From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #333 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, October 4 1999 Volume 05 : Number 333 Today's Subjects: ----------------- fiona and more [NNadelS@aol.com] Cocteau Twins [Tim Cook ] Beth Hart - LA Song [Mike Connell ] Re: something sweet [RWPandPJP@aol.com] CD Storage [Tim Cook ] Big Polygram victims [rich.rapp@effem.com] Happy live at the Wire [Patrick Moseley ] RE: Beth Hart - LA Song [Amy Lotsberg ] Re: something sweet ["cjmacs" ] Re: Kieslowski & Preisner [Laura Clifford ] Re: Happy live at the Wire && breaking news [ken@3com-ne.com] Re: Happy live at the Wire && breaking news [Patrick Moseley ] New Artist? [Amy Lotsberg ] Judith Edelman (was Re: New Artist?) [Ofer Inbar ] Re: Uhh, perhaps it's not my place to say this, but... [Damniel@aol.com] Re: Happy live at the Wire && breaking news [kitty kat ] Re: too much to give a proper name. long. possibly boring. [Zoetrope ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 02:32:46 EDT From: NNadelS@aol.com Subject: fiona and more just saw the debut of the new fiona apple video on 120 minutes. the song was interesting, alot of tempo changes ala tori. paul thomas anderson (boogie nights and former fiona b-friend) directed the clip. they also played a neat video for beth orton's central reservation (remix). bearsville is also important cause that's where natalie merchant records-thus katell recorded there through her. - -nick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:44:07 +0100 From: Tim Cook Subject: Cocteau Twins >JoAnn Whetsell said: > >I saw on Rykodisc's page today that Cocteau Twins: BBC Sessions is going to >be released on Oct. 12 this year. I picked it up here in the UK last week. Its a double CD for little more than the price of a regular CD which makes it almost good value over here!! tim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 06:29:08 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Beth Hart - LA Song ::::::::::: delurking :::::::::: Man, did I ever fall in love with a song over the weekend. Had never heard it before, it was the 3rd song on Open House Party on Saturday night. It's "LA Song" by Beth Hart. Just wondering if any of you know much about her. (I bet Paul Kim does :-) I tried http://www.bethhart.com just to see if there was a site and lo & behold it was there.....you can hear the full song and/or view the video by going to the discography link. (the Real Audio of it sounds MUCH better than the Real Video). I listened to a couple of the other songs......the others sound too produced for my tastes, but I'll likely pick up the CD this week anyway. (it's her second CD) If you want to catch her singing this song for certain, she's on Letterman on October 6th. I can't imagine her singing anything else, as this IS her latest release. I have an odd story to go with this Letterman gig......On Thursday or Friday I saw an ad in the USA Today mentioning Beth Hart being on Letterman on October 6th, and I figured I'd have to catch it, simply because I had never heard of her before, and figured it might be worth watching. The ad did not mention any songs by title. So, at a few minutes after 7pm on Saturday, for the hell of it I turned on Open House Party....I wasn't listening to a word of the host and any callers banter, when this song came on (it was LA Song)....I loved it.....I absolutely loved it....not knowing who it was, I honestly thought to myself that "it might be this Beth Hart gal"......he never mentioned the artists name after the song....at midnight they always repeat Open House Party here, so I tuned in and needless to say I was somewhat shocked to hear it WAS Beth Hart.......talk about a lucky guess..... Anyway, I think you folks should check her out.....at least LA Song anyway. Mike :-) np - been rotating through my OLD vinyl (Mike's on a nostalgia kick) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 06:33:02 EDT From: RWPandPJP@aol.com Subject: Re: something sweet In a message dated 10/3/99 3:39:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, trow@slip.net writes: > There's the first Jellyfish album, > BELLYBUTTON; plus various Jellyfish offshoots such as the Grays (whose > lone album, RO SHAM BO, is now out of print but worth seeking out), Jason > Falkner (two fantastic solo albums), and Imperial Teen. Imperial *Drag*, actually...a really fun, campy album. From Roger Manning there are also two Moog Cookbook albums, which include '70s-style synthesized versions of big rock hits like "Cat Scratch Fever." Great for laughs, especially on long driving trips! In addition to the two legendary Jellyfish albums, not too tough to find is a live EP that includes a cover of McCartney's "Jet" and "Let 'Em In" and Badfinger's "No Matter What." Another amazing Jelly song is "Ignorance Is Bliss" off the Super Mario Bros. movie soundtrack. Someone, namely Andy Sturmer, missed his calling (hardly) and should be doing children's music. Unfortunately, he's been all too silent publicly since Jellyfish's breakup. A good source for info on all the Jellyfish offshoots (there are many more) is the Jelly-L mailing list FAQ. Unfortunately, I don't have an address for this but it can probably be obtained via a web search. Have fun discovering. :) Pamela ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:35:18 +0100 From: Tim Cook Subject: CD Storage I know this came up on ecto a while back... I'm thinking of storing my CDs some other way that takes up less space. At the moment they're in their jewel cases stored in cheap plastic CD storage units. I was thinking of ditching the jewel cases and storing them in sleeves to save space/weight. I know Case Logic sell individual sleeves but they're quite expensive (especially here in the UK) and you can only buy them in small packets. Does anyone in the UK know where I could get hold of something similar where I can buy in bulk and perhaps save a few pennies. I'm also looking for suitable storage boxes that would accommodate the sleeves (something along the lines of a plastic shoebox would be ideal). When I was in the US I used the binders that store 4 CDs to a page but they are a bit of a pain when you add new CDs and they work out a bit too expensive as well. Some have fixed pages which makes adding new CDs in alphabetic order a real pain. Any suggestions (expecially from UK ectophiles for places in the EU or UK) or for companies in the US that ship internationally would be great. Thanks in advance. Tim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:15:47 -0400 From: rich.rapp@effem.com Subject: Big Polygram victims Previously said..... >New Cowboy Junkies B-side collection is coming! They are on an independent >label now and have their own website. They got dropped in that big Polygram >record merger that Aimee Mann got dropped in too. Count Grey Eye Glances as a victim also....... Rich R. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:38:23 -0500 From: Patrick Moseley Subject: Happy live at the Wire Hello all... Just wanted to let you all know that I'm still on a Happy-high from her performance at the Wire in PA Saturday night. It was the first time I'd seen Happy perform live, and wow, was I ever impressed. Indulge me for a moment as I rehash the finer details... I'm not sure exactly how to classify the Wire... it's not exactly a club, it's definitely not a bar... It appeared to me to be comprised of two storefronts in the downtown area of New Cumberland. One side (where the audience was allowed to walk in from the street) had a snack bar and drinks, as well as a table of CDs and (in Happy's own words) "the coveted Many Worlds mousepads." The other side was a big room filled with chairs (and a few tables, a couple of couches) that could probably seat about 100 people, and a tiny corner area where the stage was. Although the stage area might appear cramped to some, I think it added to the intimacy of the performance, as did the warm lighting against the brick walls behind the stage. Having never been to the area before, my friend and I gave ourselves ample time in case we got lost; we did get turned around at one point, but still got to New Cumberland about 20 minutes before the doors were scheduled to open. The owner told us the soundcheck hadn't even started, so it'd be closer to the 8 o'clock performance time before we'd be allowed to sit. We killed a little time walking around town, but soon we wandered back because I was hoping to evesdrop a bit on the soundcheck. As we walked back down the street toward the Wire, I was totally surprised to walk right up to Happy herself. She was out on the sidewalk with a videocamera, shooting the front of the building. She turned the camera on us as we walked by, and we exchanged quick hellos and such, but my friend and I kept walking; for some reason I've always felt like fans shouldn't attempt to take up a musician's personal time before a performance. We found a bakery down the street and ate until closer to the performance time; we were allowed to find our seats about a quater to 8. Like I said before, The Wire is intimate. Only the bassist and drummer were on a slightly elevated floor; Bon and Happy were on the same level as the audience. I think the people in the front row could've put their feet up on Happy's Korg if they'd wanted to. The band came on a little bit after 8 o'clock; Happy came in carrying the video camera again, shooting the audience. She said she hoped she wouldn't have to get us all to sign a release afterwards. I'd heard Happy had a very dry and quick wit, but I wasn't expecting to be laughing and smiling so much during her show. I think she spoke at least a little between each song, which only added to the intimacy of the entire performance. She introduced her first song ("Proof") as "Ode to Encephalitis." "Ra is a Busy God" was then introduced as "Ode to Encephalitis, Part Two," and she said she was afraid to go back to NY because of the mosquitoes. And she told us to put on our dancing shoes just before playing "Winter." I don't think her setlist was much different from recent past shows, but here it is (not necessarily in order) anyway: Proof Ra is a Busy God Look for the Child Save Our Souls Ashes to Ashes Winter MWABT All Things Just Like Tivoli 100 Years Roy Tragic Serenading Genius (encore) Obviously the show centered largely on MWABT songs, but I really found Happy's choices of earlier songs interesting; to me, songs like "All Things" and "Tivoli" aren't necessarily the most obvious choices to be the single performances from WARPAINT and COLOSSUS, but that's all right. "All Things," which has always been sort of a "passive" favorite of mine, was especially invigorated by the live performance. I would've loved to hear "Down Down" live, though. One of the most amazing aspects of the show for me -- the newbie of Happy's live performances -- was just watching her sing. She so effortlessly moves from her low to high range and back again, all without a trace of strain. Just hearing that pure range of sound coming out of one person was unreal. This is a voice that needs to be heard -- and appreciated -- by the masses. I left the Wire quite the happy Happy fan, complete with the coveted MWABT mousepad and an autographed CD. *Sigh* And, in case anyone's curious, Happy mentioned during the show that her entire discography will shortly be as widely available as MWABT. She also said after the show that her new album is still in the ideas/songwriting phase, so I'm wondering if the January release date purported here earlier was a bit too hopeful. (?) Patrick P.S. - Anyone tape the show Saturday? :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:22:07 -0500 From: Amy Lotsberg Subject: RE: Beth Hart - LA Song Mike wrote: > ::::::::::: delurking :::::::::: Myself delurking... > Man, did I ever fall in love with a song over the weekend. > Had never heard > it before, it was the 3rd song on Open House Party on Saturday night. > > It's "LA Song" by Beth Hart. Well, I am speaking up because I actually DO know something about her. Not much...just that I too fell in love with "LA Song" but for me it started a couple of weeks ago. I heard the song on the radio at work and within moments had placed an order for her CD "Screamin for my Supper" at Amazon.com. I received it soon after (have I mentioned how much I love Amazon?). This is a good CD! She is very rockin', bluesy, smokey (I don't know if she really does smoke but her voice sounds like she smokes about 5 packs of Camel unfiltereds a day). Sometimes she reminds me of Melissa Etheridge, sometimes Janis Joplin. If you like your female musicians to rock your socks, she is good for that!! LA Story though, is not indicative of the entire CD, IMHO. I think it is much more melodic than the others. More Pop-y. But I truly do like the whole album. (CD, sorry, I am old, I actually used to buy albums...as in LPs!) Hope this helps! ~Amy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:59:32 -0400 From: "cjmacs" Subject: Re: something sweet jeff burka wrote: >Matthew Sweet remains my favorite for this sort of thing >(_Girlfriend_ is one of my all time favorite albums, and >_Dinosaur_ is nearly every bit as good...) but there's no >question that for a big smile, all one has to do is pop on >_Bellybutton_... and let's not forget the posies' "dear 23" !!!!! chuck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:59:07 -0400 From: Laura Clifford Subject: Re: Kieslowski & Preisner At 07:05 PM 10/3/99 -0400, neal copperman wrote: >You're right. Everyone I have ever talked to splits on either Blue or Red. >Haven't found a soul out there who liked White best, though it's a fine >movie. It's lighter (whiter), and doesn't feel as meaty, which I guess is >why it isn't as compelling as the other two. I personally am in the Red >camp, mostly because of Irene Jacob. She brought her role to life far more >than Juliete Binoche did in Blue (IMO). I thought Blue would have equalled >the power of Red if Jacob was in the title role. "Red" os actually one of my two favorite films of all time - I have the poster for it in my living room signed by Kieslowski (we attended an award from the Boston Film Critics for him - he was delightful to listen to although would have upset a lot of ecto folks with his chain smoking). >You definitely need to see Decalogue. The Polish governmant has been >sitting on it for ages (just like all of Kieslowski's back catalog. He >made a good dozen films, mostly documentaries, prior to Veronique. If >they've been shown at all in this country, the showings were very limited. >In the book Kieslowki on Kieslowki, they say that many of these films have >never been shown anywhere, including Poland.). It seem like they've been >losening the hold on Decalogue though. I first saw it (10 1-hour shorts) >at the National Gallery in DC several years ago. People showed up 3 hours >early for the free showings, and when it was all done, the people putting >it on said that they would try to replay them, but were not getting >positiver responses from whatever ministry in Poland was responsible for >approving that. ANd it didn't happen. So they had basically coordinated >the right for a single showing. Hear, hear on Decalogue! I'd die to have that available on DVD... The first Kieslowski film I saw was the long version of "A Short Film About Killing" - very powerful. There's also a lengthened version of "A Short Film About Love," but I've only seen the 1 hour one of that. Kieslowski has a few earlier films than "Double Life" - you can find them at facets video.... Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 99 12:04:14 EDT From: ken@3com-ne.com Subject: Re: Happy live at the Wire && breaking news Hey all, Thought that I'd add my few comments to Patrick's regarding The Wire. I was disappointed that there were so few people at the show, with somewhere between 20 and 40 people in the audience. However I took solace in my front row center seat, my best seat ever for a Happy concert. This was my third Happy show and I only have two complaints: It was too short :^), and Happy's vocals at times were buried under the band's sound. I don't think there's much hope for solving the first problem because Happy would go hoarse trying to satisfy the pent up demand for live Happy... Patrick said: > Like I said before, The Wire is intimate. Only the bassist and drummer were > on a slightly elevated floor; Bon and Happy were on the same level as the > audience. I think the people in the front row could've put their feet up on > Happy's Korg if they'd wanted to. Almost! We had to step over the monitors to get to the seats but my legs would need to be a foot or two longer to have rested on the Korg. It was almost too close, I felt that I could meet her eyes and stare too easily, which felt.... rude. Strange to be paying to see someone perform, yet feel that watching could be done too intensely for mutual comfort. The only thing I have to add to Pat's set list was that Happy's master set list included "If Wishes were horses, how beggars would ride", which she apparently chose not to perform. Happy had re-arranged several songs for the live band version, which sounded great. Happy was wearing her Cat in the Hat tanktop and her strategically torn jeans, along with a gray jacket/blazer thingy. And now for the breaking news.... as far as I know never before announced on Ecto (a first for me to be first!) The Wire ads all have "www.happyrhodes.com" on them, which currently goes to an under construction page, but I guess that Happy will soon have a dedicated Web site. - -Ken D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:22:17 -0500 From: Patrick Moseley Subject: Re: Happy live at the Wire && breaking news Ken D said: >I was disappointed that there were so few people at the show, with somewhere >between 20 and 40 people in the audience. I was disappointed, too (I counted heads at one point and came up with 30 people, but I think a few more filtered in after that), but I must add that if Happy was disappointed with the turnout herself, she gave no indication. I'm sure she'd have preferred a packed-out house, yet she played as if she had one. :) >However I took solace in my front >row center seat, my best seat ever for a Happy concert. I almost took your seats then, Ken! But I feared feeling exactly how you felt: that it'd almost be like staring at her if I sat that close. So I settled for second row. She still felt pretty darn close. But I don't think you needed to worry about staring at her; after her comment about that spotlight shining right in her eyes -- and the fact that she seemed to be unable to tell when the audience was laughing/smiling at her jokes -- I don't think she could really see any of us all that well. >This was my third Happy show and I only have two complaints: It was too >short :^), and Happy's vocals at times were buried under the band's sound. Amen and amen. I was worried when "Proof" started and you could barely hear her. Thankfully, the majority of her set was comprised of softer songs that her vocals could overcome; only "Proof" and "Roy" sounded problematic to me. >The only thing I have to add to Pat's set list was that Happy's master >set list included "If Wishes were horses, how beggars would ride", which she >apparently chose not to perform. I'm surprised she actually *cut* a song, since like you said her set seemed short enough. I caught a glimpse of the setlist before the show, but forced myself to look away before spoiling the whole thing for myself. >Happy had re-arranged several songs for the live band version, which sounded >great. I especially liked the acoustic intro to "Ra" ("Even the leaves laugh 'cause they have what I have") and Bon's electric guitar solo during the bridge of "Roy" (where the violin plays on the studio version), and like I said before, "All Things" sounded reinvigorated by the live version. Heck, I loved the entire show, even the songs I don't particularly care for. ("Save Our Souls" and "Ashes to Ashes" have never been favorites, but now I'm wanting to hear them again.) I forgot to mention previously, but when I asked Happy how the new album was progressing, after she said it was still in the concepts/songwriting phase, she said the new disc was going to go in a different direction than she has gone previously. She paused, and I said, "You're not going to say any more, are you?" And she said, "I'm not going to say any more, but it's going in the direction of --" and she said a word that started with "Z" but for the life of me I can't remember. My friend told me on the way home that she was identifying a style of music that's kind of a combo of hillbilly/bluegrass (! -- anybody know the word I'm searching for?) and was obviously making a joke. She's such a corker. But I do think she was serious about the "different direction" part. Just thought I'd share. Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:56:15 -0500 From: Chip Lueck Subject: Re: Happy live at the Wire && breaking news At 12:22 PM 10/4/99 -0500, Patrick Moseley wrote: >kind of a combo of hillbilly/bluegrass (! -- anybody know the word I'm >searching for?) and was obviously making a joke. She's such a corker. But I >do think she was serious about the "different direction" part. Was it Zydeco maybe? She must've been kidding, although it would be interesting to hear her do it! ================================================================= Jeff "Chip" Lueck What boots up must come down. chip@acronet.net http://www.acronet.net/~chip/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:00:03 -0500 From: Patrick Moseley Subject: Re: Happy live at the Wire && breaking news Zydeco it was (which both Chip and Kat identified simultaneously). I'd never heard the word before Saturday, but it's a Cajun style of "popular music of southern Louisiana that combines tunes of French origin with elements of Caribbean music and the blues and that features guitar, washboard, and accordion." Would be interesting to hear Happy do it, yes (after all, she did a very brief snippet of a Bugs Bunny tune during her concert on Saturday, and I'll be darned if she didn't do a great job of it even though she was just goofing around), but I for one am glad she was kidding about actually doing it. Patrick who's trying to imagine "Ra is a Busy God" arranged on guitar, washboard, and accordian. Chip wrote: >Was it Zydeco maybe? She must've been kidding, although it would be >interesting to hear her do it! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:38:24 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Zydeco (was Re: Happy live...) Patrick mentions: << Zydeco it was (which both Chip and Kat identified simultaneously). I'd never heard the word before Saturday, but it's a Cajun style of "popular music of southern Louisiana that combines tunes of French origin with elements of Caribbean music and the blues and that features guitar, washboard, and accordion." >> I think I once read that the origin of the word "Zydeco" was from the heavily Cajun pronunciation of the French word(s) for beans--"les haricots". I probably have the spelling wrong as it has been far too many years since I've had the need to write in French. Anyway...don't know if it's true, but it kind of makes sense and it's sort of fun. Just wanted to share...Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:43:34 -0400 From: Ofer Inbar Subject: Zap Mama is on tour Zap Mama, quite possible the best band in the world (and I'm being serious about that), appears to be on tour. Check out their schedule on Musi-Cal (http://www.musi-cal.com/). I'm planning to go to the October 13th show at Somerville Theatre, and the October 18th show at Pearl Street in Northampton MA. I wish I hadn't already made plans for all the weekends this month or I'd be tempted to spend a few of those following them around the country (actually, Boston -> St. Paul in a day is doable, so I may end up going to that show on the 24th...) If you're not familiar with Zap Mama, think of combining the best of Sheila Chandra, Baaba Maal, Loreena McKennitt, The Bobs, M-Pact, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, and adding a touch Spearhead, and some Blue Man Group-ish stage skills. The band has changed over the years and is no longer as a capella based as they were, there's a lot more percussion and instrumental stuff, but they're still the best vocal group around IMO. -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@polyamory.org cos@leftbank.com -- WBRS (100.1 FM) -- info@wbrs.org http://www.wbrs.org/ "I'm going down to the hollow, where the trees meet the soul" -- Trina Hamlin, Down to the Hollow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:02:38 -0500 From: Amy Lotsberg Subject: New Artist? OK well, she's not really new, but I've never heard of her... Judith Edelman. Anyone? Anyone? She is coming to my city and a friend of mine was asking me if I knew who she was. I read a little snippet about her from her label that says she is bluegrass. But I was hoping that someone would have some first hand experience with her music and could give me a thumbs up or down. I did see her site on Amazon and they have Real Audio pieces to listen to but I cannot get Real Audio at work. It's a Network/Firewall issue or some such nonsense. Can anyone help? Thanks! ~Amy ecalos.com-Women in Music http://www.ecalos.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:57:57 -0400 From: Ofer Inbar Subject: Judith Edelman (was Re: New Artist?) Amy Lotsberg wrote: > Subject: New Artist? > > OK well, she's not really new, but I've never heard of her... > Judith Edelman. Anyone? Anyone? I almost didn't read this posting because of the very generic subject, good thing I was in an adventurous ectomood! If it'd said Judith Edelman in the Subject I would of course have instantly zero'ed in on it. > She is coming to my city and a friend of mine was asking me if I knew who > she was. I read a little snippet about her from her label that says she is > bluegrass. But I was hoping that someone would have some first hand > experience with her music and could give me a thumbs up or down. Judith Edelman is one of my favorite singers and one of my favorite songwriters. I've been kind of lame about playing her stuff for ecto people but every time I have, the other person has liked her. She's not exactly bluegrass, more accurately, she's got a bluegrass band that does singer/songwriter folk material. So the sound is kind of halfway in between bluegrass and folk, and the songs are more on the folk end of things. At WBRS we have her filed in both sections. As songwriting goes, I consider her to be in a very select group along with The Nields, Jim Infantino, and Richard Shindell. I actually posted about her to ecto a year ago almost to the day. I'm going to include that posting below. I should add that at the time I only knew of one album, but there are actually two, both on Compass Records. I have since had the opportunity to do sound for her at Club Passim, and it was a wonderful experience, and I now have both albums. She was based in Idaho at the time, but I believe she has recently moved to Nashville or somewhere like that. Anyway, here's my original Judith Edelman posting to ecto: Subject: [some more artists] Judith Edelman To: ecto@smoe.org Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:00:51 -0400 (EDT) From: cos@wbrs.org (Ofer Inbar) Some of you may recall that at the beginning of June, I posted a few messages here introducing some artists that seemed ecto to me, but that I had not yet seen discussed on the list: Trina Hamlin, The Mollys, Kukuruza, Carol Noonan, and Ranch Romance. I'm going to extend the series now :) There are a lot of people I probably could have written about back in June, but today I'm going to write about two I've discovered since then: Judith Edelman, and Valerie Carrington. Judith Edelman, like Dana & Karen Kletter earlier this year, came out of the blue for me. I'd never heard the name, and the CD showed up in the mail at WBRS, so I played something from it on my show. A random track, I forget which now, but about 30 seconds into it I was taking a second look at the CD jacket, and realizing that I was going to have to buy one for myself. The album is called "only sun", and it's on Compass Records. That's the label co-founded and run by my musical goddess, Alison Brown. I only noticed that this CD is on Compass after I was hooked by the sound, but it did remind me that I've really liked everything I've heard on Compass so far. The music is... bright. It's got a bright sound to it, even for those songs where the mood is down. There's a lot of mood on this album, though, and many of the songs are somewhat ambiguous. Judith's voice is folk with a tinge of country, like a little pinch of Claire Lynch or Iris DeMent, but with the ability to go deep like the Kletters. Instrumentation on the album is impressive: acoustic guitar & bass, cello, fiddle, mandolin, bazouki, lap steel, acoustic slide guitar, drums, percussion. But it all comes together more simply than you'd expect. On first listen, you wouldn't think there 10 people in there. But it's there if you listen better. One of the first things I noticed: four of the tracks feature Darol Anger on fiddle. The CD arrived in early August, just as I set out on my long road trip, so I didn't encounter it until early September. A few weeks later, I was making a mix tape for a person close to me, and though not yet really familiar with this album, decided to check it out and see if there was anything appropriate for my tape... and found a song that was so right on target, it scared me. It's that kind of album. I'll leave off with some sample lyrics, from the title track: i used to have a climate all my own skies i could read, rain in bones i used to spin around myself, how i would spin now i'm revolving around him day used to creep, shy across my room he broke the clocks, now it's always noon i miss the gloom of five a.m, i miss the night how long can his love burn this bright? -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@polyamory.org "Oh, it isn't very hard, the cellar's in the attic and the attic's in the yard Oh, try it now and see, the ocean's in the kitchen and the kitchen's on TV." -- Honest Bob & the Factory to Dealer Incentives, "My Dinner With Laurie" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:56:17 EDT From: Damniel@aol.com Subject: Re: Uhh, perhaps it's not my place to say this, but... In a message dated 10/2/99 00:02:26 Pacific Daylight Time, Andrew Fries dictated: > In this spirit, I'm going to answer. Larry, you've got it: Indeed it is > NOT your place to say any such thing. You will not dictate what others > can or cannot discuss. Large number of posts on any subject indicates it > is relevant and of interest to many on the list. If you're not one of > them then tough luck, use your filters, delete keys, killfiles - or > unsubscribe. Has this list lost its sense of humor? Honestly, after so many long-winded and/or self-righteous (and in many cases hilariously indignant) posts, my guess is that when Larry Troxler said: > >CAN > >EVERYONE > >JUST > >PLEASE > >SHUT > >THE > >FUCK > >UP > >ALREADY !!?!?! he was going for wry irony. I suppose there are people who consider name calling, vituperation and the beating of dead horses "relevant and of interest." Certainly there are people who feel the need to correct those who do not share their opinions. I laughed when I read Mr. Troxler's post because, in light of recent 'relevant and interesting' posts (and whether or not he intended humor), it was funny. Besides, even if he does intend to dictate others' behavior, it might be fun to watch him try. Daniel, reminding you that Free Speech is worth the price . . . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:03:24 -0400 (EDT) From: kitty kat Subject: Re: Happy live at the Wire && breaking news I think the word's Zydeco - I can't reply to the list, I believe, because you have to be mailing from the account you're subscribed under, and I don't have access to mail from it at work. Kat On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Patrick Moseley wrote: > Ken D said: > >I was disappointed that there were so few people at the show, with somewhere > >between 20 and 40 people in the audience. > > I was disappointed, too (I counted heads at one point and came up > with 30 people, but I think a few more filtered in after that), but I must > add that if Happy was disappointed with the turnout herself, she gave no > indication. I'm sure she'd have preferred a packed-out house, yet she > played as if she had one. :) > > >However I took solace in my front > >row center seat, my best seat ever for a Happy concert. > > I almost took your seats then, Ken! But I feared feeling exactly > how you felt: that it'd almost be like staring at her if I sat that close. > So I settled for second row. She still felt pretty darn close. But I don't > think you needed to worry about staring at her; after her comment about > that spotlight shining right in her eyes -- and the fact that she seemed to > be unable to tell when the audience was laughing/smiling at her jokes -- I > don't think she could really see any of us all that well. > > >This was my third Happy show and I only have two complaints: It was too > >short :^), and Happy's vocals at times were buried under the band's sound. > > Amen and amen. I was worried when "Proof" started and you could > barely hear her. Thankfully, the majority of her set was comprised of > softer songs that her vocals could overcome; only "Proof" and "Roy" sounded > problematic to me. > > >The only thing I have to add to Pat's set list was that Happy's master > >set list included "If Wishes were horses, how beggars would ride", which she > >apparently chose not to perform. > > I'm surprised she actually *cut* a song, since like you said her > set seemed short enough. I caught a glimpse of the setlist before the show, > but forced myself to look away before spoiling the whole thing for myself. > > >Happy had re-arranged several songs for the live band version, which sounded > >great. > > I especially liked the acoustic intro to "Ra" ("Even the leaves > laugh 'cause they have what I have") and Bon's electric guitar solo during > the bridge of "Roy" (where the violin plays on the studio version), and > like I said before, "All Things" sounded reinvigorated by the live version. > Heck, I loved the entire show, even the songs I don't particularly care > for. ("Save Our Souls" and "Ashes to Ashes" have never been favorites, but > now I'm wanting to hear them again.) > > I forgot to mention previously, but when I asked Happy how the new > album was progressing, after she said it was still in the > concepts/songwriting phase, she said the new disc was going to go in a > different direction than she has gone previously. She paused, and I said, > "You're not going to say any more, are you?" And she said, "I'm not going > to say any more, but it's going in the direction of --" and she said a word > that started with "Z" but for the life of me I can't remember. My friend > told me on the way home that she was identifying a style of music that's > kind of a combo of hillbilly/bluegrass (! -- anybody know the word I'm > searching for?) and was obviously making a joke. She's such a corker. But I > do think she was serious about the "different direction" part. > > Just thought I'd share. > > Patrick > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:58:10 -0500 From: Zoetrope Subject: Re: too much to give a proper name. long. possibly boring. llamajoe (hi, llama!) sez: >I believe that reacting to one's own sensitive topics is >healthy, as long as it's done with thoughtfulness and respect, even if the >antagonist did not do so. This is the difference between 'reacting' and 'responding'. A reaction is an emotion, a response is how one chooses to act. Both are valid, only one is deliberate. Reactions are important in discussion... in regards to works of art, music, etc., and occasionally to break through certain personal barriers. Many artists (and other provocateurs) really desire to bring forth that first, unfiltered utterance. One cannot help how one feels; feelings are a crucial part of a whole being that need to be addressed in some fashion. The choices that people make in regards to those feelings will determine how situations progress. Having passed, for the most part, through my hedonistic existentialist phase of my twenties successfully through to the other side (help, I've tripped and I can't come down)... I strive to respond rather than react, in an effort to be more acutely aware. It doesn't always work. ~!@L. "Follow what you will. See. Read. Write. Cry. Scoff. Aggrandize. Such is the path to an unrealized state of enlightenment." - Banjo Ruthless & I.N.X.J.U., The Surrealism Server (ack, I said enlightenment. feel free to roll your eyes. let's synchronize it, like the wave at a football game.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 20:33:45 -0400 (EDT) From: joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell) Subject: new stuff Hi. My package *finally* arrived from ABSound today. Interestingly enough, it took a shorter time for this to come from Vancouver to Ohio than for my 1 disc ordered from CDNow and shipped 2 days earlier to arrive. Can't say how much shorter time, because the CDNow disc *still* hasn't come. Sigh. Maybe tomorrow. Anyway, I have 4 brilliant and wonderful new cd's to listen to! So all is well. Okay, I've only listened to 2 so far, but I bet the other 2 are going to be brilliant and wonderful as well. EMM GRYNER _Science Fair_ Thanks to those ectophiles who talked this up; I would never have known it was released or even made otherwise. And let me add my hearty thumbs up. This album has all of _Public_'s merits, but they come through far better without all the added production. (I'm not putting down _Public_ because I like that album a lot.) This goes in more of an acoustic direction where _Public_ went pop. YUNGCHEN LHAMO _Coming Home_ I'd heard about this artist and toyed with buying one of her albums, but it was Cyoakah's (forgive if misspelled please) post this summer (I think this was during the Paula Cole debate and Cy had this wonderful, insightful post) that inspired me. I'm only on track 2 so far, but the vocals are beautiful. Very clear, melodic. Ambient background. It's simple but most definitely not simplistic. Cy said it much better. Anyway, I'd like to put together a Guide page for her. That's assuming no one's working on one right now. The other stuff is Natalie MacMaster _In My Hands_ (she's Canadian, right?) and Cesaria Evora _Cabo Verde_. Both of these are new artists for me, but I'm looking forward to listening. JoAnn np: _Coming Home_ Yungchen Lhamo Neile, feel free to take these comments ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:51:33 -0600 From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Yungchen Lhamo and Frifot JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > > YUNGCHEN LHAMO _Coming Home_ See her live if at all possible. She performed in Boulder last year during a national conference for students working on human rights in Tibet. She is an incredibly gracious human being, and her voice is even better live. Plus, she explained all of the songs and told us more of her life story. It was a wonderful night. Oh, and I really enjoyed the Frifot concert also. Meredith Carson from Denver's Swallow Hill Folk Music Assoc. was sure to book Frifot after hearing them at Folk Alliance (is that where you saw them, Neal?) last year, and I'm very glad she did. (I have a review of the show online at the Rambles site: http://www.rambles.net/frifot_live.html -- it's not the best review I've ever written, but I think it addresses their amazing range.) Their second American release is available tomorrow. Ellen ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #333 **************************