From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #332 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, October 4 1999 Volume 05 : Number 332 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Katell Keineg's Jet, and others [Eek the Cat ] Re: Kieslowski (was Katell Keineg's Jet, and others) [Zoetrope ] Re: too much to give a proper name. long. possibly boring. [Joe Casadonte] [none] [joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell)] Re: listen up... [Dave Williamson ] Re: listen up...again? [FAMarcus@aol.com] Re: Kieslowski & Preisner [Philip David Morgan ] TMBG at showbox [Damon des Jumeaux ] something sweet [Elina Sorva ] Re: something sweet ["Chris Montville" ] Re: something sweet [Sue Trowbridge ] Re: something sweet [Philip David Morgan ] Re: Kieslowski & Preisner [Yngve Hauge ] Re: Kieslowski & Preisner [neal copperman ] [OT] Blatant self-promotion ["Neil K. Guy" ] Re: [Sherlyn Koo ] Re: something sweet [Jeffrey Burka ] other interesting news [joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 01:08:17 +1300 From: Eek the Cat Subject: Re: Katell Keineg's Jet, and others Replies, replies, everywhere... >> And something I just have to recommend is Zbignew Preisner's >> "Requiem for my Friend" which I went in search of after hearing to which Yngve wondered: >Does the liner notes say anything more about the music? My favorite >work by Preisner is his soundtrack for "Two Lives of Veronica" by >Kieslowski to whom I would presume this album is as well. Yes indeed... "Once we had a joint conception to create a concert telling a life story. The premiere was planned to take place on thew Acropolis in Athens. It was intended to be a large event, a hybrid of a mystery play and an opera. Krysztof Kieslowski would be the director, Krysztof Piesiewicz was responsible for the script, and I was planning to compose the music. "Once, we thought it might be the first of a series of musical performances, to be developed in various interesting places around the world in the next few years. "But it was life that authored a different ending: Krysztof Kieslowski died on the 13th March 1996. "The first part of _Requiem for my friend_ is meant as a farewell to Krysztof Kieslowski. "I dedicate this music to him." >If you haven't seen this film yet, then you've missed something really >special, and the soundtrack is gorgous. So what I wonder - is this a >standalone work, or different pieces of music picked from his other >recordings of his? The album is in fact two entirely seperate pieces: "Requiem" and "Life", each having been recorded in different places, with mostly different people playing and singing on each (Towarnicka is soprano for both, though.) I don't think any of it is from previous works. The liner notes also give a brief overview of Preisner's film scores, and closes by saying that "_Requiem for my friend_ is Preisner's first large-scale work specially written for recording and live performance." (That seems to cover Christian's query also :) JoAnn ectosynchronised: >_OSOC_ grew on me pretty quickly, but it was definitely an >album that required time and repeat listening and growth to appreciate. >There are songs on it I always love like "Hestia" and "Paris" I didn't get around to playing it today, but it's going with me to work in the morning... There's probably a good chance that i'll appreciate it a whole heap more by that time the day's over... >and others that seem to be more mood songs, or rather that in certain >moods at least I don't like them nearly as much as at other times/moods. Yep, music's often like that. The trick is to know exactly which albums suit your current mood... I've rather since passed the point where I can pick the perfect album from the pile -- the pile's too big, and my memory's too bad :) >>(bonus Ecto connection... I see that Jet was recorded in Bearsville :) >> >Where's that? I'm missing something here. Bearsville, New York; the recording home to a bunch of albums by a certain Ms Rhodes with whom you may be familiar... >>Disappear Fear Live at the Bottom Line > -Now this is an album I have to listen to again. I really like the >self-titled album and only liked a few songs off the one after that (I >forget the name). I haven't heard any of the other albums except for this >one, which didn't really grab me. I also only have those two (although I haven't had the eponymous one for long either...), and from first impressions at least I also prefer the studio album. > Patty Larkin's Perishable Fruit, > -This was the first of Patty's albums that I got. I just thought >the concept was so interesting. I had read how she wanted to do an album >without drums (or without percussion or without both, I don't remember >exactly) and how she wanted to invite different guest artists (like Jane >Siberry, Jennifer Kimball and others) to play and sing with her and use >their instruments like percussion. I'm going to have to pay more attention the next time I play this one... I knew Jane was on "Coming Up For Air", but I wasn't even aware of that whole aspect to it... >I have no original ideas right now. We'll have to endeavour to inspire you by talking about CDs you've never heard of before... :) (oh, the dizzy heights of imagining I could write three times in less than three months...) Jeff reassured: >No, you're not that clueless. At least in DC, "Stolen Car" got >a tremendous amount of airplay. That's a relief... I read that comment immediately before first listening to (and subsequently buying) it, so I went straight from reading that to hearing Stolen Car and being more than a little bewildered as a result! >Of course, they seemed to think she was a "new artist," but hey, >at least they were playing decent music. Now it seems they don't >play anything but Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, and other such crap. Such tends to be the way with radio :/ (Speaking of which, someone in my office has taken to playing a radio tuned to something atrocious, for which I'm tremendously grateful -- as I now have the perfect excuse to have my headphones in nearly all the time :) :) Sherlyn pointed out: >You can see an animated representation at >http://www.christinelavin.com. (Click on the "Turn >the lights out" link too - it's very funny!) Ha! Thanks Sherlyn :) So when she was trying to do two at once, was she kind of juggling? >Also out last week was the new Indigo Girls album >"Come On Now Social", which is an excellent and far >less folky and more eclectic mix than anything >they've ever done before... So, do you get paid for moderating the IG list when they release a not-very-folky album? :) - -Philip (hoping there's no bad typos, 'cause I'm too tired to proof-read...) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 10:21:19 -0500 From: Zoetrope Subject: Re: Kieslowski (was Katell Keineg's Jet, and others) >Does the liner notes say anything more about the music? My favorite >work by Preisner is his soundtrack for "Two Lives of Veronica" by >Kieslowski to whom I would presume this album is as well. If you >haven't seen this film yet, then you've missed something really >special, and the soundtrack is gorgous. So what I wonder - is this >a standalone work, or different pieces of music picked from his other >recordings of his? I agree, it's a brilliant film... at which I wept, tho my s/o just kinda went 'what'?... but those are typically the different reactions we have to certain books & films. Could anyone point me to other movies of his? (other than the Red, White, Blue trilogy, which I also loved) And didn't he die a couple years ago? (alas, no more to come?) I'd also be interested in the Preisner info. (are the recordings packaged as movie soundtracks, stand-alone works, or both?) ~!@L. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 10:41:36 -0500 From: Zoetrope Subject: Kieslowski & Preisner After the first cup of coffee, answering my own question (and it's just decaf). Kieslowski filmography http://www.magna.com.au/~sabre/films.htm Links to Kieslowski sites http://www.petey.com/kklist/pjkweb.htm An excellent Preisner site, with discography and filmography http://members.dencity.com/metestudio/mete_preisner.htm ~!@L. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 11:22:08 -0400 From: Joe Casadonte Subject: Re: too much to give a proper name. long. possibly boring. Chris & Zoe: Both posts were extremely well-done IMHO. Nothing like well-written, articulate, semi-stream-of-consciousness posts-with-a-point-I-happen-to-agree-with to start a Sunday morning. I can't wait to read Zoe's next post.... Literally; I had to read it before posting this. Another one well said! You folks should write this down in a book or something. No sarcasm or hyperbole here, I mean it! Of course, taken out of context it wouldn't have nearly the same impact. Ecto-at-large: As they say, though: Everything in moderation including moderation. Some amount of conflict is good, I think, even though I personally avoid conflict like the plague. That bit about perspective is the thing to really keep in mind. A little bit of that goes a long, long way. Of course, this is all from my own perspective; for other's Ecto is every bit a family, worth defending vociferously. A thought on "sensitivity": Lots of folks (almost everyone?) has them on one topic or another. My particular ones aren't the same as most others, but then I'd hazard to say that my experiences in life are different from most others. I believe that reacting to one's own sensitive topics is healthy, as long as it's done with thoughtfulness and respect, even if the antagonist did not do so. 'Nuff said for now! 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Wait... that doesn't make much sense. I figured out that my roommate's computer can play mpegs although not realaudio, so I listened to a lot of soundclips last night at CDNow. Heard clips of the first four songs of Paula's _Amen_ which sounded about as disappointing as described here. Also read that Amy Ray is most likely going to be coming out with a solo album, hopefully on her own label, Daemon Records, so timing depends on their contract with Epic. I think I'll go pick up _A Go Go_ today. Didn't realize it was out yet. Thanks, Sherlyn. Bye for now. JoAnn ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:25:09 -0700 From: Dave Williamson Subject: Re: listen up... No argument from me. Regardless of the exchange beforehand, what went on behind his back after he left was just plain ugly. blah blah blah wrote: > > > I certainly am disappointed with the joyous > > celebration surrounding the driving off of a long-time > > member and contributor. > > > > Jeff Hanson > > i have to fully agree with JEFF here. despite the obviously > inflammatory and uncalled for name calling that CHARLEY > did resort to in the end, i personally find it equally as offensive > that people are ready to dismiss him, without a second thought. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:44:14 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: listen up...again? In a message dated 10/3/99 12:26:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dlw@sympatico.ca writes: << i have to fully agree with JEFF here. despite the obviously > inflammatory and uncalled for name calling that CHARLEY > did resort to in the end, i personally find it equally as offensive > that people are ready to dismiss him, without a second thought. >> charley has to take the responsibility for his words. whatever was done was done by charley himself. he seemed to fire himself up which each email he posted. he left on his on accord and maybe thats what his intention was from the beginning. maybe he needed to justify it to himself. i sure as hell didnt see why he blew up a minor situation to that proportion. and that "inflammatory and uncalled for name calling" is what prompted everyone to take offense to. i dont think people dismissed him inasmuch as he "dismissed" himself. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 15:05:15 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Re: Kieslowski & Preisner Hello, everyone, including Yngve: From the Kieslowski/Preisner thread: > >Does the liner notes [for _Requiem for my Friend_] say anything more about the > music? My favorite > >work by Preisner is his soundtrack for "Two Lives of Veronica" by > >Kieslowski to whom I would presume this album is as well. For Ectophiles in North America: Yngve was referring to the film released by a pre-Disney Miramax as _The Double Life of Vernonique_, which starred _Three Colors - Red_ co-star Irene Jacob. _Double Life..._ will be a bit difficult for those not familiar with Kieslowski, and not as accessible as any of the _Three Colors_ movies. But the photography and music were especially striking. Paramount released the film on home video, for those looking for it (pan/scan, but at least it's decently subtitled). There was also a soundtrack album, availible as an import with the film's French title (_La vie double de Veronique_). Oh yes, for those curious enough to track down the _Three Colors_ movies: Disney sheared those two words off the titles of the films for North America - hence, _Blue_, _White_, and _Red_. I can't quite forgive them for that decision: _Blue_ is also the name of the last film by the late (and sadly missed) Derek Jarman. Philip David (if you're gonna release foreign films in the States, get the titles right) 10/3/1999 - -- npimh: _Playboy & Playgirl_ - Pizzicato Five - -- http://dianewolkstein.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:13:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Damon des Jumeaux Subject: TMBG at showbox are there many other TMBG fans on ecto? i remember someone on irc ages ago who would rave about them before i even knew what the acronym was, let alone anything about them. i don't know that they're particularly ecto fodder, as i don't see them discussed much here, but i guess i have a tendency to put anything i like that seems intelligent, interesting, thoughtful for `more different than most' under the ecto umbrella (and yes, there's some stuff i like for whatever reason that i wouldn't really consider intelligent, interesting, thoughtful for different ;). so, in that spirit, i shall post the following: well! back and (almost) recovered from one of the more spontaneous things i've ever done, which was a planned-and-executed-within-one-week overnight trip to seattle to see they might be giants at the showbox on oct. 1st. (what? ...so i'm not a very spontaneous person, so what?) unfortunately it ended up costing more than we expected, as for some completely baffling reason the canadian greyhound office decided to quote us the trip cost in US$ rather than CDN$ (huh?)... and i will probably never go to a standing room only concert again if i can avoid it... nor was it much fun waiting in the cold until 2.17am for a bus it turned out we couldn't take anyway, not to mention being opinionated at by the one other person at the bus stop (when he got to why homosexuality was wrong we finally left and went to stand on the corner). *but* (intake of breath) the concert itself was great, and i don't regret the expense, even if i'd be leery of doing it again. anyway, i'll definitely recommend seeing them live for anyone who is attracted by their absurdity... it carries over into live delivery quite well. we all agreed that they were, somehow, `even more like we expected than we expected'. :) the two johns complement each other in a way that can't really come across in a recording... john flansburgh jumping around the stage, lifting the microphone poll high above his head, pounding a huge drum out over the heads of the front row (and actually hitting someone by accident, for which we saw him apologising profusely), and soliciting guitar chords from the audience; john linnell mostly staying put at the keyboards or standing with his accordion, making strange faces, looking somehow vaguely acerbic, vaguely excited, and vaguely a little like neither of the above, but overall like he was really enjoying himself (i think) - hard to describe, but somehow he looked like someone you'd really like to know, and yet you'd never know quite what to expect from him. sounds like a certain band. ;) the music was great... they showcased some new stuff but the volume was so high i didn't get a good feel for any of the new songs... i think everyone was there for the good old rockers anyway; i swear i thought the floor was going to give out. i think it's neat the way TMBG songs start out being captivating for the strange sounds and strange lyrics, grow on you to the point where you just-about-but-not-quite `get' the lyrics, and then metamorphose into just really great songs you can listen to over and over. (well, this is my experience... if you don't like TMBG, you don't like TMBG i suppose). - --- as for recent firey discussions, i'd just like to agree with most of the well-thought-out posts (contradictory as some of them may seem), disagree with a lot of the not-well-thought-out-ones, and generally just keep my nose out of it... ecto has been a good place to be, and though i'm firmly in the ranks of people who've been around for a while but no longer post/read very actively (i somehow *missed out* on the whole introduction of ectofest; finding out about it afterwards has made me determined to at least read once in a while!), i'd love for it to continue to be such a place. however, i have no dictatory road map i'd like to espouse to show us how to stay on that path. *shrug* - -damon, avoiding work. Damon Harper des Jumeaux _/>_ "Canadians lie awake at night damon@jumeaux.bc.ca __\ /__ worrying if there's a hyphen Les Jums: jumeaux@jumeaux.bc.ca \ / in anal retentive." http://www.jumeaux.bc.ca/damon/ |/||\| - Red Green ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:20:37 +0300 (EEST) From: Elina Sorva Subject: something sweet this can't be good for me. this must be unhealthy. i think i'm going to be sick, cause i won't stop listening til i've had too much... i'm halfway through my first listen of SPILT MILK by JELLYFISH. this is totally ridiculous, this is excessively sweet, yet so irresistibly delicious. what is this? is this some chart topper band which i totally managed to miss? (wouldn't be a wonder, cause at the time this record was made ('93) my ears would only open to queen...) or am i perhaps the only one charmed by the spilt milk spell? is there more of this sickly sweet jelly to spoil myself with? thanks, all, elina ps. i wouldn't dare to tell everyone here of this new vice of mine -not to mention asking for advice about how to indulge even more- but i think i remember seeing the name JELLYFISH mentioned here at some point of time.....or am i fatally mistaken? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:33:44 -0400 From: "Chris Montville" Subject: Re: something sweet > is this some chart topper band which i totally managed to miss? (wouldn't > be a wonder, cause at the time this record was made ('93) my ears would > only open to queen...) or am i perhaps the only one charmed by the spilt > milk spell? Jellyfish was never a chart-topper band, but Spilt Milk was pretty big on the "alternative" charts back when it was popular to refer to them as such. "Ghost at Number One" got a lot of airplay on 120 minutes and such. I was stuck in the middle of high school at the time, so that was probably around 1994. > is there more of this sickly sweet jelly to spoil myself with? Spilt Milk was their second album; I assume it was also their last. Don't remember the name of the first album, but it was pretty much more the same thing. Try used bins or the 'net. > ps. i wouldn't dare to tell everyone here of this new vice of mine -not > to mention asking for advice about how to indulge even more- but i think > i remember seeing the name JELLYFISH mentioned here at some point of > time.....or am i fatally mistaken? I doubt there's a band that hasn't been mentioned on ecto at some point! Chris. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:36:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: something sweet On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Elina Sorva wrote: > i'm halfway through my first listen of SPILT MILK by JELLYFISH. this is > totally ridiculous, this is excessively sweet, yet so irresistibly > delicious. what is this? Jellyfish were a power pop band and now that you have discovered them, there is lots more to collect. There's the first Jellyfish album, BELLYBUTTON; plus various Jellyfish offshoots such as the Grays (whose lone album, RO SHAM BO, is now out of print but worth seeking out), Jason Falkner (two fantastic solo albums), and Imperial Teen. You can check out the Ultimate Band List (www.ubl.com) for a list of sites devoted to Jellyfish. - --Sue Trowbridge * albany, california trow@slip.net * www.interbridge.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 15:40:09 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Re: something sweet Hello, Everyone: On the subject of Jellyfish: > > is this some chart topper band which i totally managed to miss?... From Chris' reply: > Jellyfish was never a chart-topper band, but Spilt Milk was pretty big on the > "alternative" charts back when it was popular to refer to them as > such....Don't remember the name of the first album, but it was pretty much > more the same thing... All of their albums were on the Virgin/Charisma imprint. My sister liked them. _Bellybutton_ was the name of their first album. Philip David (who was unhappy on the day the Mad Hatter got replaced by an all-too-corporate "C") 10/3/1999 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:54:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Kieslowski & Preisner On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Philip David Morgan wrote: > For Ectophiles in North America: Yngve was referring to the film released by a > pre-Disney Miramax as _The Double Life of Vernonique_, which starred _Three > Colors - Red_ co-star Irene Jacob. Irene Jacob is my alltime favorite movie actress. Not just for her striking act in the above mentioned movie, but also for her part in Othello, Hamlet and her latest film which I can't remember the title of right now. > > _Double Life..._ will be a bit difficult for those not familiar with Kieslowski, > and not as accessible as any of the _Three Colors_ movies. But the photography > and music were especially striking. My favorite part got to be the ending ... it is so mysterious and can be interpreted in so many different ways. But most of all I think the way the music and the movie fits together is just fabulous - it is so clear that both were made by people knowining each other very well. Which of the 3 colour movies is the best has been a discussion topic ever since they were released. I haven't seen "White" yet, but I would presume that most of the people disagree on "Blue" and "Red" :) I'm not sure myself actually. They are so very different from eachother, so to compare them would be rather stupid IMHO ... I love them both though :) > > Paramount released the film on home video, for those looking for it (pan/scan, > but at least it's decently subtitled). I've been looking for the film with norwegian subtitles for ages. To see it dubbed would be a crime!! > There was also a soundtrack album, availible as an import with the film's French > title (_La vie double de Veronique_). The interesting thing is that there was a lot of discussion about this unknown composer from the Netherlands called Van den Bodenmayer. Pretty amusing as it turned out it was Preisner writing music under a pseudonym. Even I wondered at one point until I was told the truth :) *hugs* Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:05:54 -0400 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Kieslowski & Preisner At 11:54 PM +0200 10/3/99, Yngve Hauge wrote: >Irene Jacob is my alltime favorite movie actress. Not just for her >striking act in the above mentioned movie, but also for her part in >Othello, Hamlet and her latest film which I can't remember the title >of right now. She's one of my absolute faves too. I recently saw her in My Life So Far (reuniting the team that made Chariots of Fire), which was a charming movie. A bit of a trifle role for Irene, but it's always a joy to see her. Basically, she has the role of the pretty young foreign wife (which allows her to speak accented English, rather than French), which mostly calls for her to be adorable. Ok, so I do find her adorable, but I like her for her ability to be more than that, and there were occasional glimpses of that in the film, but not many. > I haven't seen "White" yet, but I would presume that most of the >people disagree on "Blue" and "Red" :) I'm not sure myself actually. They >are so very different from eachother, so to compare them would be rather >stupid IMHO ... I love them both though :) You're right. Everyone I have ever talked to splits on either Blue or Red. Haven't found a soul out there who liked White best, though it's a fine movie. It's lighter (whiter), and doesn't feel as meaty, which I guess is why it isn't as compelling as the other two. I personally am in the Red camp, mostly because of Irene Jacob. She brought her role to life far more than Juliete Binoche did in Blue (IMO). I thought Blue would have equalled the power of Red if Jacob was in the title role. > >> There was also a soundtrack album, availible as an import with the >>film's French >> title (_La vie double de Veronique_). > >The interesting thing is that there was a lot of discussion about this >unknown composer from the Netherlands called Van den Bodenmayer. Pretty >amusing as it turned out it was Preisner writing music under a pseudonym. >Even I wondered at one point until I was told the truth :) You definitely need to see Decalogue. The Polish governmant has been sitting on it for ages (just like all of Kieslowski's back catalog. He made a good dozen films, mostly documentaries, prior to Veronique. If they've been shown at all in this country, the showings were very limited. In the book Kieslowki on Kieslowki, they say that many of these films have never been shown anywhere, including Poland.). It seem like they've been losening the hold on Decalogue though. I first saw it (10 1-hour shorts) at the National Gallery in DC several years ago. People showed up 3 hours early for the free showings, and when it was all done, the people putting it on said that they would try to replay them, but were not getting positiver responses from whatever ministry in Poland was responsible for approving that. ANd it didn't happen. So they had basically coordinated the right for a single showing. SOme years previous, the whole thing was shown (with admission costs) at FilmFest DC. But this year, it played in Albuquerque, Baltimore and San Francisco (and those are just the places I personally know about), so it may be more readily available now. I think it cements Kieslowski reputation. Veronique, Decalog and Three Colors are all losely connected and are amazing. One of the Decalog films was expanded into a feature length release called "A SHort Film About Killing". I never saw it, but am led to believe that it merely adds a bit more violence to the fairly graphic shorter version. I know more tidibits, but think that might be enough for now :) neal ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:29:26 -0700 From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: [OT] Blatant self-promotion Okay, this really isn't totally Ecto-related at all, but I think it may be of interest to some folks here. Many of you know that I've been working on a huge work of interactive fiction (ie: a text adventure - remember Zork?) for several years now. Well, that one isn't finished. However, I started and actually completed a much smaller work as a sort of test project. And it's now online for anyone who's interested. http://www.tela.bc.ca/six-stories/ It's software that runs on Mac, PC, UNIX, Amiga. And it's an interactive textual story. Mac and PC users also have the option of viewing illustrations and hearing music and sound with it as well. The thing is actually an entry in an annual interactive fiction competition in which anyone can judge and vote. So if you find it at all interesting, please check out the other games in the contest. Thanks! We now return to your regularly scheduled programming. - Neil K. - -- t e l a computer consulting + design * Vancouver, BC, Canada phone: (604) 254-0520 * email: tela@tela.bc.ca web: http://www.tela.bc.ca/tela/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:08:31 +1000 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: Re: Hey folks, JoAnn said: >Also read that Amy Ray is most likely going to be coming out with a solo >album, hopefully on her own label, Daemon Records, so timing depends on >their contract with Epic. It'll be interesting to see what happens in that regard. I believe the Indigo Girls' contract with Epic may have been for six studio albums, in which case last week's release fulfils that contract. IG may re-sign, or go to another label (I don't know if it would be Daemon given that it's not-for-profit and has definitely never had such a high profile act on its roster). Amy's own solo project is highly likely to be with her own label, no matter what happens with the band. In any event, given their past patterns, IG will probably be touring to support the new album for at least six months (in the US and overseas), plus touring for Honor the Earth etc after that, so it will be a while before we find out... >I think I'll go pick up _A Go Go_ today. Didn't realize it was out yet. >Thanks, Sherlyn. Always glad to inspire EWS in others. :) *grin* sherlyn =-= Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-= [Sydney, Australia] "Going eighty on the highway, we're all rushing somewhere; But the way I feel tonight, it's like I'm already there..." - Lucy Kaplansky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:50:01 -0400 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: something sweet Elina Sorva sez: > i'm halfway through my first listen of SPILT MILK by JELLYFISH. this is > totally ridiculous, this is excessively sweet, yet so irresistibly > delicious. what is this? Actually, to my mind, "this" is a pale follow up to their mind-numbingly brilling first album, which, as several other folks have pointed out, was called _Bellybutton_. Utterly worth checking out. > ps. i wouldn't dare to tell everyone here of this new vice of mine -not > to mention asking for advice about how to indulge even more- but i think > i remember seeing the name JELLYFISH mentioned here at some point of > time.....or am i fatally mistaken? Oh, they've definitely been mentioned -- I was talking about them here back in the early 90's. As for whether or not it's a vice, Jellyfish released fabulously produced, lush, hooky, fun pop music, and there are a number of us here who dig that sort of thing. In some ways, it falls into the same camp as, say, That Dog or Matthew Sweet. I might even be tempted to place Hole into this category -- as much as Hole is all about angsty punkish raucousness, there's an incredible pop sensibility there that can't quite be hidden by the grungy, distorted guitars and vocals from Courtney Love. Matthew Sweet remains my favorite for this sort of thing (_Girlfriend_ is one of my all time favorite albums, and _Dinosaur_ is nearly every bit as good...) but there's no question that for a big smile, all one has to do is pop on _Bellybutton_... jeff n.p. _Western Wall | The Tucson Sessions_, Linda Ronstadt & Emmylou Harris (I _really_ need to get a copy of this for my folks...my stepmother, especially, will dig the hell out of it) - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | http://burka.jeffrey.net ||||"I've got time to rest / | ||||||||||||| And I've got a clear, able mind that sees my life going fine. | | 'Cause everything I need is right here in my hands..." --Melissa Ferrick | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 22:16:39 -0400 (EDT) From: joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell) Subject: other interesting news I saw on Rykodisc's page today that Cocteau Twins: BBC Sessions is going to be released on Oct. 12 this year. JoAnn np: Veda Hille _Path of a Body_ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #332 **************************