From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #172 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, May 15 1999 Volume 05 : Number 172 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Lamb - Fear of Fours ["Tim Finney" ] Re: beautiful songs [dave ] Re: Lamb - Fear of Fours [John Drummond ] Re: Lamb - Fear of Fours [Stuart Myerburg ] online chat with jenny toomey today ["jeffrey c. burka" ] kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK [Zoetrope <] Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK ["jeffr] PixelToy (was:Lamb - Fear of Fours) [Brian Bloom ] Re: beautiful songs [meredith ] homicide was cancelled [Paul Kim ] beth orton on letterman [meredith ] RIAA vs MP3s [Michael Curry ] lynn canfield tour dates! [four episode lesbian ] Re: Moving the CD Store Directory to smoe [meredith ] Re: beth orton on letterman [Paul Kim ] Re: beth orton on letterman [joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell)] Re: lynn canfield tour dates! [Joseph Zitt ] Re: beth orton on letterman [Cathy Sandifer ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:40:54 +1000 From: "Tim Finney" Subject: Re: Lamb - Fear of Fours - ---------- >From: Andrew Fries >To: ecto@smoe.org >Subject: Lamb - Fear of Fours >Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:53 AM > > I seem to be going through an electronic phase; first Pavo Cristatus, now > this... Fans of Portishead, Lida Husik and Happy's MWABT - pay attention to > this one! Yes indeed, "Fear Of Fours" is an excellent release. I'd say that nothing *quite* stands out like "Gorecki", but overall its more well-rounded and consistently pleasing. Especially (early favourites) "B-Line", "Bonfire", "Softly", "Fly", "Lullabye" and the eight-minute onslaught of "Ear Parcel". From your message Andrew I take it you haven't got their first, self-titled album. RUN and get it, it's equally as brilliant, and "Gorecki" is one of my favourite songs ever. Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:10:29 -0400 From: dave Subject: Re: beautiful songs Nick wrote: > Hey, I'm making a mix of beautiful songs for a friend. Any > suggestions? Absolutely should include "Angel" by Grey Eye Glances, off the Eventide CD if you can. Bill added: > n.p. Lauren Hart, "Painted Bride" Ah.. someone else got this one.. not bad at all, love "All I Remember". And then there's "Clarke shoots... he SCORES!!!".. oh.. wait.. that was her dad.. nevermind.. ;) n.p. Jennifer Knapp - Kansas (this girls gonna turn some heads at Lilith) - -- +-----------------------------------------------+ + dave + + Visit Sideshow Bob's House of Wax and Waffles + + Female vocalists, Christian, and Polish music + + -=-=- and the fabulous Kasia Kowalska -=-=- + + http://magpage.com/~sspan/ + +-----------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 05:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: John Drummond Subject: Re: Lamb - Fear of Fours Okay, wait, it's already released in Australia? NO FAIR... we poor Americans haven't gotten the damn thing yet! Neile and I are DYING over here in the continental 48 (though on opposite sides of it, I'll grant), AND WE MUST HAVE IT SOON YOU RECORD INDUSTRY BASTARDS! *sob sob sob* ;D John - --- Tim Finney wrote: > > > ---------- > >From: Andrew Fries > >To: ecto@smoe.org > >Subject: Lamb - Fear of Fours > >Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:53 AM > > > > > I seem to be going through an electronic phase; > first Pavo Cristatus, now > > this... Fans of Portishead, Lida Husik and Happy's > MWABT - pay attention to > > this one! > > Yes indeed, "Fear Of Fours" is an excellent release. > I'd say that nothing > *quite* stands out like "Gorecki", but overall its > more well-rounded and > consistently pleasing. Especially (early favourites) > "B-Line", "Bonfire", > "Softly", "Fly", "Lullabye" and the eight-minute > onslaught of "Ear Parcel". > > From your message Andrew I take it you haven't got > their first, self-titled > album. RUN and get it, it's equally as brilliant, > and "Gorecki" is one of my > favourite songs ever. > > Tim > === ain't no way i lost this war and ain't no way you won _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:18:25 -0400 From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: Lamb - Fear of Fours Neile wrote: > Talking about the new lamb album is CRUEL. There's not even a release date > for it here that I can find. Thanks to Geoff Parks, I have the singles for > "B Line" but waiting for the album is painful. Apparently, it is available in Canada. I'm in Toronto right now for a conference and picked it up earlier this week. I'm glad I didn't pass it up, thinking I could get it in Atlanta when I returned home. Now, if only I had brought a CD player along with me so I could listen to it. I'm sure I will be pleased since I loved the first Lamb album and the "b-line" single. I just hate having to wait. Stuart ______________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:03:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: online chat with jenny toomey today in case anyone's interested, there'll be a chat with local indie rock musician/label owner/music reviewer Jenny Toomy (of Tsunami, amongst others) today at 3:00 edt at washingtonpost.com. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:27:46 -0400 From: Bill Adler Subject: Lauren Hart, was: beautiful songs I've been listening to Lauren Hart's "Painted Bird" CD for several days. She has an exquisite voice. Musically, the CD's not especially innovative, but her lyrics and voice, which has considerable diversity, make up for that. The songs, "Color a Life" and "All I Remember" are especially worth listening to. - --Bill n.p. Lauren Hart, "Painted Bride," still... At 07:10 AM 5/14/99 -0400, you wrote: >Nick wrote: >> Hey, I'm making a mix of beautiful songs for a friend. Any >> suggestions? > >Absolutely should include "Angel" by Grey Eye Glances, off the Eventide >CD if you can. > >Bill added: >> n.p. Lauren Hart, "Painted Bride" > >Ah.. someone else got this one.. not bad at all, love "All I Remember". >And then there's "Clarke shoots... he SCORES!!!".. oh.. wait.. that was >her dad.. nevermind.. ;) > >n.p. Jennifer Knapp - Kansas (this girls gonna turn some heads at >Lilith) >-- >+-----------------------------------------------+ >+ dave + >+ Visit Sideshow Bob's House of Wax and Waffles + >+ Female vocalists, Christian, and Polish music + >+ -=-=- and the fabulous Kasia Kowalska -=-=- + >+ http://magpage.com/~sspan/ + >+-----------------------------------------------+ Bill Adler badler@adlerbooks.com http://www.adlerbooks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:06:43 -0400 From: Zoetrope Subject: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK heyla fuzzybluepeople. >the song will be on _no boundries_, a compilation on epic records wow.. I think this sounds like an awesome little live pop collection. Tho if i'm not mistaken, (which i'm known to be on occasion, and please correct me) and it's not a typo, track #3 should read, "The Ghost of Tom Jones", RATM's cover of a Springsteen tune? (I've only heard it on local radio twice, quite some time ago) They tear it up, but then I'm a Rage fan. Anybody been watching VH1's History of Rock n' Roll series that's been being broadcast this week? While chock full of standard documentary snippets and reviews, there's been some really amazing moments in the interview sections. The mere mention of Neil Young is killing me these days... I was trying to sing along with "the Loner" as I was playing 4 Way Street the other day and just kept giggling through the whole thing... remembering this anecdote from David Crosby and Graham Nash talking about when they were working with Neil. According to them, at the time he was living in a motel room with two bushbabies ... I believe the names were 'Harriet' and 'Speedy'. They said you'd open the door and these creatures would ricochet off the walls at you at face level, with Neil yelling 'don't let them out! don't let them out!' oh. SF/fantasy... how could I resist... all of Heinlein's future history stories (_Time Enough For Love_ and _The Cat Who Walks Through Walls_ being particular favorites), Julian May's _Many Colored Land_ and tie-in Galactic Milieu series, anything by Theodore Sturgeon, _Steel Beach_ by John Varley (a must for Matrix or Heinlein lovers), Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels are hysterical, I liked Douglas Adams' _Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency_ and _The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul_ (and of course Hitchhiker), _Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep_ by Phillip K. Dick, Larry Niven, Poul Anderson, L. Sprague De Camp, selective writings of Sherri S. Tepper and Melissa Scott, Harlan Ellison... but what I like or dislike I like or dislike tremendously, Orson Scott Card, C. S. Lewis that sweet dear man, Neil Gaiman, does Kurt Vonnegut fall into this category? There are so many to read, so little time. For those interested in the literary evolution of fantasy, _The Wood Beyond The World_ by William Morris is one of the earliest modern fantasies... published in 1894, Dover has printed a delightful facsimile of the original (illuminated caps at the beginnings of paragraphs, entire story in calligraphic text). SILVERLOCK! John Meyers Meyers...for everyone who's read tons of fantasy/sci-fi/mythology, you MUST read this book... every character (except Silverlock himself, and he resembles many) and scene you come across in this novel is taken from somewhere else. Doctoral dissertations have been written about Silverlock. Lists have been published trying to document the subreferences. It's also quite difficult to find... so if you get a copy, hang onto it. ~!@L. np: Paper Music, Bobby McFerrin (my favorite track on this being Vivaldi's Concerto in G minor for 2 Cellos, Strings and Continuo ... McFerrin is the conductor and the voice of one cello.) nr: _Brainscapes_, Richard Restak, M.D. (interesting, easy reading but dry. I'm about to finish, and have three drastically different choices lined up. It'll depend on my mood at the time.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:36:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: Re: kosovo benefit cd, history of rock n' roll, sf and SILVERLOCK zoetrope sez: > >the song will be on _no boundries_, a compilation on epic records > > wow.. > I think this sounds like an awesome little live pop collection. sounds a little too cruncy for me (I really detest RATM, for instance) > Tho if i'm not mistaken, (which i'm known to be on occasion, and please > correct me) and it's not a typo, track #3 should read, "The Ghost of Tom > Jones", RATM's cover of a Springsteen tune? It's not a typo, it *is* a cover of the Springsteen tune, and yes, it really is "Joad," not "Jones." jeff np: _Trailer Park_, Beth Orton (finally retrieved this from my step mother's car cd changer last night, after ~6 months) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:24:03 -0700 From: Brian Bloom Subject: PixelToy (was:Lamb - Fear of Fours) For those to whom this sounds appealing, but have a machine other than a PowerPC, check out Cthugha: http://www.afn.org/~cthugha/ Great interactive eyecandy set to the music of your choice.. Seems very similar to what PixelToy claims to offer.. Brian At 11:53 AM 5/14/99 +1000, you wrote: >I also have to mention a program that seems to play a part in my current >fascination with more electric sounds: PixelToy, "a visual plaything". It >displays pretty patterns but it also has a mode where it can be coupled to the >sound source and I find the results mesmerising. > >(If anyone feels like playing, PixelToy is freeware, and can be downloaded from > But it only runs on PowerPC Mac) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:00:57 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: beautiful songs Hi! Nick inquired: > Hey, I'm making a mix of beautiful songs for a friend. Any > suggestions? Veda Hille, _26 Years_ Veda Hille, _Boat Ride To Skidegate_ KaTe Bush, _Never Be Mine_ Tori Amos, _Bells For Her_ There are of course many more, but this should be more than enough to add to your list. :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:27:56 -0400 From: Paul Kim Subject: homicide was cancelled sad news. Homicide : Life on the Streets was officially cancelled by NBC yesterday. The show, about to wrap up it's 7th season, was filmed and produced in Maryland, mainly around Fells Point. It was one of my favorite TV shows and I think one of the best shows out there. While the quality had suffered over the past 2 and a half seasons (especially this one), it still offered flashes of brilliance and always made use of popular music in prominent fashion (both it and Due South were the first shows I saw that consistently edited scenes and montages around a song). Paul "we now return you to your regularly scheduled program" Kim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:00:26 -0400 From: meredith Subject: beth orton on letterman Hi! Thanks to whomever it was who posted the warning about Beth Orton on Letterman last night (was that you, Paul?). I taped it, and I just watched it. I was happy to see that she did my favorite song from _Central Reservation_ ("Stolen Car"). But since I've never had the chance to see her perform live myself, I just have to ask - is she always like that, or was she just totally freaked at playing on TV? She looked and sounded positively terrified. I thought she was going to keel over right in the middle of it. Does anyone know if she's going to be touring in the U.S. anytime? I've been trying to find tour dates for her, but haven't had any luck. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:07:36 -0400 From: Michael Curry Subject: RIAA vs MP3s I thought this might be of some interest. W I R E D N E W S Top Stories - 9:35am 14.May.99.PDT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MUSIC BIZ BUILDS A TIME BOMB (TECH. 3:00 am) http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/19682.html The Recording Industry Association of America is out to exterminate MP3 -- and is pressuring hardware and software makers to build in a "kill switch" that would take care of it once and for all. By Christopher Jones. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:21:27 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: lynn canfield tour dates! stolen from the latest projekt newsletter... >Lynn Canfield and Hot Tub Party > * * * JUST ADDED * * * > >Former singer from Area / Moon Seven Times / Shotgun Wedding on tour >playing songs from all of those bands. Ask her to perform her take on >Madonna: "Ethereal Girl" > >Sunday, June 20 4-6pm at BORDERS in Germantown, TN >Monday, June 21 7:30 -9:30 at BORDERS in Wilmington, DE > and possibly a show after that at the Tin Angel in Philadelphia. >Tuesday, June 22 8-10pm at BORDERS in Kensington, MD (Washington DC, really) >Wednesday, June 23 7-8 at Arlene's Grocery in New York, NY > possibly a show after that at the Starbucks on Cooper Square >Thursday, June 24 8-10 at BORDERS in Cincinnati, OH > sometime on WXVU that day too. >Friday, June 25 8-10 at BORDERS in Columbus, OH >Saturday, June 26 8-10 at BORDERS in Duluth, GA >Sunday, June 27 2-4 at BORDERS in Atlanta, GA > and an unconfirmed club gig in Buckhead >Monday, June 28 another unconfirmed club gig in the Atlanta area >Tuesday, June 29 8-10 at BORDERS in Gaithersburg, MD >Wednesday, June 30 8-10 at BORDERS in Champaign, IL wheee! woj n.p. wpkn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:28:00 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Moving the CD Store Directory to smoe Hi! As promised, I've added a link to Kay's CD Store Directory to the "Related Pages" list on the Ecto Home Page. Happy EWS! :) The ecto home page is located at: . +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:31:11 -0400 From: Paul Kim Subject: Re: beth orton on letterman At 11:00 PM 5/14/99 -0400, meredith wrote: >Hi! > >Thanks to whomever it was who posted the warning about Beth Orton on >Letterman last night (was that you, Paul?). I taped it, and I just watched >it. I was happy to see that she did my favorite song from _Central >Reservation_ ("Stolen Car"). But since I've never had the chance to see >her perform live myself, I just have to ask - is she always like that, or >was she just totally freaked at playing on TV? She looked and sounded >positively terrified. I thought she was going to keel over right in the >middle of it. me me me :) Beth seemed totally nervous. I saw her last year in Boston and while she was rather shy on stage (had a floppy hat on that she kept pulled over her eyes) but she did have some good stage banter and seemed fairly comfortable. Her voice was also a lot stronger than last night. >Does anyone know if she's going to be touring in the U.S. anytime? I've >been trying to find tour dates for her, but haven't had any luck. go to Pollstar online for her tourdates. She'll be in NY at Roseland on June 3rd and in Noho at Pearl Street on the 18th of June. Her official non-Arista website is at http://www.bugjuice.com/bethorton/ The arista website is http://www.arista.com/aristaweb/BethOrton/artist_index.html oh, hey, more homicide stuff...did anyone catch the use of Ani DiFranco's "Shameless" on tonight's episode? *sigh* one more episode left... oh, and there's an article on the new Angel series spinoff from Buffy in this week's Entertainment Weekly. Paul "i fear" Kim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:45:49 -0400 (EDT) From: joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell) Subject: Re: beth orton on letterman damn damn damn!!! i would LOVE to see beth play. i have followed her since i read about trailer park in a magazine, and i was so disappointed that she ended up not playing at pnc bank lilith fair last summer. and now, she comes to ny... on my sister's 24th birthday. she'd kill me if i went, and she's not going to want to go... woe is me. JoAnn np: Ani DiFranco Little Plastic Castle ps: woj, why is your e-name "four episode lesbian"? i thought you were a man. Paul wrote: >go to Pollstar online for her tourdates. She'll be in NY at Roseland on >June 3rd and in Noho at Pearl Street on the 18th of June. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 03:43:44 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: lynn canfield tour dates! On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 11:21:27PM -0400, four episode lesbian wrote: > stolen from the latest projekt newsletter... > > >Lynn Canfield and Hot Tub Party > >Tuesday, June 22 8-10pm at BORDERS in Kensington, MD (Washington DC, really) To further confuse things, while maps say that it's in Rockville, residents call the area North Bethesda. Whatever -- it's in the White Flint Mall, a short walk or shuttle ride from the Red line Metro Stop of the same name. > >Tuesday, June 29 8-10 at BORDERS in Gaithersburg, MD Hmm... Having seen Lanterna there, I'm well on my way to seeing Area there in random pieces. Is that like collecting the Kiss solo albums?-) n.p. John Zorn, Duras/Duchamp n.r. Alan Cooper: The Inmates are Running the Asylum ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 01:22:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Cathy Sandifer Subject: Re: beth orton on letterman meredith wrote: : :Does anyone know if she's going to be touring in the U.S. anytime? I've :been trying to find tour dates for her, but haven't had any luck. She'll be in DC on June 2 at the 9:30 Club. Which also, natch, happens to be the same night that Natalie Merchant is playing at Wolf Trap. - -Cathy, not inspired enough to try to see Beth at the HFStival np in my head: Don Johnson's "Heartbeat", after having watched "The 25 Lamest Videos of All Time". *whimper* Make it stop... - -- cathy@radix.net ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #172 **************************