From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #53 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, February 24 2000 Volume 06 : Number 053 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Erin McKeown, Tara, Magnus, Buffy [Andrew Fries ] Re: Neile's Late 1999 Music Report 3/5 [Andrew Fries ] Re: Neile's Late 1999 Music Report 3/5 [Jeffrey Burka ] Songs about the Wee Folk [Juha Sorva ] Who wants these CDs? [Terra Incognita ] Re: Songs about the Wee Folk [Bill Adler ] Re: Songs about the Wee Folk [Juha Sorva ] Re: Songs about the Wee Folk [Ellen Rawson ] Re: Songs about the Wee Folk [Ellen Rawson ] ecto classical ["JoAnn Whetsell" ] Re: Neile's Late 1999 Music Report 3/5 [Yngve Hauge ] Re: ecto classical ["Jeffrey Hanson" ] Re: ecto classical [Joseph Zitt ] RE: Laura [Monroe/Fisher ] Re: ecto classical ["Mickey Ferguson" ] Ofra Haza (1957-2000) [Joseph Zitt ] Re: tara mclean [Bill Adler ] Re: Songs about the Wee Folk [Chris Morriss ] Re: ecto classical [Neile Graham ] Ben Lee [ToriCure@aol.com] NPR & Ken of the GLC [ken@3com-ne.com (Ken Descoteaux)] Over the Rhine In-stores [Michael Curry ] Re: ecto classical [Songbird22@aol.com] Re: Ofra Haza (1957-2000) [Jack Sutton ] Re: Ofra Haza (1957-2000) [FAMarcus@aol.com] Re: Songs about the Wee Folk [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: Ofra Haza 1957-2000 [Valerie Kraemer Richardson ] Ofra Haza [MockRafe@aol.com] Re: Ofra Haza [Joseph Zitt ] Re: ecto classical [Greg Dunn ] Re: Ofra Haza ["Scott S. Zimmerman" ] Re: Songs about the Wee Folk [josh burnett ] Re: Ofra Haza [J Wermont ] Squonk, was: Neile's Late 1999 Music Report 3/5 [Andrew Fries Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************* Teresa Ross (no Email address) ********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Teresa Ross Wed February 23 1977 pisces Michael Curry Fri February 24 1967 Pisces Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Peter Clark Thu March 04 1948 Pedestrian Tim Steele Fri March 08 1963 Pisces Matt Bittner Thu March 12 1964 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces Randall K. Smith Sat March 15 1969 Pisces Jessica Skolnik March 16 Pisces Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Richard Konrad Sat March 18 1944 Pisces Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Squiggol Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces John Stewart Sat March 21 1970 Aries Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:18:33 +1100 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Erin McKeown, Tara, Magnus, Buffy On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, neal wrote: >Is there a relationship between Not Drowning, Waving and someone else I >know (like My Friend the Chocolate Cake)? Just curious. There certainly is: Not Drowning, Waving was another project (in fact, often the main project) for David Bridie and Helen Mountford, two leading forces behind MFCC! Their presence is unmistakable in both bands, but NDW are more influenced by world music; for example, they often collaborate with the musicians from Papua New Guinea... but I must admit I'm far from being an expert on NDW - I've only had a couple of casual listens here and there over the years. - ------------------------------------------------------ "If we took a random sampling of observers of the same sunset, chances are a few would think the sun got larger, a few would insist it stayed the same size, and an appallingly large number would have been looking in the wrong direction." -- Dr. Science - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:14:55 +1100 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Neile's Late 1999 Music Report 3/5 On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Neile Graham wrote: >pondus, boy in the bubble ep > >Swedish indierock with a good vocalist. I find it hard to describe--kind of >PJ Harveyish but a slightly more mainstream pop sound. Shows a lot of >promise. (European release.) Pondus can also be obtained from mp3.com, and they should be! This admonition applies to me as well, because I'm still waiting to find a couple more items before placing an order. I'd describe Pondus as not just indierock, but indie-prog-rock... I find precious little mainstream pop in the songs I've got, at least. If anything their style reminds me of a very obscure but excellent band from Atlanta called Squonk Opera, who in turn somehow always made me think of Peter Gabriel's Genesis for some strange, convoluted reason. I couldn't really explain why - their singer certainly didn't sound like Peter Gabriel, and neither does the singer of Pondus! Yet her voice does remind me of someone, possibly the Changelings... some of the time, anyway. I might also throw in Shellyz Raven as another reference(*). Well, it's all very vague and slippery. But maybe that means the music is good? * By now you've all visited Shellyz Raven's site (www.shellyzraven.com) and downloaded their songs, right? RIGHT? :) - ------------------------------------------------------ "If we took a random sampling of observers of the same sunset, chances are a few would think the sun got larger, a few would insist it stayed the same size, and an appallingly large number would have been looking in the wrong direction." -- Dr. Science - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:24:35 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Neile's Late 1999 Music Report 3/5 Andrew Fries wrote: > If anything their style reminds me of a very obscure but excellent > band from Atlanta called Squonk Opera, who in turn somehow always > made me think of Peter Gabriel's Genesis for some strange, convoluted > reason. a) very obscure anywhere but on ecto (and maybe r.m.g). b) pittsburgh, not atlanta c) close, but not quite -- it should make you think of the two-album era between LLDoB and _...and then there were three_, when Hackett was still on guitar, and they released an album (_Trick of the Tail_) featuring a song called..."Squonk"! I didn't realize they were still around, but there's a lot of stuff at squonkopera.com jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:03:07 +0200 From: Juha Sorva Subject: Songs about the Wee Folk Hello, Ecto, I'm helping a friend to organize a party with a fairy theme. Fairy, as in elves, pixies, leprechauns, fantasy feasts in forests, dragons flying like sparrows through the air, that sort of thing. So, it occurred to me to ask you people for recommendations on suitable theme music to play at the event. It could be something explicitly fairy-taleish, or it could be just something that matches the general atmosphere (I'm thinking of several of Happy's songs here, for example). Could be Ecto-ish, could be something else (hey, even Black Sabbath have a cool fairy song). Of course it would be nice if it's something that's possible to locate within a couple of weeks. So, if you have any ideas, I'd be happy to hear them. Thanks! Juha (who's back at following Ecto more regularly now after taking a lengthy millennium vacation in Rio, Brazil, and finishing the insane workload that was waiting for him upon return) n.p. Manic Street Preachers: _The Holy Bible_ n.r. C.S. Lewis: The Narnia Chronicles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:14:37 +0000 From: Terra Incognita Subject: Who wants these CDs? Clearing out stuff. I have Rose Chronicles' "Happily Ever After," Pal Shazar's "Safe," and Jane Siberry's "Maria" on the block. Say, five bucks each? Just email me. 26 days until spring... Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:21:19 -0500 From: Bill Adler Subject: Re: Songs about the Wee Folk You might want to check out Heather Alexander (http://www.teleport.com/~seafire/), a Celtic musician originally from San Francisco. She sings about fantasy, wandering minstrels, changlings, and stuff like that. My kids like her a lot. While her songs have a traditional feel, there's a clever edgyness about them, too. Not all of Heather Alexander's songs are perfect for kids, but there's enough on her CD, "Midsummer" to make it worthwhile. (One of the songs on "Midsummer" is about the "wee folk.") - --Bill n.p. Cowboy Junkies "Lay It Down" At 03:03 PM 2/23/00 +0200, you wrote: >Hello, Ecto, > >I'm helping a friend to organize a party with a fairy theme. >Fairy, as in elves, pixies, leprechauns, fantasy feasts in forests, >dragons flying like sparrows through the air, that sort of thing. > >So, it occurred to me to ask you people for recommendations on suitable >theme music to play at the event. It could be something explicitly >fairy-taleish, or it could be just something that matches the general >atmosphere (I'm thinking of several of Happy's songs here, for example). >Could be Ecto-ish, could be something else (hey, even Black Sabbath have >a cool fairy song). Of course it would be nice if it's something that's >possible to locate within a couple of weeks. > >So, if you have any ideas, I'd be happy to hear them. >Thanks! > > > Juha > >(who's back at following Ecto more regularly now after taking a >lengthy millennium vacation in Rio, Brazil, and finishing the >insane workload that was waiting for him upon return) > >n.p. Manic Street Preachers: _The Holy Bible_ >n.r. C.S. Lewis: The Narnia Chronicles Bill Adler www.adlerbooks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:49:38 +0200 From: Juha Sorva Subject: Re: Songs about the Wee Folk Hi, On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Bill Adler wrote: > Not all of Heather Alexander's songs are perfect for kids, but there's > enough on her CD, "Midsummer" to make it worthwhile. (One of the songs on > "Midsummer" is about the "wee folk.") Oh, it doesn't have to be "for kids". Despite possible impressions, this event that I was planning is for (sort of? :)) grown-ups (members of a role-playing club at an university). Thanks for the recommendation, Bill. Juha n.p. Susan Court: _High Relief_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:59:50 -0700 From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: Songs about the Wee Folk Juha Sorva wrote: > So, it occurred to me to ask you people for recommendations on suitable > theme music to play at the event. It could be something explicitly > fairy-taleish, or it could be just something that matches the general > atmosphere Lots by Steeleye Span: "Elf Call," "Thomas the Rhymer," "Seven Hundred Elves," "King Henry," "Alison Gross," etc. "Tam Lin" must be included (I think :), whether it's a version by Fairport Convention, Mike Waterson, Frankie Armstrong, Martin Carthy, Steeleye Span, etc. Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:02:27 -0700 From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: Songs about the Wee Folk Oh, another I just recalled: "Fairies Living at the Bottom of the Garden" by Renaissance. Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:01:35 EST From: "JoAnn Whetsell" Subject: ecto classical well, classical really, not necessarily ecto. but i'm right now really interested in building up my classical music collection, and was wondering who people thought were good soloists, particularly on violin, cello, and piano. Thanks in advance. JoAnn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:18:32 +0100 (CET) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Neile's Late 1999 Music Report 3/5 On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Neile Graham wrote: > pondus, boy in the bubble ep > > Swedish indierock with a good vocalist. I find it hard to > describe--kind of PJ Harveyish but a slightly more mainstream pop sound. > Shows a lot of >promise. (European release.) For the information Pondus is a norwegian band, and the guitar player is a friend of mine and also on the Velvet Station mailinglist (the Velvet Belly list if you wonder) living in Lillestroem outside Oslo. I have to second that they are very promising, but still trying out several styles and they are not sure if they are gonna continue doing that or choose one - I hope they settle for the first option :) *hugs* - -- Yngve n.p. Velvet Belly - Colours ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:20:44 +0100 (CET) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Neile's Late 1999 Music Report 3/5 On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Andrew Fries wrote: > * By now you've all visited Shellyz Raven's site (www.shellyzraven.com) > and downloaded their songs, right? RIGHT? :) Another great norwegian band without recording contract. They actually say on their webpage that they can't afford to distribute their music so you can download coverart and music from there with the band's blessings. - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:27:08 +0100 (CET) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: ecto classical On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > well, classical really, not necessarily ecto. but i'm right now really > interested in building up my classical music collection, and was > wondering who people thought were good soloists, particularly on > violin, cello, and piano. Violin - whatever you can get hold on by Ginette Neveu ... her recordings are from before 1950, but they are absolutely the best you can get. Sadly enough she died in a plane crash end of the 40s. Last year a new recording of Vivaldi's Four Seasons was released on Deutsche Gramophone with Anne Sofie Mutter - it is brilliant! Mullova is another violinist you should get something with - especially the Shostakovitch concertos. Cello - Jaquiline Dupre of course Piano - a norwegian maybe - Ansnes ... He got some brilliant recordings. *hugs* - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:46:57 -0700 From: "Jeffrey Hanson" Subject: Re: ecto classical Joann, Here a few classical pieces I like. For violin, I really like Anne Sophie Mutter--she's pretty amazing-- has a wonderful version of Vivaldi's Four Seasons out last year in great packaging. Very lively. She's done a lot of modern music as well as some of the traditional pieces. I tend to like pretty much everything I have by her. I love piano and cello but haven't found any particular soloists that I can consistently depend on as being great. Though the Labeque sisters are both quite good--their albums tend to be hit or miss. While not soloists, my favorite composers--who seem to capture ecto-ish emotions well are Stravinsky and Vaughn Williams. For Stravinsky, I'd start with Rites of Spring or Firebird Suite, for Vaughn Williams I'd start with Variations on Themes by Thomas Tallis or Lark Ascending. I'd also recommend Richard Einhorn's Voices of Light. It was written to accompany the old movie about Joan of Arc (who's name and director I'm forgetting), and features some great cello and Anonymous 4. Really beautiful piece--very ectoish. Hope this helps. Jeff Hanson n.p. Lisa Ekdahl - Back to Earth n.r. Salvation and Other Disasters - Josip Novakovich ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:29:39 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: ecto classical On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 08:46:57AM -0700, Jeffrey Hanson wrote: > I'd also recommend Richard Einhorn's Voices of Light. It was > written to accompany the old movie about Joan of Arc (who's > name and director I'm forgetting), and features some great cello > and Anonymous 4. Really beautiful piece--very ectoish. That's Dreyer's "The Passion of Joan of Arc", I believe. The DVD of the movie includes Einhorn's music. - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:22:59 -0800 From: Monroe/Fisher Subject: RE: Laura I didn't know that Season of Light was a double. I have the original single LP which contains 10 songs. Was it expanded for CD release? BTW, without a doubt my favorite Laura Nyro album is "Christmas and the Beads of Sweat" mostly because "Upstairs by a Chinese Lamp" is on it - one of my all-time favorite songs. Wayne np - The La's nr - Ladders to Fire - Anais Nin Mitchell A. Pravatiner wrote: >The best of Laura Nyro's albums, especially for those on the learning >curve, are her first four: _Eli and the Thirteenth Confession_, _New York >Tendaberry_, _Christmas and the Beads of Sweat_ and _The First Songs_. >Her double concert album, _Season of Lights_, is also well worth a listen >if you can find it. It is out of print in the US but I hear it's now >available as an import CD. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:36:42 -0600 From: "Mickey Ferguson" Subject: Re: ecto classical JoAnn wrote: > well, classical really, not necessarily ecto. but i'm right now really > interested in building up my classical music collection, and was wondering > who people thought were good soloists, particularly on violin, cello, and > piano. Thank you for getting me thinking about my classical selection. Sometimes it becomes neglected. :) One CD that I've been meaning to mention to the group is Sainte Colombe's "Retrouve & Change" (sorry I can't do accents where they belong) played by a German soloist, Hille Perl. On this release, she plays Viola da Gamba. This is baroque music, written in the 2nd half of the 17th century, so possibly not for everyone. I find the sound is rather modern: the souls of the performers shine through brilliantly, and the music becomes a sort of tone poem, instrumented with viols, lutes and harp. Hille Perl is very technically proficient while still communicating her love for the soul of her instrument. I love this CD. It relaxes me, makes me smile (track 7:"La Raporte") and dream of the spiritual. Actually, when I think on the CD's that I own, I find that I must enjoy orchestral and symphonic music more than concertos and soloists, because that's what I remember most of all of them. Another that I play repeatedly is of Paganini's Violin Concerto No. 1, played by Viktoria Mullova w/the Academy of St. Martin in the Fields. I believe it has a Vieuxtemps concerto on there, as well. This is a wonderful, clear, digital recording. I recommend it, too. Have fun listening! - ---Mickey Austin TX USA n.p. Magdalen Hsu-Li, "Evolution" the following quote was copied from the liner notes of the Hille Perl :) ************************************************************************ "We need magic and bliss and power, myth and celebration and religion in our lives, and music is a good way to encapsulate a lot of it." ---Jerry Garcia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:04:09 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Ofra Haza (1957-2000) From http://www.ofrahaza.com/ "Ofra Haza Nov. 19, 1957 - Feb. 23, 2000 - --------------------- We regret to announce that this evening at 7:40 PM (Israel time) Ofra Haza passed away. There are no words to describe the sorrow and grief we are experiencing at this moment. We love you Ofra and we will miss you..." - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:08:49 -0500 From: Bill Adler Subject: Re: tara mclean Nick, I first heard Tara MacLean on an eclectic complication CD, "Over Canada." That's also the same CD that introduced me to the Cowboy Junkies. The song of hers that's on the Over Canada CD is "If You Could." Does she have an amazing voice! I've just ordered Tara MacLean's two CDs from her web site. - --Bill n.p. Still, Cowboy Junkies, "Lay it Down" At 03:39 PM 2/22/00 -0800, you wrote: >Didn't Tara's new album Passenger come out today? Did anyone get it, I >havent gone yet. She's touring with Dido?!! Oh man, that I will go to. Any >dates up yet? >-nick > >n.p. Cure-Bloodflowers, great up there with "Disintegration" Bill Adler Adler & Robin Books www.adlerbooks.com/celticmusic.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:04:34 +0000 From: Chris Morriss Subject: Re: Songs about the Wee Folk In message <38B3E7D3.74C4@ix.netcom.com>, Ellen Rawson writes >Juha Sorva wrote: > >> So, it occurred to me to ask you people for recommendations on suitable >> theme music to play at the event. It could be something explicitly >> fairy-taleish, or it could be just something that matches the general >> atmosphere > >Lots by Steeleye Span: "Elf Call," "Thomas the Rhymer," "Seven Hundred >Elves," "King Henry," "Alison Gross," etc. > >"Tam Lin" must be included (I think :), whether it's a version by >Fairport Convention, Mike Waterson, Frankie Armstrong, Martin Carthy, >Steeleye Span, etc. > >Ellen A very interesting version of 'Tam Lin' is by the now defunct English band 'Pyewackett'. Very different from the well-known Fairport version, but well worth having a listen to. - -- Chris Morriss ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:23:06 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: ecto classical At 9:01 AM -0500 2/23/00, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: >well, classical really, not necessarily ecto. but i'm right now really >interested in building up my classical music collection, and was wondering >who people thought were good soloists, particularly on violin, cello, and >piano. For piano I really like Glenn Gould and Barry Douglas. Artur Rubenstein for Chopin. Aldo Ciccolioni for Eric Satie. I don't have a very extensive classical collection, though, and much of it is Early Music, which I have a weakness for since so much of it overlaps with Celtic and folk and the vocals are usually magnificent (Anonymous 4, Emma Kirkby, The Folger Consort, Ensemble Alcatraz, Fretwork...) - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:03:59 EST From: ToriCure@aol.com Subject: Ben Lee Hi everyone, This is probably my second post since I first joined the kick ass crew known as Ecto a few months back. I just wanted to take the opportunity to mention how much I like Ben Lee's third album "Breathing Tornados." It's a lot different from what I've heard off of his first and second albums, which have a very lo-fi indie guitar sound which I still dig very much. I was first introduced to his music by the song "Away with the Pixies" which is a duet he did with Liz Phair. I also found out that his first album (which he released at the age of 16!), was a response to Liz's awesome debut album "Exile In Guyville." Also, for those of you who have not heard any music from Liz Phair, I highly recommend that album for starters. But also I recommend that you check out clips off of Ben's third album. It was produced by ex- Psychedelic Furs producer Ed Buller, and his work on the record is extremely clear on the second track which sounds like a complete emulation of the classic Furs sound. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:27:07 -0500 (EST) From: ken@3com-ne.com (Ken Descoteaux) Subject: NPR & Ken of the GLC This morning, as I was driving in to work, I was listening to NPR. They had a very interesting story about Ken Livingston running for office in London this year. Perhaps it's a sign that I should listen to more KaTe..... http://www.gate.net/~heisjohn/kate/kenl.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:26:26 -0500 From: Michael Curry Subject: Over the Rhine In-stores >Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:40:32 -0500 (EST) >From: OTRhine@aol.com >Subject: In-stores > >***On the Web*** >Read an interview on Over The Rhine courtesy of Eric Steiner. Look >for a review on the Seattle shows soon! >www.cosmik.com > > >***In-Stores*** > >This is your chance to mingle with the band, get that t-shirt >signed and see Over The Rhine live for FREE! > >JUST ADDED >Friday, February 25 2:00pm >Borders >1170 Northway Mall, >Pittsburgh, PA 15237 >412-635-7662 > >Sunday, February 27 9:00 pm >Koffee? >104 Audobon St >New Haven CT > >Wednesday, March 1 6:00pm >Virgin Megastore >Union Square >52 East 14th Street >New York, NY >212-598-4666 > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:49:42 EST From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Re: ecto classical I would recommend Gorecki, Satie, the soundtrack to the movie "The Piano", the soundtrack from the movie "Immortal Beloved" (a nice sampling of some of Beethoven's greatest works), Glenn Gould, and Chopin. Jessica np: Magnolia soundtrack www.aquezada.com/jess ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:16:14 -0800 From: Jack Sutton Subject: Re: Ofra Haza (1957-2000) I'm greatly shocked and deeply saddened by this news. The world has lost a wonderful talent. Jack Sutton Harmony Ridge Music At 04:04 PM 2/23/00 -0500, you wrote: > >From http://www.ofrahaza.com/ > >"Ofra Haza >Nov. 19, 1957 - Feb. 23, 2000 >--------------------- >We regret to announce that this evening at 7:40 PM (Israel time) >Ofra Haza passed away. > >There are no words to describe the sorrow and grief we are >experiencing at this moment. > >We love you Ofra and we will miss you..." > > >-- >|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| >| jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | >| Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | >| Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:38:02 EST From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: Ofra Haza (1957-2000) In a message dated 2/23/00 8:31:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, jsutton@hrmusic.com writes: << m greatly shocked and deeply saddened by this news. The world has lost a wonderful talent. >> for those of us who do not know who ofra is (or maybe just me)............................ possibly a brief bio??? anyone??? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:25:36 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Songs about the Wee Folk Juha Sorva wrote: > > Hello, Ecto, > > I'm helping a friend to organize a party with a fairy theme. > Fairy, as in elves, pixies, leprechauns, fantasy feasts in forests, > dragons flying like sparrows through the air, that sort of thing. Er...How about: The rather obvious one here: Happy Rhodes: "Would That I Could" from Ecto This song's verses are taken straight out of Billy S's "A Midsummer Night's Dream" -- II.1, lines 2-17. Not only is it about a bunch of fairies, it's actually sung by one. Happy inserted the chorus and gave us that incredible melody. Jethro Tull: "Jack in the Green" / _Songs from the Wood_ Bel Canto: Unicorn, Spiderdust, die geschichte einer mutter / _Shimmering Warm and Bright_ Alan Stivell: O'Neil's March/The King of the Fairies / _Again_ (okay, it's instrumental, but with that title...and besides, you should all own this disc 'cause it has a song featuring vox by KaTe!) Shouldn't there be something by the Pogues, or the Chieftains or... jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:43:30 -0500 From: Valerie Kraemer Richardson Subject: Re: Ofra Haza 1957-2000 I was so sad to hear about Ofra Haza's death. Here is the AP obituary. - --Valerie ____________________________________________________ JERUSALEM (AP) -- Ofra Haza, who melded ancient Yemenite Jewish devotional poetry with 1980s techno music to become Israel's first international pop music success, died Wednesday. She was 41. Haza, who was admitted to Tel Hashomer hospital in Tel Aviv 13 days ago, died of massive organ failure,Dr. Zeev Rortenstein said. He refused to say why she was hospitalized or what led to the organ failure, saying that was her wish. Haza, the youngest of nine siblings in a Yemenite Jewish family who lived in the Hatikvah slum of Tel Aviv, was discovered at age 12 by a talent scout. She attributed her full-throated voice to singing at home with her mother. By the time she was 19, she was a bubble gum pop success. ``She was Israel's first female pop idol,'' said Benny Dudkevitch, Israel radio's pop music editor. Her signature song was the defiant 1979 hit, ``The Tart's Song,'' a celebration of being everything -- funny,flirtatious, consumerist -- a young woman of the time was not supposed to be, with the chorus declaring, ``I wanna shout out loud, `I'm a tart!''' Later in her career, Haza was among the artists who distanced themselves from efforts to consolidate an ``Israeli'' sound and delved into their parents' ethnic roots. ``Yemenite Songs,'' released in 1985 with a photo of her in full Yemenite wedding gear on the cover, was an nstant Israeli hit. Its signature track, ``Im Ninalu,'' (``If the Gates of Heaven were Locked'') expanded a devotional poem by 17th century rabbi Shalom Shabazi into a modern love song. The melody was pure Persian Gulf, a climactic assemblage of rising quarter tones; the beat was pure 1980s drum machine. But it was not until 1988, when American rap artists Eric B. and Rakim sampled ``Im Ninalu'' on their dance hit ``Paid in Full,'' that Haza became an international phenomenon. A savvy self-promoter, she rereleased ``Im Ninalu''worldwide with English lyrics. It was an outstanding success. The rerelease of ``Yemenite Songs,'' and her nextalbum, ``Shaday,'' brought her worldwide attention -- suddenly Ofra Haza was the byword for world music. Reviewers would describe other ethnic music phenomenons as ``the Bulgarian Ofra Haza'' or ``the Indian Ofra Haza.'' ``For audiences in Europe and the Far East, this was something completely new,'' Dudkevitch said. ``In Germany alone, it was selling 15,000 copies a day.'' Haza's insistence on privacy only stoked the Israeli public's interest in her life. She made headlines in 1987 when she survived a small airplane crash. She kept her marriage two years ago to businessman Doron Ashkenazi out of the public eye. After a flush of attention that lasted into the early 1990s, her fame receded, although she continued to make high-profile appearances. She performed in Oslo when Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, Foreign Minister Shimon Peres and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1994, and she sang the role of Moses' mother in the 1998 film ``The Prince of Egypt.'' In Haza's last days, fans gathered at the hospital, anxious for word of her recovery. After her death was announced, Israeli radio stations switched to retrospectives of her music. Prime Minister Ehud Barak said she represented the Israeli success story. ``Ofra emerged from the Hatikvah slums to reach the peak of Israeli culture,'' he said. ``She has left a mark on us all.'' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:40:14 EST From: MockRafe@aol.com Subject: Ofra Haza After I heard that she was sampled on some techno band's album (I think it was MARRS), I started to look for her recordings, only to realize, "Hey! I've heard of her before", but I wasn't sure from where. I think the song that struck me as familiar was "Iym Ninalu" (or maybe it was just deja vu). I think I eventually purchased three of her albums, but I haven't played them in a while. Maybe I should reacquaint myself. Mark Susskind ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:16:49 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Ofra Haza On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 10:40:14PM -0500, MockRafe@aol.com wrote: > After I heard that she was sampled on some techno band's album (I think it > was MARRS), I started to look for her recordings, only to realize, "Hey! I've > heard of her before", but I wasn't sure from where. I think the song that > struck me as familiar was "Iym Ninalu" (or maybe it was just deja vu). I > think I eventually purchased three of her albums, but I haven't played them > in a while. Maybe I should reacquaint myself. Yup. Im Nin'alu was well known from M.A.R.R.S.'s "Pump Up the Volume", though I beleive she was first sampled by ColdCut for their remix of Eric B. and Rakim's "Paid in Full". Opinions differ as to her best albums, but i think all agree that "Yemenite Songs" is indispensable. I like "Desert Wind" a lot, though some prefer "Kirya". I don't care for her live album, but others might. - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:00:22 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: ecto classical >While not soloists, my favorite composers--who seem to capture >ecto-ish emotions well are Stravinsky and Vaughn Williams. >For Stravinsky, I'd start with Rites of Spring or Firebird Suite, >for Vaughn Williams I'd start with Variations on Themes by Thomas >Tallis or Lark Ascending. I think that's (Ralph) Vaughan Williams. :-) I really, really love his "Sinfonia Antartica". The EMI London Philharmonic recording with Haitink conducting is superb. It's very bleak and depressing (well, it's based on Scott's Antarctic expedition...), but it has excellent atmosphere... the chorale and wind machine at the end are downright spooky. I'm also a big fan of Rachmaninoff; the "Symphonic Dances", his last work before his death, are extremely dynamic and moody, with beautiful, lyrical string arrangements. Great music to listen to in Spring, along with Stravinsky. If you can find the Analogue Productions transfer of the old Vox recording (ask for APCD 006), it's worth your speakers' lives. :-) Donald Johanos conducting the Dallas Symphony. n.p.: Symphonic Dances. :-) - -- | Greg Dunn | I'll never live the life that | | gregdunn@indy.net | wakes me in the night... | | The Sultan of Slack(tm) | | | http://www.indy.net/~gregdunn/ | Fiona Apple | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:30:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Scott S. Zimmerman" Subject: Re: Ofra Haza > Opinions differ as to her best albums, but i think all agree that > "Yemenite Songs" is indispensable. Definitely. Yemenite Songs aka The Fifty Gates Of Wisdom is absolutely fabulous, and is by far my favorite of the 4 albums I've heard. It is completely captivating and i've found myself listening to it for hours upon hours many times..... essential listening. sadly, Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:59:53 -0500 (EST) From: josh burnett Subject: Re: Songs about the Wee Folk On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Juha Sorva wrote: > So, it occurred to me to ask you people for recommendations on suitable > theme music to play at the event. It could be something explicitly > fairy-taleish, or it could be just something that matches the general > atmosphere (I'm thinking of several of Happy's songs here, for example). "Stonehenge" by Spinal Tap....'nuff said. ;-) "I don't think that the problem was that the band was off..I think that the problem was that we had a Stonhenge monument which was in danger of being crushed by a dwarf!" (or something like that ;)) jcb. Josh Burnett * www.sirius.com/~jcb9 * IM: joshjackal * ICQ: 23051834 "A career? I've thought about this quite a bit, sir, and I would have to say, considering what's waiting out there for me, I don't want to sell anything, buy anything or process anything as a career. I dont want to sell anything bought or processed or buy anything sold or processed or repair anything sold, bought or processed as a career. I dont want to do that." -- Say Anything ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:06:40 -0800 (PST) From: J Wermont Subject: Re: Ofra Haza I first heard music by Ofra Haza years ago on the radio, and was entranced by it. So I went to a music store and bought a tape. Since I didn't know the name of the particular song(s) I'd heard on the radio, I just selected one at random. I was so disappointed - it sounded like any other American dance pop music, with just a slight amount of Middle Eastern influence. Evidently I'd made the wrong choice. I really love Middle Eastern music, and I've always wondered if some of her other albums are a lot better than the one I happened to choose. There's no way I could ever remember what the original song was that had gotten me so interested in the first place, but I do remember that it sounded a lot more authentic and beautiful than what I had on tape. Are her albums uneven like that? Some more commercial, others more connected to her roots? Maybe I got one of the bubble-gum albums (as mentioned in the AP article). Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:37:01 +1100 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Squonk, was: Neile's Late 1999 Music Report 3/5 On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Jeffrey Burka wrote: >Andrew Fries wrote: > >> If anything their style reminds me of a very obscure but excellent >> band from Atlanta called Squonk Opera, who in turn somehow always >> made me think of Peter Gabriel's Genesis for some strange, convoluted >> reason. > >a) very obscure anywhere but on ecto (and maybe r.m.g). naturally :) Yet even here, I don't think there was much mention of them in the last year or so ... when I posted I wasn't even sure if they were still around and actually I'm still not sure because I just tried to visit their site and "squonkopera.com" I ended up with seemed to be about some performance indeed, but not about the band I knew! >b) pittsburgh, not atlanta Oops! Are they close, at least? :) >c) close, but not quite -- it should make you think of the two-album >era between LLDoB and _...and then there were three_, when Hackett was >still on guitar, and they released an album (_Trick of the Tail_) >featuring a song called..."Squonk"! There is that, but the reason they remind me of early Genesis goes deeper, to the way they often construct their songs out of those distinct mini-movements rather than verse-chorus-verse... Something about the way they just seem to be in the world of their own... and the fact that in the pictures I've seen of them they wore masks and costumes not unlike those on the cover of "Genesis Live". Yes, that's it, I think. Mind you, it's probably close to 10 years since I've listened to any Genesis at all! - ------------------------------------------------------ "If we took a random sampling of observers of the same sunset, chances are a few would think the sun got larger, a few would insist it stayed the same size, and an appallingly large number would have been looking in the wrong direction." -- Dr. Science - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #53 *************************