From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #103 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, March 20 1999 Volume 05 : Number 103 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] 2 more Living Room gigs coming up [ABershaw@aol.com] Tori Videos [Suzanne Cerquone ] Starseeds ["Craig Gidney" ] Re: Tori Videos [Patrick Moseley ] Re: Tori Videos [Neile Graham ] Neile's February Obsessions (a rather late report) [Neile Graham ] Re: Tori Videos ["jeffrey c. burka" ] Re: Tori Videos [Patrick Moseley ] Re: Tori Videos [Michael Colford ] Re: Tori Videos [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: Tori Videos [Mark Lowry ] Re: Neile's February Obsessions (a rather late report) [meredith ] oac: jenny bruce/jessica weiser living room concert!!! [Songbird22@aol.co] Re: Tori Videos [Stuart Myerburg ] Re: Tori Videos [meredith ] In Defence of John D [Dave Williamson ] Linda Perhacs [Valerie Kraemer ] Re: ecto-digest V5 #101 [lanblind@teleport.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 03:00:04 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************** Barry Wong (no Email address) ********************** ******************* Graham Dombkins (no Email address) ******************** ********************** Ian Young (no Email address) *********************** ********************** Jeff Wasilko (jeffw@smoe.org) ********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Squiggol Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces John Stewart Sat March 21 1970 Aries Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Tom Proven Sat March 27 1971 Eat at Joe's Jennifer Albert Wed March 30 1966 Aries (w/Cancer rising!:) Warpaint Mon April 01 1991 Brilliant! Michael Pearce Wed April 03 1946 Pegasus Michael E. Bravo Mon April 05 1971 Dandelion Wine Brion McIntosh Sun April 06 1958 Aries Marcel Kshensky Thu April 06 1950 Aries Bill Mazur Mon April 06 1953 Aries Sun/Cancer Rising David Dixon Tue April 07 1970 Aries Heidi Heller Mon April 08 1974 Aries Jill Hughes Sat April 09 1955 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Stephen Golden Sat April 10 1971 Jokey Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Wolfgang Ullwer Fri April 11 1969 Widder Janet Kirsch Thu April 11 1974 Aries Jerry Tue April 13 1971 Aries Stuart Myerburg Mon April 14 1969 Aries T-Bone Wed April 15 1992 happy cat Jeff Hanson Sat April 16 1966 Aries Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:49:09 EST From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: 2 more Living Room gigs coming up Hi all, An invitation to two more private Living Room shows worth checking out if youre anywhere near San Francisco, CA or Santa Fe, New Mexico. Alan Joy Eden Harrison- Living Room Concert: Friday, March 26th Santa Fe, New Mexico For RSVP's, Directions or more information please contact Duff at Justduff@aol.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- An acoustic springtime transformation show with Elizabeth Hummel in San Francisco: Friday April 9th 964 Natoma St. (SOMA) between 10th & 11th and Mission & Howard Doors open at 8:00 pm Concert begins at 8:30 pm $5-10 donation For more information or RSVP's please contact: Mimi: 415-551-AFRO mimulus@sirius.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:05:10 -0600 From: Suzanne Cerquone Subject: Tori Videos I just bought the Tori Amos video compilation ('92-'98). I had seen all the "Little Earthquakes" videos and "God" before, and only "Jackie's Strength" and "Raspberry Swirl" on enhanced CD. Great compilation. I must say I enjoy the U.S. version of "Cornflake Girl" over the Euro version--that one was a little too bizarre for my tastes! My question is for "Past the Mission," probably my fave video on the compilation (with "Caught a Lite Sneeze" coming in 2nd--great cinematography). What is that video all about? You know--Tori hand-in-hand with Latin American females, walking through a village, the men looking on, then they lay down in front of priest, the priest walks over them, they get back up and go back to the fields all happy? Huh? I say it's my favorite because the video is screaming for everyone's individual interpretation and I'd love to hear what you all (or y'all!) think. Thanks. - --Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:24:02 -0500 From: "Craig Gidney" Subject: Starseeds - --0__=dJL8j2U140CmUixGxuvg29bdEH6qtdMFidws55V2Y23hMLDIhMbsb5wS Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline The Starseeds. Hailing from Germany, this group bridges the gap between Bjork - --0__=dJL8j2U140CmUixGxuvg29bdEH6qtdMFidws55V2Y23hMLDIhMbsb5wS Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ?s spacey electronica lullabyes, and the Cocteau Twins angelic arias. The background music is densely electronic, liquid and environmental, n= ot unlike Future Sound of London?s masterpiece, Lifeforms. The chanteuse alters dreamy, stream-of-conscious spoken word with soaring wordless vo= cal flights. At times the pieces rise to the loveliness of late-period Cocteaus, but for the most part hovers as intriguing ambient chill-out tunes. = - --0__=dJL8j2U140CmUixGxuvg29bdEH6qtdMFidws55V2Y23hMLDIhMbsb5wS-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:40:43 -0500 From: Patrick Moseley Subject: Re: Tori Videos >My question is for "Past the Mission," probably my fave video on the >compilation (with "Caught a Lite Sneeze" coming in 2nd--great >cinematography). What is that video all about? You know--Tori >hand-in-hand with Latin American females, walking through a village, the >men looking on, then they lay down in front of priest, the priest walks >over them, they get back up and go back to the fields all happy? Huh? I think I read or heard that the theme of that video is female empowerment - -- over both organized religion and male dominance. I seem to recall Tori saying that the climactic scene with the women laying down in the alley while the priest walks over them is their final act of "submission" before being free (and happy) in the field afterward. >I say it's my favorite because the video is screaming for everyone's >individual interpretation and I'd love to hear what you all (or y'all!) >think. Thanks. >--Suzanne My favorite Tori video is a tie between "Caught a Lite Sneeze" because of (as you noted) its excellent cinematography, and my sentimental favorite "Silent All These Years," which is wonderfully simplistic and beautifully shot and edited. Otherwise, I'm not too big a fan of Tori's videos; I don't think any of them except the above two have ever added to my opinion of the individual song, and in many cases the videos hurt my opinion of the song (because I couldn't get the visuals out of my head when hearing them afterwards). I'd say the videos for "Pretty Good Year," "Cornflake Girl" (UK) and "Winter" were the greatest offenders. Patrick who, on second thought, must admit he liked the "Spark" video a little as well. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:04:33 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Tori Videos >Otherwise, I'm not too big a fan of Tori's videos; I don't >think any of them except the above two have ever added to my opinion of the >individual song, and in many cases the videos hurt my opinion of the song >(because I couldn't get the visuals out of my head when hearing them >afterwards). I'd say the videos for "Pretty Good Year," "Cornflake Girl" >(UK) and "Winter" were the greatest offenders. I'd agree with that, though I like _parts_ of "Winter"--there's something about that scene of her in white singing with the white piano, and there's a moment when she approaches the camera that seems quite charming, but overall it seemed clumsy to me. The one that I actually find embarrassingly awful is "Crucify"--there's the bathtub cliche and the weird dumb dress she does the awkward doubled "dancing" in. Yuck. The U.S. "Cornflake Girl" seemed clumsy to me, too. I do like "Caught a Lite Sneeze" and "Spark" quite a lot. - --Neile n.r. Sebastian Faulks _Birdsong_ n.p. Tori's _Choirgirl Hotel_ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:35:44 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Neile's February Obsessions (a rather late report) February was a busy month for music and everything, and March has been just crazy for me with deadlines. I was trying to write these things once a month so I'll be more ready when the year-end things comes along, and also to let people know about music that I might otherwise not mention, at least until then, but life interferes, doesn't it? Anyway, here's what I was listening to in February, the great, the good and the I'm-not-sure-what. My main obsession was, without a doubt, David Usher's _Little Songs_. It has been a long time since I obsessed so very much (so much that Jim got heartily sick of it) with an album that didn't have female vocals, but the part that this has in common with the female vocalists I love is his powerfully emotional singing and evocative somewhat cryptic lyrics. He is the singer for Moist, and I'm wondering if I want to look into their music, too, but I love this, love it, and highly recommend it. It's fairly mellow overall in sound, but intense, too. I also obsessed with Bjork's vocal twin, bloem de ligny from The Netherlands (via Marion Kippers--thank, Marion!). There's one dancey tune, but overall it's what Bjork would sound like if she were doing less dancey more odd alterna-pop-electro-rock stuff. I worry that I should be more disturbed how much her vocal style imitates Bjork--I mean, I can't imagine a review of this that wouldn't discuss the similarity--but I find myself just enjoying the album, maybe as much as I enjoy Bjork's. Her songs are very darn good. Two other major enjoyments were Annika Bentley and Meg Lunney. I can't remember who on ecto mentioned Annika Bentley and posted her website to the list, but whoever you are, thank you. I downloaded the sound samples from there. At first I wasn't particularly impressed, but they got on my playlist cycle with MacAmp and I kept hearing them and they haunted me enough that I sent for the disc. I really like it. Stripped down but still lush sound and mournful vocals. Interesting songwriting and (after a shaky start to the song) probably the best cover of Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne" that I've ever heard. She's doing some individual work here. Meg Lunney's_ The Margaret Anns_ was sent to me by a friend in Ottawa who was sure I'd like it, and I really do. She's a little hard to describe--more like early _No Borders Here_-era Jane Siberry than anything else I can think of. Maybe a touch of Mary Margaret O'Hara, too, particularly in the voice. Some Kristin Hersh-ishness in there, too. And a couple of Celtic songs on the disc. Interesting and different. Spent time listening to a disc I got last year but that got set aside: becki di gregorio's _Seven worthies..._ that I had bought on spec when browsing audio sample files at the wonderful Harmony Ridge site. She somehow sounds a lot like Linda Thompson to me vocally, though the musical style is not particularly similar. joydrop's >metasexual will be of interest to those here who like very rock sounds, though there are some softer tunes on it. There's one really loud tune that actually at first put me off them (it can take me a lo-o-o-o-ong time to break through the wall of sound thing, particularly as I rarely have time to do nothing but listen to music, and while I'm doing something else loud music I'm not familiar with can get on my nerves) but anyway, I started really liking the rest of the album. Not sure who I'd compare them too or how I'd categorize. Can anyone else help here? Also got the two Land of the Blind singles and Cyoakha's own single and new Aziga stuff. This is always welcome. Interesting how there's such a consistency to her sound--it all sounds very Cyoakha to me! I'd recommend these to anyone who likes the world-trance-pop-rock.... sound of Land of the Blind. I look forward to more full-length projects. Some live music: Also got Holly McNarland's _Live Stuff_, which I'd recommend to anyone who likes her. Not all that different from her album versions, so if you don't like her it's not going to change your mind. Got a great "authorized bootleg" disc of live Cordelia's Dad material, _Joy Fun Garden_ which I'd recommend to any fan, even if it doesn't include one of my favourite parts of their sound, Cath Oss' vocal harmonies. Their (male) lead singer is pretty damn wonderful on his own. Also got Pepper Acton's live tape. I'd love to hear her live! Her voice sounds more strained/harsh on this than on her disc and the recording's not so great, but her renditions of the songs are good and I loved the new songs I heard, but overall I'd recommend _Marrow_ over this. The only disappointment was The Leslie Spit Treeo's _Chocolate Chip Cookies_ which has some annoying chipmunk-voice amusichats interspersed between the songs. I don't know if I can bear it, as The Leslie Spit Treeo has always been an up and down kinda experience for me. I loved about 75% of their _Book of Rejection_, though. Some utterly brilliant material on there. I haven't been able to listen to the songs I really like on this. I guess they were having fun but it gets in my way. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:48:22 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Tori Videos The only one of Tori's videos that I can recall is "God", mostly for the striking juxtaposition of the tefillin and the snake-handling. On Fri, 19 Mar 1999, Neile Graham wrote: > The one that I actually find embarrassingly awful is "Crucify"--there's the > bathtub cliche and the weird dumb dress she does the awkward doubled > "dancing" in. Yuck. My current n.r., "Virtual Faith" by Tom Beaudoin, in exploring the state of religions among "Generation X" (the age group, not the band), looks into several videos, including "Crucify", REM's "Losing My Religion", and Soundgarden's "Black Hole Sun" to interesting effect. n.p. Steve Reich, "Reich Remixed" - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:22:04 -0500 (EST) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: Re: Tori Videos I think it was Patrick who said: > >individual song, and in many cases the videos hurt my opinion of the song > >(because I couldn't get the visuals out of my head when hearing them > >afterwards). I'd say the videos for "Pretty Good Year," "Cornflake Girl" > >(UK) and "Winter" were the greatest offenders. But isn't that the sign of an effective video -- you can't get the visuals out of your head when you hear the song? Strangely, I've only seen the LE videos (mostly thanks to being up enough on Tori due to r.m.g that I taped the MTV interview in 4/92, when the showed a whole slew of 'em). I've seen maybe 15 seconds of "God" and "Cornflake Girl." Oops, wait, I forgot that I have two videos via the original "Jackie's Strength" single (anybody have any comments on the new remix single?). I *like* the "Winter" video. A lot. Probably my favorite of them. And I'd much rather watch all of those than the early KaTe videos... jeff np: _Central Reservation_, Beth Orton ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:31:53 -0500 From: Patrick Moseley Subject: Re: Tori Videos >But isn't that the sign of an effective video -- you can't get the visuals >out of your head when you hear the song? Oh, yeah. I guess I should've been clearer. What I meant was, I didn't care for the visuals in the majority of Tori's videos (such as Tori's odd, out-of-place Janet Jackson-ized dance with the shirtless men in "Pretty Good Year"), and it hurt my opinions of the individual songs because now whenever I hear them, those visuals pop in my head. On the other hand, having the visuals for "CALS" going through my head during the song have heightened my opinion of it. So you're right. >And I'd much rather watch all of those than the early KaTe videos... Heh. No contest there. >jeff >np: _Central Reservation_, Beth Orton Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:38:28 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Tori Videos On Fri, 19 Mar 1999, Patrick Moseley wrote: > >And I'd much rather watch all of those than the early KaTe videos... > > Heh. No contest there. Oh puh-lease! You boys are way off here. Jeff, I'm shocked! I'd much rather watch those old Kate videos than just about anything on video today! They're classic! And absolutely hysterical! :-) Of course, she really started to get interesting video-wise during the Never For Ever and The Dreaming stage. The videos for "Suspended in Gaffa" and "There Goes a Tenner" are two of my all-time fave videos! Of course, it helps that those are two of the best songs recorded as well. Michael http://www.whereitis.com/home/colford http://www.whereitis.com/home/chlotrudis n.p. Blondie - No Exit n.r. Judgement of Tears by Kim Newman - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:11:07 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Tori Videos Michael Colford sez: > Oh puh-lease! You boys are way off here. Jeff, I'm shocked! > I'd much rather watch those old Kate videos than just about > anything on video today! They're classic! And absolutely > hysterical! :-) Well, that's just it. I can appreciate them for what they are and when they were made. But that's about the extent of it...my... appreciation for them. > Of course, she really started to get interesting video-wise > during the Never For Ever and The Dreaming stage. The videos > for "Suspended in Gaffa" and "There Goes a Tenner" are two of > my all-time fave videos! I adore SiG, and I dig "Army Dreamers" as well, though some of the slo-mo stuff gets a bit much. I've never seen "There Goes a Tenner." But my absolute favorite KaTe video, for ever and ever, is "Hounds of Love." Mmmmm, yes. jeff - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka|||http://www.cqi.com/~jburka ||||"I've got time to rest / | ||||||||||||| And I've got a clear, able mind that sees my life going fine. | | 'Cause everything I need is right here in my hands..." --Melissa Ferrick | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:57:11 -0600 From: Mark Lowry Subject: Re: Tori Videos Hi, It's odd, but as much as love KaTe and Tori, the only videos I've seen from them are KaTe's "Love and Anger" and "The Sensual World" and Tori's "God" and "Jackie's Strength" and "Raspberry Swirl" (and the last two only because of the single). For what it's worth, I rather like all of them. I probably should check out that Tori video Suzanne spoke of. Are Kate's videos available for sale? Speaking of Tori, I was buying batteries at my neighborhood Eckerd when on the overhead music I heard Tori's version of "Angie." How weird is that? I can see them playing Tori's "hits", but a b-side? I waited around to see what followed, and it was a Police song. I guess some Toriphile made that compilation. Mark n.p. George Michael _Listen Without Prejudice Vol I_ (haven't listened to this in ages ... I likes) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:12:30 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Neile's February Obsessions (a rather late report) Whoa!!! I'm not even finished reading this yet, but I HAVE to post what just happened. I'm sitting here listening to Ray Terlaga's show on WPKN (ah, Friday evenings :). I was just reading this: (from Neile) >Interesting songwriting and >(after a shaky start to the song) probably the best cover of Leonard >Cohen's "Suzanne" that I've ever heard. When I started reading that paragraph a scratchy, somewhat-familiar guitar tune started up. And when my eyes lit on the word "Suzanne", Leonard Cohen's voice came out of the stereo speakers and started singing the song (the first word of which is, of course, "Suzanne"). WooooOOOOOOOooooo. This has to be the most bizarre case of ectosynchronicity I've *ever* experienced. Back to my reading ... :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:30:00 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Tori Videos Hi! I bought woj the Tori video compilation for Christmas. It's still sitting on top of one of our shelves in its plastic wrapping. Guess I should open it sometime. But the only one on it I haven't seen and/or have elsewhere on tape already is the European "Cornflake Girl" video, so I guess there's not really been a big rush. For the record, my favorite Tori video is "Silent All These Years", followed closely by "China". SATY was for many their introduction to Tori, and I still maintain that without that video she wouldn't have gone so far so fast. People sat up and took notice because it was so *different*. (I wrote an article for the Tori fanzine about that video, actually ... funny, I'd totally forgotten about that until just now.) Also for the record, my favorite KaTe video is "Running Up That Hill" (the real version, not the bastardized made-for-eMpTV version). I could just watch that over and over and over. It's stunning. And so is KaTe. :) After that my favorite of hers is "The Big Sky". It's just so silly. Michael reported: >n.p. Blondie - No Exit What do you think of this? I think it's telling that my favorite tracks are the live classics at the every end. "Rapture" is, well, rapturous. :) I'm also rather frightened by the fact that my favorite of the new tracks is the single. Sigh. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:36:28 EST From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: oac: jenny bruce/jessica weiser living room concert!!! hey guys, in case you've missed the posts about it, this weekend i'll be playing in Boston at a Living Room Concert with the fab Jenny Bruce. We're staring around 4 and it will be a relaxed, intimate environment. If you haven't RSVP'd already, are interested in more details, or anything else, please let me know ASAP! It's Sunday, March 21st at 4pm. Also, if anyone could tape the sets for me I would *greatly* appreciate it and would pay you for a copy. (Email me) Hope to see some of you there!!!! - -jessica np: stretch princess http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess -or- www.cdbaby.com/buy/weiser.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:47:00 -0500 From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: Tori Videos "jeffrey c. burka" wrote: > Oops, wait, I forgot that I have two videos via the original "Jackie's > Strength" single (anybody have any comments on the new remix single?). I like the remix of "Jackie's Strength." For a song that was originally a quintessential Tori ballad, it works surprisingly well in a dance version. And, unlike many Tori remixes ("Professional Widow" immediately comes to mind), the ones for "Jackie's Strength" retain almost all of the lyrics and melody of the original. Stuart np: Apple Venus Vol. 1 - XTC nr: P.S. Your Cat is Dead - James Kirkwood - -- ______________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:10:26 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Tori Videos Hi! Stuart noted: >I like the remix of "Jackie's Strength." For a song that was originally >a quintessential Tori ballad, it works surprisingly well in a dance >version. You're not thinking of the "priscilla, queen of the desert" version that's on the single which just came out, are you? :) IMHO the only worthwhile Tori remix so far was the stunning "Dakota version" of "Hey Jupiter". Yow. But I'm pretty much opposed to remixes in general anyway, so I'm biased. The "Raspberry Swirl" video, since we're talking about Tori and KaTe, has a lot of elements of the "Hounds of Love" video in it, to me ... anybody else reminded of the party scene? +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:08:58 -0800 From: Dave Williamson Subject: In Defence of John D I'm sure I'm subjecting myself to a flame attack, but so be it. Flame away. I have just been catching up on my email pile and was put into laughing hysterics with John's first reply to the "Too Many CDs" thread. I happen to agree with John that this thread got way out of hand, and just started to look to me like a huge pissing contest on who had the most, or lots of CDs. The interesting bits were buried in a couple of the early messages that seemed to give some legitimate answers to storage. But what surprised me most was the reaction to John, and the hypocrisy buried in some of those replies. For those of you that didn't or don't like John's messages, use the delete key yourself, or better yet set up a filter and throw his messages directly in the trash on receipt. I hardly see how perpetual flaming of this guy (or anyone else for that matter) is of any use to anyone. Lighten up folks... Cheers, Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:30:41 -0500 From: Valerie Kraemer Subject: Linda Perhacs Is anyone here familiar with the music of Linda Perhacs? I've just recently been introduced to her music, and she seems to be one of the earlier "Ecto" artists that I've heard. The little I know about her is that she has one album that came out in 1970 called _Parallelograms_ on the Hawaii label. I hear a resemblance in her music to such groups as Fairport Convention, but the arrangements are much more inventive (very psychedelic at times). Her voice sounds like a cross between Grace Slick and Sandy Denny (if you can imagine that). I heard her recently on Irene Trudel's show on WFMU in New Jersey. I was then very happy to find the album in our record library at WPKN (way, way back in the stacks). I was curious if anyone else has ever heard of this artist. I did an internet search, and the only thing I came up with were Irene's playlists. Oh well. - --Valerie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:55:56 -0800 From: lanblind@teleport.com Subject: Re: ecto-digest V5 #101 At 01:55 AM 3/18/99 -0500, you wrote: > >ecto-digest Thursday, March 18 1999 Volume 05 : Number 101 > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 01:45:00 -0600 >From: Kay S Cleaves >Subject: Katell in New Haven/Happy in a restaurant > > >On a completely unrelated note, and this gets back to Paul (I think it >was Paul)'s comment about running into Happy at a restaurant. I >discovered this evening while I was discussing the nature of goth with >our costumes intern that she (the intern), happens to be the roommate of >one Preston Klik, member of My Scarlet Life and formerly of Big Hat. I >found that to be incredibly neat. One of the few local Chicago bands >that I'm aware of and I'm working with one of the band member's roommate. > (Grammar? Whatever...) How truly odd. > >Oh yes, and FWIW, neither "Jet" nor "O Seasons..." did much for me, they >seemed too overwhelmingly Celtic which from my point of view is just not >my fave. That wailing (possessed by a Native American Spirit, I think >someone said) I found a little grating as well. Mind you, I do like a >nice bit of Irish music now and then, especially considering the date...I >did like "Leonor" though, more for its references to what I was studying >when I first heard it (modern French dramatic literature...it was >appropriate at the time...) and I personally enjoy "that monkey song" >(Hestia). But then, I tend to listen more to the lyrics of a song than >to the more melodic aspects of it. (Cy, I'd love to hear some of that >spoken word stuff!) > >But enough rambling for the time being-- > >- --Kay > hey Kay, Surprised to hear you think Katell is very Celtic, being pure Irish myself (but creating some very strange non-traditional music) I feel her stuff to be folk/rock/pop with an occasional eclectic/interesting and intellectual bent, but Celtic? HmmmmmI will have to listen more. Leonor is one of my favs also. To your friend that is room-mates with a Scarlet Life member, I would love to do a trade with him, LAND OF THE BLIND for MY SCARLET LIFE, as so many ectoheads have mentioned that we are similiar. We should hook up for east and west coast tour assistance also. Kay, please get me in touch if you can. More spoken word? Me? or Katell? I'm Confused girl....Thanks, Cyfused Oh, and to Richard, wow, thanks for saying my CD was one of your favorites, you don't know how that feels. WONDERFUL! I work very hard, writing and sending tapes back and forth from SF to Portland, and updating the web site and tour and gig booking and all the artwork and sometimes you think you are in a BIG FAT VOID where you give and give and all the artists that have money or are signed get back and you, you get nothing.....so you learn to do it for the person that comes up crying after a show, to the guy on the list that puts your self-produced work up there with "the big boys with money" and you do it for yourself. But to see that now and then (Thank you Anna in Sweden also!!!!) can make me go on now for another 6 months of struggle. Thanks, Cyrazy > > > > >On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 (that long ago?), neal copperman > writes: > >> At 2:58 PM -0800 3/12/99, Richard Holmes wrote: >> > > >> >I'm completing my collection of readily available Cat Power, and building >> >on the Cocteau Twins, and attempting to get into October Project. >> > >> >> Falling Farther In October Project >> >> October Project October Project >> >> Well, that is the whole October Project catalog, so if you fail with these, >> you've nowhere to go. > >Haven't gotten to these yet - but so far my faves of the collection >are Rachel Sage and Land of the Blind, followed by Sinead Lohan. Land of the Blind 3439 NE Sandy Blvd., Suite 266 Portland, Oregon USA (503) 321-5093 email lanblind@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~lanblind/ Distributed through: "Out of Chaos"-- Burnside Distribution "One Eye"-- Rainforest Records ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #103 **************************