From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #219 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, June 28 1999 Volume 05 : Number 219 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Garmana [Dirk Kastens ] Re: Best List (Nick Drake) ["Alundra (Larry)" ] Re: ecto-digest V5 #218 [Irvin Lin ] Re: Best List [Andrew Fries ] X, Milla, Kaplansky/Gorka, Dates [Shirley Ye ] big Happy ad in pulse mag! [Reneecamp@aol.com] Dido! [Nick Nadel ] Re: Dido! [Stuart Myerburg ] Re: Dido! [Neile Graham ] trip to Chicago [Cheri Villines ] Re: Dido! [Stuart Myerburg ] Re: Dido! [Joseph Zitt ] Susan McKeown and Kila at the Towne Crier [Michael Curry ] Betreft: ecto-digest V5 #216 ["Marcel Rijs" ] Help sponser Penelope & Loners Of America in the Aidswalk [Neile Graham <] ecto compilation title [meredith ] Ecto comp; Tori tour ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] Re: Ecto comp; Tori tour [meredith ] Re: Ecto comp; Tori tour [Mark Miazga ] Re: Susan McKeown and Kila at the Towne Crier [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:50:57 +0200 From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Re: Garmana Hi Bronny, At 09:30 28.06.99 +0930, blloyd@ashfordhosp.com.au wrote: >I'm also really interested in listening to this band - could you let me >know where the audio samples are ?? They can be found on their Swedish homepage http://www.cabal.se/massproduktion/garmarna/index.html They also have a US side somewhere. I bought their latest album on Friday and I can't stop listening to it. The power of the music and the singer's voice are incredible. Vengeance definitely is a candidate for my album of the year. Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:27:30 -0700 From: "Alundra (Larry)" Subject: Re: Best List (Nick Drake) Nick Nadel wrote: > Subject: Best List > > I was recently reading one of those "Best of City" issues in the local > weekly here in La and i got an idea for an ecto related one: > > [...] > Best albums for a rainy day: > > Nick Drake-Way to Blue: The best of this amazing singer is an essiential > album and the best soundtrack to that day you spend with the cat thinking > about the guy/girl you once loved. >[...] http://www.users.interport.net/~aske/drake.htm So many "best-of" albums seem to leave out that song that you consider quintessential, but a lot of thought went into the song selection for _Way To Blue_, and if you haven't yet experienced the life-change that you'll get from discovering Nick Drake's music, I highly recommend this compilation as an excellent primer. The only other song I would have put on that album would have to be "Man In A Shed," speaking of thinking about that guy/girl you once loved. I lied-I'd also add "Clothes of Sand." There are many more Drake songs that are so good-I'd just recommend you pick up the boxed set, _Fruit Tree_. :) I couldn't pick my favorite Nick song if I tried, but if I had a squirt gun to my head, I guess I'd go with the one that many Nick fans pick, "Northern Sky," one of the most stunningly beautiful songs ever, ever written. After you've gotten to know Nick's music, I also highly recommend the tribute album _Brittle Days_, on Imaginary Records, ILLCD 026, if you can find it, that is. It's a UK release, and I feel this album, similar to _I Wanna Be Kate_, is a tribute that drips love from every pit (since CDs don't have grooves). This tribute contains covers done in the styles of the various contributors, as opposed to trying to sound like Nick did. For the completist, I recommend the boot _Tanworth- In-Arden 1967/68_, ant 15.11, a collection of various tunes culled from work tapes, and also the albums of Scott Appel, who is considered the only person to have ever come near to duplicating the complicated Drake guitar techniques: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/8930/ Larry (alundra@netos.com) np: _Brittle Days_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:33:49 -0700 From: Irvin Lin Subject: Re: ecto-digest V5 #218 > From: Nick Nadel > Subject: Best List nick gave the headings. i dunno. must have too much time on my hands. here is what i would pick: > Best Summer Albums: KOSTARS - KLASSICS WITH A K: Luscious Jackson sideproject, fun easy going tunes to tap your feet to. SEAN LENNON - INTO THE SUN : a bit of a hit or miss album, but there are three or four stand out tracks, that make this requisite summer listening. sonically, it's like walking down the beach on a warm breezy summer night. mmmm.... > Best album to listen to at 3am on a hot summer night: SUSAN VOELZ - SUMMER CRASHING : well duh. she has a song on it called 3am. and the title of the album? well how more specific can you get? she has to be related some how to LISA GERMANO. i know she is.... PORTISHEAD - ROSELAND NYC live : i have to say, i love this album more than their studio stuff. LOW - SECRET NAME : JAMES GURLEY emailed me to let me know that he agreed with my sentimentality on this album. this is their most accessible album since their first full length. SPAIN - THE BLUE MOODS OF SPAIN : some writer for a big ole music rag wrote "i want to lick this edges of this CD when it is done" it doesn't make sense until you have heard them. RED HOUSE PAINTERS - SONGS FOR A BLUE GUITAR : well hell. this album is good any old time. of course living in SAN FRANCISCO, there is no such thing as a HOT SUMMER NIGHT. grrrr... > Best albums that evoke foreign lands: NICK picked pretty good ones (well AIR and ST. ETIENNE, i never was much interested in KATELL KEINIG). for ENGLAND : anything by BELLE AND SEBASTIAN, HOUSEMARTINS, BEAUTIFUL SOUTH, THE SMITHS for FRANCE : anything by FRANCE GALL for JAPAN : anything by TAKAO MINEKAWA or PIZZICATO FIVE for AUSTRALIA : anything by THE BATS for CANADA : JANE SIBERRY's song HOCKEY screams CANADA to me. well actually it just invokes visions of cold winter nights and snow. which is what CANADA seems like it would be to me. i have never been. :) for TAIWAN/CHINA : anything by FAYE WONG and for HIGH SCHOOL (which in my mind, is a FOREIGN LAND) i would say anything by THE CURE. ah those were the days weren't they? > Best albums for a rainy day: THE SOFTIES - Winter Pagent : beautiful simple songs to make your heart beat and break. IDA - I Know About You : meloncholy in aural form. erm. must go to sleep. it's been fun though. irvin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:38:51 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Best List On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Nick Nadel wrote: >Best Summer Albums: Frente - Marvin the Album wins hands down. But anything by The Sundays or The Killjoys comes pretty close... >Best album to listen to at 3am on a hot summer night: 10,000 Maniacs - Our Time in Eden, or perhaps Moon7X - Sunburnt? >Best albums that evoke foreign lands: The Smiths! Every chord, every word screams (or it might be more accurate to say, "moans") of England... Anything by The Smiths takes me to England immediately - which might explain why I never listen to any of their records because I hated it there. >Best albums for a rainy day: >Lisa Germano-Slide or Excerpts from a Love Circus: Both albums have a >haunting beauty to them and are made for melancholy days. Lisa Germano, yes - but I vote for Happiness or Geek the Girl... Lori Carson... Cowboy Junkies... Mazzy Star... Rose Chronicles... lots of Cds in my collection go well with rainy days. I might move to Melbourne one day, that should give me a chance to play them all to my hearts content. > > >Any other suggestions? Best albums for a rainy night - in other words, things that make Lisa Germano seem happy, balanced and well-adjusted :) And the winner is Paradise Motel, Left Over Life to Kill... - ------------------------------------------------------ 62,400 repetitions make one truth. - Aldous Huxley - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:23:33 -0700 From: Shirley Ye Subject: X, Milla, Kaplansky/Gorka, Dates What a Thursday!! I saw both X and Milla that night. =) X isn't very ecto-ish being Punk, so I'll skim over that... the entire floor was one big mosh pit, the songs rocked, and I think at times the audience was louder than the band. =) Anyway, Milla didn't come on to the stage until 11pm, so my bf surprised me when X ended at 10:30 by driving us both to Luna Park (which is a very beautiful club). He was convinced that I couldn't get in, but the lady at the door asked us if we were here to see Milla, and led us right in without asking for ID (for those of you not really reading my posts I was bitching last week about not being able to see her because Luna Park is 21+). I was absolutely ecstatic, because that entire evening I had been skulking around Mark about missing Milla, etc and the stupidity of the 21 and over law. (Also, earlier that evening when I was trying to get tickets to see Julian Lennon I found out that his show at House of Blues is also 21+. In the process of bemoaning that loss I found out that the 21+ rule for certain shows/clubs is more for club owners to make money than that they don't want to deal with the intricacies of enforcing the drinking age limit - - they want to attract a mature clientele, or rather a clientele that makes money and can spend money on drinks, so they shun the teens.) Sorry I've digressed a lot. So the lovely Milla came onto the stage. I must say that the lighting was so shitty... She had an adrogynous look about her, enforced by her Bernard Butler hair and black suit with granny collar. Don't let my word choice fool you - she still looked marvelous. The rest of the band, all male, were in black suits too. The music? It was all new to my ears. I disagree with the earlier interpretations of "grungy music" but maybe she played a different set on 6/17. I would describe her more as European... There was a lot of dissonance and the closest type of music I could think of would be Elysian Fields, Portishead, or Sneaker Pimps. I liked it, but for those of you that are huge fans of her first album "Divine Comedy" you might be disappointed because this new material doesn't showcase her vocal talents as well as that did. She mentioned how she was so glad that we weren't at her last week's show (being 6/17) because it was just really bad. As for the audience, I think a bunch of her modeling friends and Russian family were there because gawd was the audience was beautiful. I was really glad I wore my nice outfit because otherwise I would have been so ashamed! I'm digressing again, huh? Anyway, the audience was very good to her. Minimal audience noise during the songs. I was near the front and plenty annoyed by the many many photographers snipping pictures of her, but who can blame them? At the end of the show she mentioned she's going to be at Spaceland on July 16, yet another 21+ club. I'm going to try to be there nonetheless. My personal feeling is that there is little hope she will be playing her old material with these new songs because its such a big leap. At one point in the show I thought she might play "Gentleman Who Fell" because the intro was similar, but that was just very wishful hoping. She'd have to change the old songs a little to make them "fit" if you know what I mean. I guess there is _some_ hope but these sets are very short and Im sure she has a ton of fabulous new material she wants to share with everyone and that might be her priority for the moment. As far as other musical things going on for the moment... I saw Lucy Kaplansky and John Gorka last night at Great American Music Hall in SF (a dfifferent city than Luna Park and House of Blues are in which is LA). Fun fun fun but I was too tired to enjoy it because I had been on a plane and running errands with a a quasi out of town friend that day. L and J did a lot of singing together and I guess that was the last show of their "mini tour" they called it. John complimented SF on what a beautiful city and audience we were. I agree with the city part but I don't think that the audience was that attractive =P Lucy said John would get "punchy" (whatever that means) because it was the last show and he was. The funniest song was "People My Age are Gross" a little ditty about plastic surgery and faces being immersed in fat. Another song was about how his baby looks like Charles Bronson when he cries =) I was more attracted to Lucy's music but John was more entertaining as far as the show went. And now for my ectoish musical date calendar: Sleater-Kinney at Amoeba on July 1st Sleater-Kinney at Greek on July 2nd (as well as Sonic Youth, Guided by Voices, etc) Penelope Houston at Starry Plough on July 3rd Ani Difranco at Greek on July 9th Milla at Spaceland on July 16th. Sinead Lohan at Great American Music Hall on Aug 31 Sarah McLachlan is performing at some club in LA for an autistic benefit sometime in September and tickets are 75 dollars apiece. Its general admission and I don't think the club is _that_ big so you guys might want to check that out. Okay off to job hunt! PS There are some fabulous music stores on Melrose - I found out about a PJ Harvey movie called "Reeling" which is 90 mins long and am going to order it. I also got one of those huge posters they hang in music stores of PJ Harvey and its hanging on my bedroom wall right now. =D Shirley Ye Berkeley, California shye@uclink4.berkeley.edu I am not an angry girl, but it seems like I've got everyone fooled. Every time I say something they find hard to hear, they chalk it up to my anger and never to their own fear. - -Ani Difranco, Not a Pretty Girl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:16:52 EDT From: Reneecamp@aol.com Subject: big Happy ad in pulse mag! hello everybody!! just a quick note to say that.... I work at tower records and in the new pulse mag. there is a 1/4th page add for MWABT and it has a kick ass quote from John Deliberto (spelling?) if you can... go get a copy, there free at tower records,books and video!!!!! ~renee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:57:16 PDT From: Nick Nadel Subject: Dido! Dido's No angel....anyone have it? let's discuss. i tink she'll be the new big singer-songwriter. very well-produced album, she was in the trip-hop group Faithless and memebers show up on the album. her voice is alot like sarah mclachlan, with more trip-hop elements. great lyrics, catchy songs. single is "here with me", getting some airplay. she's gotten alot of press cause her album is good and she kind of looks like jewel. everyone who likes Sarah, Beth Orton or other females with ethereal voices and trip-hopppy music should check it out. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:37:29 -0400 From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: Dido! Nick Nadel wrote: > Dido's No angel....anyone have it? let's discuss. i tink she'll be the new > big singer-songwriter. very well-produced album, she was in the trip-hop > group Faithless and memebers show up on the album. her voice is alot like > sarah mclachlan, with more trip-hop elements. great lyrics, catchy songs. > single is "here with me", getting some airplay. she's gotten alot of press > cause her album is good and she kind of looks like jewel. everyone who likes > Sarah, Beth Orton or other females with ethereal voices and trip-hopppy > music should check it out. I just picked up Dido's CD this weekend, based on hearing "Here With Me." It is surprisingly good. Basically, it sounds like Sarah McLachlan singing Beth Orton's material. The first part of the album is very strong, while the latter is not as instantly appealing. But the excellent bonus track at the end, "Take My Hand," makes up for that. It's a very impressive debut. Stuart np: Surrender - The Chemical Brothers nr: Crime & Punishment - Fyodor Dostoevsky - -- ______________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:41:01 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Dido! At 5:37 PM -0400 6/28/99, Stuart Myerburg wrote: >Nick Nadel wrote: > >> Dido's No angel....anyone have it? let's discuss. i tink she'll be the new >> big singer-songwriter. very well-produced album, she was in the trip-hop >> group Faithless and memebers show up on the album. her voice is alot like >> sarah mclachlan, with more trip-hop elements. great lyrics, catchy songs. >> single is "here with me", getting some airplay. she's gotten alot of press >> cause her album is good and she kind of looks like jewel. everyone who likes >> Sarah, Beth Orton or other females with ethereal voices and trip-hopppy >> music should check it out. > >I just picked up Dido's CD this weekend, based on hearing "Here With >Me." It is surprisingly good. Basically, it sounds like Sarah >McLachlan singing Beth Orton's material. The first part of the >album is very strong, while the latter is not as instantly >appealing. But the excellent bonus track at the end, "Take My >Hand," makes up for that. It's a very impressive debut. So do you consider the single part of the strong part of the album or the not instantly appealing part? I ask because I've heard the single twice and both times couldn't be bothered to listen to the end of it. Seemed very much the same old same old to me, way more mainstream-pop influenced than trip-hoppy. Is the rest of the album better or should I give up on it interesting me now? Bear in mind that I find Beth Orton up and down for me (like many songs, find others uninteresting) and have only listened to _Surfacing_ about 3 times, each time to see if I thought I'd ever get interested in playing it again, and I'm not bothering to buy _Mirrorball_. Zzzzzz. - --Neile n.p. Tamara Williamson, _Nightmare on Queen Street_ n.r. Turkey [a guide book--we leave tomorrow am] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:09:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Cheri Villines Subject: trip to Chicago Hey all :), I am going to be in Chicago from Wednesday, June 30th until Monday June 5th. Are there any ectoish music events going on that I shouldn't miss? Also, any suggestions for good new and/or used cd stores? thanks! Cheri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:42:23 -0400 From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: Dido! Neile Graham wrote: > So do you consider the single part of the strong part of the album or the > not instantly appealing part? I ask because I've heard the single twice > and both times couldn't be bothered to listen to the end of it. Seemed > very much the same old same old to me, way more mainstream-pop influenced > than trip-hoppy. The single is in the strong part of the album for me. I actually didn't really like the single the first couple of times I heard it. I thought it was just another in a long line of wannabe trip-hoppers. But it's grown on me a lot and that's why I bought the album. Dido's album IS very pop in comparison to, say, Portishead or Lamb or even Morcheeba, though. But it's good pop. :-) > Bear in mind that I find Beth Orton up and down for me (like many songs, > find others uninteresting) and have only listened to _Surfacing_ about 3 > times, each time to see if I thought I'd ever get interested in playing > it again, and I'm not bothering to buy _Mirrorball_. Zzzzzz. I'm in total agreement with all of this. While I love most of Beth Orton's material, some of it does absolutely nothing for me. And, as for Sarah, who would have thought after the brilliance of _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_ and the accompanying tour (one of the best concert experiences I've ever had), that she would come out with the hugely disappointing _Surfacing_? I never listen to that CD and as a result have no interest in _Mirrorball_. *sigh* Maybe the next studio album will be better... Stuart np: What Are You Going to Do with Your Life? - Echo & the Bunnymen - -- ______________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:52:41 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Dido! On Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 07:42:23PM -0400, Stuart Myerburg wrote: > And, as for Sarah, who would have thought after the brilliance of > _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_ and the accompanying tour (one of the > best concert experiences I've ever had), that she would come out > with the hugely disappointing _Surfacing_? I never listen to that > CD and as a result have no interest in _Mirrorball_. *sigh* Maybe > the next studio album will be better... If you get a chance to try of Mirrorball at a listening station or something, skip forward to "Fear" and give it a shot. While it's mighty... er... polite for the first half of the show, it kicks in there and works. Even some of the newer material is pretty good. n.p. Halana #4 CD: (currently, Motoharu Yoshizawa, solo bass. Yow!) n.r. Halana magazine #4. - -- | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/~jzitt | | Latest Solo CD: Gentle Entropy http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:51:59 -0400 From: Michael Curry Subject: Susan McKeown and Kila at the Towne Crier Hi all, Last night I, along Meredith, woj, John and Paul, went to see Susan and Kila at the Towne Crier in Pawling, NY. Here are a few of my own opinions on the show. Despite the fact that Susan was the main act she went on first, which I gather was mainly for reasons of logistics (Kila is seven member band with lots of equipment). The incarnation of the Chanting House that she had with her included John Spurney on guitars and two new members of the Chanting House rotation, Jeff Allen on electric and double bass and Catherine... umm... I've forgotten her last name on cello. Both of the newcomers did a great job, though of course, as always, I missed Lindsay's presence. The set list was: Ballinaboula Fuck You The Chariot In London So Fair Who Knows Where The Time Goes I Know Seven Cold Glories River Wheels Of The World Albatross Son Of A Preacher Man Snakes ----- Calves (aka Seoladh na nGamhna) As always, it was an excellent performance. I was especially happy that Wheels made it into the set, though I did have to deal with Lindsay's missing tin whistle line playing in my head through the song. I hope at some point someone else in the band can be persuaded to learn the whistle... and maybe the bass clarinet too. *grin* This is the third time I've gotten to hear Susan sing "Son of a Preacher Man" and I think I love more each time. Her voice fits the song perfectly. I've been lucky enough to have seen Susan perform live many, many times and it amazes me that I still enjoy every show so much. Susan's next stop is at the The Swannanoa Gathering - Celtic Week (see http://www.swangathering.org/ ) where she'll be teaching a couple of classes! It's a bit late to be registering at this point, but who knows... if it goes well maybe Susan will be doing this sort of thing more often. After that it's time for Susan usual summer break from touring so she can spend some time recording. The first thing up is going to be another traditional album, which I'm really looking forward to. I suppose I should comment on the night's other act as well. I know for a fact that these opinions aren't shared by those I was there with, but I'm sure they'll share their own impressions eventually. Kila was described in my local paper with the phrase "the Chieftains meet Rusted Root," and after seeing them for the first time I think that's a fairly apt description in general terms (though failing miserably in some specifics). They play this sort of melding of some elements of Irish traditional music with a sort of tribal, neo-hippie vibe. The most obvious reflection of this tribal bent was the use of lots (and lots) of percussion instruments in some songs. As for the singing... well, there was one man who sang in a rather unimpressive voice but a sort of traditional style for some songs, while the other did this sort of dub/rap thing in Irish for other songs. I didn't really like them much at all. They had a lot of energy, but there was simply too much going on at once and all the various instruments just sort of got crunched into an amorphous blob of sound punctuated by whatever combination of bodran, dumbek and other percussion happened to be involved. I hear Green Linnet's marketing is calling them "the future of Celtic music" (whatever that means), and my only response to that is a derisive snort. Mike np: Kristeen Young -- Enemy nr: nothing, I'm between books atm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:48:32 +0200 From: "Marcel Rijs" Subject: Betreft: ecto-digest V5 #216 Dear all, I agree with the title "Ectopia" for the compilation disc, and "Ectonic" for the beverage which I hope will be invented by us soon and distributed by the Coca Cola Company... :) A short comment about OneList.com: I'm subscribed to a couple of lists there and I even run one or two, and I must say that while they add two lines of advertising to every message, I've never encountered anything that would suggest they sell their addresses to spammers. In this highly commercial world, I think onelist.com is actually a very good service! However, a carbon copy of ecto isn't really necessary, so I won't subscribe to serenading-genius anytime soon.... Kind regards, Marcel Rijs marcel.rijs@konbib.nl (work) mfgr@casema.net (private) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:03:40 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Help sponser Penelope & Loners Of America in the Aidswalk Penelope Houston news (and a cause) for those interested. - --Neile >Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:27:37 -0700 >From: Phuzz >Reply-To: phous@earthlink.net >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: penelope >Subject: Help sponser Penelope & Loners Of America in the Aidswalk >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > >Dear Friends and Fans, > We don't just rock, we walk!!!!! >My bandmates from the Loners Of America, Katharine Chase and Dawn >Richardson, and I are going to walk the AIDSWALK in San Francisco to >raise funds for Aids services, education, and prevention. The annual ten >kilometer walkathon is held on July 18th 1999 and will be attended by >over 30,000 people. We're joining our friends on Team #69. > >And YOU could be one of our sponsers! >All you have to do is make out a check for any amount, to "AIDSWALK," >and send it to: >The Loners Of America >c/o Katharine Chase >915 Cole Box #308 >San Francisco, CA 94117 > >Send it before July 15th. Or bring it to our show at the >STARRY PLOUGH this Sat. July 3rd! >Or any of our east coast shows. > >For more information about the Aidswalk, or to register yourself, go to: >www.aidswalk.net > >Thanks for helping us support a worthy cause. >Penelope, Katharine, and Dawn > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:05:55 -0400 From: meredith Subject: ecto compilation title Hi! woj came up with this one -- but he's several years behind in his ecto reading so I figured I better post it. :) "ectones" Or, alternatively (and this scored a bit better in weekend polling): "ectunes" :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:18:40 -0400 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: Ecto comp; Tori tour I've done a quickie review of the mail over the weekend and it looks like if there's a consensus to be found its "Ectopia". I like that one too. I'll get to work on that cover change straightaway. Just received an update from Saratoga Performing Arts Center (coincidentally, where I was all weekend, sweating) announcing their final summer concert date to be Tori Amos on Aug 29th with a "co-headliner to be named later". Did a quick web search and found http://www.800tixx.com/Tori-Amos.html lists a fairly extensive late summer early fall tour. News to me. Anyway, the SPAC show interests me because being a member I can get tickets slightly in advance of the general public. Unfortunately its almost 3 hours drive and hotels are usurious in Saratoga in August. Gotta do some quick thinking on this one. General availability of these tix at SPAC is July 10 (its not on the 800tixx list yet, but other shows are). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:29:55 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Ecto comp; Tori tour Hi! Fog returned: >I've done a quickie review of the mail over the weekend and it looks like if >there's a consensus to be found its "Ectopia". I like that one too. I'll get >to work on that cover change straightaway. Guess woj was too late. :) I like "ectopia" too -- should I go ahead and update the web notice? >Just received an update from Saratoga Performing Arts Center >(coincidentally, where I was all weekend, sweating) announcing their final >summer concert date to be Tori Amos on Aug 29th with a "co-headliner to be >named later". Did a quick web search and found >http://www.800tixx.com/Tori-Amos.html lists a fairly extensive late summer >early fall tour. News to me. Wow. We've talked about it here, haven't we? The "co-headliner to be named later" is Alanis Morrisette. Alanis is on the bill at Woodstock '99, and since Saratoga is so close by and the show so soon after there are contractual things which mean that she can't be publicized as being on the bill until not long before the actual event. It's all extremely silly, since the official tour web site is www.tori-and-alanis.com and all the info at ticketslime.com trumpets her name to the skies. They're also playing at Jones Beach on my birthday. Our seats suck, but we'll be there. :) >Anyway, the SPAC show interests me because >being a member I can get tickets slightly in advance of the general public. >Unfortunately its almost 3 hours drive and hotels are usurious in Saratoga >in August. Gotta do some quick thinking on this one. General availability of >these tix at SPAC is July 10 (its not on the 800tixx list yet, but other >shows are). I'm not sure if SPAC was included, but ticketslime.com had tickets to the entire announced tour on sale starting over a month ago. If SPAC was included, then be advised that most of the seats have probably already been sold online. Anybody else going to the Jones Beach show? I've never been there before ... I'm a little worried. Plus, I have no desire whatsoever to see Alanis, though hopefully Tori will be on first. But it's Tori, and I know from experience that seeing Tori play on my birthday is definitely a good thing, so hey. I can deal. :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:29:35 -0400 From: Mark Miazga Subject: Re: Ecto comp; Tori tour > Anybody else going to the Jones Beach show? I've never been there before > ... I'm a little worried. Plus, I have no desire whatsoever to see Alanis, > though hopefully Tori will be on first. But it's Tori, and I know from > experience that seeing Tori play on my birthday is definitely a good thing, > so hey. I can deal. :) Meredith, Please give Alanis a shot. Even if you've never liked her stuff, she's a phenomenol live performer and is worth just the price just to see her "dance"! Mark, who thinks the Alanis/Tori tour will be one of the greatest tours of my lifetime. Now, only if I could afford tickets... np: on random -- Magdalen Hsu-Li "Evolution" Patty Griffin "Living With Ghosts" Freedy Johnston "This Perfect World" Chris Whitley "Terra Icnogito" Sinead O'Connor "The Lion & The Cobra" nr: Hemingway's The Sun Also rises - -- Mark Miazga e-mail: miazgama@pilot.msu.edu 302 Mason Hall, MSU East Lansing, MI 48825 (517) 355-2080 http://www.msu.edu/~miazgama Voicemail: (517) 355-9380 Check out my picks for the best of 1998 on my homepage! Program Coordinator of The Common Grounds Coffeehouse. Cheap Concerts every Thursday and Friday night in the basement of Akers Hall on the MSU campus. Schedule, booking, and mailing list info at: http://www.msu.edu/~cgrounds "I don't sleep, I drink coffee instead; trying to burn a hole through my aching head." -- Brenda Kahn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:56:38 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Susan McKeown and Kila at the Towne Crier Hi! Gotta follow up on this one: Mike reviewed: > The incarnation of the Chanting House that she had with her >included John Spurney on guitars and two new members of the >Chanting House rotation, Jeff Allen on electric and double bass >and Catherine... umm... I've forgotten her last name on cello. Bent. Catherine Bent. She's a friend of Michelle Kinney's, and when she gets more familiar with the material I daresay she's going to be just as good. :) She's different, but still damn good. >Both of the newcomers did a great job, though of course, as always, >I missed Lindsay's presence. I did too -- no one could hope to completely replace Lindsey -- but Jeff's use of the electric bass on some songs was interesting, and worked for me. Heck - when Chris Cunningham left I was in mourning, until John Spurney joined the band. (Chris who? ;) I'm sure I'll get used to this new incarnation just as quickly. > As always, it was an excellent performance. I was especially happy >that Wheels made it into the set, though I did have to deal with >Lindsay's missing tin whistle line playing in my head through the song. Me too! I think what Catherine did with the cello line was *really* cool, though. She somehow managed to make the song even MORE foreboding. >This is the >third time I've gotten to hear Susan sing "Son of a Preacher Man" and >I think I love more each time. Her voice fits the song perfectly. Not to mention, it's hilarious watching John twist his face up singing the backing vocal. :) > I suppose I should comment on the night's other act as well. I >know for a fact that these opinions aren't shared by those I was there >with, but I'm sure they'll share their own impressions eventually. Here I am! :) I (and woj too) don't share Mike's assessment of Kila. I hadn't heard a note of their music before last night, and I'd heard a few descriptions of them, but I went in with an open mind, and no predispositions to hate them just because they're trying to do something new and different with Celtic music. >They play this sort of melding of some elements of Irish traditional music with a sort of tribal, neo-hippie >vibe. It works a lot better in practice than written out like that. :) The instrumentation in the band ranges from what you'd expect (uillean pipes, bodhran, whistles, fiddle, guitar) to the distinctly non-traditional (fretless bass, dumbek, mandolin, balailaika, drum set, saxophone). Everyone in the band is a multi-instrumentalist, including various forms of percussion. All the percussion is where the "tribal" adjective has come to describe Kila. Mixed in with the Celtic elements, it made for some very effective and infectious stuff. >As for the singing... well, there was one man who sang in a rather unimpressive >voice but a sort of traditional style for some songs, while the other >did this sort of dub/rap thing in Irish for other songs. I have to agree with you on the vocals. I could definitely have done without any of them singing. :) The main vocalist (the "dub/rap" guy) especially -- though the songs he sang were the ones that had the most African/tribal elements in them. I never would've known he was singing in Gaelic - the way he sang, and the way the backing vocals came in, was much more Ladysmith Black Mambazo than anything out of Eire. Once I got used to that I actually started to enjoy those tunes, but I much preferred the instrumentals when all was said and done. > I didn't really like them much at all. They had a lot of energy, >but there was simply too much going on at once and all the various >instruments just sort of got crunched into an amorphous blob of sound >punctuated by whatever combination of bodran, dumbek and other percussion >happened to be involved. The speaker on our side of the stage *was* freaking out for most of their set, but I was able to hear everything with really nice separation. When a frenetic band (like Lunasa, for example) really gets going, they produce more of an "amorphous wall of sound" than Kila did. Not that there's anything wrong with walls of sound. :) >I hear Green Linnet's marketing is calling >them "the future of Celtic music" (whatever that means), and my only >response to that is a derisive snort. I'd hesitate to call them "the future of Celtic music". If anything I'd say that they are the closest thing to "world music" I've ever heard, in that they are a true fusion of musical cultures which otherwise wouldn't naturally have met, and which happen to work together really well. If I weren't such a zombie today from a weekend of absolutely no sleep punctuated by a 2 am night last night, I would've tried to see them at Arlene Grocery tonight as well. Just my take on the situation. :) If you're a trad purist like Mike, you're probably going to want to run screaming from the room -- but if you're interested in exploring new territory from much-trod older ground, for sure check them out. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #219 **************************