>
>
>Ooooohhhhh, pick me! Pick me!
>
>Where shall I begin???
>
>Keep Your Hands to Yourself (or whatever it was called) by Georgia 
Satellites
>Paradise By the Dashboard Lights by Meatloaf
>Any Styx song that featured Dennis DeYoung anywhere near a vocal 
mic. (Kind 
>of like their other stuff with JY and Tommy Shaw)
>Pretty much anything by Bachman Turner Overdrive
>Ditto for Loverboy and all of those poser corporate rock bands of the 
70's 
>and 80's
>
>I know there's more, but it's Friday and my brain is tired. I'll be back, 
>though.
>
>Lisa


Jay M. Behel, Ph.D.

\"When I dare to be powerful-to use my strength in the service of my 
vision, then it begins to matter less and less whether I am afraid.\"
				Audre Lorde

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sue Trowbridge <trow@slip.net>
Subject: John Flansburgh on Napster

I've enjoyed the Napster-related links Joseph Z. and others have posted
here, so here's another article, written by TMBG's John Flansburgh:

http://www.inside.com/story/Premium_Story_Cached/0,2771,5486,00.html

By the way, it's interesting to note that loathesome rapper Eminem's new
album became the 2nd best selling new release OF ALL TIME (behind N'Sync's
recent CD) last week. Kids bought almost two million copies of the disc
despite the fact that you can undoubtedly download the tracks on Napster
from hundreds of sources. So I guess owning the object itself is still
important to some folks. Sheesh, I can't wait for the day when Eminem is
considered about as hip & popular as Vanilla Ice...

- --Sue Trowbridge	*	albany, california
  trow@slip.net		*	http://www.interbridge.com

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 20:46:44 EDT
From: Justduff@aol.com
Subject: Living Rooms and Musicians Wanted

Hi, It's Duff and I have begun to set up a series of Living Room Tours for 
July through
October and you should sign up! Currently I am sending out Stephanie Hewett 
and along the way various musicians have been signing up to play at these 
special events.
- -----------------------------
Thanks to Mr. BB here's a history of the LRT phenomenon.

Back in April of 97, Cindy Lee Berryhill and Elizabeth Hummel were on a 
US tour together and doing a gig in Cambridge, MA. Their next gig, two 
nights later, was scheduled for Albany, NY (a very long drive). They 
discovered that the Albany venue mistakenly advertised their gig on the 
wrong date, so rather than drive all that way for a certain wash-out 
gig, they contacted members of the Jewel list and suggested doing an 
impromptu gig in the Boston area, if The EDAs could provide a venue and 
there was enough interest. 

Amazingly, within 24 hours The Snyder family in Boston volunteered their 
home and approximately 25 people from around New England descended on the 
Snyders home with food, drink and piles of audio and video equipment. 

At first, everyone was a little anxious not knowing what to really 
expect, especially the musicians. As we eased into the performance, 
everybody relaxed and began totally getting into the spontaneity of the 
moment. 

This intimate approach dramatically changed the dynamics between 
performer and audience. The musicians were totally getting off on the 
fact that everyone really was there to listen and the audience 
experienced a "one on one" closeness not experienced in a "traditional 
setting" type performance. 

Total communication between us all inspired Cindy Lee and Elizabeth to 
play for almost 4 solid hours and everyone (including them) left a bit 
stunned and amazed at how great it was! It was certainly the most 
memorable night of their tour. Shortly after this, the musicians, myself 
and several other friends here on this list, began discussing the 
viability of doing a revolutionary approach to touring and somehow 
facilitate more of what happened in Boston. The idea was to cut out "all 
the suits", i.e., management, promoters, agents, etc., and book a summer 
tour directly into fans homes. I won't get into all the details but this 
was done and it was a huge success! Shows were booked in various EDA 
homes around Northeastern USA, promoted by fans on the Internet and a
ttended by hundreds of people over the course of the tour. 

Every date was incredibly special in its own way. Some shows were 
actually in living rooms and several were outdoors in yards. Each 
attendee paid $10 toward the musicians. 

This "LRT Concept" has taken focus primarily with San Diego and Boston 
area musicians, but is continually expanding. 

Musicians who've participated in LRT gigs include members of The 
Rugburns, Joy Eden Harrison, Gregory Page, Lisa Sanders, Mary Dolan, 
Randi Driscoll, Cindy Wasserman, Peggy Watson, Jody Blackwell, Jenny 
Bruce, Renatta Bratt, Kevin So, Eric Gerber and of course Elizabeth 
Hummel and Cindy Lee Berryhill (and now even CLB's entire Garage 
Orchestra). 

Almost everything so far has been recorded and there exists an extensive 
archive of the LRTs so far. Some video clips will eventually be on 
various websites and some of the recordings have been released (with 
authorization) on the "Future Folklore" tape series, which itself was 
inspired by that 1st "LRT gig" in Boston. Other authorized releases will 
be forthcoming. 

This "LRT scene" continues to generate incredible interest. Many 
musicians have expressed interest for future LRT's, including fairly 
high profile artists like Freedy Johnston, Patty Griffin and Tara 
MacLean. Every musician who's done it, definitely wants to do it again. 
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am currently working with Stephanie Hewett to hear her music via MP3 or 
more infor check out her website at www.stephaniehewett.com. 

There are some people born into this world with a special talent as a 
musician. As the years pass, life seeks to find this talent and ignite its 
expression. For Stephanie, music lives inside her spirit and is released 
through thythm and harmony of her songs. Born in rural Kansas, Stephanie grew 
up in a small farming community. She began piano lessons at age 5 and drew 
inspiration from jazz and rock classics, the sound Stephanie would later 
claim as her own was emerging. It was during college that longed to leave the 
orchestra, where she played a bass, and let loose to experiment without 
boundaries. Stephanie broke away from what she felt were the stiff rules of 
standard music and is currently working on a new album due out this summer.
- -------------------------------
A Living Room Show is an informal concerts, usually in people's homes, where 
20 or more people can sit comfortably to enjoy an initmate concert. Its a 
great way to bring a musician to your town.

Living Room Host Provide:
Space that can fit at 20 or more folks comfortable. Can be in your home or 
even a local community center, meeting space, your garage, or outside. 
20 or more music-loving guests ($10 suggested donation per person) 
Electricity, help unloading and other small tasks the day of the concert. 
Maybe drinks and/or food. Maybe not. 

 E-mail me with any questions you might have or for a few various ideas about 
how to set up a show check out these websites. 
http://www.island.net/~oldfolk/housecon.htm
http://alanr.lpl.org/ProductionTips.html
http://ifolk.org/hc/houseconcerts-02.html#TopOfPage

Musicians: Please respond as soon as possible to find out about the nearest 
show to you and coordinating on the show dates/times. 

Thanks,
Duff

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Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 21:19:30 -0400
From: Dave Williamson <dlw@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Napster

If you believe Napster users are consumers, than you and I have a very different
definition of consumer.  There have, and always will be consumers.  There have, and
always will be freeloaders...

Ted wrote:

> Critical awareness starts here:
> Napster users *are* the consumers of the present and of the future.
> How we evolve to serve them will determine our place on the food chain.

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Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 21:30:51 -0400
From: Dave Williamson <dlw@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Napster

Couldn't have said it better myself.  Like what you like for your own reasons -
what does it matter if just you, 10, 1 million, or 100 million others like the
same thing?

glenn mcdonald wrote:

> > Too big for you.  (or me, since I tend to agree with you.)  Obviously
> > not too big for hundreds of thousands of others, but too big for
> > those of us that crave the intimacy you discuss in our music.
>
> But surely you see what doesn't make sense in this argument. You say you
> crave intimacy in your music, but when more people buy a record, the record
> doesn't change. _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_ and _Pieces of You_ and _Jagged
> Little Pill_ (and _Pygmalion_ and _Little Misery Birds_ and _Warpaint_) are
> exactly as intimate, today, as they were the day they quietly appeared. The
> concerts may change, the fan mail may not get answered as quickly (or at
> all), but if you and the music, alone in your living room, change, that has
> to be *your* doing. Letting popularity distort your tastes in either
> direction is, I suspect, more often than not a form of snobbery. Ecto seems
> particularly vulnerable to it, and it's nothing to be proud of. Have the
> strength of your convictions: like what you like, no matter how obscure *or*
> ubiquitous.
>
> glenn

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:34:44 EDT
From: RocketsTail@aol.com
Subject: Billie Myers

 Billie Myers has a new album out...I haven't bought it yet but I plan to.  
Even though I can't stand to listen to her only hit "Kiss the Rain", her 
debut album "Growing Pains" is soooo good! I just popped it in for the first 
time in a long time and I forgot how great she was! -Eric

"I'd stay home at night all the time
 I'd go anywhere, anywhere
 Ask me because I care"
                ~Stevie Nicks

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Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:46:05 -0700
From: I Am Not I <iamnoti@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: American Woman (and other loathesome tunes)

Foghorn J Fornorn wrote:

> Personally, my bane of all songs is one whose very mention causes it to
> stick in my brain and ruin my day. Since I'm thinking of it as I write this,
> the damage is done, so I may as well say it: "Seasons in the Sun".
> Aaaaauuuuuuuugggggggghhhhhh!

You name the song, but can you name the singer?

Personally, I could live without hearing REO Speedwagon ever again.

Daniel
- --
"When you're 10, and a car drives by and splashes water all
over you, it's hard to decide if you should go to school, or
go home and change and probably be late. So while he was
trying to decide, I drove by and splashed him again."
- - Jack Handey

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 22:01:00 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: John Flansburgh on Napster

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 04:52:20PM -0700, Sue Trowbridge wrote:
> 
> I've enjoyed the Napster-related links Joseph Z. and others have posted
> here, so here's another article, written by TMBG's John Flansburgh:
> 
> http://www.inside.com/story/Premium_Story_Cached/0,2771,5486,00.html

Thanks for the link!

I find the most intriguing part of the article to be:

"If the labels were smart -- which might 
requiring hiring someone to think
 for them -- they might want to skip over the
MP3 model entirely and move directly to a
 satellite jukebox model with a cable TV-like
subscription plan, where listeners can stream
 virtually anything on demand, rendering the
concept of ownership meaningless. No endless
 download times, no clogging of hard drive
space -- and a transparent billing structure."

I could go for that -- much as I cherish my CD collection, it would
be a lot more convenient if I could just click and play anything
available, based on some sort of subscription or micropayment
structure.

I suspect that the role played by distributors now would turn into
aggregators. I buy a large percentage (perhaps a majority) of my 
new CDs frm Forced Exposure ( http://forcedexposure.com/ ), and would
subscribe to them if they became a similar music source in the new 
medium.

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| jzitt@metatronpress.com           http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt |
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 22:07:11 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: American Woman (and other loathesome tunes)

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 06:46:05PM -0700, I Am Not I wrote:
 
> You name the song, but can you name the singer?

Unfortunately, the name Terry Jacks is tatooed somewhere within my
trivia lobe...

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|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
| jzitt@metatronpress.com           http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt |
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:33:23 EDT
From: Songbird22@aol.com
Subject: a bunch of patty griffin news

here's a bunch of patty-related info i've been getting from her mailing list. 
 this new album should rock -- "little god" is SUCH an amazing song. :) All 
of the new songs I've heard are great. :)

first, a new photo -- possible album cover:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/9035/patty.jpg

And of course the album was produced by Jay Joyce (Wallflowers, Chantal 
Kreviazuk) who produced Flaming Red and is an amazing producer who fills 
albums with *heavy* sounds -- I've been listening to Chantal's new one which 
I like quite a bit, much more complex than her first album and the writing is 
stronger.  I have to say, though, that I find she screams/wails a *little* 
too much, but overall I love her voice...(sometimes, particularly in the last 
song on the disc, it sounds eerily like Tara MacLean's, in one verse 
especially). Anyway, the Patty stuff:

"At this time, it looks like the final sequence for the album will be the 
following songs:
Little God
Boston
Perfect White Girls
Truth #2
What You Are
Silver Bell
Driving
Sooner Or Later
Top Of The World
Sorry And Sad
Making Pies
Mother Of God
One More Girl
Standing

They [pg management] also sent this disclaimer.
"Naturally, the disclaimer is, as always, all this can change but its the 
truth for now"

As for the Dixie Chicks tour they say "the Chicks dates are going great and 
Patty is being
well received by their crowds.  all seem well and happy.  We have a new 
keyboard player on this
tour.  His name is Michael Ramos and he is from Austin.  John Deaderick, who
worked with Patty last year and played on the record is now working with the
Dixie Chicks so we all still get to hang out with him."

They are also looking into the possibility of Patty touring some with 
Emmylou Harris in the fall, but that is all in the prelim stages right now."


jessica

www.jessicaweiser.com | mp3.com/jessweiser

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