From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #173 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, May 16 1999 Volume 05 : Number 173 Today's Subjects: ----------------- i'll take Beth'rashith elohim & aethereal girls for $400 [the bad kind of] Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK [Zoetro] Re: beth orton on letterman [Songbird22@aol.com] Re: i'll take Beth'rashith elohim & aethereal girls for $400 [Joseph Zitt] Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK [Joseph] Beth Orton Tour Dates ["Drew Harrington" ] the new lamb cd [meredith ] Re: the new lamb cd [Neile Graham ] Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK [Mark L] Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK [Zoetro] books/amy tan [Suzanne Cerquone ] Neile's April Obsessions [Neile Graham ] SIBERRY Pipeline 12 =?iso-8859-1?Q?=83?= SHEEBA's Third Birthday on Monday. [joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whets] Re: Lamb - Fear of Fours [Andrew Fries ] Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK [Joseph] Shoutout for comments on Erin McKeown for Ectophiles guide entry [Kay S C] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:28:09 -0400 From: the bad kind of puppy Subject: i'll take Beth'rashith elohim & aethereal girls for $400 so i did watch, too, Beth on letterman, and it seemed, too, to me that she was ready to cry or scream or something. i've never seen her live and oh! was i upset by that oh yes when she was playing at Lilith here and suddenly then was not, i had a marker and everything for her to sign my arm and a notary public in tow to make it legal even. but she doesn't seem to me a voice of the studio only, an 18-take wonder, she seems to me to have a voice of wow! and i think in person she will too. hopefully this is not only my thinking wishful talking. another voice of wow! again is Sarah Brightman in _eden_, which i was not so sure about because i hardly have played _time_to_say_goodbye_ at all all all and i'm not sure even that i bought _eden_ but well it was there anyway on my desk somehow so i have played it. (the reader at this point is wholly heartened to envisualize the Depths of Stuff which lie about the author's life. go wild, let slip the reins of imagination and let fall the lash, no danger is there of you getting even close to the Awful Truth.) but Sarah, Sarah, Sarahs, remember "Dear God"? do you, when Sarah let slip the reins of *her* voice and we were laid waste, left quaking in the ruins? and having glimpsed and having survived that Angel of near-Death-experience you might never feel safe again, might never forget that the honey'd Voice, so warm and sweet, might open once again and devour you whole. dear god it's full of stars, and life is like that, we stand each alone at the edge but looking away from it to the safety of the middle. Sarah, i mean Brightman this time but it's true for both, can do this thing where you think she's just singing and la la la merrily along and suddenly her Voice opens and she turns you to face the edge and you're left there a brief eternity standing alone in the terror of the infinite and time stops or just is not there at all and then you're back facing the middle again, safe and warm and asleep. but once you've been awake it's not so easy to go back to sleep and you know that she's just singing la la la merrily along but you know too that sometime when you're just about to go back to sleep that Voice will turn you back to the edge and leave you staring down the infinite. and maybe this time, she'll push you in. ... but veronica, i hear you say, did you *like* it? and you know better i think by now than to ask *me* that sort of thing. >> >Lynn Canfield and Hot Tub Party >> >Tuesday, June 22 8-10pm at BORDERS in Kensington, MD (Washington DC, > >To further confuse things, while maps say that it's in Rockville, >residents call the area North Bethesda. Whatever -- it's in the White >Flint Mall, a short walk or shuttle ride from the Red line Metro Stop >of the same name. this Borders is affectiontely known as the Goth Borders and you may see why if you go. i think, and i used to live a mossy stone rolling downhill's spit from there, that it is kensington, unless the line for rockville has crept a bit as waistlines do, but kensington is icky-poo to some and rockville not chic enough i guess so white flint has vanitymandered itself into North Bethesda which is not a real place at all! which maybe means i meant fantasymandered then? but anyone who has put my old nicknametag of ethereal girl to any kind of song especially *that* song might just be worth a trip out, a fresh black marker, and a call to my notary public. your servant in silence, -veronica ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:16:22 -0400 From: Zoetrope Subject: Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK jeffrey c. burka kindly corrected: >It's not a typo, it *is* a cover of the Springsteen tune, and yes, it really is "Joad," not "Jones." thanks, jeff! I've never seen it in type before. Springsteen is one of those singers who often sounds like he has a code id his dose. >> wow.. >> I think this sounds like an awesome little live pop collection. >sounds a little too cruncy for me (I really detest RATM, for instance) love 'em and many other even crunchier things (some threaten to break teeth). I find the consistency balances out the sweet and active yogurt (which I also love) of much ectofare. ~!@L. np: Quiet as the Moon, Dave Brubeck (and snoopydancing in my deskchair .. it's way too early.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:27:24 EDT From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Re: beth orton on letterman meth@smoe.org writes: > Does anyone know if she's going to be touring in the U.S. anytime? I've > been trying to find tour dates for her, but haven't had any luck. Yup, she is. Not only is she doing a few Lilith dates, but I know she'll be in NYC on June (or was that July...) 3rd. :) Yay. - -jessica http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:49:58 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: i'll take Beth'rashith elohim & aethereal girls for $400 On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 02:28:09AM -0400, the bad kind of puppy wrote: > this Borders is affectiontely known as the Goth Borders and you may > see why if you go. i think, and i used to live a mossy stone rolling > downhill's spit from there, that it is kensington, unless the line > for rockville has crept a bit as waistlines do, but kensington > is icky-poo to some and rockville not chic enough i guess so white > flint has vanitymandered itself into North Bethesda which is not a > real place at all! which maybe means i meant fantasymandered then? Actually, I'm there a lot -- of the Borders' in the area that I've been to, it's my favorite. Good music selection, and the best of the coffee bars. Dunno how it's that Goth, though, but I may just be spending too much time in the classical and Jewish music sections. Bethesda creep seems to be a widespread phenomenon -- the fairly small city of Princeton seems to have oozed to the extent that much of New Jersey claims to be part of it or near it :-) (And now to continue cross-checking the rest of that meeting against Finnegan's Wake :-]) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:59:39 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:16:22AM -0400, Zoetrope wrote: > jeffrey c. burka kindly corrected: > > >It's not a typo, it *is* a cover of the Springsteen tune, and yes, it > really is "Joad," not "Jones." > > thanks, jeff! I've never seen it in type before. Springsteen is one of > those singers who often sounds like he has a code id his dose. BTW, to get the background of the song, check out John Steinbeck's novel (or the excellent movie) "The Grapes of Wrath". (You probably knew that, but some may not..) The alternate spelling gives me the image of an old house where the howling winds play "It's Not Unusual". n.p. La Monte Young: The Second Dream of the High-Tension Stepdown Transformer from The Four Dreams of China (and that's the *short* version of the title!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:52:29 -0700 From: "Drew Harrington" Subject: Beth Orton Tour Dates In response to Beth Orton tour date inquiry: At least some of these are Lilith Dates. (Maybe all?) I thought Beth was pretty enjoyable live the few times I've seen her. 05/29/99 Baltimore MD WHFS Radio Show 05/31/99 Toronto ON Opera House 06/02/99 Washington DC 9:30 Club 06/03/99 New York NY Roseland 06/04/99 Philadelphia PA Theatre Of Living Arts 06/06/99 Carrboro NC Cat's Cradle 06/07/99 Atlanta GA Cotton Club 06/09/99 Cincinnati OH Bogart's 06/11/99 Cleveland OH Odeon Concert Club 06/12/99 Chicago IL Chicago Motor Speedway 06/13/99 Minneapolis MN Quest Club 06/15/99 Detroit MI St. Andrews Hall 06/16/99 Pittsburgh PA Rosebud 06/18/99 Northampton MA Pearl Street 06/19/99 Boston MA Suffolk Downs 07/08/99 Vancouver BC Thunderbird Stadium 07/09/99 George WA Gorge 07/10/99 George WA Gorge 07/11/99 Portland OR Portland Civic Stadium 07/13/99 Mountain View CA Shoreline Amphitheatre 07/14/99 Mountain View CA Shoreline Amphitheatre 07/16/99 Chula Vista CA Coors Amphitheatre 07/17/99 Pasadena CA Rose Bowl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:53:46 -0400 From: meredith Subject: the new lamb cd Hi! A&B Sound has the new Lamb CD for predictably low prices (approx. US$11). I just ordered it from them, as well as Oh Susanna's _Johnstown_, Mary Jane Lamond's new one, and both of Ford Pier's albums (having seen Ford perform live with Veda Hille, I'm kind of nervous about these, but I figure woj will like them if nothing else ;). Has anyone heard of the following: >Darcie Deaville, Tornado in Slow Mo >Shiela Noonan, Radio Sweethearts >Tanya Savory, Town to Town I'll be getting review copies of them soon and I'm just wondering if anyone has any background info. Thanks! +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:34:23 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: the new lamb cd meredith wrote: >A&B Sound has the new Lamb CD for predictably low prices (approx. US$11). >I just ordered it from them, I ordered it from them yesterday. >as well as Oh Susanna's _Johnstown_, Mary Jane >Lamond's new one, You got me all excited here--I thought she had a new cd, but not according to A&B's website. Just the two previous ones, _Bho Thir Nan Croabh_ and _Suas e!_. Or am I missing something?? - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:30:42 -0500 From: Mark Lowry Subject: Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK Joseph Zitt wrote: > The alternate spelling gives me the image of an old house where the > howling winds play "It's Not Unusual". I was thinking it. Glad you're the one who said it. Mark np Beth Orton _Central Reservation_ (I *finally* picked this up today and am on my second listen. Ecto hype is never a let down) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:04:03 -0400 From: Zoetrope Subject: Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK Joseph Zitt wrote: > The alternate spelling gives me the image of an old house where the > howling winds play "It's Not Unusual". ROFL. The shutters banging in time. now I feel like a functional illiterate who digs a bad haircut and tight pants. ; ) (I actually attended a Tom Jones concert many, many years ago with my mother, the fan. Gotta give it up for somebody so unabashedly, overwhelmingly vegas-y. It's an evening.) I should know better than to nitpick musical trivia mentioned by woj. Of Steinbeck, I've only ever read _Of Mice and Men_, his retelling of Mallory in _The Acts of King Arthur and His Noble Knights_, and seen the movie "Cannery Row". He's on the "Things to read" list... the damned, long list... >n.p. La Monte Young: The Second Dream of the High-Tension Stepdown >Transformer from The Four Dreams of China (and that's the *short* >version of the title!) beautiful! was this title originally in english, or is it a translation? what's the cd like? ~!@L. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:34:22 -0500 From: Suzanne Cerquone Subject: books/amy tan I pretty much missed the recent book thread due to a hectic life, but is there anyone out there who knows if Amy Tan is working on a new novel? She's one of my fave authors, but it's been awhile. Thanks! - --Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:41:49 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Neile's April Obsessions Hi, all. Here are my April listening obsessions: Underwater, _you could lose_ A new electronic-fusion-sampling next-step-from-Cocteau-Twins album from an Atlanta group which has members of a group previously mentioned on ecto, Rosewater Elizabeth. I like this quite a bit, especially their use of a sample from Sixteen Horsepower on one song. Love the vocals. Yungchen Lhamo, _Coming Home_ Thanks to ecto for mentioning her--I'd never heard of her before the recent discussion of Asian music on ecto. I think I can pick out bits of my favourite guitarist, Henry Frayne of Lanterna, The Moon Seven Times, and Area). In and of itself while I enjoy this album a lot I don't find it diving into my disc plaers as some other discs do. Beth Orton, _Central Reservation_ Well, I'm not as enamoured of this as other people on ecto seem to be. I like it, but as I'm not a big contemporary folk fan, the songs that fall into that sound don't register much on my radar. I do like the single a lot and like the album okay, but I'm just not in love with this. Like _Trailer Park_ it's really up and down for me. Snakefarm _Songs From my Funeral_ Delighted to hear Anna Domino on a project that shows a different side of her vocal talents. These electronic versions of old standards is great fun and a truly enjoyable listen. I'm sure my dad would hate their version of "St James Infirmary" though. I'll have to test it on him. Hah! Garmarna, _Vengeance_ A knock-out wow conjunction of traditional Swedish folk and contemporary music. Their best and most unforgettable effort yet. It's really wonderful. An April March, _...something once true, is always true..._ [ep] Apparent this is the last we'll be hearing from An April March as their sound is shifting and any further releases will be coming out under another name. I can't say I'm too sad, as while I've liked their releases there have only ever been occasional songs that were able to stick in my mind--mostly just a haze of pleasant, dreamy electronic pop. halou, _[we only love you]_ This is definitely more electronic & lively than most bands on their label, Bedazzled (home of An April March, Siddal, etc). Catchy stuff, along the new wave of electronica lines. three sheets to the wind, _grace under pressure_ folk/trad/pop a cappella songs (well, there is some accompaniment on songs songs) by Jane Siberry's backup singer & former member of Fat Man Waving, Rebecca Campbell and two other women. I find Rebecca's contributions by far the strongest, and she writes a few of the songs here. Not something I'll play often, but I do like most of this quite a lot. So my favourites of this month's acquisitions are definitely the Garmarna, Halou, Underwater, and Snakefarm. Older discs I kept playing and loved more and more: Thea Gilmore's _Burning Dorothy_, Bloem de Ligny's _Zink_, David Usher's _Little Songs_. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:54:09 -0400 (EDT) From: joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell) Subject: SIBERRY Pipeline 12 =?iso-8859-1?Q?=83?= SHEEBA's Third Birthday on Monday. Thought some of you would be interested. :) >Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:27:26 -0400 (EDT) >From: S H E E B A >Subject: SIBERRY Pipeline 12 ƒ SHEEBA's Third Birthday on > Monday. >X-Sender: sheeba@mail.interlog.com >To: sib@sheeba.ca >MIME-version: 1.0 > >The SHEEBA website will officially re-open on SHEEBA's third birthday, >Monday, May 17. > >I would love you to drop by the SHEEBA Hotel de la Vie on Monday. See the >changes. (It is still a work-in-progress. But ready to re-open.) Sign the >birthday book. Please go to the Front Desk first for your name tag. Or to >tell them that you NEVER wear name tags. Whatever you like. The guest is >God. So to speak. > >I will also be announcing the release plans, as far as I can know, >for'TREE' and 'LIPS' from the New York Trilogy recordings. > >Hospitality will be as real as electrons allow. > >Best wishes, >Jane Siberry > >http://www.sheeba.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:01:56 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Lamb - Fear of Fours In a message "Re: Lamb - Fear of Fours" on 14/May/1999 05:52:20 John Drummond says: > Okay, wait, it's already released in Australia? NO > FAIR... we poor Americans haven't gotten the damn > thing yet! He he. I didn't even know it wasn't released in the States, but I'm glad. You get the taste of what I go through as a matter of routine whenever I read posts from your side of the world :) Actually Australia is getting a bit better in this respect, for example Cranberries latest was released a couple of weeks before it was available in the States. Strangest of all, Ani's UpUp... was in stores here before it hit the shelves in some parts of the States... go figure. On the other hand, our JJJ only recently discovered Liz Phair's Whitespacewhateverthetitleis. It's really annoying to hear them go on about "the new Liz Phair"! - ------------------------------------------------------ "If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed... Oh wait, he does!" (signature spotted on Slashdot) - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 02:45:57 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 07:04:03PM -0400, Zoetrope wrote: > >n.p. La Monte Young: The Second Dream of the High-Tension Stepdown > >Transformer from The Four Dreams of China (and that's the *short* > >version of the title!) > > beautiful! was this title originally in english, or is it a > translation? what's the cd like? Yup, originally in English. Young is an American composer, one of the original minimalists (long before Glass and Reich). The most direct influence of his was on the Velvet Underground, as John Cale played in his Theatre of Eternal Music before forming the band. The music sounds like... mmm... laser clouds. There are eight trumpeters, playing long tones on any of four pitches. Each chooses pitches based on which others are being heard at the time. There are a lot of silences in between. I love it, but it drives some people nuts. Try it if you like Eno (whose first public performance was of a Young piece), Jim O'Rourke, or very steady-state Indian music. n.p. One Dove: Morning Dove White ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:25:36 -0500 From: Kay S Cleaves Subject: Shoutout for comments on Erin McKeown for Ectophiles guide entry Hey folks-- I'm doing an entry for the Ectoguide on Erin McKeown, my former schoolmate. I have some comments on her work from Neile's neverending database of stuff, but was looking for more opinions, info, etc. If anyone has heard her music, seen her play, etc., please feel free to email me comments or post them. Thanks! - --Kay ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #173 **************************