From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #88 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, March 10 1999 Volume 05 : Number 088 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Response to Steve's webring question [Kay S Cleaves ] mistress of confusion! ["Anna Elaine Pryde" ] Re: Too many CD's [Peter Clark ] Re: Too many CD's [FAMarcus@aol.com] Re: Too many CD's [Dirk Kastens ] Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin Oops? [Michael Colford ] Susan McKeown - Album of Year [Bob Brown ] Re: Too many CD's [Brian Bloom ] RE: Too many CD's ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] Imogen Heap (was: Apples and oranges) ["Bill" ] sonuva...upcoming concerts in boston [Paul Kim ] Lisa Cerbone ["Bittner, Matthew (KTR) ~U" ] Re: Too many CD's [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: sonuva...upcoming concerts in boston ["jeffrey c. burka" ] Re: Too many CD's ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Re: sonuva...upcoming concerts in boston [Michael Colford ] Re: Too many CD's ["Bill" ] Re: sonuva...upcoming concerts in boston ["jeffrey c. burka" ] Queen of Tel Aviv ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] My Non-Ecto Genre Shame (was: Re: Celtic Music) [james cunnane ] FWD: Jenny Bruce/Jessica Weiser live in Boston [Songbird22@aol.com] Re: Too many CD's [Peter Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:29:47 -0600 From: Kay S Cleaves Subject: Response to Steve's webring question Hey-- If the page contains ectophilic content or is maintained by an ecto member, or both, it can join the ring. If it's an artist page for someone who's been mentioned around here, I'll be happy to add it, or if the name of the person who made the page shows up on my list of current ecto members, I'll add that, too. It makes for a rather odd diversity of web page themes, but I think it's turning into a rather appropriately eclectic webring... - --Kay ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:00:05 -0500 From: "Anna Elaine Pryde" Subject: mistress of confusion! Hey all, Sorry about the confusing way in which I worded my innocent question about Happy's album Ecto. I caused much confusion, and got Patrick corrected over and over again! Patrick, thanks for answering my questions, ambiguity and all! I tried the Ectophile Guide a few weeks ago and kept getting error messages, and I gave up in frustration. I am glad to hear Samson is considering rereleasing Happy's old stuff. > Also, in case you didn't realize this already, KaTe and Kate Bush > are one and the same. Some people just refer to her as "KaTe." If you > haven't ever heard any of her music, I'd definitely recommend you check it > out. She has a "best-of" album called "The Whole Story" which works as a > great introduction to her music. Thanks for clearing that up. I suspected, but... My coworker brought in The WHole Story just today in fact! And I adore it, naturally! > If you haven't gotten Happy's latest, "Many Worlds Are Born > Tonight" (which you didn't list), then in my opinion you haven't heard her > best work yet. She also has two other albums - "Ecto" and "The Keep," which > you didn't mention. You might want to seek these out as well. I bought Many Worlds..., but was singularly unimpressed- about as unimpressed as one can be with any of Happy's music. I liked it, but it just didn't speak to me inside like Rhodes I and II did. Am I the only one who is a traditionalist here? Many Worlds was too techno-synth-pop for me, if that makes any sense. ANd i much prefer her upper register to her baritone, which she seems to use more in this album, although the fact that she has such an astonishing range never fails to floor me. When I first heard her music, I tthought her soprano and baritone were two different people! Any opinions? Light, Anna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:41:43 -0700 From: Peter Clark Subject: Re: Too many CD's RavFlight@aol.com wrote: > > Hello all. I was hoping that someone here might be able to help me. It > sounds as if many of you have impressive CD collections, so I thought this > would be a perfect place to ask the question. > I have a rather large CD and Video collection (1700 CD's and 800 Vids, maybe > more), and I live in a small studio apartment. Now, both of my collecitons > have overflown their storage shelves, and I no longer have to room to add any > more. (They already dominate my collection) I was hoping to find some ideas > that would economise the space of storage and still leave my collections > readily available and fairly convenient. Any ideas..or suggestions that other > peope use to store their CD's. It's growing out of hand, so I greatly > appriciate any ideas. Thanks > > Ryan Rogers > RavFlight@aol.com I had the same problem with cds... stop buying them or sell stuff I didn't want top get rid of. I settled on an outfit in New York called Bags Unlimited (they have have a web site) which makes a variety of vinyl replacements for the dreaded jewel box. There are others. Considering the number of cds that I had to 'recover' it took a while to decide (I asked for and got samples.) They make a Tyvek inner liner that I would recommend in addition to the PVC outer cover. The liner will help prevent scratching (not a problem with a jewel case) just by taking the cd in and out. Major drawback... what the hell to do with 1000+ empty used jewel cases. Any takers? Minor drawbacks... you can't read the spines any more (it is an imperfect universe) and the sleeves are very slick so you have to support them with bookends or the like or they'll slip under each other. BTW, using the plastic sleeves including the booklets and J-cards without the liners (conservatively) quadruples the number of cds you can store in the same space. THAT made it all worth while. Also, avoid the whole loose-leaf book idea. If you have that many cds, you've probably long since alphabetized them just so you can find them. With books, you'll spend the rest of your life reslotting the tunes and not listening to them. Back to lurking. Enjoy. Peter Clark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:12:18 EST From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: Too many CD's well i hope im not out of line here by bringing up a past thread but................. i suggest you set your apartment on fire..............with the money you make on the insurance you can buy a divex player and all your problems will be solved. trying to help in anyway i can..........fred ps............or you can do what i did and design and build your own bookcases and wall units and mount them on the wall. custom make them to fit your dwelling. its really very simple and its easy to stain them to fit your decor. and if you build them from scratch its much cheaper than buying that pre made flakeboard crap. but the divex is an option...........just ask anyone on ecto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:57:27 +0100 From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Re: Too many CD's At 00:34 10.03.99 EST, RavFlight@aol.com wrote: >readily available and fairly convenient. Any ideas..or suggestions that other >peope use to store their CD's. It's growing out of hand, so I greatly >appriciate any ideas. Thanks I started to migrate my "second choice" CDs into ProSleeves by Case Logic. These are sleeves where you put the booklet into the front bag and the CD into the rear bag of the sleeve. Then you can rip off the spine label and put it into the rider of the sleeve. The sleeves fit into every CD box. I have boxes for 80 CD sleeves. The drawback is that you have to throw away the jewel cases and the rear inlay card of your CDs. You can take a look at http://www.caselogic.com/audio/classic/prosleeve/index.html Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:01:28 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin Oops? On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Xenu's Sister wrote: > At 01:27 PM 3/9/99 -0500, Michael Colford wrote: > >On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Patrick Moseley wrote: > > > >> I'm so stupid, and man am I dull, > > > >Patrick, Patrick, don't beat yourself up. You're definitely not > >stupid, and I wouldn't call you dull either! > > Michael, that's a line from Happy's song "If I Ever > See The Girl Again" so I don't think he meant it literally. :-) Whoops! Hmmm, I guess I don't need to say another word, do I? :-) Michael (who can't believe he missed the reference!) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:47:51 EST From: AURALG@aol.com Subject: Apples and oranges Re: Immi I've had the pleasure of seeing Ms.Heap a few times now and I'm quite taken with her live show. Being the production junkie that I am, I find her album to be probably one of the coolest things I've EVER heard. It's in the CD player 'round the clock. I truly find it in my top 3 for a number of reasons, one being the production. They did a Phenomenal job on that record by painting with a very edgy brush, full of innovation and color and tech, while never getting in the way of the artist's voice and delivery. When I first saw Immi, I was a little skeptical at seeing a lone piano on the stage. A little disappointed 'cause I was such a fan of the record. Once she laid her hands on the keyboard and breathed into the mic, it never mattered that there even was an album. The songs are so solid ! Her command of both instruments is astonishing. There's nothing she can't play or sing. Every night the songs are played and sung differently and to my ear, I can hear how the treatment varies. Her "playing" around with the song structures and accents is effortless. Her musicianship and sense of timing is way beyond her 21 years. Her left hand is downright scary. So the live thing is a completely different experience, and perhaps a lot more intense. I've been fortunate to hang with her a little bit and talk about the record and touring here and I'm realizing that she's just getting warmed up. She's also a very humble and kind lass. How refreshing. Wherever you are, go see this woman play. You'll never get a chance like this tour again. Dates are on her website. It doesn't get more real and immediate. Trust me. If you can get close you'll truly be amazed at this talent. Hey I've seen everyone play and I mean EVERYONE. Imogen Heap is very special ! Maybe it's me......but her between songs banter and expressions remind me of Peter O'toole. Can I get some confirmation on that ? (or have the last brain cells finally popped ?) Rarely do I go off on a jag about an artist, but this girl is taking it to another level. Hope y'all are enjoying life, love, music and friends. I miss yas and always think of you fondly. Hope to have an album for you this Summer. (Mixing is booked for May) KB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 07:58:33 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Too many CD's Peter Clark wrote regarding his cd storage method of switching to vinyl sleeves: >Major drawback... what the hell to do with 1000+ empty used jewel cases. >Any takers? We donate ours to the public library. >Minor drawbacks... you can't read the spines any more (it >is an imperfect universe) and the sleeves are very slick so you have to >support them with bookends or the like or they'll slip under each other. We solve both of these problems by keeping one cd box for each artist. Helps stabilize the rows, and gives you a label to read. We actually make a label for the boxes we keep in big dark type. I actually find it easier to find cds now than I did before we switched over. The sleeves we use have spots that fit both the tray card and the booklet. And we keep our discs in bookcases with extra shelves, so we never needed bookends. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:07:38 -0500 From: Bob Brown Subject: Susan McKeown - Album of Year Susan McKeown's "Bushes & Briars" Named Crossroads Mag's Celtic Album of Year Music Business Daily A panel of radio programmers, music directors, retailers and music journalists has named Susan McKeown's "Bushes & Briars" (Alula Records) Crossroads Magazine Celtic Album of the Year. Bushes and Briars also ranked fourth in the World Album of the Year category, based on radio airplay and retail sales reported to Crossroads Magazine. The album is a collection of traditional Celtic songs, sung in both English and Irish. Guest artists include Seamus Egan, Johnny Cunningham, Andy Irvine, Jerry O'Sullivan, Jamshied Sharifi, Samir Chatterjee and Skuli Sverrisson. For More Information about Bushes & Briars, Susan McKeown or Alula Records, contact Tess Mangum at alulamedia@aol.com cool news... bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:53:40 -0800 From: Brian Bloom Subject: Re: Too many CD's Damark is now selling a cd rack that holds 1000 cds.. Goes for $149. Also can hold videos... I'm thinking about getting one for my collection, which has just maxed out the 3 smaller cd racks I'm using now... moo. At 12:34 AM 3/10/99 EST, RavFlight wrote: >Hello all. I was hoping that someone here might be able to help me. It >sounds as if many of you have impressive CD collections, so I thought this >would be a perfect place to ask the question. >I have a rather large CD and Video collection (1700 CD's and 800 Vids, maybe >more), and I live in a small studio apartment. Now, both of my collecitons >have overflown their storage shelves, and I no longer have to room to add any >more. (They already dominate my collection) I was hoping to find some ideas >that would economise the space of storage and still leave my collections >readily available and fairly convenient. Any ideas..or suggestions that other >peope use to store their CD's. It's growing out of hand, so I greatly >appriciate any ideas. Thanks > >Ryan Rogers >RavFlight@aol.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:42:31 -0500 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: RE: Too many CD's What I've done is to buy those "Storage Stackers" cheapo wooden stackable shelves designed for use in closets. The ones that are made for shoes are a good height for CDs. To prevent CDs from sliding back on the shelves, I glue a quarter round wood strip about 5 inches in. This effectively gives you a 4"x5" space behind the CDs to hide things. "That's where ya put yer weed", as the old SNL skit would say. Probably not as cheap as building your own, but far less labor, and extendable! As they get over 5 feet tall you might want to consider a wall anchor or other bracing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:20:26 -0800 From: "Bill" Subject: Imogen Heap (was: Apples and oranges) I couldn't agree more with Kevin's description of Imogen Heap. Following Kerry White's and others' remarks that one would be crazy not to see her perform live, a few months ago when she was in Vancouver, BC I drove up to see her. At the time I failed (or perhaps I chose not to) do a write-up for ecto, but I was nonetheless most impressed by her and her act. Boy, can the girl wail. When I arrived at the venue I too was a bit disappointed to see the lone piano on stage, since the production on her _I Megaphone_ album is so full, so pretty, so inventive. But eventually it mattered not. The way she pounds on the keyboard at times, the way she merely tickles the keys at other times, and the way that she similarly can both erupt shrieks and whisper sweet little somethings, leaves little room for someone else's expressiveness. I was elated to see Imogen play live, and, yes, one would be crazy to miss such an opportunity, especially while she remains so accessible as an artist. Regarding her resemblance to Peter O'Toole, come think of it, maybe there is a bit of one. But to me, she is just a very tall, very slim woman with very large extremities, a jungle of hair on her head and shoulders, and inspiring a feeling of reverence, admiration, and fear upon her sight. I am of small stature (5'5" or 1.65m), and nearly being at belly-button height while briefly chatting with her as she warmly autographed my CD, was, well, awe-inspiring! I'd be crazy not to see her perform live once more. - - Bill. On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:47:51 EST, AURALG@aol.com wrote: >Re: Immi >I've had the pleasure of seeing Ms.Heap a few times now and I'm quite taken >with her live show. Being the production junkie that I am, I find her album to >be probably one of the coolest things I've EVER heard. It's in the CD player >'round the clock. I truly find it in my top 3 for a number of reasons, one >being the production. They did a Phenomenal job on that record by painting >with a very edgy brush, full of innovation and color and tech, while never >getting in the way of the artist's voice and delivery. >When I first saw Immi, I was a little skeptical at seeing a lone piano on the >stage. A little disappointed 'cause I was such a fan of the record. >Once she laid her hands on the keyboard and breathed into the mic, it never >mattered that there even was an album. The songs are so solid ! >Her command of both instruments is astonishing. There's nothing she can't play >or sing. Every night the songs are played and sung differently and to my ear, >I can hear how the treatment varies. Her "playing" around with the song >structures and accents is effortless. Her musicianship and sense of timing is >way beyond her 21 years. Her left hand is downright scary. So the live thing >is a completely different experience, and perhaps a lot more intense. >I've been fortunate to hang with her a little bit and talk about the record >and touring here and I'm realizing that she's just getting warmed up. She's >also a very humble and kind lass. How refreshing. >Wherever you are, go see this woman play. You'll never get a chance like this >tour again. Dates are on her website. It doesn't get more real and immediate. >Trust me. >If you can get close you'll truly be amazed at this talent. Hey I've seen >everyone play and I mean EVERYONE. Imogen Heap is very special ! >Maybe it's me......but her between songs banter and expressions remind me of >Peter O'toole. Can I get some confirmation on that ? (or have the last brain >cells finally popped ?) >Rarely do I go off on a jag about an artist, but this girl is taking it to >another level. >Hope y'all are enjoying life, love, music and friends. I miss yas and always >think of you fondly. Hope to have an album for you this Summer. (Mixing is >booked for May) >KB > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:26:18 -0500 From: Paul Kim Subject: sonuva...upcoming concerts in boston Grrr...of course my spring break has to be start this friday and go for a week when several interesting concerts are happening in Boston...I'll just have to settle for taking care of my kitty at home in MD while this stuff goes on. Anyways, what i'll be missing and what some of you boston area people might want to catch include : - -Imogen at the Paradise this Friday - -Julia Darling at the Landsdowne Music Hall (formerly Mama Kin)this Saturday - -Lisa Germano with the Latin Playboys at the Paradise on the 16th - -Maire Brennan at the Copley Theater on the 17th (and i think Davey Spillane is playing somewhere St. Paddy's day too) - -Dancehall Crashers at the Paradise on the 19th vs. Laurie Geltman and Trina Hamlin at the Kendall Cafe that same night. oh well, i'll be back in boston in time to check out jess weiser playing a house concert on the 21st, mary jane lamond playing johnny d's again on april 1st, and susan werner doing stuff in MA from the 9th through the 11th of april. Paul "do mi sol ti" Kim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:44:34 -0800 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Too many CD's What sacrilege! I am the anal type when it comes to my compact disc collection, and parentally guard them to the point of not letting anyone else touch them! So, parting with any of the disc's art, or even the jewel box itself, would not be possible. Maybe my problem is one of having too few discs (about 425 or so), but I rather enjoy keeping my discs intact in their jewel boxes, in storage cases, in the livingroom, right next to the Denon CD player. True to my anal-ness, I use "tower cases", about five feet or so in height, which have felt-lined slots for the discs, with slots on all four faces, and the ability to spin on their base. The tower itself is black (also available in woody brown), and although internally it is probably made of compressed particle wood, on the outside they look rather elegant. Each case holds 270 discs, the only drawback being that the designers of the case decided to stick four double-height slots on each face, about two-thirds from the top, which makes for a bad break if you are not in need of storing double-disc jewel boxes. These cases are available in-store at A&B Sound; last time I purchased one it was about CDN 120.00. And, if you are looking for a CD case that stores jewel boxes, these ones are a good choice. I can't wait for the time soon to come when I have enough discs to warrant purchasing the third case! All right, go ahead and flame me. :) - - Bill. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:46:09 -0600 From: "Bittner, Matthew (KTR) ~U" Subject: Lisa Cerbone I took advantage of the offer Lisa Cerbone made for her discs - $10 for both _Close Your Eyes_ and _mercy_. Both are excellent; however, I truly "dig" _mercy_. An excellent disc that I'm spinning now. Highly recommended, and I'm very glad I didn't pass up her offer. _Close Your Eyes_ voice-wise reminds me of my old friends, the Jehova Waitresses. Matt Bittner np: Lisa Cerbone, _mercy_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:56:57 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Too many CD's At 10:44 AM 3/10/99 -0800, Bill wrote: [snip] >All right, go ahead and flame me. :) Well, if you insist. ;) I personally dislike those towers. I keep my CDs in alphabetical order by artist [1], so every time I purchased a new disc, I'd have to go through and move all the CDs again [2]. Right now, my CDs are housed on two shelves of my huge bookcase {it's 6' long, and 6.5' tall} in those ugly crate things. I tried those little sleeves that someone else mentioned, but my cats kept stealing them (!). The cats haven't found a way to steal jewel cases. I'd like to find a better solution, but I can't afford to pay a whole lot for a new home for the CDs. :/ /nad [1] Within artist, albums are in chronological order. Singles are in alphabetical order after the album they're from. [2] Unless I only buy albums from Warren Zevon, and that'd get old -real- quick. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:03:18 -0500 (EST) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: Re: sonuva...upcoming concerts in boston On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Paul Kim wrote: > Grrr...of course my spring break has to be start this friday and go for a > week when several interesting concerts are happening in Boston...I'll just > have to settle for taking care of my kitty at home in MD while this stuff > goes on. [...] > -Imogen at the Paradise this Friday Okay, it's a bit of a drive for you, but join us Sunday night at the 9:30 for Imogene and Rufus...I think tickets are $12. > -Lisa Germano with the Latin Playboys at the Paradise on the 16th And I'm pretty sure Lisa is hitting either the Birchmere or 9:30 coming up, but I don't recall when. Should be easy to check at sidwalk or something similar... jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: Heidi Heller Subject: Re: Too many CD's On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Nadyne Mielke wrote: > I personally dislike those towers. I keep my CDs in alphabetical order by > artist [1], so every time I purchased a new disc, I'd have to go through > and move all the CDs again [2]. I have this problem, too. It's such a hassle having to move each CD everytime I buy a new one. It does persuade me to buy CD's by artists on the lower end of the alphabet, though! While it's quite a task maintaining my system, I still prefer it to the idea of shelving the disks bc I can always tell when one is missing (getting borrowed by various family MP3-ers) and in my anal-retentiveness, I can usually tell on sight which one it is that's gone. Heidi ********************************* Heidi Heller Heller Information Services, Inc. 301/255-0500 mailto:billing@his.com mailto:ho@his.com ********************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:29:08 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Too many CD's On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Bill wrote: > > What sacrilege! I am the anal type when it comes to my compact disc > collection, and parentally guard them to the point of not letting > anyone else touch them! So, parting with any of the disc's art, or > even the jewel box itself, would not be possible. Maybe my problem is > one of having too few discs (about 425 or so), but I rather enjoy > keeping my discs intact in their jewel boxes, in storage cases, in the > livingroom, right next to the Denon CD player. One downside of this: Many of us keep our CDs in alphabetical or other orders. If we were to use slot-based systems, adding a disc to the collection would require removing every disc after it from its slot and moving it down one. Buying a new Abba resrospective would necessitate an incredible amount of refiling (which might not be such a bad thing, and would add to one's appreciation of John Zorn :-]). - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:26:53 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: sonuva...upcoming concerts in boston On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Paul Kim wrote: > -Imogen at the Paradise this Friday And Rufus Wainwright, darling! Don't forget! Sorry you won't be able to attend this one Paul. After the glowing review from KB, I'm really excited now. I will be at that show with Angelos. It's been quite a while since I've hit a club show, I'm excited. Now if I can only shake this cold. Michael http://www.whereitis.com/home/colford http://www.whereitis.com/home/chlotrudis/ n.p. The Outfield - Diamond Days (Look, I'm listening to all my CD's in alphabetcial order. Don't give me grief on this one.) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:15:43 -0800 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Too many CD's On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:56:57 -0500, Nadyne Mielke wrote: >[1] Within artist, albums are in chronological order. Singles are in >alphabetical order after the album they're from. I file my discs this very same way! Perhaps the only difference being that I keep "classical" discs separate from "modern" ones. I even used to keep "rock/pop/contemporary", "jazz/blues", "newage", "latin", and "classical/baroque/renaissance" categories, but that proved to be a fruitless exercise: is Happy Rhodes newage? is she rock? Is Bonnie Raitt blues? country? rock? So, now I have a category for the living (or not-so-long-ago-living), and for the dead-and-crispy. This is the only time when it comes in handy that my CD towers have those silly double-slots two-thirds from the top: I put modern stuff on the top, and classical stuff on the bottom; it reminds me how much more classical stuff I ought to buy. :) On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:29:08 -0600 (CST), Joseph S. Zitt wrote: >One downside of this: Many of us keep our CDs in alphabetical or other >orders. If we were to use slot-based systems, adding a disc to the >collection would require removing every disc after it from its slot and >moving it down one. Buying a new Abba resrospective would necessitate an >incredible amount of refiling (which might not be such a bad thing, and >would add to one's appreciation of John Zorn :-]). It's not a bad thing at all! I call shuffling my 425 or so discs (after gettting that new Ace of base disc from Sweden) having a "fun day". :) It's something to do, something to remind me who I haven't played in a long time, something to reacquaint me with some of the cover art, something to keep me away from the computer. Call it therapy. I may be anal, but I am also easily pleased. :) - - Bill. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:23:32 -0800 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Too many CD's Oh, I forgot to mention: The slots in my CD towers are downwardly slanted, so the discs nestle in their slots by sheer gravity, and don't come out flying when the house or the earth shakes. Plus, it makes it quite easy to browse the label on the discs' spine when searching for something to play that fits the mood. - - B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:50:15 -0500 (EST) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: Re: sonuva...upcoming concerts in boston On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Michael Colford wrote: > n.p. The Outfield - Diamond Days (Look, I'm listening to all my CD's in > alphabetcial order. Don't give me grief on this one.) HA! I just heard them on the radio yesterday, and though, "Geez, it's been FOREVER"! No grief here. It was great stuff back in high school... jeff np: _The McGarrigle Hour_ just finished; probably next up will be Ian Anderson's _12 Dances With God_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:25:25 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Too many CD's On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Bill wrote: > It's not a bad thing at all! I call shuffling my 425 or so discs > (after gettting that new Ace of base disc from Sweden) having a "fun > day". :) It's something to do, something to remind me who I haven't > played in a long time, something to reacquaint me with some of the > cover art, something to keep me away from the computer. Call it > therapy. For those of us who get several CDs a week, I would call it sisyphean :-) - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:21:01 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Queen of Tel Aviv When digging around for unheard recent Ofra Haza material, I came across a listing at Bookman (a rather good CD site in Sweden) for a CD single "The Queen of Tel Aviv" by The C&N Project featuring Ofra Haza. Since I was getting some other stuff there anyway, I went ahead and ordered it. I eagerly played it when I got it yesterday, and was somewhat disappointed: it's pretty generic techno (though with an off-beat rhythm that had me counting to figure the meter out (which turned out to be in 8 after all, but divided oddly)). And Ofra Haza's entire involvement consists of a sample of the first two words (the title) of "Im Nin'alu", right off the record. Pretty much a waste for Haza fans; those who react well to interchangable dance music may hear it differently. Oh well, at least the CD of pieces by Cage, Stockhausen, Reich, and others arranged for lute was pretty good... - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:44:34 +0000 From: james cunnane Subject: My Non-Ecto Genre Shame (was: Re: Celtic Music) Yves Denneulin writes: >Joseph S. Zitt writes: > > I can't think of any genre that one could say truly does not belong on > > an Ectophiles CD shelf. >Boy's band. Does anyone here dare admit that they own a Wet Wet Wet >CD? ;-) (puts hand up, not entirely timidly) Not the best example of a Boys' Band. WWW's first recording (The Memphis Sessions) is of interest: "Produced and mixed by Willie Mitchell at Royal Studios, Memphis, Tennessee... Featuring The Memphis Horns, The Memphis Strings, Anne Peebles, Carla Thomas,..." It's got strong influences from soul music, particularly in the vocal phrasing, which were my obsession for a good month, way back when I first bought the CD. Willie Mitchell was Al Green's producer. Somewhat bizarrely, Phonogram bought the idea of sending four unrecorded Glasgow kids across the Atlantic to work with him on their first record. Many "Boys' Bands" produced interesting or good stuff in earlier years - the first case that comes to my mind is Simple Minds' gestaltmusik period (Sons And Fascination / Sister Feelings Call / New Gold Dream / Sparkle In The Rain ). I've got 'em all... but wouldn't buy any of their recent stuff at any price. Other 'genres' we don't hear much about on ecto: Disco / hedonistic dance / hi-nrg (Chic, Wham, Donna Summer, Sylvester) Punk / new wave (Sex Pistols, Public Image Limited, Ramones) Hip-hop / techno / experimental ambient / breakbeat / jungle (Man Parrish, Italian one-hit wonders, Aphex Twin, Goldie) Items from these all genres border on or intersect ectoland eventually. I suspect that the canonical (but not very useful) statement of Joseph's assertion is Louis Armstrong's "There's only two ways to sum up music; either it's good or it's bad..." And YMMV. So Joseph might have a shelf full of Xenakis whereas I have none, but lots of Sidsel Endresen, Bjork remixes, Anita Baker, and Mathilde Santing. Presumably neither of us is unduly upset about this. jac n.p: Mathilde Santing - Out of this dream: a third side n.r: Rebecca Solnit - A book of migrations - -- james cunnane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:54:00 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Too many CD's At 12:15 PM 3/10/99 -0800, Bill wrote: >On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:56:57 -0500, Nadyne Mielke wrote: >>[1] Within artist, albums are in chronological order. Singles are in >>alphabetical order after the album they're from. >I file my discs this very same way! *blink* That's scary. >Perhaps the only difference being that I keep "classical" discs >separate from "modern" ones. I even used to keep >"rock/pop/contemporary", "jazz/blues", "newage", "latin", and >"classical/baroque/renaissance" categories, but that proved to be a >fruitless exercise: is Happy Rhodes newage? is she rock? Is Bonnie >Raitt blues? country? rock? So, now I have a category for the living >(or not-so-long-ago-living), and for the dead-and-crispy. Errrrrr. This is -exactly- what I do. No towers, but this is exactly my system. /nad {kinda worried that someone else uses this system of filing ;) } ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:57:59 EST From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: FWD: Jenny Bruce/Jessica Weiser live in Boston hey guys, thought you all might be interested in this! this is part of a series of really successful LRCs and I'd love to meet some of you! :) - --jessica >I can not say enough good things about either, as they are both among my >absolute favourite performers and are among my group of absolute favourite >people...SO, without further ado, here are "the particulars"... >WHAT: Living Room Concert >WHEN: Sunday March 21, 4 PM >WHERE: My Place, somewhere in Medford, MA. email privately for info. >SINGING: JENNY BRUCE and JESSICA WEISER >Jenny Bruce (www.goodgirl.com) Jessica Weiser >(http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess) >INVITED: you, your friends, your friends' friends... >COVER: $10, all of which goes completely and directly to the singers >JENNY'S CD: Self-Titled, $10 >JESS'S CD: "What Has Happened", $10 >DIRECTIONS: Email me privately >RSVP: ASAP!!!! >BRING: Nice munchies stuff...you know, hummous, pita, veggie sticks, > brownies, cookies, and other tasty mosels of food... >NOT BRING: soda, potato chips, the typical junk food items, or anything with > meat (though my house is not officially a veggie house, we try to > keep it as close as possible to one...) or wine/alcohol items. >QUESTIONS: e-mail me, kartalst@gse.harvard.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:47:47 -0700 From: Peter Clark Subject: Re: Too many CD's Nadyne Mielke wrote: > > At 12:15 PM 3/10/99 -0800, Bill wrote: > >On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:56:57 -0500, Nadyne Mielke wrote: > > >>[1] Within artist, albums are in chronological order. Singles are in > >>alphabetical order after the album they're from. > >I file my discs this very same way! > > *blink* That's scary. > > >Perhaps the only difference being that I keep "classical" discs > >separate from "modern" ones. I even used to keep > >"rock/pop/contemporary", "jazz/blues", "newage", "latin", and > >"classical/baroque/renaissance" categories, but that proved to be a > >fruitless exercise: is Happy Rhodes newage? is she rock? Is Bonnie > >Raitt blues? country? rock? So, now I have a category for the living > >(or not-so-long-ago-living), and for the dead-and-crispy. > > Errrrrr. This is -exactly- what I do. No towers, but this is exactly my > system. > > /nad > {kinda worried that someone else uses this system of filing ;) } At the real risk of seeming some kind of jerk... This is silliness. The original question was what to do with an increasingly unmanageable number of cds coupled with limited storage space. Bill's assertion that he has achieved much of anything having dealt with 400+ cds with spinning towers will be dashed on the rocks of dispair when that number quadruples. I thought so too, "I'll NEVER need space for more than 500 with this custom-done, unmodifiable cabinet." That was before I HAD to get a 1000 disc rack a year ago and ran out of space in that in a matter of months. Going to plastic sleeves postponed the inevitable for another year or so, but the problem doesn't go away. I had no choice, since, I too, buy several cds a week and don't want to stop buying new tunes. (Anal retentiveness lives, I haven't been able to bring myself to getting rid of the jewel cases yet, myself. The nagging thought is that I might need them... for something... ) As to filing systems, every fresh obit means more refiling, if that's the way you discriminate. I suspect that unless you'd rather increasingly play at librarian, a more fluid system will have to evolve. And, this whole problem gets worse if you have any commitment to vinyl, as well. Having just dealt with the cds, now I have to face the 12"er problem, again, and they're much bigger and hard to deal with than cds. Excelsior, Peter Clark Any ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #88 *************************